As Lord Jesus declared that we cannot serve both God and mammon…so which is it to be for all of us on the individual choices level; will we follow God or will we follow after stuff (Mammon.)

Mind you, in the passage of 1 Timothy 6:10, it is clear that the LOVE of money is the cause of many evils, and some translations say it as being the root of all evils…there is no problems with being well off or rich, it is the actions and motivation with what we DO WITH IT that make the difference.

So again, will we each chose to follow God or Mammon?

For me and my house, we will follow God.

To the family of this man, may God comfort you and keep you and sustain you in the time ahead. May He bring forth a flood of blessed memories and fond times, of loving and hope filled moments to ease the pain in the future.

May peace grace and be with you all today.
Amen.

Gives new meaning to the term “Shop til you drop”.

That’s how people are nowadays. People only seem to care about themselves. Once the economy finally collapses, people’s selfish and hateful behaviors are going to shine forth like the sun. It’s going to be interesting.

I have seen animals more compassionate that care for each other.

every year someones dies every. every year for what crap that going to break in a year or two. is that the price of a good deal is a father, son, brother,and grandfather died for these deals. what are we trunning into were stuff is more inportent then life.i swear are culture is runned by satan himself and here the proof of that. were are the good Samaritans that we heard of in Luke 10: 30-37. how did we grow so cold and evil people. both parties shakes the hands of evil. OWS is wrong we have a heart propblem not a rich problem because look at what happens at black friday. you tell me who to blame for this mess us or the rich. we are the ones killing eachother for crap that we can not even take with us when we die. everyone look in your hearts answer this question would you leave i guy to die even if it means if you help the guy you die yourself? if you say yes then your heart is in the wrong place like Jesus said in John 15:13 Greater love no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends. everyone it is time to come to the well. http://youtu.be/vLxdxw4Gj6g

What?!? Target has a policy that employees lose their job if they help someone who’s suffering??  Boycott Target!

This is the “ME” generation that is focused more on things than people! Judgement day will come and those that choose things over people will not see the final resting place….only a hot, steamy world of misery! If they only knew that the person on the ground was not just a man, but was actually God testing those who walked by…

Our “president” is lucky. Lucky we can’t find his real birth certificate. Lucky he’s the darling of the MSM. Or else he’d be in jail.

Some of us ARE still trying to keep the spirit of Thanksgiving and the spirit of this country alive, one family at a time…please check out Project Thanksgiving:

http://www.scarymommy.com/thanksgiving-because-of-you/

http://www.scarymommy.com/project-thanksgiving/

People value shiny things more than they value human life…..disgusting society we live in. 

It is incredibly sad that the Christian story of the good Samaritan seems to be unknown to many Americans today.  HOW could anyone walk by this man without trying to help him.  Target employees who said they were not allowed to help has Target OFF of my shopping destinations until some exec from the company says that is not so. Would not be the first time Target and Christmas tradition were miles apart.

Back in the 1950′s there was a psychological study done called the Milgram Experiment. On its face, the test subject was supposed to be helping the scientist in a study on learning techniques. The idea being that punishment helped people learn better. So, the subject would deliver increasingly powerful shocks to the “learner” in another room. Eventually this went into dangerous and then lethal levels. In reality they were doing no such thing. No shocks we given, the test really was to see how far people would go and could they be pushed past their comfort zone by the authority figure, the doctor in the lab coat.

A new version was recently run in the US. The difference being that they stopped the test at the 150 volt danger level and told the subject what was going on. Prior to that point, they thought it was as real as the 1950′s subject did.

In the original: 66% went all the way.

The modern one: almost 80% did.

So much for the Age of Aquarius and all that touchy-feely stuff the schools have been pushing. We see it here. A bunch of little narcissists went on their way and didn’t at least bother to dial 911, which would probably be the best thing to do is this litigious age. 

Oh my, I am so sorry for the family, may he rest in peace. I must say that after attending the 8/28 rally in Washington DC last summer a million people headed for the subways…very orderly I may add…while waiting for our train a woman collapsed, right there on the platform….a train came and no one got on because they were all trying to help..Someone yelled that they had the situation under control and paramedics were called…the group I was with waited with her until medical personnel arrived. I am sure she was fine, however she was elderly and it was scary. I did not expect anything less, after spending hours with the group of fine Americans and not one act of violence…this is what REAL Americans act like. I sure hope what they were trying to buy was worth it, but we all know that those people lost a little bit of their soul on Friday…God Bless them.

This one reason I will never shop on black Friday cause other people scare me the way they treat humans, I wonder how they would feel if the same happened to them. My prayers go out to his family. 

I am appalled that this incident could have happened anywhere, but I am even more disgusted that it happened in my home state of WV. Though we are much maligned and mocked by the rest of the world, one thing we had going for us was the caring and compassionate people that populate this small rural state. Always friendly, helpful, kind and giving, the hardy folk of WV usually stand out in these areas.  Unfortunately, ugliness has come to our neck of the woods and hearts have grown cold even here. I am praying for our nation to turn back to God before He takes away His hand of protection.

disgusting pigs….

What city in WV?

Charleston.

In the accout of this that I read, the story started out saying “some reported” that people stepped over the man. Then, in about the 4th paragraph, they reported that his wife said this story is not true. According to his wife, there were several nurses and others who came to help him. Is it possible people passed by because others were already assisting? Is it possible the “some reporting” didn’t fully grasp the situation. Not sure we are getting the whole story here.

We all say that the nazi’s were our enemy, we all say that what Hitler did  will never happen again. Hitler sent millions of Jewish people to their death, with no thought about killing mothers, kids, fathers and grandparents, he sent them to the gas chambers. People are proud that we liberated the few remaining prisoners, took them home to be treated as poor, poor people who have been abused, but we walk over a man who is dying so that we can get that one thing that Sally wants for Christmas? We are no longer a people, but a bunch of hypocrites, uncaring, unfeeling, and bound for one thing, and that is to get what we can get, while we can still get it. Please someone prove me wrong, but I thing that is futile.

Soon God will be tired.  America… prepare for the wrath.

“The love of many shall wax cold”

The attitude of some people is simply disgusting.  I’ve never been to a Black Friday event and I never will because it’s the kind of hysteria that accompanies these things that gives way to this kind of behavior.

amen

Honestly, this isn’t a fair depiction of what people would do. That might happen where people are apathetic to plight because they’re used to it, but not here in Texas. In fact, I had the most pleasant shopping experience of my life and even in California it wasn’t as bad as this article. Yes, people can be rude, but for the most part they’re not tuned out.

I’m very happy to say I have stepped in when someone was in trouble, took that person to the hospital and waited until relatives arrived. I didn’t do it because it’s the Christian thing to do. I am an atheist. I didn’t do it because my family taught me to do it. I did it because I love life and can’t sit by idly when another human being is in trouble.

So again, I wouldn’t start painting the US with such a broad stroke. We are, after all, a nation of individuals.  

like i said we need to change hearts not not steel from the rich do you see it now Vinny your way not going to change us. people will still go after the shiny things even when things are rigged.

You have a sick sense of humor.  This was a human being.  Someone’s Father, husband and grandfather.  Not to mention friend of others.  take a look inside your heart, if you have one, and try to find some compassion.  May you one day see the Light.

This, unfortunately, is what society looks like when God is thrown out of the picture. This is disgusting, but it is the nature of sinful man. This is what we all become without God. Look at the ancient Israelites who did similar things when they fell away from God. Look at the world after man fell into sin (just before the Flood). It’s all sickening, but we brought it on ourselves. We have to keep faith and pray that the Lord will show people like these the Way. We have to keep faith and pray that God will continue to nourish our own faith so that we can spread God’s Word to people like this. God have mercy….

@amijo7 … Shalom~ If you “read an account” of this story different than what is being ‘reported” at GBTV radio, you would serve your fellow American Patriots with honor and truth by linking to that account. Otherwise, you are simply “some reporting” and your “some reporting” implies a lack of truth in the GB/Blaze staff. They may have it wrong (I trust they do not). If so, provide the link that offers the correction. If you are repeating a hazy-lazy reporters sloppy work, STOP IT! If your “some reporting” is what it seems to imply (in the great tradition of Cong. Joe Wilson, “You Lie!”) you cast a dark shadow on GB/The Blaze staff, etc.
@ landofaahs ..Goodness gracious, great balls of fire, a man died. A life is over and the destination of his soul for eternity is unknown to most of us. This is not a time or place for gallows humor!

Glenn, Cheer up because as I said in the last post all of the conditions listed in Revelation, chapter 11 are present for the two-witnesses to call about both 144,000 Israelites, 12,000 from each of 12 tribes, less Dan, which are the Irish. They also are going to call out the International Congregation of Yahweh, led by Elder Gary Miller! Why ONLY Elder Gary Miller’s Congregation? Because he is the only Spiritual Body in Yahweh that Keeps the 7th Day Sabbath from dawn to dark, all the required Annual Sabbaths and keeps the only correct yearly calender in the world at this time with 30 days months and all the days begin at dawn and end at dark each day! Will this all matter? It does according the the Law of Yahweh! No? Watch!  For further information contact:  info@icyahweh.org;      p.s. Everyone will rue the coming of September 16, 2012 if i’m reading the “signs of the times” correctly! Again, watch!

This just shows how important it is to get all the facts before we go calling people callous and unconcerned. ” What kind of people are we turning into?”  Whatever kind it is, the Good in us will win.

Nothing to see here, folks. Do your part and mindlessly consume! Greed-based materialism is the basis of our economy.

Shalom, Rosa … You have written a new paragraph of understanding defining an “atheist.” Life is sacred because you and I are made in the image of GOD, Who created us to express love & value. You reflect His image honorably. Blessings to you!

Hello people God is coming and It will not be Fun and Games.

Glenn, this is almost as heartbreaking as the headline of another story that I saw yesterday “Boy beaten to death on 4th birthday”.  I couldn’t even begin to open or read it.

God is gonna set all things right, soon!

I cannot believe or even fathom that any human being would ignore or step over another human being who was in serious need of medical help. My question is why the paramedic and the ER nurse eventually went to the man to help..what was they  worried about that stupid sale?…my gosh, what is more important than helping someone in dire need? I have to shake my head in disbelief that anyone could be so self-centered on things vs saving a human life. My thoughts and prayers go to the family of this dear man.

Does our media, including you my friend, use the tragedies and/ or shortcomings of others to promote their own agenda? I remember hearing of such things when I was a child and remember being told that society was over with and that we should all prepare for the end of the world. I believe that God must be very patient and that we are being a bit hubristic in predicting what he will do.

vic you are a blarney stone of deception …

Sir, this has “what” to do with the untimely death of an individual?

@ greg … Shalom, sir … your have proven yourself wrong as is evident. Juxtaposing the horrors of the Holocaust murdering more than 6 million of my enslaved People …  with one man dying during midnight freely choosing to shop …  are not equal.

Funny how Glenn didn’t feel bad about firefighters who let a man’s house burn down in Tennessee…

gb misses the mark once again.
he has personally attacked, divorced, chosen alcohol over family and tramples the poor on a daily basis.  The fact that he tries to tie this into being the President’s fault is another pathetic move.
At least gb is following the same track as manson and coughlin along with other cult leaders.

