MSNBC: Bible a ‘work of fiction’

MSNBC Host Lawrence O’Donnell said on his show that the Bible, specifically the book of Revelation, is a “work of fiction” to portrays God as a mass murderer beyond Hitler’s wildest dreams.

“I believe that MSNBC has become the most anti‑god network ever put on the air in the history of America,” Glenn said on radio this morning.

Glenn then tossed to audio from Lawrence O’Donnell, who flat out calls the Bible fiction and twists comments made by Glenn.

O’Donnel begins, “The Book of Revelation is a book of fiction describing how a vicious God would bring about the end of the world. No half smart religious person believes the Book of Revelation anymore.”

Glenn certainly didn’t agree with this, as he and Pat both stated that the Book of Revelation was God saying “this is what it is going to look like”. “He’s giving us this in advance to say when you see these things, have hope that I am coming soon. That’s what he’s saying and it’s not the end of the world. The world goes on a thousand years, God time, a thousand years after he comes back. This is not the end of the world. That’s the way people like Lawrence O’Donnell try to twist it,” Glenn said.

“No half smart religious person believes what you said about the Book of Revelation,” Pat said in reference to O’Donnell.

As O’Donnell continued, he omitted that much of the violence and murder was committed by the Anti-Christ, not God.

“I guess if you’re Lawrence O’Donnell, you expect God‑‑ again, here’s that mentality that he must undo all the wrong being done, that we can have no opposition, no tragedy and have no catastrophe happen to us,” Pat said.

“Yes, he does. You know why? Because progressives believe that they are God. They will have collective salvation and they will fix everything,” Glenn said.

“So Glenn Beck is saying he doesn’t know, he doesn’t know if the nuclear crisis in Japan is signaling the imminent end of the world. If Bill O’Reilly is going to use the word hype and not the words Glenn Beck in the same sent he’s in, Billy Boy’s analysis is surprisingly as empty‑headed as usual. Glenn Beck doesn’t know if this is the end of the world,” O’Donnell said, twisting Glenn’s words.

Obviously suffering from some sort of inferirority complex, O’Donnel then begged for Glenn’s audience to watch him instead. ““Why would anyone listen to a guy who doesn’t know if this is the end of the world,” he asked, “when there’s another guy on MSNBC at eight every night who can tell you with absolute certainty, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that this is not the end of the world? What do I have to do, change the name of the show to ‘The This is Not the End of the World Show with Lawrence O’Donnell?’”

(editor’s note: While O’Donnell appears to be desperate to have Glenn’s audience, even willing to change the name of his show to increase ratings, we doubt anything can really save MSNBC.)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dean-Smith/1815136753 Dean Smith

    i have an idea, not a belief, (ideas can be changed, beliefs cant)  that the things that happen in life, good or bad, arent down to some almighty being, but are down to the decisions and actions of people themselves. if the world goes to the dogs, its wont be because god didnt lift a finger to help, itll be because people were too busy waiting for him to help that they didnt do anything to prevent it themselves. y’see, i dont believe in god, and i dont not believe in god, because the truth is, and its a truth that those with a firm belief either way are scared to admit, is that theres no way to know. i CANT believe either way, because honestly, i dont know. and ive noticed that when theres something that theres no answer to people always say, it must be god. because if they didnt, then it would mean admitting that really, they just dont know, god is the thing that people use to give themeselves closure about something they have no real answer to, because people dont like to admit that they dont have an answer for things. i like to think that maybe the bible was a work of fiction, like a fantasy novel set in a real world setting, and that it was full of some good ideas like thou shalt not kill and so on. i mean if people saw the bible as just a good story, that has some really good moral ideas then maybe people wouldnt die over it so much. i cant really put into words what i mean so instaed heres a piece from a screenplay of a movie i think is brilliant called ‘Dogma’. Rufus is a human that lived in the days of jesus, and was sent to earth to help the main protagonist Bethany, to stop two fallen angels, Loki and Bartleby, who, through a loophole in Catholic Dogma, find a way to get back into Heaven after being cast out by God. However, as existence is founded on the principle that God is infaliable, their success would prove God wrong and thus undo all creation. in the scene, bethany asks about when rufus knew jesus and what he was like and then asks the question
    BETHANY

    How does He feel now?

