The most offensive building ever? South Korea’s 9/11

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It’s quite a unique design but it so clearly looks like the World Trade Centers when they were attacked by terrorists on 9/11/01. Is this building – which is still on track for construction – a purposeful slam on America? Is it a celebration of the terrorist attacks that killed 3,000 innocent Americans?

Below is a picture of the building:

The Blaze reports the following:

These residential high-rise buildings to be completed in Seoul, South Korea, by 2015 are connected in the middle by a cloud, which the designer says “differentiates the building from other luxury developments.”

The towers designed by architects at MVRDV are 300 and 260 meters high with a “pixelated” cloud in the middle at the 27th floor. The cloud allows for more light and room for decks and greenspace.

Since initially reportin this story, The Blaze has learned that an apology has been issued:

Since the posting of this story, MVRDV has issued a statement of apology (be sure to click “read” on the site to see the statement) over the design. The design company writes “MVRDV regrets deeply any connotations The Cloud projects evokes regarding 9/11. The Cloud was designed based on parameters such as sunlight, outside spaces, living quality for inhabitants and the city. It is one of many projects in which MVRDV experiments with a raised city level to reinvent the often solitary typology of the skyscraper. It was not our intention to create an image resembling the attacks nor did we see the resemblance during the design process. We sincerely apologize to anyone whose feelings we have hurt, it was not our intention.”

  • Anonymous

    Pure evil

  • Anonymous

    Those people need to do their research maybe a tad bit better…. or maybe just use a little common sense

  • Anonymous

    sounds a lot like Corzine’s answer. “I don’t/didn’t know.” i’m not buying it.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Simple answer for this monstrosity of architecture — IF they build it, we will leave and not come back. PERIOD.

  • http://twitter.com/Gann0n8r Michael Gannon

    How much money are we giving to South Korea? If it’s more than zero, it’s too much!

  • http://profiles.google.com/boggsmeister Justin Boggs

    I believe them. I think it’s a cool design. I think they should build it. Maybe we should get over ourselves just a little bit.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think they intended anything. But I’d still like to know more about the person who designed it and where the funding came from. I don’t see why they would actually be trying to offend us.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ICC66X6KJF7G2DQFLZ552Y76YQ David

    Imagine the outcry if this building was made in an Arab or Muslim nation! However, I do find this to be offensive. However again, they are a free nation and we should not let trivial things bother us! We have no right what so ever to tell another nation that they can not design a building do to our sensitivity! Do you think architects in South Korea are still thinking about 9/11? Do you think 9/11 is on anyone’s mind outside of the the US? Probably not! I don’t like it, but wont make a stink about it!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ICC66X6KJF7G2DQFLZ552Y76YQ David

    Exactly! They have no reason to go out of their way to offend Americans. In fact I doubt they even thought about it!

  • Anonymous

    It was not their itention to resemble the attacks nor did they see the resemblance during the design process my foot.  Looks just like the twin towers after the planes hit.  Anyone who does not recognize this is not a true American!!!!  It is an insult to the United States for them built these; we already have a reminder in our hearts of that terribly tragic day, especialy…..after all we have done/and are doing for South Korea!!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ICC66X6KJF7G2DQFLZ552Y76YQ David

    Get over yourself! South Korea is one of our best allies! They don’t need nix a project because of American paranoia and sensitivity!

  • Scott Mcbride

    Maybe it was meant to be offensive, maybe the designers were just clueless.  Either way, it’s not an attractive design.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=778239331 Richard D. Brinkman

    For once and only once I agree with Glenn Beck, its an insult to Americans this building design. But for me the BIGGEST INSULT to America is not pursuing an INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION as to why those 3 towers were brought down by controlled demolition. Until those questions are answered truthfully the nation will continue to live a lie. A legacy of doubt sadly passed onto America’s children and grandchildren of tomorrow. 

  • http://twitter.com/modernminuteman james allen stamulis

    maybe if your relatives were in ground zero you might think about what you just wrote. 3000 dead and you say get over ourselves?

  • Anonymous

    I agree with Mr. Gannon and SouthernLady among others.  I do not believe that a 9-11 resemblance was what they intended – it struck me as a cloud the second I looked at it.  I’m just wondering what is up with people that immediately thought it was some kind of insult for 9-11?  Really, get over yourselves out there.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1327364838 Roger Funk

    They expressed the intent of the design to look like clouds intersecting the buildings.  I think we need to remember that 9/11 is very personal to us not other nations.  To them it is a news story that happened in 2001.  They fought no wars over it, none of their citizens died, they probably didn’t even watch it on TV.  I highly doubt they ever had a single thought about 9/11 when designing this.  I implore my fellow citizens to not jump on the bandwagon on something like this and give them the benefit a doubt.  I can see their design intent as clearly as the opposition sees 9/11.    One last food for thought.  The towers didn’t collapse at the same point half way up the towers.  If this was to mimic that event the 2nd tower’s bulge would be much higher.

  • Anonymous

    I believe it too. The south Korean’s last thought is how will this design be seen by Americans. Our captains of industry has made some pretty good blunders over the years.

  • Anonymous

    It may not have been their intention, but are they willing to change it now that they see the similarities?

  • http://thedoctorwhocurescancer.com TheDoctorWhoCuresCancer

    How do you say B.S in Korean? 

    But then someone who would make a design like that would also lie in their apology, wouldn’t they!

    I’d be willing to bet the apology was written before the photos were released.

  • Anonymous

    You sir, are an idiot!

  • Anonymous

    But we do have the right to stop economic aid!

  • Anonymous

    They aid us how?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1327364838 Roger Funk

    Attacking the architect of this building because it appears to resemble 9/11 and assuming he designed this to mimic 9/11 because it is dear to our hearts is pretty ridiculous to don’t you think?  I think “get over ourselves” is his way of saying stop overreacting to everything everyone else does.  Where is the evidence that this was the motive of the design?  Why do we always assume every other nation in the world has 9/11 and the twin towers imprinted on their minds like ours.  It was our loss.  Do you remember a single victim’s name from the train bombing in Madrid after 9/11????? I bet Spaniards do.  :)

  • Anonymous

    Hell, let’s just draft an architecturally “progressive” mushroom cloud building in Seattle which is home to the largest Japanese immigrant population in the U.S., publish it in ENR and see what happens. lol *sarcasm off*

    *sarcasm back on again* I’m sure they’ll get over themselves — it was a long time ago, after all.

  • frank sparti

    launch ground for any military activities in the region mainly, and being next door to north korea that is probably one that we are glad to have,

  • Anonymous

    Either this was a direct reference to the Trade Towers on 9/11 or these architects are complete buffoons.  As far as I’m concerned, they are trying to replicate the look of the Towers right after the jetliners hit them.  If they don’t cancel these designs, we would be justified in cutting off their aid.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_M2FCQMWVOC42CJ2OOT6GDBKXAQ Natalie

    Nearly 3000 people from 80 nations died that day in America. If this design isn’t an insult to them it is, at least, in extremely bad taste.

  • Anonymous

    Per capita South Korea is the most Christian nation on the planet.  With that said evil will attack where evil can.  In the spiritual realm there is a reason one of the worlds most evil dictators controls North Korea. (chess board)  We should not assume the worst from our friend South Korea.  If a brother offends you speak with him as a brother, which is our Christian duty.  Then if he gives you the bird, that’s one.  We are taught to turn the other cheek and we only have two.

    http://www.BornAgainHeathens.com

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1030689626 Laura Bay

    @Justin- Ah no, you get over it.  if you were there and lost friends/family member your tune would be different. I was there, YOU get over your cold hearted and uncaring attitude. You obviously have no idea, nor do you care, about what happened that day. Move to South Korea if you like it so much.

  • Anonymous

    I can see the resembalnce, it is difficult not to, however I believe S. Korea in what they say, now if it was N. Korea instead that would be different.  However, now that they are aware of it, how about making some other unique changes to other parts of the buildings to make them look different and unique and vary them from the WTC Towers in that way.  It would be a nice thank you for all we have done for this ally over the years. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1030689626 Laura Bay

    I agree.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1327364838 Roger Funk

    Many of our Stadiums are built like the Roman Colosseum.  Do you think it was the architectures intent to celebrate the wholesale slaughter of Christians, gladiators, beasts of the wild, and other human life that took place therein??  I think the Colosseum is an incredible building despite its bloody history and its design is beloved simply for its design.  I think we should let the architecture have the benefit of a doubt before assuming he designed this to mimic the twin towers on 9/11.  And I’m as true an American as any and take umbrage with your claim that should I disagree with your opinion then I am not. 
     

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Sutherland/1460255854 Robert Sutherland

    ARE YOU SERIOUS???????  It’s an obvious attempt to make fun of the USofA

  • Anonymous

    Ok, People take a deep breath and relax. Man everyone is
    always looking for how someone offends them or disses them. I call it “I’m
    Special” complex, see my point of view or you are dissing me! Ask yourself this
    question, do you know about and stay on top of various tragedies in other
    countries? Not likely.

    If you are American that lived in the US in 2001, yes you
    will look at those buildings and think WTC. If you lived in South Korea in 2001
    you are NOT going to think WTC. I know this first hand as my nephew was going
    to school as a teenager in South Korea when 9/11 occurred and after a few days
    of coverage the news moved on. Pretty much the way US based news moves on in a
    day or so after terrorist blow up a train in Europe.

    One correction is that South Korea did go to war over 9/11,
    they are part of the coalition in Afghanistan.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1030689626 Laura Bay

    Stop overreacting? Did you lose anyone at the WTC? Maybe you need to learn a little respect there pal.

  • Anonymous

    Oh yes Glenn, do tell;  after all, sensitivity to other nations’ concerns is what the USA is famous for !