Right on schedule, a quick jump from Vinny to strtlk/mtclayboy.

You’re a liar and a Phony Soldier who lies about his Military Service.
It’s a shame that people like this denigrate those who really served and sacrificed their lives in the Military and as long as he posts here, I’ll expose his lies and bigotry.

He cries like a little baby when people do to him what he has been doing to Glenn Beck.

He lies about his Military Service.

It’s a shame that people like this denigrate those who really served and sacrificed their lives in the Military and as long as he posts here, I’ll expose his lies and bigotry.

Flag the idiot so the moderators will remove this piece of crap from the site. Strike a blow for the real Veterans of this country.

He cries like a little baby when people do to him what he has been doing to Glenn Beck.

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This is just craziness.  Lemmings.

I stand with God Ryan.  I don’t believe in stealing, I believe in equality for ALL men.  Take Steve Jobs for example.  Steve Jobs was an innovator, yet if you take a look at the suicides and the horrific slave factory’s in China that allowed him and the apple empire to become the empire that it is, would you still be for it?  Thats not Godly at all!!  How can I just turn a blind eye and say, “this is capitalism”?  I can’t do that. 

I don’t mind capitalism per say, I just want the exploitations and the special interest contributions to political figures to stop immediately.  This is the crux of most of the problems I address in a roundabout way.  Value EVERY human life on earth, not just Christians and Jews.  Politicians need to stop taking bribes to wash the other hand when they get elected.  In this current system, politicians can NEVER be for the people and you know it.  Peace brother. 

What a sad commentary on the state of humanity!

OHHH….haha, now I see who you are.  They think I’m you posting under different names.  Someone compare our IP’s and you will see we aren’t the same person. 

This retard would sell his own mother out for higher ratings. Fucking hypocrite.

Posting to yourself Vinny. Funny stuff. A liar posting to a liar posting to himself.

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You, obviously, don’t know or read the true Bible, for it says, “NO MAN knows the hour or the day when the SON OF GOD, shall return”.
Look it up for yourself.  I’ll leave it to you to find the chapter and verse rather than make it easy for you.  Trust me, it’s in there!!

I am not him genius.  Look up our IP’s.  Stop trying to silence free speech to better suit your views of the world.  Whats wrong, you don’t like being challenged on issues?  My service to this country was honorable and I’m proud of it.  The fact that you sit there and mock my service shows alot about you. 

I’m flagging your posts for disinformation and deformation.  If you want to think 3 people are the same person so that in your head it makes sense…then by all means continue. 

interesting point but like i said heart change. all this can stop if we did what Jesus told us to do before he left.

You’re a liar Vinny/strtlk. IP addy’s are not public on a site like this. Only to the Mods.

You never served because you can’t back up your lies. I mock OWS idiots who claim that they served in the Military to give their rhetoric credibility.

Again, what’s your MOS, why did it take 9 years for you to deploy?

I was wondering when you were going to start posting to yourself strtlk?

Sorry, I don’t buy it.

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Sorry if you have had to take flak over my screen name. 
They are constantly making up lies about my name.  They say I have multiple names.
Be warned about this cult…
They will falsely accuse you of threatening them.
They will lie about your job and past.
They will try and bait you with disgusting innuendos and degrade you with endless attacks.
Good luck.  It takes a thick skin to be constantly bombarded with lies.

  I don’t like using that term at all…’lucky’, because as I see it, we all are very blessed.  And only because of what our savior and King Jesus Christ who gave His life for our sins … He’s God, and we all have to answer to him in the end.
 Hopefully, the people that did come to help,  see ‘what wicked blackness ly in the hearts of the people  that walked acrossed the gentlemen’
 As individuals we all will have to answer to God for our own actions.  
But, for heaven sake!!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE NOW A DAYS ….

 Merry CHRISTmas to you and yours Glenn!  Keeping you in prayer’s…. 

What was your MOS pal, what school did you get your 2 degrees from. Your posts show that you’re ignorant as dirt.

Sorry pal, I don’t buy it.

“TMP”

2012 america will be worse.

Right on schedule, a quick jump from Vinny to strtlk/mtclayboy.

You’re a liar and a Phony Soldier who lies about his Military Service.
It’s a shame that people like this denigrate those who really served and sacrificed their lives in the Military and as long as he posts here, I’ll expose his lies and bigotry.

He cries like a little baby when people do to him what he has been doing to Glenn Beck.

He lies about his Military Service.

It’s a shame that people like this denigrate those who really served and sacrificed their lives in the Military and as long as he posts here, I’ll expose his lies and bigotry.

Flag the idiot so the moderators will remove this piece of crap from the site. Strike a blow for the real Veterans of this country.

He cries like a little baby when people do to him what he has been doing to Glenn Beck.

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 If this is true may Walter RIP and the scum rednecks that stepped over rot in hell…….

What the hell’s your problem?

I’m there already Ryan, it’s those crooks on wall street and in the white house who need to change now, and as we know, they refuse, so now it has to start from the bottom up….hence the OWS protests.  At least they’re standing up.  I applaud the Tea Party for standing up as well…at least they did SOMETHING (even though I don’t agree with their views), just like the OWS people.  It’s better to have socially conscious people in a nation ready to stand for something, rather than keep silent and fall for everything.  You and I both know somethings wrong with these crooks, so at least the OWS people stand up.  You don’t agree with their views, but this is the United States and not everyone is going to agree.  This is freedom. 

Our country no longer has a leader, as is said ” so goes the leader so goes the group”.  Well, I am not following that kind of leading which is no leading at all.  Luke 10 gives the account of the Good Samaritan.
How sad that people would step over the man who fell as he was shopping.  All because they needed to get to that special item they wanted.  And more than one person stepped over him and just ignored his need for help.  Finally a nurse saw him and gave him help.  Shame on you for treating him like an animal.  

One question for those people: What if it was YOUR father? I just don’t understand how or why anyone could do that! It’s just- it is beyond me! People have stopped careing, and this needs to change drastically.

DOWN YONDER shuld go back to school. This quote is attched above <Quite honestly our president this weekend gave a Thanksgiving address where he called America lucky. Lucky? I’m sorry. No, we’re not lucky, sir. We’re blessed. And we worked hard. We deserved many of our blessings." Glenn Said

Not sure where you read that Amijo7.

The New York Daily News and Huffington Post both state the same thing, along with several other news agencies:  People walked over and around this man and ignored him.  He was a Pharmacist and very well liked in his community.

Do a little research before you post and if you post something contrary to what is being discussed, be courteous enough to include a link to the “story” you read.  Thanks. 

You don’t have to buy it, I’m not here to prove myself to a random poster on a Freemason’s website. Move on then, just stop the unwarranted deformation of character. 

You can look at my post history…I already know. 

Then ask the Mods!!!  Is Lamar the Marine Sgt’s service phony too?  Are you feeling alright?  You are relentless in your attacks…it makes me wonder.

Keep up the lies silver spoon.

That is NOT true. They blocked off the aisle he was in, helped him and called 911.  There is no policy against them helping anyone.

Wow….take it easy with the name calling. 

This is like the Chinese toddler that was run over by a car, 2x, left on the road as people just walked by. And now here. During what should be a joyous season.

My prayers go out to the Walter Vance’s family, and a POX ON THOSE WHO IGNORED HIS TIME OF NEED.

We have lost our way, It is from the bottom of my heart sad to think he was stepped over and ignored in his last minutes on earth. Pray for his family and hope this is not true and never ever happens.

If you stop your lies about ever being in the Military or tell me your MOS and what unit you served in. Last I read, you drove a truck. What school did you attend for your 2 degrees and why are you still ignorant of basic economics?

C’mon, fess up.

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yes freedom is great.

Touch him; he dies; it’s your fault.

No, we haven’t ever ‘deserved’ God’s blessings…He blessed us because we honored Him more; now we just ‘deserve’ them even LESS!!  He has blessed us richly out of His Own Goodness, not ours, but when we turn our backs on Him time after time, He leaves us to our own devices and will withdraw His Blessings for a time.  May God comfort that poor man’s family. (

well you did set yourself up for it. you replied to so there when he was talking to this moron strtlk and strtlk has an history of doing this crap.

Vinny made the mistake of answering for strtlk. He got his ID’s mixed up. Vinny’s profile is a fake, I checked it.

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Wow!!! Sorry folks…didn’t mean ot get your panties in a wad. Here is the quote from the Huff Post Business story filing “While some news organizations say that no one helped the collapsed man, his wife refuted this report. Lynne Vance said six nurses shopping in the store came to her husband’s rescue and performed CPR until paramedics arrived, notes the Sunday Gazette Mail. You can read the full story at the Huff Post, and you will definitely see this quote from his wife. As I said, I’m not sure all reports out there are giving the full story. Is it possible some reports only want to tell a bad story and ignore that there might have been some good involved?? The story is still up at the Huff Post under Business if you want to read their full account.

you don’t have to remind me of that i seen him do it.

You are so correct in what you say.  When God is removed from sight, then, God, being the gentleman that He is, will no longer be around to help.  He gives everyone “free will” and it is up to those people who ignore Him  to make it on their own.  He is, of course, merciful, but He doesn’t push the door down, He waits for us to open it.  What happened to this poor, unfortunate man is so sad.  I give kudos and thanks to the two or more who came to his aid and to the employees who called 911.
     I love Target stores, but, I intend to find out  from management if it is, indeed, true about the rule that employees cannot help injured or dying people in their isles.  If true, then, I will definitely stop going there, EVER.  I just hope and pray that it isn’t true.
     I pray that this man’s family will feel God’s comfort and the  strength of His Holy Spirit during this sad and difficult time.  God bless you!

I don’t drive a truck lol, never have.  Where are you getting  this info from??  You don’t need my personal information to use against me and put me on your watch lists.  I don’t feel like getting visits and being watched and felt up every time I wanna fly.  Thank though. 

Why don’t you take a hint and go somewhere else? You libelous lies about Glenn Beck plus you lies about being in the Military show that you’re a sicko, not to mention your fixation on children.

I like the “silver spoon” compliment, it took me decades to put that silver spoon in my mouth.

You’re a tick on the A$$ of humanity and this new persona isn’t helping you spread your crap. You just don’t know how to put a credible timeline together. It’s what tripped you up the last time.

You’re a Phony Soldier and it doesn’t matter what fake ID you post under it will always come out.

“TM”

No, we haven’t ever ‘deserved’ God’s blessings…He blessed us because we honored Him more; now we just ‘deserve’ them even LESS!!  He has blessed us richly out of His Own Goodness, not ours, but when we turn our backs on Him time after time, He leaves us to our own devices and will withdraw His Blessings for a time.  May God comfort that poor man’s family. (

After watching the weekend news on the riots in stores, pepper sprayed, fighting over a game, riot over $2 waffle maker (really riot over a waffle maker) these people are completely out of control.  So when a story comes out about a man that dies in a store, not surprising. Should never have happend but not surprising at all.  And we really shouldn’t have that feeling but in todays culture and the way people fight over nothing especially the $2 waffle maker, nothing is surprising.