    RUFUS

    He still digs humanity, but it bothers Him to see the stuff that gets
    carried out in His name – wars, bigotry, but especially the factioning of
    all the religions. He said humanity took a good idea and, like always,
    built a belief structure on it.

    BETHANY

    Having beliefs isn’t good?

    RUFUS

    I think it’s better to have ideas. You can change an idea. Changing a
    belief is trickier. Life should malleable and progressive; working from
    idea to idea permits that. Beliefs anchor you to certain points and limit
    growth; new ideas can’t generate. Life becomes stagnant. That was one thing
    the Man hated – still life. He wanted everyone to be as enthralled with
    living as He was. Maybe it had something to do with knowing when He was going to die. but Christ had this vitality that I’ve never encountered in another person since. You know what
    I’m saying?

    BETHANY

    He was big on life?

    RUFUS

    It was more than that. He was the only person I ever knew who never engaged
    in that most ancient of life-affirming activities.

    BETHANY

    Sex?

    RUFUS

    Debate. That’s the only way people know how to reaffirm that they’re alive
    - by debating. In all it’s forms. People spend their whole lives debating:
    we fight about who’s right and who’s wrong, we fight ourselves, we fight
    each other, we fight death, we fight over beliefs, we fight over fights. We
    believe that to stop debating – in any fashion -is to stop living and give
    up. People say that life’s a struggle, but it’s not. Life is living. I’m
    even guilty of it myself, the way I go on about Christ’s ethnicity,
    fighting for the truth to come out And I’m dead. Even in death, the only
    way I know how to live is through debate. That’s sad, isn’t it?

    BETIIANY

    Not if you believe it’s important for people to know.

    RUFUS

    A belief’s a dangerous thing, Bethany. People die for it. People kill for
    it. The whole of existence is in jeopardy right now because of the Catholic
    Belief structure regarding this plenary indulgence stuff. And whether
    they know it or not, Bartleby and Loki are exploiting that belief, and if
    they’re successful, you, me. all of this… ends in a heartbeat.

    (beat)

    All over a belief.
    Now most of this conversation didnt make it into the final cut, the only bits that did were the bits that mattered, which were the bits about the difference between beliefs and ideas. and i agree, it IS better to have an idea instead of a belief, because as rufus says, you can change an idea, a belief is harder to change. So thats the way i think about things, instead of out n out believing in things, i just have an idea, which means i cant take offence to someone who has a different idea to mine (like so many people with conflicting beliefs do) i can maybe incorporate their idea into mine, and if i cant because i prefer my idea over theres, at least i can still accept that person and talk to them, and get on with them, because the only difference between us is the fact that we just have different ideas.

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    That’s all well and good but couldn’t that be flipped around? If you (a religious person) were in a hospital waiting room, would you pray for every possible god you can think of if there was just a remote possibility that it would save your child’s life?

    And what would be the one god an atheist should pray to? The Christian God? Don’t think so black and white.

  • http://twitter.com/mrskarface79 Richard alvarez

    telling an athiest hes going to burn in hell is like telling a child hes not getting any presents from santa, and yes the bible is fiction and mythology.

  • Ethan Gaines

    I love how the choices you give are either:
    A: your religious
    B: your an a-hole

    Such a clever wording to push people into one way of thinking. You can pray all you want, but much like “liking” a post on Facebook, there is no proof it does anything at all. So those parents that dont pray are not liars, or cruel, they are just not fans of the “make believe”. 

  • Ethan Gaines

    “Atheists have no such comfort”

    Isn’t there over 100+ verses in the bible about judging others? Stating that Atheists have no such comfort, is a huge judgement about a selection of individuals you do not know on a personal basis.