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Aimee-Simmons/100000284892002 Aimee Simmons

    Those of you who ask why would they would want to insult us have not been paying attention to the rest of the world.  Look at us!  We are being insulted by EVERYONE!  Including our own president.  He apologizes to EVERYONE!!  He BOWS to EVERYONE!!! 
    Weather you like the responsability or not, WE are a GREAT COUNTRY and we have been the most charitable and giving country in the world while we were in the height of our prosperity.
    While we are being eaten from the inside by the CANCER of SOCIALISM… which has failed spectacularly in every other country it’s been tried in, the rest of the world who feels any kind of animonisty to ANYONE at all, will take a swing at us while we are displaying our weakness and apologizing to every blade of gras who complains that we are standing in his sunlight.

    Maybe it wasn’t intentional, but Glenn is not wrong.  You can’t be a major power in the world, and NOT calculate how a major building project will affect someone elses views.
    Hell, we aren’t even allowed to SAY certain words for fear of offending some idiot two feet away from where we stand…  How a bout instead of SPREAD THE WEALTH  we abolish Political Correctness, and allow people to grow as human beings and gain character instead of tender tender feelings that are ALWAYS being hurt…
    It’s time to develope Thick Skin.

    Yes.  They did apologize which helps, but even that only helps a little bit.  I didn’t have anyone at Ground Zero, but I was home and watching it happen on the news the day it happened…  I will never forget, and I will never let anyone else forget…
    Respect is necessary to getting along with anyone.
    If I were to make a blunder of this magnitude, I would certainly apologize and on top of that, try to find a way to work with those who were reminded in such a huge way of a very painful and tragic terror attack, to possibly change the structure enough to make it a tribute instead of a seeming insult.
    It’s a small world.  Everyone needs to make consessions to get along, but I will not condone lessening US to make the rest of the world happy.

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure that the South Korean people as a whole didn’t mean to offend… but someone did.  Give me a break, Architects are smart folks, they take inspiration from all sorts of clues, both man made and from nature.  Everything they do is on purpose.  The twin towers stood out not just because of their size, but also because of their unique aspect ratio.  Those are the twin towers and the “clouds” are impact debris.  I hope this was just a joke gone too far…

  • Anonymous

    The more I think about it, I think Mr.Beck needs to apologize for overreacting. He called for pulling our bases out because of this. Now I do think we should pull our bases out of a lot of places, but not because of a weird looking building. This was a big deal about nothing.

  • Anonymous

    Why would the S. Koreans even be thinking about 911? If nothing was intended to be offensive, why should they even apologize? I say they should go ahead and build it. It’s supposed to represent a cloud in the midst of two skyscrapers.

  • Anonymous

    I think it is 1,000 times more offensive that a mosque is being built at ground zero in NYC. If it is intended as an insult then maybe the muslims will blow it up too.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JMFR2DD32467XKFFXLWIEXG2XA Ray

    If that’s their attitude, pull the troops out of S. Korea and tell them they can fend for themselves..and good luck

  • Anonymous

    *Liked* and agreed. Granting anyone their culturaldesign sensibilities, I’d just suggest they add a superficial windscreen to the tops of each tower, or something.Simply having a 4,000 yr old civilization doesn’t mean you obliterate current references on the modern conscience.I don’t believe any bald-face offense was intended, or that we were meant to “get over ourselves.” I think perhaps the designers, if Korean, were pushing the boundaries and crossing their fingers here — they’re not an egregious, stupid people. Hell, maybe it’s their idea of art, ffs. lolI accept their apology… on the condition they alter the design.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gordon-Campbell/100000824838396 Gordon Campbell

    South Korea is a HUGE ally of the USA.Stop LOOKING to be offended.Some of you people are as bad as the liberals in this respect.Grow the FCK up !

  • http://www.facebook.com/TokenGimp Layne Nelson

    Guess I can ad S Korea to the list of countries whose products I’ll try and boycott.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IB2HZ7B62CLPCG752YDQHFZV74 Larry

    Maybe it was, maybe it wasn’t… perhaps it was merely a subconscious thing the architects had going on… I for one am dubious of where the inspiration may have come from but won’t lose any sleep worrying about it, because I am a free man and can squander my emotions any where I want.  :-)  Personally, I thing it’s an ugly building and I wouldn’t want to go there, live there, or even take a.. package there… :-)  HA!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gordon-Campbell/100000824838396 Gordon Campbell

    Maybe you need to learn that you’re not the Queen of Everything,A$$nozzle.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1327364838 Roger Funk

    Young boy is molested as a child.  He grows up.  He gets a feeling that another gentleman is a pedophile and reports him to police.  That mans life is now ruined but he turns out to be innocent.  Did the victim of that pedophile overreact?  Or am I not being respectful of his suffering?  Being hurt doesn’t excuse lashing out at others as a knee jerk reaction. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gordon-Campbell/100000824838396 Gordon Campbell

    The Great Karnack has spoken.Open a window.

  • http://twitter.com/12StepGolf 12stepgolf.com

    Regardless of what they are depicting with this building, it looks like crap.

  • Anonymous

    My, my Gordie.  You tell folks here to grow up and then you use foul, juvenile language.  Nice.

  • http://profiles.google.com/boggsmeister Justin Boggs

    I get where you are coming from, but it is quite possible that everything that happens in the world isn’t about us. That more closely defines what I meant to say.

    Thank-you for being polite in pointing out where I might have sounded insensitive.

  • Anonymous

    South Korea’s next architectural achievement will be an Eleven Building Complex. Seven buildings designed to replicate the Seven 9/11 Highjackers that have been documented to still be living and Four invisible buildings designed to replicate the Four invisible Black Boxes!  Pohang Iron and Steel Company (POSCO) will be providing the specialized tested steel that will not turn to powder when it falls down. Truly an enlightened engineering achievement!!! 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gordon-Campbell/100000824838396 Gordon Campbell

    “Not a TRUE AMERICAN”.Lady,get over yourself.You are a disgrace to this country.

    Stings doesn’t it?Now you know.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1327364838 Roger Funk

    and just for the record, we lost a dear friend that day so you should think twice before writing off everyone else’s feelings that don’t line up with yours.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JKVX3VKUJZAWBS3OPFWDWYRRXQ Endgame

    Who cares? If Americans are so concerned about what REALLY happened that day,they would demand an end to the wars and a new investigation into 9/11 because it WAS in fact,an inside job!

  • Anonymous

    True, but have you seen a train station designed with what looks to be a torn apart commuter car?  How about one that represents a double decker bus with it’s roof blown off?  Just sayin’…

  • http://www.facebook.com/lgoodale Lisa Goodale

    A BIG AMEN to you Aimee!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gordon-Campbell/100000824838396 Gordon Campbell

    Hey SD BLOW ME.Is that better,buttaface?

  • http://twitter.com/Mr_Bob_Colorado Mr_Bob_Colorado

    woops

  • Anonymous

    It’s a little shocking to view-what were they thinking?     WOW!

  • http://twitter.com/Mr_Bob_Colorado Mr_Bob_Colorado

    they should just change the color scheme and design somewhat. It is a cool idea

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gordon-Campbell/100000824838396 Gordon Campbell

    Hey SD,BL OW ME.Is that better,buttaface? 

  • Anonymous

    LOL!! I think it’s funny.

  • Anonymous

    Such an angry person, aren’t you?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IB2HZ7B62CLPCG752YDQHFZV74 Larry

    Yes I do….

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1327364838 Roger Funk

    apples and oranges.

  • Carlos Frazier

    Even if they didn’t think about it during its design, common decency and respect (for the U.S., for our alliance, for international safety, for the sanctity of human life…) should direct them to pull their plans for it’s construction immediately upon the realization that this structure bears an uncanny resemblence to what the world still recognizes and remembers as one of the most horrifying events that many people have ever known.
    The whole world was shaken by 9/11 because no one knew what was going to happen. It was the most frightening and world changing event that my generation has ever witnessed.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gordon-Campbell/100000824838396 Gordon Campbell

    Pure idiot.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gordon-Campbell/100000824838396 Gordon Campbell

    You too,Miss.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IB2HZ7B62CLPCG752YDQHFZV74 Larry

    Roger,  Do you own shares in Hyundai…. or at least drive one? :-)

  • Carlos Frazier

    Mockery of an event as tragic and earth-shattering as 9/11 is hardly “nothing.”

  • Anonymous

    I lost several people in 9/11. I grew up in New York. While I can see the resemblance, I believe that people are overreacting. Get over yourself already. I’m guessing YOU didn’t lose anyone … you just like to pretend.

  • Brent Ryan

    I absolutely and abundantly agree with the idea that it looks neat and they should build it if they want it.  Most people who are getting offended would find something else to get offended by either way, so they should do what they want.  In short? haters are going to hate, so do what you want.

    Now if the buildings were an exact replica of the WTCs and the ‘cloud’ made to look like a couple 747s and then I could see there actually being some similarity,  But because the WTC were two identical standing skyscrapers, everyone in the world must nix all similar design plans for fear of offending us?

    Seriously?  the idea that this is an issue is as retarded as Islam getting angry at someone drawing a cartoon of Muhammad.  I believe in American exceptionalism and all but expecting the rest of the world to walk on egg shells around us with skyscraper designs is crazy.  There are only a handful of a number of ways to design buildings that high.

  • http://www.teamworkinspirational.com/ the Smoking Captain

    Who cares! ‘Qu’ils mangent de la brioche.’

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IB2HZ7B62CLPCG752YDQHFZV74 Larry

    That is just sooooo bad…. :-)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gordon-Campbell/100000824838396 Gordon Campbell

    South Korea is the ONLY thing keeping North Korea in check.How do you figure our depleted and stretched to the max armed forces could do a thing to stop an invasion?Grow up-read a newspaper. Past your bed time,Missy.