Imagine this 
500 people outside a grocery store, but the store only has 50 loafs of bread. What would happened in todays enviroment. What would the response be?  would the elderly and children get the bread or would they be thrown to the side? we saw the response of the Japanese in their tragedy but what would happen in America?
They fight and almost kill each other over a video game or waffle makers, what would they do if there was very little food?

What do you expect, the HotairPost goes to full length to outright lie in their reporting, they do not even apologise for this OFTEN occurance when it gets out.  So why would they be considered a reputable or even close to the truth report?  I despise all at that shiothole rag of an excuse for employment.

If I have no facts, zero, nothing to go by, I will believe Glenn 99% & Huffington 1%, and I dont believe there were 6 nurses shopping in any store at one time, unless it was a hospital cafeteria.

Ryan, are you kidding me?  He’s lying to you.  My profile is not fake.  What did you check?  It’s private.  It’s cool though.  You guys wanna believe it, thats fine.  Whatever helps you sleep at night.  I thought we were getting to common ground Ryan, but apparently your just a fraud trying to manipulate me.  I’m not that guy, I don’t attack people with slander like he does.  Not my style, unless someone like Glenn attacks someone first.  We should all Skype at the same time to show some of you how ridiculous this all is. 

strlk, did you serve in the military too or are they just grouping us together? 

“MYNYAN” perhaps. ’God is a title. God is not a name.
 Whose ‘God’ was it that blessed America.

Coming from someone who doesn’t believe in a personal GOD I am only able to speculate according to the evidence that “A FORCE” that is unexplained, and no one has ever reached the point that this ‘FORCE whatever it is, has given the World both good and bad and evil! Shall we sum it as say inventions and technology. The question is what are we, and what will we do with it? 

Since I have not seen the first one why would I post another.

May God forgive those who failed to help that dying man. I personally have a difficult time trying to forgive them, but as god wishes I shall.

It appears the comment that was my first one someone didn’t like. So I’m outta here.

This is what happens to people when they let money replace God.

This is not surprising, it happens in many venues, including churches, schools, ball games and casinos. A person collapses on a casino floor and people continue playing their game, security and EMTs arrive to assist and the players pay no attention.    

I went to the web-site and some people did walk over and around the man before the nurses could help him. The Huffington post is made up of bloggers, they don’t pay too many people they rely on others opinions, the Huff post is not a reliable source of news, in fact most news people never tell the true story.

Well now Vinny, I’m getting it from you, don’t you remember?

I ran convoy’s up and down MSR Tampa and MSR Dallas for months in that 120-130 degree weather with 50lbs of gear in a HMMWV that only spit out blazing hot air. You can believe it or not….I could care less.

There’s no watch list little man, I just want you to back up your outrageous claims that you were in the Army for 10 years and why you didn’t deploy until 2009?

What was you MOS and what unit were you in? Simple questions that wouldn’t identify anyone. What school did you get your 2 degrees and when did you manage to get them while being in a Top Secret position in the Military. Lets see, at least 6 years full time, while in the Military, maybe 8 or 9 years to get 2 degrees. I know all about that stuff being a “Lifer”.

So please, clarify those few things for me Vinny/strtlk. You’re a story teller pal. (putting it mildly, I call you a liar)

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Your IP should be banned from this and all Yahoo, Disqus, and other forum sites..

I apologize. It did make it. It just disappeared so I thought it did not.

On my screen, Mr. Gannon’s comment is attached to the story about the man dying at Target during Black Friday shopping.  So although his comment makes a lot of sense standing alone, it appears strangely disconnected to discussion of the story on my screen (just as Downyonder stated.)

You never served Vinny/strtlk. Your make believe postings to each other are funny stuff. Lets see, you both like the same phrases “silver spoon” for example, you have the same fake education (2 degrees and part time teacher) just like mtclayboy. No coincidence here.
You both hate Glenn Beck and blame the Jews for all our problems both in this country and in Israel.

Fess up you Phony Soldier and quit with the charade.

LMFAO

“TMP”

“TMP”

You know Glenn I remember watching an episode of The Golden Girls, which is definitely to left of center in its underlying and hidden agenda recently that sadly addresses it. The reference was talking about the first Mr. Bush’s term and called him the introducer of the “me, me, me ” generation. Sadly, I think that particular generationis being exemplified now by what you described here. By the Occupiers, who want free housing, houses, food, whatever. The really sad thing is that they do not know the things that they purport will eventually lead to the situation as was in Russia before the econmic fall, in China’s hidden problems, and in the fall of Greece and the eventually the Euro. Keep it coming Glenn, keep it coming!

Ummm  the untimely death of America

really? step over a dying man to save 10 bucks. SHAME ON YOU!! God comfort their family

This proves America is not great. No offence, but you are a very sad, pathetic loser if you step over a dying person in order to save a couple bucks. God comfort that family, this is unacceptable. 

it was a little weird that he was talking to the other guy and you happen to answer his attack on strtlk which has changed his name over and over again open new profiles. not saying you are him but what you did was weird.

i seen it myself.

So Ramble on or whatever u call yourself where is the link you are talking about. WHY did U not post the link yourself in your demeaning email to Glen?

Michael you and 36 others including Karenene are the ones Glenn’s talking about. A man dies, your concerned about Obama?

This story reminds me of the (true) reports about an occasional pig farmer who falls into a pen and is eaten clothes and all.

What bothers me most is that this man wasn’t magically transported to that Black Friday event. He was a willing participant, and sadly, another statistic. It may sound strange, but I’ve seen plenty of people have heart attacks in civic and church settings; they’ve somehow received prompt, lifesaving, treatment.

How can you expect humane treatment at an event where the name of the game is lust, greed, and unrestrained selfishness?

Strange how when Vinny is around, strtlk is absent.

Now strtlk will show up out of nowhere and Vinny will be absent.

“TMP”

What? Can’t take a little fake perceived criticism?  Get tough.

So I went else where and the Blaze pretty much sums it up ; )

So anyway, I read the story on Drudge which linked it to the paper of origin which had comments from the local people who were actually there and knew him!  Look the guy was OLD, he had heart trouble, he had a bypass in 2000- it was his time! Probably would not have been saved. Due to budget cuts (thanks libtards) a fire station close by was closed which would have had a defibrillator faster. There was a nurse and an EMT guy there who helped him. Crowds of people were around him not stepping over him. They and the store called 911. MAYBE one guy stepped over him, maybe not. If you don’t know CPR get out of the way- continue doing your shopping or whatever, some folks suggested dropping to their knees and praying- oh that would help traffic- blocking the ambulance crew on the way in.  This is a much ado about nothing rabble rousing anti-capitalistic story planted to sensationalize OWS. Well, Black Friday set new records, they LOST- LOL!

I also read that same story.  It was on AOL Welcome screen.  It is no longer on their screen, but it was still in my history.    I unfortunately did NOT notice the first time I read it that it was written by the Huff Post.  There goes all the truth in reporting.
Here is the link:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/27/black-friday-target_n_1115372.html?icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%7C115827

I add my voice to yours and call for blessings for this fallen man and his family.

It’s sad that no one had the training or the will to risk helping another in distress for a time, but heartening to know that two among us did step forward to assist, and obviously others had already called 911.

Under the Good Samaritan laws, you have a positive duty to at least report to the authorities, but it is your choice whether to do more. If you decide to take action, you are not permitted to stop until relieved by competent help and/or authority. If you do render aid, you are immune from prosecution and civil action, provided that your actions are considered reasonable to the circumstances. It is a terrible mistake to do something, unless you have some idea of what you are doing…

I never watch that lowlife in the White House, he has taken this great Nation lower than it ever has been, and is getting worst every day. If President Bush had done half what Obummer has He would have been impeached two years ago. But no one will do any thing to him.

Yes, Glenn we do need to turn back to God and pray in faith that this nation and it’s leaders will also.

President Nobama has been the most devisive president we’ve EVER had. He has gave mainly Left Wingers the Green Light to dog America and talk down to her… However, all that it prove’s when any IDIOT talk’s down about America is that they have NEVER traveled….. They have NO IDEA how blessed we are as a country and sadly, for the first time EVER, which is actually a good thing, we see it…So even though he has hurt us as a country, he has awakened MANY that did not believe these NUT cases existed….
God Bless America, God Bless our Troop’s, and PLEASE God, Bless these Fool’s that know no better…
Also Lord, please help us in our fight to get every IGNORANT Bastard out of office and if it was at all possible, sent to Russia???? Amen….

This doesn’t surprise me at all. 

I try not to go shopping on Black Friday, or on Christmas Eve, but I have done so on at least two occasions.  Those are frantic, fast-paced times.  I compare it to trading on the floor of a stock exchange.  Who’s going to notice a man dying there?

If you take the time to do something, whether it’s to dial 911, hold that man’s hand, calm him down, be there for the paramedics, guess what happens?

You miss out.  

And while you may have saved a life, you may have lost that gift you were going to get.  Is that worth a man’s life?  Heck no!

So don’t.  You’re not qualified anyway.  What are you going to do?  Give him mouth-to-mouth?  The “experts” say not to do that anymore, and they keep updating the methods for CPR every so often.  Is your CPR card up to date?  What’s more, if the man didn’t have the good sense to go on Black Friday with a friend or a relative, someone who ought to give a damn, then it’s his risk not ours.  Who are we?  His keeper?

It’s the government’s job to take care of all of us anyway.  They took responsibility, it’s his hard luck if he didn’t make it.  That’s the risks we get for utopia.  That is what we’re living in, right?  Where I don’t have to worry about people like him when I’m racing for the latest deals on Battlefield 3 or Skyrim.  Isn’t that what utopia is all about?  Someone else to handle the ugly tragedies of life so I don’t have to?

Why miss out when I don’t have to? 

True, maybe one day I’ll be on the floor of that mall, dying, wishing that someone holds my hand in my last moments.  But I’ll understand.  Just hope nobody looks at me when I go, because I’d rather they not be disturbed.  

America has a population of people who only care about themselves. These are people who shouldn’t be allowed to waste precious oxygen due to their self worth. God help if I’m out shopping and someone trys to spray me to get an item. I’ll respond with a lot more than they’ll ever comprehend if they live afterwards.

like i said weird.

STUFF, all for STUFF that means nothing and has no REAL value!! So sad, so so sad… I would not participate if they gave the crap away for free!

Dear People please pray for America that those hard time will stop and you will have better time.

Please pray for not having famine that will turn people to cannibals.

I pray to GOD to save this world and soon.

I actually see 2 articles on the same page..one about the dying man and the other about our luck ,luck lucky president…can’t believe the discussion over comments related or not related to each article. Let me sum it up for you..The poor man was very unlucky to be in a crowd of materialistic boobs and lost his life. If this nation was still spiritual verses material we would have felt very blessed to help a fellow human being and not be thinking how lucky we were to be first in line for the new what ever. I do not want to think that these shoppers are the reflection of who we have become and that they rely on luck to get  through the day. This country has been so blessed. It came with a price through blood sweat and tears. I think these two articles are very connected….OK, now you can tear my comment apart

If people act like that over a sale for toys, just think how awful it will be when they are going for food.  Keep telling them Glen hopefully some will wake up before it’s to late.  Thanks for all you are doing!  KD

To all of you who ignored this suffering man for material goods, may God have mercy on your sick souls.