  • Anonymous

    I retired from the New York CityFire Department, and knew a number of firefighters who were killed on 9/11/01. With that background do I consider this building to be a slam against the USA – frankly no I don’t. This is an architectural design nothing more. One seeswhat one wishes to see, I prefer to see the cloud.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, get over yourself. I lost family and friends in the attacks. I don’t find this design offensive. People need to relax and get on with their lives. Stop trying to squeeze sympathy out of something forever. We mark it to never forget, but at some point you just have to move on. Enough already.

  • Anonymous

    It looks exactly like the 9/11 twin towers. The largest tragedy in the entire world in the past 20 years. It affected the entire Globe, including S Korea. There is no way they didnt design that intentionally like 9/11. They arent stupid. They have televisions and saw the attacks for weeks on tv just like we did. Should we build a building in the shape of a mushroom cloud and show it to the citizens of hiroshima? Whether it “looks cool” or not, its offensive to a lot of people. No class s korea, no class.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly… just as your comparison of Madrid to 9/11.  The sad part is that the Madrid bombing worked as planned and changed an election…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gordon-Campbell/100000824838396 Gordon Campbell

    Well I think it’s 759 times more offensive.Hyperbole thy name is wikkiwakii

  • http://www.facebook.com/tuckerbutter Kirsten Tucker

    Listen people. They are KOREANS, despite our close relationship not EVERYONE reflects, remembers or thinks about 9/11 the way we do.  It happened to US, not them.  This is an awesome and intuitive building design, not to mention cool.  Seoul is such an interesting place and for a people who had never had more than a decade of peace in their several millenial existence until the Armistace of the Korean War, I think their innovation and growth is spectacular.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1327364838 Roger Funk

    My brother drives a 2001 Hyundai Senata.  I drive a 2001 F350 Super Duty pickup truck and 2000 Ford Excursion.  What was the aim of your question?

  • http://www.facebook.com/ezziesmom Tina Fain-Evans

    Pretty obvious that is exactly what it is..speaking from a professional designers point of view. I know a knock-off when I see one.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IB2HZ7B62CLPCG752YDQHFZV74 Larry

    Yeah… Dave lost his daughter Melissa.. and I tear up just thinking of the pain that man went through… this stupid building had nothing to do with that, and complaining about it won’t help either…..

  • Anonymous

    Use your brain man. Why would they be mocking us? There is no reason. They would be stupid to offend us. We guard the DMZ!

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure that the South Korean people as a whole didn’t mean to offend… but someone did.  Give me a break, Architects are smart folks, they take inspiration from all sorts of clues, both man made and from nature.  Everything they do has a purpose.  The twin towers stood out not just because of their size, but also because of their aspect ratio.  Those are the twin towers… and the “clouds” can only be impact debris.
    Now I’m going to enjoy my life with family and friends… I suggest everyone do the same.

  • Anonymous

    Thats what they should have built at ground zero in New York. Maybe these liberals whould remember who our enemys are, and are capable of doing again.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WTQ5LSQZZCM3OPBU2W4SLLRZ54 LeeW

    They were…I did…and I agree.

    After all, it’s not like we disallowed any and all references to Pearl Harbor after that incident. If we did, we never would have had such great movies as Tora! Tora! Tora!, or even the semi ok movie “Pearl Harbor.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/tuckerbutter Kirsten Tucker

    Yes James, Bin Ladin is dead,GET OVER IT.  MOVE ON, cause remaining angry, bitter, and collectively stupid, doesn’t take the pain away for one nor mean anything to people who live in other Nations who are dealing with their own pain and tragedy.  How about you keep in your mind that North Korea has missiles, planes, and ships pointed south and they continually threaten the people there with forced reunion.  A continued threat that all that they have built up and created could be destroyed in an instant.  How would you feel is Canada or Mexico acted that way and had the crazy and weapons to do so…Get over it, we have more important things to worry about than a past that cannot be changed.  We have wolves in the white house and a crashing economy tied into the crashing world economy.  Worry about now, not a building in Asia that you will more than likely never see.  

  • Carlos Frazier

    Even if it is an innovative design and the resemblance to the twin towers on 9/11 is purely accidental (which I doubt), they have no common decency if they build it.
    I must say I am deeply offended by such a flippant, disrespectful comment as to say we should get over ourselves when speaking of reverence toward the events of 9/11. It was among the greatest travesties our nation has ever known and to so much as treat it lightly, let alone make a mockery of it, is highly offensive.
    Perhaps someone mocks the brutal murder of someone else’s loved one. Should the victims of the mockery just get over themselves? That’s exactly what this is. It was our loved ones and family members who died on 9/11. Such disrespect is absolutely revolting.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t tell me that other nations don’t connect with 911!!. there were more than Americans killed on that day. Why in Heaven’s name would someone dream up this monstrosity out of thin air?? Very peculier that those towers look familiar,and that “cloud” seems to have been placed approximately where the planes hit the buildings…what a bloomin’ coincidence, don’t ya think?
    I am sick and tired of so-called elites, academics and other uppity types looking down their noses at those of us that are sensitive to insults and nasty comments about America and telling Americans to “get over yourselves.” What sort of rideculous comment is that? If you all think so little of your country, exercise your American right to leave and go to Russia or Cuba. One day you will look back at all the hate heaped upon America, and wonder…what happened to the best country in the world; not the perfect country, but the best of all choices.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Justin-Lincoln/1369836978 Justin Lincoln

    This is a bit like saying the artists for the dollar bill are insensitive because when you fold the bill a certain way it sort of looks like the WTC on fire. Does it resemble the buildings exploding? If you look at it like that, sure. We are colored by our experiences and will see what we wish (or in this case wish not) to see. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IB2HZ7B62CLPCG752YDQHFZV74 Larry

    Perhaps those 25k+  US Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines might be helping too…. we can’t believe everything we read in the newspaper…

  • Anonymous

    Regardless, it’s ugly. Looks like a bunch of cinder blocks jumbled together. Sorry.

  • Carlos Frazier

    Your memory must be very short if you think we’re the only nation who suffered through war because of what happened on 9/11. It shook the world.

  • Anonymous

    I am still up in the air on this one, it could be a flaunt on 9/11, but shouldn’t the “clouds” be a different levels? Or perhaps this was the only part of the building which this could be done. Personally, I don’t like the structure, regardless if it’s intent. I am betting that it  never gets built in the first place. IF it is about 9/11, is it a tribute or a slam, or just a conception which has nothing to do with what happened here, does anyone really know?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1531001742 Jennifer Nicholson

    Why does everyone have to be so mean to each other all the time?  I think it looks like 9/11 and it’s shocking when you first see it.  I also think it was not intentional.  I can certainly understand people being offended, but I think they apology should put everyone’s mind at ease and they should move forward with the build.  I expressed myself, my own opinion, and wasn’t mean to anyone in the process.  Can’t we please all try to be respectful to everyone?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1372520955 Noel Newby

    When I saw this web site I was immediately drawn to the building and misread the title and thought it said North Korea. But, I read it again and found it said South Korea, and I was shocked. I’d be a bit more understanding if it were North Korea that were building this, but Sourth Korea???! What the heck???!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1093622510 John Cole

    I lived in South Korea for 3 years (July 2007 to July 2010).  My wife also taught school for 3 years (1 year in Seoul and 2 years on base).   IMHO, the South Koreans would in no way do something that pokes fun of the US and 911.  Their’s is an honorable/shame-based society.  Their culture is totally different than ours (what have you done for lately? and I want it like yesterday and Me, Myself, and I culture).  Yes, it looks similar, but I do not think they would do something on purpose to offend the US. I got stopped on the street numerous times by elderly Koreans, thanking the US for our help during the Korean War 60+ years ago. 

  • Anonymous

    It’s not apples and oranges at all. This building is in poor taste. Ignoring the obvious doesn’t make it so. The design is not a coincidence it’s deliberate and offensive.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1327364838 Roger Funk

    they were both terrorist attacks…..You’re trying to to negate my point because we don’t see a building designed to look like blown up buses, but we do see this potential design.  Why don’t you stop and think about what so many of you are doing right now?  What happened to innocent until proven guilty.  Every one of you reacting like this have condemned a man you have never met.  Remember this my friend.  We reap what we sow.  And what I see people sowing right now is mob rule judgement of an architect that you have no evidence against.  Wouldn’t you all feel pretty dumb if he turned out to be a God fearing Christian man with strong pro-USA views? 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1531001742 Jennifer Nicholson

    And by the by, I also think it was pretty classy of them to apologize so sincerely and so profusely for offense that was taken but never intended in the first place.

  • Carlos Frazier

    Stadiums resemble the Colosseum because they serve essentially the same purpose of providing a view of the arena and it’s the most efficient design for serving such a purpose. Also the Roman Colosseum was not entirely unique. It was only the most famous of its kind.
    To erect a structure so strikingly similar to the twin towers after having been struck could hardly be due to chance or convenience.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lisa-Iliff-Slater/100000265720752 Lisa Iliff Slater

    If this thing actually gets built, the United State should pull out every business and every ounce of military support. Close down our bases and let them deal with North Korea on their own.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dawn-Newton/100000082395693 Dawn Newton

    There is no doubt that the images of 9/11 will be forever imprinted in the recesses of our minds. The whole world stopped and watched in horror as our country was ruthlessly attacked. For this reason, in any artist’s creative pursuit, they may have ideas, or images that come up and inspire them. To begin with, the World Trade Center was symbolic, and beautiful not only in architecture, but also in the NY skyline.  I too grieve the losses, the way it forever changed our lives, our travel, our families due to wars. (I am a dependent wife who has been through 2 deployments, and now my husband is a contractor in the war zone–my son is on his 3rd deployment). I find this building very intriguing, and inspirational, and I marvel that intended or not, in South Korea, there will be thousands of people every day who look at this beautiful piece of architecture and Remember 9/11…there are worse things than remembering how vulnerable we as humans really are. Art comes from within, and I am sure these images were burned in their minds as deeply as they were in all our minds. I love that it is designed to LIVE in..not to die in.

  • Anonymous

    honestly this looks exactly like the 9-11 terrorist attacks! i do not see how anyone could miss this similarities. either they should change the design purely out of respect for an ally or we should stop giving them military protection and ban thier billion dollar per year tv sales here in the USA! see how funny they think that is!

  • Anonymous

    It clearly resembles the trade centers during the attack (although I doubt it was on purpose)..you  don’t even have to squint to see that. Who the hell would want to live in it? I would be on constant 747 lookout. I also heard that you can bungee jump from above the “cloud” but you have to wear a business suit.  I’m sure it wasn’t the intent, but you would think at least one of the thousands of people working on and approving the design would have said “hey, that kind of looks like the world trade center in New York during the terrorist attack!”, and then modified the design.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t try to fool yourself, or anyone else,  for one minute that you ‘get it’!  
    Someday,  maybe, you will understand,
    ……..  it’s about my country, my freedoms, my fellow citizens, my legacy, the future safety of our children and grandchildren, the lives ‘given’ through the decades to keep our country safe!!..  The USA must not tolerate any type of ‘leniency’ about past historical ‘pain’ and ‘enemies’ to our county, ever!!   We absolutely can not let anyone ‘mock’ or ‘play nice’, and not pay attention to what they say & do! 
    ….and the creepy world that might be left for future Americans because someone thinks we should be lenient?   We tried to give some people a chance, and look where THAT got us!   One day, when everyone living now is dead and gone, …. we worry what kind of world you will be ‘surviving’!!    

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KFDFQWS435OHHVLCAGVP5O2564 Governmenthawk

    Get over what you fing turd? I don’t pretend to speak for the SK’s but you should clarify your get over ourselves implication

  • Carlos Frazier

    And if anyone builds a structure that appears to celebrate the Madrid train bombings then Spain has every right to be outraged.

  • Anonymous

    No way. They should build it. It wasn’t intended to be offensive.

  • Anonymous

    Not everything is about us personally, or against our country.  It could be seen to resemble the Trade Center and taken as an affront or accept the apology.
      Can’t it also be seen as a tribute, and a way for their country to ‘never forget’.  I prefer to accept the apology at face value and tell them to keep the design and designate it as a tribute.  Have a nice dedication, invite our President (whoever he is when the building is complete) and show us their support.   After all South Korea is an ally with many of it’s people now our citizens.

  • Anonymous

    You know what, as Rush Limbaugh stated so correctly, we have this group of people in America that I refer to as “the offended.”  These people will stop at nothing to be victims and in the process of being victims they drown any creativity and promote extreme political correctness everywhere that they go.  They are leeches on our society and they exist on both sides of the political spectrum.  People, stop putting yourself in that class.  Grow up.  How do we know that this design was not intended as a memorial to it rather than promoting them as something to be proud of?  Why do we always seek to be victims?  Yes the design is clearly after the twin towers, anyone who denies that is idiotic however how do we know what the intent was?  Did Beck ask or did he just jump to conclusions and fly off the handle as is his usual method?  Even if it is intended as a slap in the face, bellyaching and being offended and asking for a mandate against it will not change it.  I highly doubt that this was meant as a slap in the face, if the designers did have a message in mind, I highly suspect that it was to memorialize the day and the people who died in the attacks, not to throw support behind Al Quaeda.  Especially considering that South Korea considers us an ally, I highly doubt this was a slap in the face towards us.  Grow up people, stop being offended by everything at every possible turn.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IB2HZ7B62CLPCG752YDQHFZV74 Larry

    No one should have to apologize for ugly… I don’t. :-)

  • Nadia Johnson

    That is one ugly building! I’m glad they apologized. Sounded sincere….

  • Carlos Frazier

    I don’t need to look in order to be offended by this. And if it was accidental I would be willing to overlook it as long as they change the design but if they knowingly build this after it has pointed out what a resemblance it bears to the twin towers then we have every right to be outraged.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cayce-Weber/1486120075 Cayce Weber

    Looks like a cloud to me.  I like it.  Nothing anyone can do can equal or approach the horror of 9/11.  If anyone ever does mock it intentionally, God bless their souls to someday learn compassion…for we are taught to love our enemies.  If we could all practice that, I suppose the world would be quite a different place.  “Love our enemies, and those we suppose might be our enemies.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Justin-Lincoln/1369836978 Justin Lincoln

    I’m pretty sure that was the look they were going for…skyscrapers that are literally taller than the clouds…it’s a shame that it resembles a tragic day so closely but still…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cayce-Weber/1486120075 Cayce Weber

    One more thing, if you fold the new $20 bill in half, then fold the ends over again, you also have the exact image of the world trade center burning…the $20 bill came out “before” the attack, and if you think there is conspiracy, I’d say check with those running the Federal Reserve, whomever they are…for who knew prior to the attack that the attack was going to happen?  I’d be more concerned that someone who designed our money knew previous to the attack, than some architect in Korea.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1327364838 Roger Funk

    Ok…I need a solution then.  What shall we do about this my fellow Tea party members?  Would you like to set up a United Nations building council that will regulate buildings design in the future to not be offensive to other nations?  All we have right now is an apology from this architect and a very sincere one at that.  My argument here isn’t about the building.  Its about the knee Jerk reaction and hostility towards an architect that for all we know is canceling this building design as we speak after realizing the similarities.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IB2HZ7B62CLPCG752YDQHFZV74 Larry

    You know.. if they came out and said they are going to build this building and dedicate it to the memory of all those in the WORLD who died on 9/11/2001 we would  change our tune….

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_September_11_attacks

  • Anonymous

    It’s the Korean version of the Petro Twin Towers in KL Malaysia. Not nearly as tall, but 
    far more interesting for sure. I agree with you. I prefer to see the cloud and see no offensive connection to the Trade Center. I’ve been in the observation deck in the Petro Towers and at the top of the Trade Center many years ago. Incredible views from both
    projects. This building in Seoul will be the place to live when completed. Amazing architecture….. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/TheAtchMan Mark Alan Atcheson

    It could also be a memorial to the WTC as well but the designers seem to definitely dismiss it and an apology has been written in regards to any offense it may have caused.

  • Anonymous

    What’s the controversy?  It’s so obviously in exceptionally poor taste that it makes a mockery of the thousands of Americans that lost their lives on 9-11. We should pull our troops out of their, and halt all foreign aid.  You’ve got to wonder just what in the hell are they thinking about!?!  What’s next for them?  A building made of skulls memorializing the Communist social engineering of Pol Pott and the Khmer Rouge?    

  • lilolady

    I think it is just great that the terrorists were able to provide the brain dead architects with such a grand idea for providing tenants of their 
    buildings a lovely garden spot and a way to enjoy the sunlight and happiness that their inspiration brought to us.  Perhaps they will be
    provided with another fantastic idea in the future, and  pray God not at their expense.  However, I’ll bet they will find a way to put a happy face on it,  just as they have done with this project.

  • Carlos Frazier

    The difference between this story and your analogy is that the boy accused the man of actually committing the same crime as his abuser. No one’s accused S Korea of committing another 9/11.
    A more accurate analogy would be if someone erected a statue in celebration of his abuser and the victim decried it as offensive and disrespectful.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Todd-Lashley/1500542288 Todd Lashley

    Like Glenn said today… That would be like building a rec center that looked the Auschwitz ovens, and you entered through the oven door.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Cindyl541 Cindy Baker

    Seems fine to me. When I think of the terrible comic strips and other such lasting images American folks put out, this seems pretty tame. Let’s practice the freedom we preach.

  • Anonymous

    Pretty ugly building if you ask me. But for those who think we should “Get over it”, maybe we build a water tank in the middle of a Japanese community that resembles a Mushroom Cloud. This is definitely a slam.

  • http://www.facebook.com/johlwiler Jason Ohlwiler

    As true as their “intentions” were, if we were to build something that looked like a tragedy that happened in another country, even if we didn’t realize or know, everyone would be jumping down our throats calling us insensitive and every other name in the book, but when someone else does something to us, we are supposed to turn the other cheek and “get over ourselves?” Did I lose anyone in the towers? Yes, I lost 3000 fellow American citizens who were a part of this country. In that I consider them family and will get after anyone who wants to build something that mocks them, knowingly or not. This building should not be built. It is offensive and the U.S. should voice their opinion as such, we all know every other country would do the same to us.

  • Anonymous

    Poor comparison. Did they build it in NYC? No. They built it in S. Korea. 911 isn’t on their minds like it is on ours.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPTOSNDUKRE7DMCG2IWCPT3U5U Shmelvin

    What the hell were you people thinking?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1327364838 Roger Funk

    It was a terrible event I remember it most vividly.  I remember fearing for my families lives, and deciding whether or not I could drive 2 hours south to help.  What I don’t remember thinking is that 11 years later my fellow American’s would lambast and crucify an architect for designing a building and not seeing the similarity to 9/11 because they perceive the design differently than they do.  I’m a woodworker by trade.  I’ve designed a box before that ended up looking like a male part.  It wasn’t until I started sanding it that it became apparent and I chose to do away with it.  I guess for you I clearly intended to do that though right?  I’m just a dirt bag perv making dirty boxes right?