Just goes to show Black Friday shopping ain’t for the faint of heart. Three hundred and sixty five days in a year and this guy chooses Black Friday to have a heart attack while grabbing stuff for under the ‘X-Mass’ tree.
Maybe it’s time to step back and reflect a tad about WTF CHRISTMAS is all about.

Glenn states WSAZ News reported this. Go to their website. Here is a link to their article:
http://www.wsaz.com/news/headlines/Man_Dies_on_Black_Friday_Shoppers_Unfazed_134507443.html

Here is a part of the article:
“Kimberly Rowland is a nurse and was shopping with her sister when she saw Vance and tried to help revive him.

Rowland says Target employees blocked off an aisle and called 911 while another held Vance’s head.

The 61-year-old was rushed to the hospital, but later died.

Rowland says there were many people nearby, but no one she saw was ignoring Vance.

“I didn’t see anyone walking by him, anyone that was
heartless,” Rowland said. “Maybe that happened right before I got to
him, but when I got to him he was getting help. We were doing everything
we could for him, ya know I would hate for that to be the last image or
the last thoughts they had of him that no one would help.”

Target did issue a statement Sunday saying “Our thoughts are with the family during this difficult time.”The original article has the statement of a bystander who mentioned some ppl did not have concern. Let’s all take a step back and use our heads. Media will try to sensationalize the situation. Our local WSAZ News Channel3 is NBC and they do hype up stuff. They UPDATED the report because several people who were witnesses say they got it wrong. Imagine that… MSM hyped up something to make news. It sure did that and it spread like wildfire! While here in WV we have a bunch of redneck hicks, and a bunch of ppl who suck the life out of the welfare system, are obese and toothless, we do care about our fellow citizens in time of need.

This story doesn’t suprise me at all. This country is full of “me,me,me” people who cannot think beyond their own wants and desires yet if the man had been a family member or friend, they would have been outraged at the other people who stepped over the man to get what they wanted. I look back to Dr. Spock and his radical child care book in the 1960′s that told parents not to discipline their children because it could harm their personalities. Those self-centered children grew up and had children who were even more self-centered and irresponsible. Dr. Spock apologized before he died, said he was very mistaken in his theories, but the damage was done.

Ahhh, I think God wants us to stop killing our babies first before he considers answering any prayers.

What about the woman who sprayed pepper spray into the LA WalMart crowd?  So to celebrate Jesus’s birthday, she burned a bunch of people.  That’s why I don’t do Black Friday, these folks don’t have their priorities straight!

Hit the nail on the head Glenn.  I think you as well as most conservatives already knew that our country had become like this, that is why we have lost most of the blessings God originally bestowed to us.  It takes a story that is so out of this world, like this poor man, for it to reach our conscience.  Most of the time it is in our subconscience and we know deep down we have become like this, but there is not always an example like this in front of us.  There is a verse in the Bible that touches on this issue, Im not sure the exact verse, but it says that man will worship the creation instead of the Creator.  We have become a selfish people where no one is important but themselves.

YES! that what we need! Open warfare in the market place. You get-um big boy.

I hope he had time to check-out and pay before his unfortunate demise.

WE ARE EVIL PEOPLE SAVED BY GOD JESUS GRACE AND LOVE ; SOME HEARTS ARE LIKE STONE AS WE RECEIVED JESUS SPIRIT NEW HEART CAN WE DO GOOD! EXAMPLE
Eze 18:31
Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have
transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for
why will ye die, O house of Israel?
Eze 36:26
A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the
stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you
an heart of flesh.
Here are the remaining matches.
Eze 11:19
And I will give them one heart, and
I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take
the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give
them an heart of flesh:
Hsa 4:11
Whoredom and wine and new wine take
away the heart.TO THE JEW FIRST THEN ALL!

The least  someone could do is talk to the man and try to reassure him help was on the way.  Or if he was passing then, he held your hand knowing he was not alone.  God rest his soul.
As to Obama, the day was about God and His gifts to us that we are grateful for, not a “lucky” country. 

Sir, I graduated High School and served in the USMC, a woman marine.
I point out to you that you, the pot calling the kettle black, don’t seem to notice that your own spelling needs some work. 
     Actually, I question what in the heck you are even talking about. I was talking to someone entirely different  and can’t for the life of me, see what you are talking about in the mish mash of words you sent to me. 
     Maybe you could try again with clarity.  Thank you.

“Forgive them for they know not what they do!”

I guess I see what you are referring to the untimely death of America, but how does that make sense when the subject is the untimely death of an AMERICAN!  Isn’t that the issue at hand?  This is my first time to ever comment on the site and I am not sure of the rules, etc.  If I am doing something,wrong, then forgive me and Iwill try to do better.

dude… read the story on WSAZ’s website… Kimberly Rowland is a nurse and was shopping with her sister when she saw Vance and tried to help revive him.

Rowland says Target employees blocked off an aisle and called 911 while another held Vance’s head.

The 61-year-old was rushed to the hospital, but later died.

Rowland says there were many people nearby, but no one she saw was ignoring Vance.

“I didn’t see anyone walking by him, anyone that was
heartless,” Rowland said. “Maybe that happened right before I got to
him, but when I got to him he was getting help. We were doing everything
we could for him, ya know I would hate for that to be the last image or
the last thoughts they had of him that no one would help.”

Target did issue a statement Sunday saying “Our thoughts are with the family during this difficult time.”They updated their story because several eye witnesses had said he was getting help and this is blown way out of proportion. WSAZ is an NBC affiliate and you need to take that into consideration.

Our nation is bleeding profusely from deep inside many,many wound’s soon to be pronounced DEAD ! I think no I know the answer ! IT’S CRISTmas & here’s the answer MATTHEW 6:24 !
        
           OUR DEEPEST SYMPATHY to the loved one you’ve lost may GOD give you peace.
                                                                     

This weekend we had the opposite experience in Seaside, Oregon.  My mother-in-law fell and was immediately aided by various people on the street, who stood, offered support, ran to get ice, gave us towels and baby wipes, etc., and demonstrated a huge amount of concern.  So, at least in Oregon, and might I dare say the Northwest, people still care about their fellow Americans.

Thank you so much.  After reading what you just said, I think I now understand what Mr. Taylor Thomas was trying to say.  I don’t understand at all what he sent to me, but I think I get the gest of it.
I don’t agree with his statement at all anyway.

Actually, I heard this report was false.  His wife said six people stepped in to help.  

My heart hurts for this man and the family he has left behind!  God help those individuals that stepped over his body in search for material possessions!  I believe there’s a place for them; it’s called hell!  We reap what we sow! 

My heart goes out to the family of this man!  There is a place where people go that stepped over his body;  it’s called hell!  We reap what we sow!

This story is actually overblown.  The man’s wife said that six nurses helped her husband, gave him CPR, and stayed with him until the ambulance came.  Maybe, just maybe, the people were not sooooo terrible as we are being told.  If anyone would be critical of the shoppers, it would be his family, and they are NOT supporting this story.

I went to one of those CRAZY DAYS over 20+ years ago and that was ENOUGH FOR ME!!! You needed Combat gear to survive that and it isn’t worth it!!! THAT IS NOT CHRISTMAS TO ME….Love you guys at GBTV!!!

Nice Vinny Spoof Phony Soldier.  Funny stuff.

You’re a tick on the A$$ of humanity.”TMP”

I don’t know Lamar but I do know that you’re a liar Vinny and your fake post to yourself aren’t fooling anyone.

“TMP”

Matt 24:12  “And
because iniquity shall
abound, the
love of
many shall
wax cold.”
Rom 1:31 “Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural
affection, implacable, unmerciful:”

We have reached the point in human history where things are more important than people.  Have we forgotten that this time of the year gives us the opportunity to override our selfish tendencies and offer good will and peace to our fellow men?  However, since we have been brainwashed to devalue human life we have become lower than the animals.  Have we forgotten that two millenia ago Immanuel was sent to us.  Isaiah 7:14.

Luke 2:1-14:
   1.  And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from
Caesar Augustus, that
all the
world should be taxed.  (And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria).  And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city.  And Joseph also went up from Galilee,
out of the city of Nazareth,
into Judaea, unto
the city
of David,
which is
called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage
of David:)   To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.  And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered.  And she brought forth her firstborn son,
and wrapped
him in
swaddling clothes, and
laid him
in a manger; because
there was
no room
for them
in the
inn.

And there were in the same country shepherds abiding
in the
field, keeping watch
over their
flock by
night.  And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about
them: and
they were
sore afraid.  And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings
of great
joy, which
shall be
to all
people.  For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which
is Christ
the Lord.  And this shall
be a
sign unto
you; Ye
shall find
the babe
wrapped in
swaddling clothes, lying
in a manger.  And suddenly there
was with
the angel
a multitude
of the
heavenly host praising
God, and
saying,  Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward
men.

We have become the most savage of all the animals.  We know better.  This is what happens to a society that forgets God!!!  If God does not judge America, He will owe an apology to Sodom and Gomorrah. 

 

We reap what we sow. We have sown to the god of this world. The harvest is ripe. What is the bounty? Indifference. Coldness. Uncaring. Self-centeredness. How can we expect more from ourselves when we invest so little? Sadly, this doesn’t shock me at all. It makes me almost ashamed to be of the same species as these people. Only humanity could allow such. Turn back to YHVH our Elohim. Before it’s too late.

This happened in my hometown, and the story is tragic, but also inaccurate. According to one of the nurses who attended to Mr. Vance after his collapse (not eventually as the report states, but almost immediately), the fellow customers and the store employees did everything they could and should have done. Employees immediately called 911 and blocked off the area so that no one else, unless qualified, could enter. The man had had stint surgery only two weeks ago, and was shopping alone. Again, this is a very sad story, but it seems that it has been sensationalized for the sake of a headline…I expected more from this organization, even if the original reporting was also to blame…  read the update here  http://www.wsaz.com/news/headlines/134507443.html

This is just craziness, what has our country become? I am with Glenn on this. I would have been shouting and calling people stupid and self centered. Makes me mad as hell!!!

In order for a society to be good, it’s people have to be- as individuals.  For that to happen we have to be aware of what is going on and know the truth and then we can choose to do the right thing.  I think in general that is what Glenn is trying to do through GBTV.  It takes courage to stop and do something that is against what the group is doing it is unnatural but if your self-aware and question you won’t fall into that trap.  It seems like these people were in their own little worlds with their eyes firmly fixed on the “prize”.  A few apparently weren’t hypnotized and took action to help this poor man.  Perhaps all evil is selfishness.

How tragic. My thoughts and prayers are with his family.