  • Anonymous

    Is this a “cool” design?  Maybe, if it didn’t look just like our Trade Center towers as they collapsed.  How could anyone look at the sketches of the finished product for months or more without seeing this?  No architect could.  The ideas about green space yada, yada are so much bologna.  Balconies could have been added to allow for that “green” in such a way that this image is not produced.  This is another case of “I’m sorry and up yours.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Linda-Treml/1430198323 Linda Treml

    No, no, no, no.  Have a heart people, we’ve been more than good to you!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1327364838 Roger Funk

    No Carlos the analogy was spot on.  The boy accusing the man did so based on *feeling*.  Likewise I see a lot of people accusing this architect based on *feeling*.  When the blaze does more research and we find out this was designed to mock 9/11 then I’m right there with ya’ll.  But I won’t join the mob rule rush to judgement you are all so ready to hand out.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KKE6WJ57ZLILGX5JT63QHSNPRM UCANTFIXSTUPID

    Some wacko Korean thinking way outside the box.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1327364838 Roger Funk

    In case you didn’t know South Korea is not a Muslim country.  They actually like us….but I’m sure you’re right!!! It has to be an intentional mockery of 9/11.  No other possibility.  Off with his head. 

  • Anonymous

    Is South Korea prone to earthquakes?  Don’t think I would like to be walking in “The Cloud” when a quake hit!

  • Carlos Frazier

    I haven’t one time said that it was indeed intentional. I’m saying that regardless of their original intentions they should pull their plans for its construction out of respect because it does bear such a striking resemblance to the attack on the twin towers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1405667032 Betsy Moore Young

    Did anyone you know die in the WTC?  I think not.  Get over ourselves.  You make me feel ill.  Maybe you would do better with a small amount of compassion Justin.

  • Anonymous

     It does look like the 9/11 disaster.  “Pixlated” connectors — yeah, right.  It is an architectural political statement and done on purpose.

  • lilolady

    I propose a City park in Lockerbie, Scotland built for children’s
    enjoyment,  where they may go to celebrate with birthday parties and bouncy airplane blowups and play equipment with
    realistic body parts and open luggage with clothing hanging on tree limbs for the little ones to try to break for they will be filled
    with sweets and candies like a pinata.  Wait!  I know lets open
    a franchise! And charge big bucks!  

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1405667032 Betsy Moore Young

    Who the hell is lashing out Funk man??  And what the hell are you talking about??

  • Anonymous

    What difference does it make as to where it’s built. If it’s on this planet, it’s offensive. Or are you saying that South Korea knows nothing about 9-11, and this is just a coincidence? Let them build it, I could really care less. I have never lost anything in Korea so there’s no reason for me to go there. It is however offensive no matter what, and gives us insight on their opinion of our country.

  • lilolady

    No, Roger it is mockery to the Nth degree and you know it!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Swisher/658141822 Michael Swisher

    Roger - Where is the evidence that this was the motive of the design?

    Evidence? 

    Use your eyes. The buildings are positioned the same, have a very similar structure and have “clouds” that don’t actually look like clouds at all. You’d really have a hard time creating any artwork that looks more similar to the twin towers falling. Plus it’s in S.K.

    Motive? 

    Such a silly/naive question I don’t even know where to start.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HN2TV7MJNLAZCYACLTA2A3LZUM Thomas

    I believe you’re a liar.  You never lost anybody.  You never had to “get over yourself already.”  You’re as credible as a Syrian Lesbian blogger.

  • Carlos Frazier

    The point I’m making is that, just like you used wise discretion and did away with the box, the designers of this building should do the same, regardless of their original intentions.

  • http://twitter.com/StoneColdMagic Jeff Stone

    If we’re going to put on hold every project because it might resemble or stir up feelings of a tragedy, we’d have a lot less new things in the world. I’m not going to stop flying a flag in my front yard because my next door neighbor happens to be a descendant of someone who died in the Hiroshima bombing.

    I’m truly sorry that my neighbor thinks I did it on purpose to hurt him, and I’m truly sorry that the American flag reminds him that he lost his grandfather to an attack from the country the flag represents. However, I’m not going to stop flying the flag.

    I’m not doing it to hurt him. Just like the Koreans (as far as we know) are not trying to hurt the victims of 9/11 or their families.

    If we find out otherwise, then I agree that it’s wrong/dirty/evil/whatever you want to call it, but at this point I think we should assume good intent.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1327364838 Roger Funk

    Then we are in agreement Carlos.  As for you Betsy Moore.  hmmmmm   Lashing out…… Lets pull all of our bases and cut ties with South Korea over this…. Over one freaking building.  Lets condemn an entire nation because of one architect.  Oh wait… THAT IS LASHING OUT!

  • John Jones

    My personal opinion is that it wasn’t built to look like anything in particular, but something new and different. I’m sure the designers never wanted to make the new tenants think that it may collapse on them. They wanted to rent it out, not scare the hell out of possible renters.

  • Anonymous

    I thought South Korea was one of the few remaining friendly countries to us.  We are one of the few things standing between them with their thriving economy, and that maniac with the nukes just to the north of them who would love to “unify” the two Koreas. Am I wrong? 

  • Anonymous

    I hardly pay mind to someone that smacks of ignorance but you have given the word new meaning,  funckin make me want to puke! You got funk right!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HN2TV7MJNLAZCYACLTA2A3LZUM Thomas

    Libtards and self-loathers everywhere are rushing in to scream “Get Over It!!!111one” because they truly hate America.

    You will never hear them tell Africans to “Get Over It!!!111one” because it helps them illustrate that America isn’t worth saving.

    You will never hear them tell illegals to “Get Out!!!111one” because it helps them to destroy America and tear it down.

    But here they are telling everyone to “Get Over It!!!111one” because it’s part of their indoctrination to tear down and attack anyone who defends America and who loves America.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HN2TV7MJNLAZCYACLTA2A3LZUM Thomas

    ” I’m not going to stop flying a flag in my front yard because my next door neighbor happens to be a descendant of someone who died in the Hiroshima bombing.”

    You really are stupid.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sharon-Busbee/100001693604021 Sharon Busbee

    The architect should be ashamed! I don’t know or care if this was intentionally meant to resemble the twin towers (although I think it’s obvious that it does), but the thing is just hideous in its own right. I thought South Koreans were pretty smart and aesthetic people. This eyesore can’t be what they want to look at on their skyline in Seoul every day.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HN2TV7MJNLAZCYACLTA2A3LZUM Thomas

    Where’s the evidence it’s not?  You’re obviously too stupid to use your own eyes.  Instead, you’re being used by Cultural Marxist indoctrination.

  • Anonymous

    How stupid are you? I concur with Stamulis.Why not move over to So.Korea or better
    yet further North.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1327364838 Roger Funk

    My eyes aren’t emotionally charged.  I see both the designers intent and the 9/11 similarity.  I’m a builder btw.  I believe from the photo that the right tower is taller.  I also noted that the cloud is at the same height.  the towers collapsed at entirely different locations.  As a matter of fact, scaled down this isn’t even close. 

    Such a silly/naive conclusion…

  • Russell Nyberg

    I think it is pretty cool. Let us remember all the people and lets move on. I think there is more important things to worry about. Good design!

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t have anyone in the world trade tower, so I don’t know how it would feel to see something like this.  However, I don’t think that it was intentional.  If you have ever seen a set of building plans, you know how hard it is to know what it will truly look like.  I’m sure that they don’t go through their drawing asking if something is going to irritate and make problems for them.  It may seem hurtful, but they probably did not mean anything, and we never have to see it anyways.  Besides, they did appologize.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1607363183 Chuck Flurer

    Didn’t see any resemblance? I live in IL. and asked my wifew to take a quick glance at it and tell me what it was. She said the Twin Towers.

  • lilolady

    Don’t ever call yourself a fellow tea party member!  So what is the skin off your nose if someone is judging the qualifications of an architect halfway around the world?  You seem to be taking this very personally, Roger.  Do
    you have money invested in the building?  Did your kid go to school with the guy?  What the Dickens is you problem?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Swisher/658141822 Michael Swisher

    drtsqwrt is exactly correct. 
    Apples to apples because if drtsqwrt’s example were real then people like you, Roger, would say “oh..it’s just a coincidence and I see no similarity” 

  • Anonymous

    Yikes!  I was scrolling down & thought that it was the twin towers exploding.  Tacky.

  • Anonymous

    Everytime something anti-American like this shows up we find excuses for its real intent. It is clear to me ( from pic supplied) that this is mocking out the lose of American life’s on 9-11 at the Twin Towers. How much financial and military aid to we give to South Korea ?

  • Anonymous

    It’s not being built here in America, if you don’t like the appearance of the building don’t go to S. Korea where it will be. Geez enough already!

  • http://twitter.com/machinepolice machinepolice

    the world trade buildings were not brought down by terrorist. look at this:  http://www.jimmarrs.com/news_events/news/does-911-truth-have-a-chance/

  • http://twitter.com/machinepolice machinepolice

    if u believe it then U are a zombie

  • Brad dawson

    oh come on. you really have to be looking for something to be upset about for this building to look like the twin towers on 911. i agree. get over ourselves.how  many iraqis died over the imaginary”weapons of mass destruction” ?horrible things have happened all over the world. the twin towers was just one more horrific atrocity in a long line of atrocities that man has comitted against man.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001849564825 Mickael Ventura

    Did anyone even consider that this design is absolutly ugly?
    Beside that are we going to get all upset at the phone companies for using 911 also for all emergencies? 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nancy-Stapleton/100000237908231 Nancy Stapleton

    I did not lose anyone in the 9/11 attack.  However, I can see this design as a tribute to those who did.  The twin towers are no longer standing,, but this design; intentioned or not, shows me that others did care and the design is beautiful.  I cried on 9/11 when I first saw the images on TV.  This design; will for some,  remind us all of what took place on that day.  To me it would be a beautiful memorial in remembrance of the event.  My neighbor was in NYC on that day, oddly enough getting terrorist attack training.  He stayed for 10 days to help as an EMT/Firefighter.  If we can all look at designs made in tribute to horrible events, and focus on the positive, maybe it will help get those affected through the healing process.  I don’t believe the design was mean spirited,  If this design was in the U.S., I would see it as a cloud between two buildings where the souls of those killed in the attack reside.

  • http://twitter.com/Figanootz Figanootz

    I lived in Korea. The Koreans suffered far greater loses during the
    Japanese occupation and then later during the Korean War. They
    understand human tragedy and it is not in their character to make light
    of any human tragedy. Especially 9/11. We are allies of Korea and they are extremely grateful to the US for fighting for their freedom during the Korean war.
    If they say this is 2 buildings growing through the clouds then I believe them. I know and understand how tragic 9/11 is, but people need to stop seeing 9/11 in everything, stop being so sensitive and see things for what they are.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Swisher/658141822 Michael Swisher

    Roger you are clearly not an architect. Working for a builder doesn’t count. The clouds are at the same level because that was probably the only way it could be done.

    Google south korea twin towers and read any of the 1k plus articles that prove you are the extreme minority opinion.You obviously don’t know the definition of naive. (and repeating what I already said to you isn’t clever)

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1327364838 Roger Funk

    my reason for taking this personally lilo is that I’ve watch my fellow conservatives turn this forum into a huffington post and its embarrassing. 

  • Anonymous

    No one needs to be a brain surgeon to look at this design and not be reminded of 9/11. A “cloud” is certainly NOT the first thought that comes to mind when looking at this picture.
    My heart STILL aches, not just for the families of 9/11, but for our entire country and the wide spread domino effect that has resulted via this horrible EVIL act to our nation..

  • Anonymous

    This is mind-boggling. We are their thin blue line.What an outrage! and what are you people thinking? Of course it is the twin towers blowing up!

  • lilolady

    What?  Are you blind?  So what, you lost someone or did not “personally”  lose anyone on that day!  That was the single 
    most “infamous” attack on our Nation since Pearl Harbor and
    I deeply regret there are so may of you on this post who feel
    no more about it than you would your girl friend’s abortion!  Get
    over It will ya ?  Hey! No Big Deal.  Sounds to me that a bunch of you would get more excited if someone keyed your car ……….  

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1026998067 Debbie Stevens

    If he was a “God fearing Christian man w/ strong pro-USA views” He’d have SEEN that this looks exactly like the moment the Twin Towers were hit! DUH! Anyone can see that.  Plus, hmmmmm I’m thinking this design may not even be possible, look closely, what would support those ‘pixelated clouds’ that extend far far outward? Something’s fishy about this and I think it’s a slap in the face to America.

  • Anonymous

    Do you think it would be ok to get our military to stop artillery practice on old tanks and cars and maybe build little buildings that look like mosques? Would anyone be offended?

  • Anonymous

    Sorry, liked the wrong one. I was agreeing with James Allen below. People who think it’s ok to trivialize 9/11 are offensive

  • Anonymous

    People need to stop wearing their hearts on their sleeves and suck it up emotionally! Common sense should tell everyone that this was an unintentional resemblance. It was simply a creative attempt to make use of available space.

    I worked in law enforcement and was working outside less than 4 blocks from the Murrah building in Oklahoma City when it blew up. I caught 8X11″ papers floating down out of the air from files in the building. I worked at the site during the recovery of survivors & evidence. I have a portion of the marble floor over in a corner. I was watching live TV when the 2nd trade tower was hit and when both towers came down…. and I am not offended by this picture….. why not… because I’ve got common sense! 

  • Anonymous

    The enemy has declared war on the United States I will never
    forget and forgive. My question to Justin Boggs would you forgive Hitler for
    the death of six million Jews?

  • http://twitter.com/IamParrot Parrot

    Koreans like most of the free world forget how, why, and who made sure they would be free.

    Give ‘em all a few more years, maybe a decade and they’ll be begging to take this back.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MBGJTWFYWQ6I4VHTB4U24UKFWE james

    if indeed they are trying to hurt us, all we have to do is pull our troops out and the money they get, see how long before North Korea turns the building into large speakers to indoctrinate
    the new communists

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Charlie-Blackmon/100000517271755 Charlie Blackmon

    Yup , I’ve seen that before . “Cloud ” ‘ my butt !

  • Anonymous

    The enemy has declared war on the United States I will never
    forget and forgive. My question to Justin Boggs would you forgive Hitler for
    the death of six million Jews?

  • OscarK44

    You people are a joke, you can not look at this and not see 911, if it was North Korea then I could see it, but South Korea, when we have thousands of are troops there protecting their borders, spending billions to keep them safe. If the buildings go up, we get out, end of story. It is time we help true friends, and cut the others off.

  • http://twitter.com/lynnetteg Paula

    these peeps are our friends right that’s why we still have our military on the border with the north

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Matt-Guempel/1468797284 Matt Guempel

    how can they claim they didn’t see that???  there is no other image on earth that looks 10% as close to the twin towers after being struck on 9/11.  I agree with Beck on this 100%.  there is less than a .00001% chance that this guy did not base this design mostly on the the image of 9/11.  Completely disrespectful, especially to lie about it.  

  • lilolady

    If you are such a movie fan, Lee, I have to ask you.  Have you seen a
    movie about 9/11?  It seems to me the people who confiscated all the photos of that day are the same Media that thinks any reference to
    showing them to the “Public” would be ” too troubling” for the “masses”.  And so they, “The Media,” withheld until this year all that they have been sitting on.  Hoping we would forget the whole thing!
    Damn right!!! Pearl Harbor was an atrocity and yet no one tried to keep the American People in the dark for fear they just couldn’t handle it.  Or
    to keep our Nation politically correct to the point that no one is allowed 
    even mention the Elephant in the room, ……….  Islamic Terrorists.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe we could have a couple of Islam o-nazi’s to fly planes, loaded with S. Korean’s, into these two buildings killing thousands more S.Korean’s.  And, then tell them, “careful now, don’t over react!”  Absolute liberal crap!

  • Anonymous

    Offensive? Hurt feelings? Personally, I am OUTRAGED!! We saved South Korea’s arce with the blood of our men. There would be NO SOUTH Korea if it weren’t for us. There is NO QUESTION, I repeat, NO QUESTION that any normal person wouldn’t immediately think of 9/11 when viewing this rendition. I saw the picture before reading the article and my first reaction was “What are they thinking?!?!? This is insane!!” I am sure that there are numerous sympathizers with the terrorists who committed the 9/11 atrocity living quite freely in SK as there are in our own beloved America. And the so called “architects” are just one example.
    CHANGE THE DESIGN!

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think this was intentional, though I can see the resemblance. I understand why it would raise such questions, but I also think we can remember 9/11 victims by choosing to direct our attention with more important matters that are intentional slaps in the face.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tracy-Baublitz-Walker/724063429 Tracy Baublitz Walker

    Even if 9/11 didn’t happen… the building looks ridiculous…..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JMFR2DD32467XKFFXLWIEXG2XA Ray

    Hey campbell…..can you read? Or are you playing with yourself Missy?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alex-Miller/1090273594 Alex Miller

    Something will always offend someone. If we give in to everyone that is offended by something, we wouldn’t be able to do anything. Think about it, It offends some people to hunt or even eat meat, should we stop that? It offends people to hang our national flag in your own restraunt, should we stop that? It offends people to drive a V8 gas guzzler, should we stop that too? So where do you draw the line?

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, right!

  • Anonymous

    how about a flag shapped like a mushroom cloud? that would probably offend a Hiroshima survivor.

  • Anonymous

    In virtually all parts of the world, architects are competitively chosen from many different countries for major buildings. Apparently we don’t know the nationality of the architect for these buildings OR where that architect receiver his/her training (It is highly unlikely that a female architect designed ANY major edifice in an oriental country, especially in South Korea and Japan).

    Next of interest would be the people on the committee who selected the designing architect and then who approved the conceptual design. Most likely, a scale model was constructed for this project.

    The point is that any justifiable criticism of this project ought to be directed toward the correct target.

    I have to agree with many who posted on this blog. Having done many projects in South Korea during which I spent many weeks at a time, it is highly unlikely that any South Korean judged worthy enough to participate in the selection and approval process for this building would intentionally slur the US in any way. If the chosen architect happened to be from Saudi Arabia, anything is possible but still highly unlikely. The South Korean government was surely involved somewhere in this project because they get their hands in EVERY project that exceeds a certain amount, not necessarily in the details, but certainly in the financial approval process, especially when major project funds slip over the boarder in the pockets of foreigners.

  • Anonymous

    The horrible image of the Twin Towers being bombed by jets is burned into the minds of everyone who was alive on the planet in September of 2011–without exception !!  This is unkind and disgraceful.Truth and faith, people–trust your instincts.

  • http://www.facebook.com/lou.brown Lou Ellen Brown

    And they owe us WHAT for saving and protecting their butts from North Korea for how many years? What else can they do to mock it, have bodies suspended here and there modelled after “The Falling Man”‘s real body?
    Not their intention…for shame.

  • lilolady

    There we have it everyone!!! They were NOT EXACTLY the right SIZE.   And a builder!  That settles it. Everyone, off to bed. Roger says they were not a match!  Not a prob.

  • Anonymous

    Can’t see the forest for the trees.

  • Anonymous

    I live in NY and I witnessed 9/11 first hand. Heartbreaking. I still cry to this day, my eyes are misting even now as I recall the visions and the sounds, but life goes on.  It is only a similarity not a mockery.   Our sorrow is our sorrow, we cannot expect the world to stop living because of our terrible experience.  We will always have the pain of that time but we need to  move forward.

  • lilolady

    Who the h*** said S. Korea was a Muslim Country?
    Have you been hittin’ the sauce, Rog?

  • http://www.facebook.com/pam.priver Pam Priver

    Sick mother fuckers!

  • Anonymous

    “The United Nations” says it all….

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Decker/100000937680468 David Decker

    I don’t care that they’re building it, but just be honest and say it was intentional. Just look at it. It’s pretty obvious.