Before condemning people, Americans and America itself, one should get a clear and true picture of what really was happening. I know that Beck strives to tell the truth above all else, but please get the story straight and full before committing us to doomsday. This is just another example of shady reporting. I’m sure that if someone had a heart attack in a public place, others would NOT be trampling on the fallen person. But I can bet anybody that a call for help would have been instant.

Yeah, you are right; Obama is lucky. Though I believe that his luck is about to to run out.

2 Timothy Chapter 3 describes our day and age. Paul saw our time and warned us.

1. This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3. Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4. Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5. Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7. Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

I’m one of five lay preachers at our church. This last Sunday I had the opportunity to preach on Advent and how we should spend some time waiting in line for Jesus (www.wheresthelinetoseejesus). I see a lot of videos from security cameras of people being beaten while by-standers just watch. How pathetic have we become? Out of my way, man. I have a sale to get to!! 

I refuse to participate in Black Friday, as far as going to shopping centers.  I would rather hit my toe with a hammer than submit to that.  You can get a lot of the same sales right over the internet, and nobody gets trampled, maced, shoved, etc. in the process.  Frikkin’ animals.

Maybe Michael is not as far fetched as you think; “as go with the president, so goes with the country.” or I could just quote an old saying; “the fish stinks from its head”.

With other words: when the president hates his own country from the depth of his heart, why should the citizens care for each other? 

It is very tragic. And you might not see it, but there is a relationship between the two. 

Yes, Glenn, you are correct!!  In my opinion, if our president knew God as he claims, he would never say “lucky”.  Blessed is the correct term.  Thank-you, Father, for blessing this nation and each of us and our families and friends.  Turn back to God, America, and God will bless us again and again to over flowing.

The ridiculousness of Black Friday and what people will do for a bargain is beyond me.  I don’t participate in Black Friday, I refuse to be part of that madness.  For those who do I pray you will find the true reason behind the season and it’s not about the best bargain at the local Walmart. It is about the birth of our beloved Savior and the fulfillment of God’s promise to us. I also pray for the family of this man and for the souls of those who merely disregarded his need for help by stepping over him to get to their bargain. 

It doesn’t surprise me.  If someone can walk into a locker room where a 10 year old is being raped and doesn’t do anything to stop it, something is terribly wrong with the type of people we are becoming. 

???? huh???

Down Yonder should go back to school??? and I suppose, you should go back to your speech pathologist. Right? Right.

If video is available  zoom in on those that ignored the dying man and put it on all media outlets and repeat these words “maybe YOU could have saved this man’s life, if YOU only cared ” or “what if this were YOUR FATHER or HUSBAND or BROTHER”

One should not be surprised that a shopper died while others walked over him, We are no longer our brothers keeper. As a young lad when our friends become ill, We would go over and take care of his chores, And when we became ill he would come help us. Now it is not important to help him, Rather its better to go over and rather than help him, We just steal or take every thing we can. We have become a society of it’s mine, and what you have is mine also. I am not one to judge, However I have made a pact with the devil, And he has promised to put me in charge of the shovel crew. And I do intend to keep all you self centered ass holes very warm. And I will try to be as caring to you as you were to this man that died under your feet, This will be PAY BACK TIME!!  When you say it’s as hot as hell down here, then I will know I am doing a good Job    .Bless ya???

You think you can understand what Mr. Taylor was trying to say? Good for you! I don’t have a slightest clue other than suspecting that he is suffering from communication disorders.

P.S.
You are welcome to comment and speak your mind freely like any body else. It’s a free country!

You can’t argue with the free market

God, I remember how virtuous and kind humanity was until Obama got elected.

It is just unbelievable! It must be very hard on the victim’s family. I wish those ignorant people would stop just for a minute and imagine if this thing would have happened with them or with their loved ones. How would THEY feel? everyone just stepping over, no one cares… 

“what goes around comes around”

Yes, what you are saying is true. This is the law. If one provides aid while not trained properly in CPR, and the victim dies as a result, one can end up in jail. And perhaps, that is why a lot of people afraid to get involved in saving a life. But even then, one can call for help instead of just stepping over.

A man died while shopping, and that makes news, several soldiers get their legs blown off and not one word, I for one can see what we are doing here, We have people on food stamps, We have 40% that don’t pay taxes, I guess they can’t understand turbo tax filing. you have government workers making twice what non government workers make. unless you are union, so the solution is this, give everyone a government job, And make them join the union seiu, or some other commy outfit. Pay them twice what they are worth, Plus give them a retirement package that will equal the pay they are now getting after 20 years, tax all the government workers to take care of all those that don’t work and don’t want to work. And make sure that everyone has all the medical help they need, This will be for all whether you work or not.remember they were born in america, and america owes them this, And with a chicken in every pot, we will be the best taken care, even better than the great society, remember that under LBJ, It was pure crap then and it may have another name now “intitlements’ But it is the same crap. With the government taking charge of everything, enjoy your last days of freedom. Long live the dictator. You voted in these dorks, so be happy with yourself. 

Here is a tid bit that wiil show just how people are these days.

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So
much for Buyer protection from Amazon.com

 

I
received the wrong parts from Amazon’s sellar

 

I
response to my request for an RMA prepaid shipping label I received an email
that stated “We have waived the 15% restocking fee and

FEEL it is only FAIR that you ship back the
parts to us at your expense.”

 

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Do not worry!I cant spell but jump in and say your peice.
this is a sad day for AMERICA.  NO WONDER MANY WISH FOR THE GOOD OL DAYS.  even though we know they were not all that good, but not many storys of Americans dieing in the mitz of a sale. I have heard of nightmares of macys twice a year basement sales as far back as macys. but nothing like this.God bless him and his family.
 We have lost a good measure of our civility sence the good OL days.
Do unto others,as you would have them do unto You!  or karma..I say all you that steped over that gentalman.. repent.. and do it now.
see I did it. now you do it

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Don’t bet on it!!  America is and has been going down the wrong path for a loooong time.  When you lose your moral compass anything is possible, including stepping on a dying man!

Knowing the media as it is today, it was reported as Glenn said, but was a sensationalized news piece that was not entirely true.  The man fell during the rush and later died, but according to later reports he was helped.  The media of today CANNOT be trusted.  Lies about some people are common, yet nothing is said about Eric Holder and Fast and Furious and Elena Kagan’s misleading testimony at her nomination hearing, again nothing about that and she won’t recuse herself.  Where is the name of Heaven is the balance?

Glenn… It would be easier for me to say im shocked, suprised or even upset by this news.  The truth is… I am NOT suprised, Im not upset… im disgusted and sadly nothing suprises me anymore.  I’m only 32yrs old with a family of my own.  It’s amazing how people are so worried about one thing… Greed!  Selfish is an understatement… it has been said if you were a “wise” person, you need/would “live like you never lived before, so you can live like you never lived before” (i think i got that right). Bottomline… we(society)have lost common sense, respect, loyalty and humanity in general! My this family find some peace after such a loss and those who just walked along… well, that is something they need to live with for the rest of there lives and then after!

The connecting links between Obama and the shoppers at Target are “callousness” and “self-interest”.

Sorry if you were offended. It was not my intent. I’m sure you have never made a smarty remark about people who are killed in the running of the bulls or about sky divers who end up dying. Thank you for establishing and bringing to my attention how sinful I am. I hope you feel much better about yourself. I should have discussed how things are going to be when people are starving in the streets. Do you think their behavior will be worse when they are hungry instead of just crazy trying to get a few bucks off the cost of some junk made in China? Anyway, I’m sorry I offended you delicate sensibilities. I am glad I did not post the other 2 comments I thought about though.

My heart goes out to this man’s family.  One can only hope, that God steps over or overlooks, all those

who walked over or around this man.  May they rot in HELL.  Jokes on them ——- They won’t need the

sweaters, they just had to have.

This tragedy deeply saddens me. I work at a store where the customers are, usually, very nice and
respectful, even on Black Friday. It makes you wonder though, when so many
Americans complain that they don’t have any money, that the lines are all the
way through the store at midnight Black Friday. Aaaahhhh, credit the answer. The credit
cards that I’m expected to sell to our dear customers. We try to fill empty
lives with stuff and more stuff and then return what we bought a couple years
later because we’re broke. Yes, we’ve seen many people return things – even
jewelry that they bought 2 years ago, because they need the money. In the meantime, truckloads of stuff are being delivered to the stores
all throughout our city every single week so that we can buy, buy and buy more
of the perfect sweaters or perfect socks or perfect tablecloths. What would
Jesus think if he saw how much money was spent to get the “perfect Christmas” at our house if he could grace us with his presence at the celebration of
his birth? Is that why he came down to save us? We’re missing the point. What
else could be done with that money? What happened to our priorities? Trust me,
I really really would like to get my daughter the pink Christmas tree just
because it is so pretty and we didn’t have pink Christmas trees when I was
little. What would be the harm in that? What more of a gift would it be to
spend the 45 minutes it would take to drive to the store, pick out the tree -
not to mention all the time and money I would need to spend to decorate it –
wait in line to buy it, you can see where this is going… What if I spent that
time with her reading Bible stories? When people are more familiar with Santa
Claus than Jesus Christ, it’s no wonder that it’s come to this.

So very sad. My prayers go out to his family. They should pass a law and make Black Friday against the law. People don’t care about anyone but themselves and getting the sale which will go right back on sale after Christmas.

So very sad. My prayers go out to his family. They should pass a law and
make Black Friday against the law. People don’t care about anyone but
themselves and getting the sale which will go right back on sale after
Christmas. 

It would have taken a couple of seconds for someone to call 911.  None of these shoppers carried a cell phone?????  I keep hearing stories like this .  No argument from me,  Glenn.  ”what type of people have we turned into?”  Obama calls America lucky?   Yes we’re lucky to have had the greatest founding fathers in history,     I heard  Bill Oreilly tell a similar story about a rape in New York.  People walked around it.    We are becoming a nation of hate.

      Glenn,I hate to say it but I’m not at all,surprised about this!Look at what America has in the White House Marxist Dictator Barrack @Mrs.H.Obama!He’s an illegal no certified birth certificate,fake social security number!A criminal he coned the American people into believing that,he really cared.All he’s done from day one is lie,lie,lie and play is favorite blame game,does not take.One bit of responsibility for anything that he has done to,bring America down!His wife is no better when she says that,it’s the white people’s fault that blacks are failing!So as I said earlier the American people have no,example of a caring.President for the people of America so way should they,care if someone drops died!

Downyonder,   As Linda said—jump in and say your piece.  You have as much right here as the

next person to comment on a subject.  And, you will note, there are some who go ”off subject” but

that’s all right too.  Welcome.

”Aliza”, I’m with you.  I don’t understand Taylor Thomas either.  A big HUH? after his comment.

What do all the =”" signify?

Thank you for your service, Downyonder.   You will find a lot of vets at this site who have proudly

served our nation.  I’m not a vet but my husband is one.

sam,  Oh boy!   ”God testing those who walked by—”   Now, that is scary!   I pray for those who did

pass by, step over, go around the man have seen the error of their ways and have asked forgive-

ness.  None of them will like being reminded of their coldheartedness at the Day of Judgment.