  • Anonymous

    Usually I am one to keep my opinions to myself but, frankly, in this instance I feel that I cannot. 

    Firstly, to head off the inevitable accusations, I did not lose anyone on 9/11. However, like many others in this great nation, I still felt a great deal of pain at the fact that our nation was attacked. And the simple fact that I did not lose anyone does not mean that my words or my opinions are any less relevant than someone else’s (that’s how free speech functions).  

    With that said, I believe that they should be allowed to build whatever building they wish, in their own sovereign territory, just as we build the ones we wish here. Honestly, I can see the design of the pixelated cloud, perhaps because I have seen enough pixelated images to realize that is exactly what they look like. And it would be best, again in my opinion, if we do not shove our own morality, our own political correctness, down the throats of other nations and expect them to conform to our ideals, just as it is wrong for them to do the same to us.

  • Anonymous

    As someone who practiced Architecture for 30+ years (although only briefly with even mid-rise towers), I can only say that anyone who claims that they didn’t catch the “resemblance” to the attack on the Twin Towers on 9-11, needs to switch to engineering…where things like symbolism (the very heart and soul of an architect’s criteria and expertise) don’t come into play.   As usual, the only other alternative is an abject cluelessness.  Sorry, MVRDV, but the only people who would buy your apology, are those who would have been rooting for it to be built as designed.  Unfortunately for you, however, the rest of the sentient adult population – okay, we should obviously include anyone over the age of, say, six? – can’t possibly avoid making the automatic connection…but nice try!  Guess it depends on “what the meaning of is is….”
    Tom Ballantyne – Author of Uncommon Sense…Apparently! and Oh Really, O’Reilly!
    http://www.UncommonSenseNow.com

  • Anonymous

    This disgusting!  junelewis

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PICEZYEJCDBIA24G7XKJIW2DQY lindas

    You would have to be stupid to not see the resemblance.  It’s the intention that should be important.  I didn’t lose anyone that day, but only because my husband flew out on 9/10.  It was very scary.
     Maybe we should be grateful. It will remind everyone of what evil is capable of doing to innocent people.  It seems some people over here have forgotten that part of 9/11.

  • Anonymous

    This is disgusting!  junelewis

  • lilolady

    Golly Gee, Mary Jane Thoughtful1, that is very nice of you.  You are a vey nice person. 

  • Anonymous

    It looks like pixilated cloud to me. Some peole see things in clouds. I dont think it resmbles the trade centers at all. Looks like a neat building. There are twin tower buildings all over the world. 911 was terrible, should we now ban all twin towers?

  • prugio

    Having lived in South Korea for the last 6 years…I can truly say they had no mal intent. South Korea is very much like the rest of the world. The majority of the populace…I mean high 90 percentile have no idea what 9/11 means to most folks in the US. And when you ask those that do know about it….most could care less or have no feelings about it at all.

  • Anonymous

    We must remember that they could have killed almost 50,000 people if they had attacked later in the day and hit the towers lower to avoid more people escaping. They are willing to kill every man, woman and child. Let the North Koreans invade and see if they treat them any better than we have.

  • Anonymous

    Oh here we go again! It’s Bushe’s fault!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/jerrold.a.powers Jerrold A Powers

    Anyway you look at it, these are extremely ugly buildings – I wouldn’t live there if you gave it to me for free.  

  • Anonymous

    Justin, you are an idiot, insensitive idiot I might add. NEVER FORGET, but a constant reminder like that, South Korea, you are on your own.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ed-Pfaff/100001312271702 Ed Pfaff

    A LITTLE TOO OVER SENSITIVE, Bit? Glenn?
    That building is a LOVELY Architectural Marvel.
    With the Physics that is Flies in the Face of.
    I guess that is what is probably Really your Problem, that is Flies in the Face of Science or God’s creation of Physics?
    Find something MEANINGFUL to Bitch About Cause this is NOTHING.
    What, OBummer Not done anything Stupid or Anti-Constitutional today?
    I am a Libertarian, but this Bitchin from you is a LIBERAL attitude.

  • http://twitter.com/IamParrot Parrot

    Not a cool design, I’d be willing to bet Saudi Arabia or some other muslim country is behind the financing of this building’s design and construction as a direct slap in the face to USA. 

    I currently see no reason at all why the US armed forces should any longer sacrifice themselves for anything but the security of the US borders.

    Bring the troops home, kick out all the illegals, and think of ourselves first. FTW

  • Anonymous

    Having lived there for 6 years does not give you the ability to defend their innocense. This is clearly a slam against the US and there is often strong anti-American sentiment there shown by their protests against our millitary being there. By the way, if most could care less about what happened to us on 9/11 then that says a mouth full.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, people, just relax. Nothing to see here. Sorry, but those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.

  • lilolady

    Me neither.( sarcasm)  Our military has been on their soil for 50 years, protecting them from the North.  German’s hate us, too. Japan as well.   Where would any of them be if they had to field their own defense?  I’ll tell you, broke!  

  • Anonymous

    No, I don’t know their names but that’s irrelevent.  I haven’t seen a single “design” that resembles a train exploding…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tim-Smith/1306314982 Tim Smith

    Has anyone noticed the red artwork in the foreground at the right?  It possesses a more than passing resemblance to Calder’s “Flamingo” in Chicago.  First these dog-eating swine make fun of 9/11, now this!  It is an outrage of biblical proportion.  Glenn we need to boycott Korea.  And not just Korea but Asians generally, and that includes those troublesome sub-continental Injuns too!!

  • lilolady

    I have a funny feeling it was the winning design in a high school drafting class.  It is that amature a design.

  • http://twitter.com/IamParrot Parrot

    Architectural marvel?  Wow, cantilever.. never thought of that before!
    Balanced structure and weight.. what a concept!!!
    connecting 2 poles together mid-way to support a unified structure.. neat new idea!

  • Anonymous

    Koreans had many at “Ground Zero”, I can assure you they are not trying to be offensive by building this building. They are our best hope in the Far East.
    You need to look at their history to see a country that has truely suffered and
    sacrificed more than most.

  • lilolady

    Bogus.  Marxist shape changer alert!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XHD6TZXZQEDKFHZDYSZZWPHRUI Rocketman_203

    Let them build those hideous buildings then we show them what they really look like blown up and on fire…stupid gook slope-heads.

  • Anonymous

    To me it really does look like the twin towers on 9/11. They have the freedom to build what they want, but I have the freedom to say that it is offensive. Why would someone design such a building to make fun of thousands of people who died? In my opinion, it’s disgusting and wrong.

  • Anonymous

    You have got to be joking. Who would want to live in a structure like this? Looks like there is plenty of light coming in through the huge windows except to those below the “cloud”. Does Korea get earthquakes? The cloud mush looks like it could drop right off; its so much like my neighbor’s back deck that did during a party. Bummer. Do the tenants get a free 1m life insurance policy with their lease? Where is the luxury here? Is this a new design form called disaster look alike?  I know Korean architects are more creative than that. If more light is needed they should look at Hong Kong designs. 

  • prugio

    You said a mouthful….come down off your box. I merely made an observation which you can not because you are not here. I am neither defending nor attacking. Living here gives me something you do not have….a broad perspective of others opinions.

  • Dana Rainey

    I’d hate to see what you’re wife looks like

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000675155184 Sally Hendricks

    I think this was on purpose and it smells like death.  Creepy.  This is MY opinion and I don’t need you to tell me how wrong I am, ok?  You have your opinion and I have mine.

  • Anonymous

    What the terrorist meant for evil the Koreans have turned to living space. A cloud of destruction vs. a cloud of life and light. I think it could be a very positive thing.

  • Anonymous

    The minds outside our country don’t always think like our self-centered ones !! 

    What is done in other countries is beyond our control – NO  matter what you have been accustomed to !

  • Anonymous

    to Jeff Stone – This is not like flying your American flag (in America) next door to the guy who is a descendant of someone who was bombed in Hiroshima.  This is like you building a building (in America) that’s in the shape of a huge atomic bomb mushroom CLOUD with lots of windows and green spaces for inhabitants and thinking that the whole world might like that, too! 
     

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_774KMOMGWYQIKZUDQKIZY2HAEI TJ

    wow…  that is….  wow…  really blatant…  anybody that is not appalled by that design …question are you an american…  ??  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_774KMOMGWYQIKZUDQKIZY2HAEI TJ

    you obviously are not an true american…  

  • lilolady

    Thomas, RF is not being used.  He IS the USER!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Becky-Holmberg/1134074161 Becky Holmberg

    Truely tasteless

  • http://twitter.com/virgillloyd Virgil J. Lloyd Jr.

    Look at the bright side…. IT’S NOT A MOSQUE.!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Becky-Holmberg/1134074161 Becky Holmberg

    No, but I don’t think I would build a building resembling the carnage.

  • Linda Heagy

    I’m going to go out on a limb here, and say that several people I know who have seen this think it is VERY COOL, AND think of it as a memorial rather than an insult. I agree with the posts saying to get over it already. Yes that was a horrific day. But you know what? There are thousands of innocent Americans murdered every year. What about those people? You know, the innocent family killed by a drunk driver? The innocents at Fort Hood? We need to grow a set and stop being offended all the time. Seriously.  Merry Christmas, and Peace on Earth to all. :-) 

  • Sarah Lara

    I bet the Spaniards didn’t remember a single name from 9/11 either. 

  • Anonymous

    Let them build it and as the buildings go up start closing our military bases since we are broke and we need to cut useless spending and since we need to bring in new revenue lets raise the tariffs on all goods imported from Korea. if the goods we import from Korea are a vital part of our American consumption than maybe we can open up new manufacturing in right to work Sates and put thousands of Americans back to work.
    This would be a big plus for our economy by cutting spending to countries that have no respect for this country while putting Americans back to work.
    but 1st we need to get rid of the B.O. that is running this country.