I have no idea who vinny is.
Why do you insist on such idiotic lines of reasoning?

Sad state of affairs isn’t it. The numbing of America is what I call it. It’s a destructive virus that invades the mind of so many, a harding of the heart and mind so too speak.

Amen, dad, and we may know and have certainly heard about those who ”worship the almighty

dollar.”

I did.
I was in the Navy.
They don’t care though.
In their pathetic and cult driven view, no free thinking American could have ever served.
Don’t let their b.s. attacks on your service diminish from what you sacrificed for the U.S.
Again, they are mean, spiteful and arrogant a**holes who don’t care about the truth. They only care about putting people down.

OK BITCH.
LET US PUT YOUR LIES ABOUT MY SERVICE TO REST.
PLEASE, OH PLEASE PROVE THAT I DIDN’T SERVE IN THE NAVY!!!
P.S. Before you make a fool of yourself, note that I talked to my former ANAV and NAV and I am now informed on what I can and can not say about my job.
So, stop sucking from the golden teet and bring it on?

Ummm, thank you for the info on Good Samaritan laws.  God gave me a heart for helping and aiding, and that information is well received!  I’m so sad for the fallen gentleman and I prayed God’s peace for the family. >

cproud,  Won’t tear your comment apart because I agree.  We have become a very materialistic

nation because God has been replaced by — what?   Prayers are no longer allowed in schools and

even some sporting events have banned them.  There has been a ”war” on Christmas in some parts

of this country—in stores and in some communities.  It’s seldom you will hear a public person invoke

the name of God.  Your statement is true: This country has been so blessed.  I just pray it lasts.

OK, ”Red”,  Thanks for the info.

“Where is the balance?”  you ask, ”dance”.  Don’t expect it from the lame stream media.

Well, Aim4, the news wouldn’t have been so exciting or sensational if it was accurate!  The lame

stream media does have to get something out there for all to see and talk about.  After all the facts

come out, then, it can be buried or overlooked, or merely forgotten.

Hey Red, I read the article.  My comment is to all who ignored, not the one who helped. 

Restraint, land, can be the greater part of prudence.  : )

Sorry, Glen. I am so very sad to say America is NOT good. When we have Moms who so obviously murder their kids and walk away scott free, when people are murdered in their own homes, and medical care has become something that’s for sale to the highest bidder, when “education” means nothing but political indoctrination, when gay activists are allowed to bend the school curriculum to massage their egos, when more babies are aborted each year than are allowed to be born, how can we say America is good? When we have military Chaplains who aren’t allowed to pray in Jesus’ name, we are truly rotten to the core. I could go on for hours listing all of the corruption this nation has succumbed to, but I think most of us realize that somewhere along the line, we have turned into a selfish, evil culture; one that can walk past a dying man because, after all, we’re shopping! Still others who might have wished they could help were probably afraid to do so for fear they would be sued for breaking some unknown rule or law. It just doesn’t pay to help anymore, but thank God for people who aren’t afraid to get involved. I hope that if that ever happens to me, there will be a nurse, doctor, EMT or just a good Samaritan to call an ambulance for me and hold my hand, but I don’t know, it’s getting to be such an alien world out there.

I agree with you, Daniel. We have permitted the legal system to hamstring anyone who’d offer to help, from medical personnel to concerned bystanders. As I said before, lots of those people probably thought about helping, but changed their minds for fear of some kind of legal retribution. What a sad state of affairs we have come to.

That’s true, though I think it would be pretty hard to actually kill someone with CPR (notice I didn’t say impossible). I think that every school should go back to requiring students to learn CPR, I remember that when I was in school we used to have health classes where that was one of the things that were taught. Do they still do that, anyone? Anybody who wants to be prepared should look up CPR classes in the area where you live, they are usually free. I received my BLS/CPR card in nursing college, but you can get one without having to go to college. Do it ASAP, you never know when you might have to use it on one of your own loved ones, friends, etc. Red Cross, American Heart Association, and some of the larger hospitals will often have courses available. Trust me, it is worth it. If you’ve never saved one person’s life, then I can’t describe how wonderful it will make you feel, and even if you never have to use your skills it can bring you a little peace of mind just to know you can.

Maybe he is a little off course, Brittster, but it’s true none the less. I agree with Alizatamara613, the fish stinks from it’s head. Think that over, and I hope you see the connection, because it’s all part of the big picture. This nation is in serious trouble. I’m old enough to remember the days when things like this would have been unthinkable, and it saddens me tremendously. God bless you.

Except that alot of us have serious doubts as to whether this is even the president’s country to begin with. I agree with you, though.

Maybe not, but he’s not done much to help.

We just celebrated our DAY of GIVING THANKS!

LOVE YOUR FELLOW MAN AS YOU WANT HIM TO LOVE YOU!  Oops! Thats in the BIBLE…..
Would you want a kind person with you as you draw your last breath?  I would.

The Good Samaritan Act is different in each state.  For your Peace of mind, check with your state on Laws.  In most states, medically trained (nurses, doctors, anyone that has to have a valid CPR Certification Card) are held to a higher standard under the law.

As a nurse I am held to the higher standard, but I stop in spite of my advanced age and limitations.

Would be nice to get some footage of the incident and have it posted on all networks so that the wonderful bargain folks can see there true selves in action when ignoring the gentleman. My wife and I have decided many years ago to simply go shopping when we wake up at a normal time. If the item is no longer available then we simply move on to the next best deal. It’s just an item people – focus on the greater things.

Housewares are more valued than a human life??? this attitude, in part, stems from Roe v Wade. How we treat the least among us defines us as a nation.

This is nothing new.  I was imployed at a local department store in the late ’70s which had a warehouse sale once a year.  This very same thing happened in the orental rug department and “people” continued flipping through the very pile of rugs the man colapsed on.  However this was in the D.C. metro area so maybe the me,me,me has spread.

Wrong post

Proof is better than assertion. Why do you insist on lying? We all know you are just another sock puppet.

Deacon Ludano comment and agree what  Mr. Glenn was and had said. Although, I am not an American we have to turn to God for the beneifts and grace we’re enjoyed in the last centuries this pres said you American are :lucky” We “did” not turn to “HIM” and thanks him for a memont we are heavily focused on materialism and perosonal greatnest. It is sad very annoyed what the dying man died withouth people helped out of respect of a 61 years of man passed on.

May we look again and see what the reason of becoming a people of God.

Turn to God.

Deacon

If you think that this story is bad you should read the free solution to most health problems on http://www.watercure2.org.  No matter how many people get well at no cost, our government & medical science have no interest. as approx. 2700 people die daily of easily cured problems..

I can’t believe anyone really thinks this group going by or stepping over this poor man were thinking about the Good Samaritan Law. All they were thinking about was to get the Black Friday bargain they came to get and that was more important to them, not someone on the floor and in trouble. What has happened to our country that we don’t care about our fellow man in trouble. My heart goes out to his family and their loss. May God comfort you for your loss.

Whether you know CPR or not is not a good reason to not stop and help your fellow man. We must bring back America’s moral standards and to care about each other again.
May God help us all to wake up and get back our America to what it used to be.

My thoughts only….

a great way to turn America around quickly,…….

is to teach our young children the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob’s’ BIBLE.

In only 18 years we would have a Godly America!

Maybe you could help teach a Sunday School class at your church?!

Just a thought.

The God of Creation 1st,
American Carol Hayden

My thoughts….

The most effective way to create a new Godly America….the God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob…
Is to teach our young children in Sunday School.

In 18 years….. we once again have a Godly America.

My thoughts only,

Jesus is our only hope now,
Carol Hayden

My thoughts….

In 18 years, if we Christians once again teach our children in Sunday School and Wednesday school about the God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob and His love and forgiveness and ways,

we can once again have a Godly America!

Would you be willing to volunteer to help teach Sunday School?

Jesus is our only hope now,
Carol Hayden

did you know the guy?

Shame on you Glenn Beck. Sensationalized headline is very deceiving.  How do you know that people just walked on by and did nothing? Do you know for sure that some of those passerbys didn’t call 911?
If you don’t have the training to assist someone, you don’t touch them, you call 911.  I took a CPR course recently. Our instructor told us that 3/4 of people with CPR training do not use it on someone because of the possibility of being sued if the person ends up dying.  And if you see someone helping the victim, what good does it do to stand around and watch.  Move on and stay out of the way.  Your headline is bogus.  I am so disappointed in you Glenn. 

I don’t know where you get the idea that you can’t be sued if you help someone whether or not trained.  My CPR instructor told us that most trained people don’t help because they could be sued if the person dies.

You’re a liar.

“TMP”

Boo Hoo, mtclayboy/strtlk, no one is buying your lies. I don’t care who you talked to you Phony Sack of crap.

You’re a Phony Soldiers and a tick on the A$$ of humanity.

Here I am you little weenie, tell me all about your super secret make believe fantasy life in the Navy.

We already know your past lies, add some new ones to the list.

“TMP”

What then would one say if a person had a history of heart disease and yet chose to enter into a stress filled event, not to mention probably in a mad rush through the store. I can appreciate prudence but I can also sppreciate the irony in a situation. Frankly I would not be caught dead in a store on Black Friday…Ooops, sorry.

Nice post to yourself you weenie. Funny stuff from a psycho liar.
You’re a liar and a Phony Soldier strtlk/mtclayboy.

You’re also a bigot and a hatemonger and a lonely little weenie who likes to threaten people and then run away.

Liar.

You’re a liar and a Phony Soldier strtlk/mtclayboy.

You’re also a bigot and a hatemonger and a lonely little weenie who likes to threaten people and then run away.

“TMP”

Sometimes it makes it difficult to even want to keep holding on.  Is shopping so important?  I often feel like I’m a dinosaur because it feels like so very few of us live an honor code.  I still do.  Not for anyone else, but for myself and God.

I think the legal system has dared us to help anyone. You can be sued if you do the wrong thing. Technology has also made us antisocial and indifferent. I praise those who took a chance and helped the man. The rest need to take a hard look at themselves and ask, “What if he had been me?”

I cannot even imagine doing nothing while someone is dying on the floor.  Its just not in me, I would have to try to help someone even if I got in a scuffle.     We see the complacency and apathy by alot of people, well guess what the bible predicted in 2nd Timmothy 3: But Mark This, There will be Terrible Times in the last days.  People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without Love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of Godliness but denying its power.  Have nothing to do with them.  The Lord is taking account of all that is going on!

Oh boy, aren’t you arrogant and conceited?  I believe the sugject here was the savage, unfeeling
behavior of the greedy populace we have become in  a short couple hundred years. There are a
relative few left who are not rude and untrained in etiquette and good manners feelings for others
but, I believe either they or their parents were here prior to the evil 1960 era. We need to reverse
our tracks and become people again rather than wild animals.  Virginia Weaver

“Man’s Inhumanity to Man” Shame,For Shame on all of Those Shoppers that did not help immediately.

It’s also a terrible mistake to step over a man having a heart attack in the eisle.  At the very least, provide a barrier with your body blocking the way so other calloused people will be prevented from such dehumanizing behavior.  This is a head scratcher.  I don’t care if someone else called 911 or these people didn’t know enough to help effectively.  The milk of human kindness has nearly dried up and apparently it’s up to those of us who can still feel compassion to show the way.

After doing some homework on the true meaning of Black Friday http://thecitydesk.net/2006/11/21/why-its-called-black-friday/ . I am going to have to reinstate that tradition within me not only for Mr. Laurence H. Black (read the article) but for those who lost there lives on that very same day. Black Friday will soon be a day of mourning if these heartless actions continue just to get a good deal on an item that may only have a two to three year life span. Let’s focus on the bigger picture and not the thumbnail folks.

I am not surprised by this all. I love this country, but the sad truth is that we’re on the edge of the abyss so to speak. If we don’t do something to change (as a nation) then we’re gonna fall right in.

I am not surprised by this all. I love this country, but the sad truth is that we’re on the edge of the abyss so to speak. If we don’t do something to change (as a nation) then we’re gonna fall right in.

God be with this family in this time of need.

 The real reason they don’t want to abandon Afghanistan is, because of the Exxon Mobile’s pipeline pumping oil from Afghanistan. George Bush Jr. brags he went to Iraq for the oil, to show off to his affluent friends. So instead of half the national deficit, we have it double, they want to build permanent bases in Iraq and Afghanistan, so big oil, and the Republican’s can get rich. So why do they want to make Afghanistan a permanent duty station so they can protect the interest’s of big oil and the pipeline, before they started drilling and pumping oil out of Afghanistan, the country was considered the largest untapped oil resource in the world. They don’t talk much about the pipeline now because the Billionaire’s and corporations have silence everyone. I don’t vote and support neither party, nor will I be a registered voter, ever, because I never register to vote. George Bush Jr and the Republican party wanted to control the oil infrastructure of Iraq, and Afghanistan to enrich themselves, Billions traded for the corporations, while America accumulated Trillions in national debt, not such a good trade off, but it was for 1% of the population. The people of Afghanistan live simple lives as farmers and ranchers, living off of mountain goats, and sheep’s, and simple crops, too stupid to realize what they have an abundant source of natural resources that they do not benefit from, while Hamid Karzai hordes over 100 Billion in secret accounts for himself. The people of Afghanistan use horses and donkeys, and pick up trucks, as their main weapons, while military contractor’s keep building new weapon system’s for themselves and get richer, America goes down hill in debt. China owns 11% of the national debt, and Japan owns 10% and they are over 200% over GDP in national debt. So who owns most of the national debt Private Security Firms profiting off the national debt of the U.S.  They want to go to war with Iran that will cost the U.S. 90 Billion a year, instead of executing precision strikes.  Like Iraq, they always have known, since they have too much oil, no economic sanction will work, and only by declaring a full scale war can they actually bring about change.The real reason they don’t want to abandon Afghanistan is, because of the Exxon Mobile’s pipeline pumping oil from Afghanistan. George Bush Jr. brags he went to Iraq for the oil, to show off to his affluent friends. So instead of half the national deficit, we have it double, they want to build permanent bases in Iraq and Afghanistan, so big oil, and the Republican’s can get rich. So why do they want to make Afghanistan a permanent duty station so they can protect the interest’s of big oil and the pipeline, before they started drilling and pumping oil out of Afghanistan, the country was considered the largest untapped oil resource in the world. They don’t talk much about the pipeline now because the Billionaire’s and corporations have silence everyone. I don’t vote and support neither party. George Bush Jr and the Republican party wanted to control the oil infrastructure of Iraq, and Afghanistan to enrich themselves, Billions traded for the corporations, while America accumulated Trillions in national debt, not such a good trade off, but it was for 1% of the population. The people of Afghanistan live simple lives as farmers and ranchers, living off of mountain goats, and sheep’s, and simple crops, too stupid to realize what they have an abundant source of natural resources that they do not benefit from, while Hamid Karzai hordes over 100 Billion in secret accounts for himself. The people of Afghanistan use horses and donkeys, and pick up trucks, as their main weapons, while military contractor’s keep building new weapon system’s for themselves and get richer, America goes down hill in debt. China owns 11% of the national debt, and Japan owns 10% and they are over 200% over GDP in national debt. So who owns most of the national debt Private Security Firms profiting off the national debt of the U.S.  They want to go to war with Iran that will cost the U.S. 90 Billion a year, instead of executing precision strikes.  Like Iraq, they always have known, since they have too much oil, no economic sanction will work, and only by declaring a full scale war can they actually bring about change.

Exactly the reason I don’t go shopping on “BLACK FRIDAY”!  Plus the fact I have 0 money to spend!!

Your instructor is wrong. The Good Samaritan Laws throughout the country vary, but generally hold those who render aid immune from criminal or civil liability. In this case, the following apply:

West Virginia

W. Va. Code Ann. §55-7-15 (1966)(Gen. Stat.)W. Va. Code §16-4D-4
(1999)(AED User limitation on Liability)W.Va. Code §16-4D-1 (1999)(Legis.
Findings)W.Va. Code §16-4D-2 (1999)(AED Def.)W.Va. Code §16-4D3
(1999)(Early AED programs)W.Va. Code §55-7-15 (1999)(Gen. Stat.)

Provides immunity for rescuers
Provides immunity for acquirers and enablers
Encourages/requires training at CPR & AED training at AHA Standards

Check your own state’s statutes and be sure…

What a sad day when our commercialism comes before our humanity. We are a blessed nation and to complete Tolstoy’s quote…” America is great because America is good. When America ceases to be good…it ceases to be great.”

Amen.

..the love of many will grow cold. Christ warned us. It’s happening.

We take the life of babies in the womb, why not just step over an old man suffering a heart attack on the floor ? 

We’ve turned into a society of pure greed.  This is just sick.  The true meaning of Christmas, the birth of Jesus Christ, is lost because of greed for stuff.

The stores who encourage this competitive, greedy behavior are equally to blame. It’s absolutely nauseating! Please, “Beam me up, Scotty!”

I doubt anyone went through that thought process. You give them too much credit. For all you know they thought he was OWS and they weren’t going to let him win.

OK, someone does not know CPR. Does that prevent that person from kneeling next to the man and clearing a space? Or from putting a jacket over him? Black Friday is an anthem to mad acquisition, and the simple fact is that these folks were not going to be distracted from their bargains. Sad.

I think that it is sad that commercialism has taken yet another family holiday. It used to be fun to get together on Thanksgiving as a family, look at the ads & husband & wife or family decide who was going to go where on Friday morning. Now the sales start two weeks in advance. The stores are open on Thanksgiving & it’s another day that the family is torn apart and that is unfortunate.

I live in this region (SE Ohio, WV, E. Ky).  There is more to this story …. the nurse and parmedic only preformed HALF CPR!  The man had blood on his face so they did not give mouth to mouth.  They did not wipe the blood off or cup their hands to attempt to give the man air. They may as well not done anything, in my opinion. 
May God grant peace on his family.  And wisdom and faith on the others.

Tis the season…to be greedy, heartless, desensitized, superficial, self-serving vultures!  This has become the sad new “true meaning” of Christmas! Good will toward men has become part of the past. Christmas has been altered by politically correct obsessions, thieves preying on shoppers, and the goal of getting as drunk as possible at parties!  I treasure my childhood Christmasses. I would have those days again.

I’ve asked before and I will ask this again. What kind of a person can simply walk around or over someone in need of aid without at least trying to render some kind of assistance?

people are so greedy it is disgusting *

That is so sad.  I am so sorry.  It makes my heart very sad for his family.  May Gos’s peace and love be with you

Downyonder: great respect and gratitude for you and all the other veterans and our present soldiers as well! We need patriots. 
Thank you.

And here I thought I was the worst man in stores on Black Friday! I had a knee injury and so I asked someone for a cart before he was done with it to give it to me after he was done, but he just grabbed his stuff and gave it to me, which was very nice. I then took this cart, put my cane in, then, using it something like a walker, I moved hurriedly through the crowded place, eventually running over someone’s ankles.

I immediately cursed myself and apologized profusely, and I still feel bad about it.

I guess the point is, this is inexcusable; even what I did was pretty horrible, but I was definitely a bit out of control. Oddly enough, I also was in West Virginia, though not in this particular store. I would have freaked out if I saw this, I would’ve called 911 to come, and asked those there to help if they knew how.

. I believe there is a connection between the man dying and Obama in the fact that people just don’t care anymore. Care if a man dies right in front of them or enough to get off their couches and vote for a decent Godly leader. If one doesn’t care the subject also becomes irrelevant, so we end up with a crooked and skewed society, as we have. Oh, and in Texas if you DON”T render aid YOU CAN be charged for FAILURE to render aid. Just a thought for the more “progressive” states to consider

I think the first report of this story mentioned that this might have been the case but the nurse who gave him CPR states that she did not see anything  like this and he was getting help when she arrived.  The follow-up to this story is on the WSAZ website and she is quoted at length which makes a point to counter this rumor from what appears to be either one person or a reporter making the story bigger than it was. http://www.wsaz.com/news/headlines/134507443.html  this is the story with the follow-up

I think everyone needs to read the real story and not one that is added to by staff.  The follow up to the real story tells what really went on as opposed to the first version and a more accurate one from the nurse who was there and gave CPR.  http://www.wsaz.com/news/headlines/134507443.html

Most folks do not need to be in the way or watching like a show esp if they have kids.  The man was taken care of by people as well as the store staff who blocked of the isle he was in.  NOTE he was not in the door way of the store and people walked over him like they made it sound when the story broke.  I heard the story on the news since I am here in WV and it sounded worse than the follow-up that has an actual witness as opposed to someone said something!!

Always do your own research and never believe all that you hear or read.. THIS IS WHY IT IS NEWS!! 

I hope and pray his friends and family handle this well and are able to cope and adjust through this difficult time during the holidays. 

So why was Glen and his other mouth piece bashing the nurse… ‘she didn’t get her dvr, was she part of OWS, etc.’.  The nurse is the one who stopped to help.  Don’t use her as sarcasm.  I guess I don’t get Glen’s humor on the radio.  I never missed his TV show, but have never enjoyed this stuff.  Just my opinion…  I do think our country has become self-centered and selfish.  Just look at all the sitcoms that are popular.  We need to turn back to God in order to change.

I live in this region (SE Ohio, WV, E. Ky). There is more to this story …. the nurse and parmedic only preformed HALF of the CPR! The man had blood on his face so they did not give mouth to mouth. They did not wipe the blood off or cup their hands to attempt to give the man air. They may as well not done anything, in my opinion.
May God grant peace on his family. And wisdom and faith on the others.     

But know this that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, self-assuming, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, Having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self control, fierce, without love of goodness, betrayers, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God. 2Tim 3:1-4

Just sounds a little familiar.

Unfortunately law  that does not keep you from getting sued.  If you have any kind of a license you are doubly careful, because that law no longer applies in many states.

Michael, I owe you an appology.  I went back and re-read the story and realized that Glenn did, indeed, say something about the word “lucky”. I guess I was focusing on the man and the crowd and let “lucky” statement slip out of my thought pattern.  Please forgive my statement about “what it has to do with the man”.  I am truly sorry.

Truthfully and nicely quoted Deb.  I pray many will be led to followup on these scriptures and will find out TRUTH before it is too late.  God can use this unfortunate circumstance at Target to cause others to turn to Him allow their lives to be changed. God bless you.

Have you noticed “remington45″ that the beginning of America’s downfalling can be traced back to when prayer was removed from schools?  Now God is being removed from even the mention of His name and more  especially the mention of His Precious Son, Jesus.

God help us and hear the prayers of your saints who continue to call out to you.

No, I can honestly say I have never made such comments because it is just not my nature and those things just don’t come into my thoughts.  All I could think of was the family of that poor man will spend the rest of their days and Christmases without their loved one.  It just was not an appropriate statement to make at that time, if ever.  I’m sorry if I came on too strong with you.  Please forgive me.

Yes Max, and we know the actual facts of this travesty because they showed the video footage of the actual events as they unfolded.  It broke my heart to see that little child lying in the street.

Good to know the facts, for sure!

Actually, nobody can truly judge what anyone else is thinking, or what motivates them, and I wasn’t trying to do that. I was simply stating that a lot of people with good intentions who maybe would have helped in bygone times, have now been discouraged because of our legal system, and that goes for anyone who would, as you suggest, even clear a space or put a jacket over someone. It’s not hard to imagine some lawyer accusing someone of negligence for not having done even more than they did. Courts, juries, lawyers, they do it all the time. Defendants have their motives for doing something second guessed as a rule. I was not making excuses for those who didn’t care, just pointing out that we have no way to tell who did or did not do something for what reason.

Did any of you see this? Elk rescues drowning Marmot. It goes to show, that animals are more civilized than a lot of humans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPomex97Sls

Thank God for you Glenn Beck.  For what you do and what you say takes a tremendous amount of
courage.  I admire you and I have learned more about our country  and its history than I ever learned in
school.  What possibly could have been more important than a man fallen to the ground with a heart attack, was it the waffle maker, or the blue sweater, or the electric toothbrush?  One day the person or persons walking over him will be haunted by that memory when faced with a similar situation.  Maybe it
will be when they are eating the waffle.  My heartfelt compassion to the family  of that man..

Vinny, no point flagging SoThere, you know.  No one here has provided more disinformation and deformation than you.  YOU should be flagged.  You’d rather trust the Turks and Russians for news concerning America than ACTUAL news sources.  Go back to your Young Turks morons or whatever they are now, okay.  You do realize that NOTHING they will ever say will ever be relevant, don’t you?

Vinny, you call SoThere’s attack on you an unwarranted deformation of character and then attack this website to be a Freemason’s website.  Talk about an unwarranted deformation of character.  We can ALL sue you for that outright lie, you know.  And concerning that it is extremely easy to prove the lie, taking everything you have won’t be very difficult to do.

Forgive them Father for they know not what they do, these were the words of Jesus Christ, I pray our Father in Heaven forgive all those that chose to put more importance in an item, than in a human life, what has happened to us, what if that would have been your father, your brother, your son. Would any of you have done the same NOTHING to help him??? What ever you do, to the least of my brothers, you do unto me. We all need to drop to our knees, and ask his forgiveness, turn back to God, ask his blessing, knock on his door, ask his forgiveness, beg for his wisdom, and knowledge in his word..I can’t believe this sort of thing can happen in our country.

To Oakcreek1, you are correct.  The very name alone turned me off in the begining and I have never gone out shopping on this day.  I want nothing to do with “darkness”.  (has nothing to do with the color black, in case someone is inclined to think I am racist.  This is begining to be a trend also.)  This Nation needs to turn back to God rather than trying to allievate Him from sight and mind.

I am an R.N. and I wish I had been there and seen him. I might have been able to do something in those first few minutes to save his life. I would have talked to him and told him he was not alone.Im so sorry. Those people are doomed. What has happened to people??God help us all!! 

I do not think it is wise to scare the general public about helping someone like the man who fell and died. Most people are scared already because they think, what if I dont know what do,maybe someone else will help, besides what if they try to sue me(Ive heard of that).
People dont have to be trained professionals to help. They can call 911 and stay with him and so he would not be alone.(That is called compassion) If people were stepping over his body, that also could have been stopped.   

Folks…meet our grown-up former day care kids!!! I saw this coming 30 years ago!!!

Ruth, I hope I didn’t scare anyone. If you read my posts carefully, you’ll see that I was reassuring people that they would NOT be liable to lawsuit for helping.

You don’t have to be a professional to be trained. I have taken Red Cross and other first-aid and CPR classes many times over the years. It’s not that hard to help, if you want to…

As long as you have manufactured scarcity you will always have violence and lack of compassion. Sales forcing limitation on amount sold in a very compressed time frame are designed to tap into the primal fight or fight instinct that switches peoples brains into the mode of I must look out for myself above all others and all else.

I could never do this-not help.  Can’t help it.  I pray for the broke down truck on the side of the road or the  people involved when the ambulance, firetruck or police car go by.  How awful?  BLESSINGS To this man and his family. Thanks for letting us know so that we can pray for his family and BLESS them all.

Dear Downyounder,
I am not racists either and I don’t want anyone thinking what I said was because of that. I just really think it’s to out of control. This is not the first person who has died due to Black Friday. That one year that poor lady who got trampled to death and she was pregnant. It’s just sad and there is nothing that is on that good of a sale that I can’t live without during that time. My life and my family and my daughter are way more important and come first, than trying to get something on sale like that. It will just go on sale after Christmas anyway and if they are still wanting it I can get it then. I do my shipping and put it on layaway just in case someone changes their mind. Christmas has gotten way out of control. We don’t even celebate the true meaning of it anymore and our kids don’t even know what the real meaning stands for. It is Jesus’ birthday and we need to celebrate that. I made the decision a couple years ago that I was going to teach my daughter the true meaning of Christmas. She would get presents but I want her to know who’s birthday it is and why we have Christmas. She is able to tell me everything she gets the next day or the day after that when I ask her, Some can not even remember what the got the day after. She has really enjoyed it since we started celebrating it the way it is meant to be and is suppose to be celebrated.
God Bless you and your family. May the rest of the year and all next year bring you a blesssed year. )

The word “luck” brings up a red flag.  Perhaps using the word is a bad habit that has sprung out of the vernacular from lack of vigilance.  Still, no excuse.  Be mindful of the source of all blessings.

It makes me positively SICK when I see how people behave all in the name of Christmas for a day that is not the birthdate of Jesus, and he doesn’t get any gifts, not even the respect of these horrid people who call themselves Christians !  The date, Dec. 25th comes from the Roman Saturnalia and had nothing at all to do with true Christianity. All the celebrations are pagan in nature, not bringing any glory to Jesus or his Father, Jehovah. So someone had to die for people to show their nature of greediness so they could buy something before everyone else.  God help them when the day comes for judgement to be given to all these hypocrites whose actions certainly are not what Jesus taught us to be. I hate it when all these pagan holidays begin with Halloween, and every month has something to get people to buy a bunch of stuff they don’t really NEED anyway.  I’ll be so happy when all of them are over forever !

So deeply sorry for the family of Walter Vance. What a tragedy. Where is security from the store in all this? I simply cannot believe people would just walk around or step over a human being to do ANYTHING. Just wrong. I am a Retail Store Manager and I can tell you that would NEVER happen in my store. WE ALL CARE for Human life

my buddy’s sister makes $72/hour on the laptop. She has been fired for 9 months but last month her paycheck was $8210 just working on the laptop for a few hours. Here’s the site… CashHard.cöm

they need to ban black friday all together.It just shows how unfeeling people are.

Glenn, you are absolutely right…this country is filled with greed to a point human life doesn’t matter any more. God has blessed this country more than we can ever imagine…do we still deserve it???!!!

They don’t have to ban it, people just need to clue in. All because it’s black Friday doesn’t mean you have to buy like crazy when you don’t need it and kick and fight people over a video game.

But I understand where your coming from.  It really is stupid

This is what happens when HOLY days become “holidays” and then holidays are lowered to
Sale-A-Days. The only thing that many retailers and shoppers care about and now WORSHIP
is the “Almighty Buck”! I work in a major department store and have worked in clothing and/or
department store retailers for decades and it is getting WORSE. Luckily I work for a FAMILY owned Department store chain that still LIKES their employess enough to NOT make them
work insanely, unGODly, UNfamily friendly hours. The other major retailers ( and YES, I know
the economy SUCKS! ) are MIS-treating their employees, all for the sake of satisfying the “needs” of a minority of sales slobs. Where I live, the majority of customers are decent people.
But more and more are getting to be LAZY, APATHETIC, SLOBS who could care less about
their fellow shoppers, the sales staff ( who may have to work these kind of jobs due to lack of
education or the job market ), people in the parking lots, etc..
It’s only been a few years ago that a Wal-Mart worker in New York was trampled to death by
uncaring sale-a-holics who wanted to keep shopping AFTER the store had been declared a
CRIME SCENE!!! Then this tragedy at Target and the pepper spraying shopper?!? Where does it end? Or more appropriately, where will WE LET IT END??? Some states still have “blue
laws” in regards to liquor stores and car dealerships NOT opening on Sundays. Will the insanity
and GREED of continued “Black Friday” madness eventually push us to bring BACK similar
laws so that retailers won’t be able to MAKE their employees work on what we USED TO CALL
holidays ( HOLY days ) or early AM hours that TOTALLY screw up peoples natural sleep
rhythms and possibly mess with their HEALTH??? Many retail workers like me are beginning
to DREAD and even HATE the “holiday” season whos REAL meaning has been lost to sales.
Don’t let JESUS CHRIST turn into the CHEAPEST PRICE holiday. And BTW…Merry CHRISTmas!

Being focused and being inconsiderate are two different things. Being down right unconcerned is in a league all by it self. I pray the people who turned their heads or, worse still, stepped over this dying man will have a visit from their inner man, or woman, and realize that when someone is having a heart attack every second counts. These people should be ashamed.

Amen.

a majority of people today are focused on material possessions…not life.  that’s why this story even made the headlines.  let us NEVER forget how we would want to be treated if the same thing happened to us.

so sorry to this family…what’s even sadder is the Firestation directly across the highway has BEEN SHUT DOWN due to so -called budget cuts. 

Was it really worth a life people? What the hell is wrong with this Country?

The bible talks about the end times and how people are growing cold and its in matthew 24..read it and weap what the world is coming to..

This is a reflection of materialism, I am sorry that their is so much coveting.  Black Friday is not food….just think about the food situation.

I pray that this man`s family finds the peace and comfort  of God .It is a sad state of affairs indeed when we as a nation and people can simply just step over a person in need. God bless this poor man. My heart aches for him and his family.It shows how callous and uncaring people can be when they can commit such  an act as to just step over a dying person. If they really did this then they will be judged by God for it because in a sense  they have this mans blood on their hands. God help us all.