    This is America, political correctness does not work. if you don’t like what this country was founded on than leave and take many others with you.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with Glenn , If they build this we should not only pull all our troops out but all embassy and state personell and end ALL trade with them , as for getting over our selves I think Barack Obamass has done that quite well for all of us .

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LR3I4X656U47FEK4XYRP6VHJ5U Marie

    OMG, I saw this image earlier today but I thought it was of the actual WTC.  The picture was small, so I didn’t really pay attention to it until I saw it on GB.

  • http://twitter.com/NavWorksPress DE Navarro

    Wow, I see it as totally the opposite message, even if unintentional.  We should NEVER forget what they did and this will be an ever present reminder of it.  Seeing this reminds me of the treacherous world we live in and the work we still have to do to stand against terrorism and make something like this never happen again.  We are always talking about showing our children the pictures of 9/11 so they know what happened.  This is an ever-present reminder of the treachery of terrorism and should inspire us all to stand tall and strong against it.

    Yes, get over yourselves you overly-sensitive, ultra politically correct, common-sensically challenged people.  This is life.

  • Kathy Cumberland

    Of course it is designed like the WTC on 9/11.  To say anything different is absurd.  When I asked my 12 yr. old son to look at the picture the first thing he said was Twin Towers – 9/11.  How quickly we forget.

  • Anonymous

    Whatever this abortion is, and whomever designed it, must have been spaced out on LSD. Maybe they are trying to win the most Ugly building in the World contest.  They would surely come out on top.  

  • Anonymous

    right on . They said “remember Pearl Harbour” Never forget what was done and also remember it was a sneak attack so always be on the watch and ready. Seems some forgot. Did not even question why some took flying lessons but didn’t want to know how to take off or land. What legitimate pilot does that ? Of that 3000 men, women and children and babies think how many more thousands were effected by the loss of their loved one’s. It may not bother that guy but maybe the next attack will  if he loses someone close to him. (and there will be more as they are living all over the country just biding their time)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jean-Kaderabek-Oliver/100001079495715 Jean Kaderabek Oliver

    When 98% of the people that look at this design, say it resembles the twin towers on 9/11, the design is not a coincicdence….it is a mockery and those of you supporting it are being laughed at….where is your American pride??? 

  • Anonymous

    didn’t we save their ass, are they “somewhat free” because we sent our men to fight for them. If you think this building was not designed as a slap in our face you must be blind. I for one am tired of America being the butt of all jokes, the target of all insults. WE ARE what is right in the world. In no other place are people allowed to be free and speak their minds. We have tried to share these blessings in other places around this world but as you can see from that design that we are taken for granted. I bet a us bank, with federal tax dollars is gonna fund the damm project. Wake up people or you will be telling your grandchildren how it use to be. 

  • spike4255

    Stuck on STUPID. Be careful where you set your goals Justin, you just might reach them!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/stephen.kramp Stephen Kramp

    It is certainly not clear if the architect wants to honor us or dishonor the US with this design. But for anyone to say or imply that this is not meant to be reminiscent of 9-11 has to be either a person with intellectual disabilities or so blinded by politics that he might as well be. If it is meant to honor the US or the victims, then it should be clearly stated. To honor innocent victims is always honorable, to do otherwise is unacceptable. 

  • Ray Johnson

    It’s definitely done on purpose.. think about it, why in the middle of the building? Why not near the first second floor or way lower.. why not do that design at the top? It’s clearly down in the middle to resemble the 911 attacks..cmon people

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HC47GCSKV3E6H3AGLLEDZMFPF4 kawn

    Boy I think it is a slap in our face……… J Boggs your a moron……………………..

  • Anonymous

    I thought the “Gerkin” in London was ugly.   Looks pretty good now.

  • lilolady

    Have to agree with you,snow. I made the mistake of getting involved with idiots.  More
    discerning in the future.  Quite a few trolls playing games here today.

  • Anonymous

    I guess everyone here who assumes evil intent does not believe in the American concept of innocent until proven guilty, but rather believes that assumption rules. I find that a little disturbing. Judge not lest you be judged also comes to mind. It is too much to ask to have patience and believe in goodness until at such point evil intent is proven? Be skeptical, sure; ask questions, sure; jump to conclusions based on first impressions and assumptions, bad idea!  If (and that’s a big IF) and when evil intent is proven, then unleash your anger and condemnation.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YGCDROG7ASUIXR6QOTSFXKZWPE Lorie

    I’m with Glenn. It’s obvious and totally offensive. If they build it, we should pull out. Let them fend for themselves with their northern neighbors!

  • http://twitter.com/CrackerJack2025 Cracker Jack

    Since initially reportin this story, The Blaze has learned that an apology has been issued:

    Since the posting of this story, MVRDV has issued a
    statement of apology (be sure to click “read” on the site to see the
    statement) over the design. The design company writes “MVRDV regrets
    deeply any connotations The Cloud projects evokes regarding 9/11. The
    Cloud was designed based on parameters such as sunlight, outside spaces,
    living quality for inhabitants and the city. It is one of many projects
    in which MVRDV experiments with a raised city level to reinvent the
    often solitary typology of the skyscraper. It was not our intention to
    create an image resembling the attacks nor did we see the resemblance
    during the design process. We sincerely apologize to anyone whose
    feelings we have hurt, it was not our intention.”

  • Danny Woodring

    But the building is insensitive. No way around it. 

  • http://twitter.com/CrackerJack2025 Cracker Jack

    I am currently also observing a discussion about a design which has a 3-D type ‘shadow’ to a circular element. The concern is that it is an evil ‘crescent’, even though it is wavy and blends into the circle, and is not green.  People will see what they want to see, and be offended at any opportunity. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1310301855 Mark Spencer

    WHAT, WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS SOUTH KOREA?

  • Anonymous

    Are you a completely stupid? Why would the design have an extrusion in the center like that? What reason? Are you completely blind to the slap in the face this is because you too worried about hurting the feelings of the architect that designed this? It’s obvious that you’ve never served our country before nor had anyone close to you die in the 9/11 attacks.

  • Anonymous

    Insensitive? Who cares. They didn’t do it to offend.

  • Anonymous

    And maybe your the most un-American American I’ve ever met. Did you even look at the design or are you completely blind to it? Just take a quick glance and think about what you just saw. You do know how to think right?

  • Danny Woodring

    But the building is insensitive. No way around it.

  • Anonymous

    Your story is based on the molested child’s assumption. Nice try but your story doesn’t relate in any way to this article. This isn’t an assumption at all, it is a well planned out design of the structure that took a good amount of time to create.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah. How dare they do anything without thinking about American feelings first….Give me a break man. As horrible as it was for us, the world doesn’t revolve around American  feelings for 911.

  • http://twitter.com/CrackerJack2025 Cracker Jack

    Also, think about it: does it make any sense to an owner of a building to create one where thousands of people died? Who would want to live or work in it — regardless of their thoughts about America?  It’s occupancy suicide; who wants to live in such a negative ‘statement’?  I’m disappointed with the Blaze on this, as it smacks of fear mongering. If we have real evidence that these designers or the owner of the building are giggling over ‘giving it to the Americans’ — let’s see it; otherwise this is grasping at straws.

  • Anonymous

    Ok. It wasn’t insensitive to me. I don’t see it as an insult. And the people who designed it said it was never intended to be that way. I think I’ll take them at their word. Why would South Korea offend us on purpose? It makes no sense.

  • http://www.facebook.com/donna.feather1 Donna Feather

    I don’t think the designers could see the forest for the trees.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LM7PGJUOLSMC2H3HOT4F4X7HJI Medioc

    I do believe the building is insensitive.

    Mostly because it doesn’t have brain cells to process touch.

    But no, to be serious, I do think it is a bit offensive. More than a bit, to be honest, but it could actually be their mistake. I don’t think South Korea sits there, plotting how to insult the US. It’s not like China particularly likes the capitalism-enjoying South Koreans (not to mention nationalistic rivalry/bordering on hatred).

    What likely happened here? South Korean guy was playing with a building design with legoes or a story or book or something, then realized an idea of how to make it work, put it together and forgot to think it through. Shouldn’t we at least try to believe innocence first? Do we even know who it is in particular that designed it? We should at least know a little more.

    Who knows, maybe part of it is a memorial. It’s not impossible.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jean-Geisel-Rabe/1635325160 Jean Geisel Rabe

    Is this Florida Cracker Jack???  If so, good thoughts.  From Vermont Jean

  • Anonymous

    Hmmm, how much money do we give to South Korea to protect them from the North? If we say it’s offensive, it’s offensive! It looks exactly like 9/11!

  • Anonymous

    All of you have to be kidding!  You don’t accidentally design a building that looks like the 9/11 attack.  This design has to be purposeful.  I don’t understand the purpose but this is no accident.  It’s truly disgusting.  PS Unless your flag looks like a mushroom cloud you can fly it.

  • Anonymous

    You are part of the problem, God love ya!

  • Anonymous

    That’s an asshole statement. Why would our money dictate anything like that? I don’t want to be a part of a country that controls artistic expression and artistic freedom in another country. They said it was not intended to represent 911. I’ll take their word for it. Why wouldn’t we?

  • Anonymous

    His comment is as disgusting as the design.  How do you think the families that lost someone on 9/11 feel Mr. Boggs?  Would you be willing to tell each of them this to their face?  Maybe after its built you might consider appyling for occupancy in one the Apartments for Rent or lease!

  • Anonymous

    To all the folks on here who are saying “pull the troops, stop the trade, etc.” over this building: Take a minute to listen to yourselves. The American people have become so brainwashed by the “victimhood” mentality that they go out of their way to find things to be offended by.
    If the architect stated from the beginning that this building was a tribute to 9/11, would anyone be having a cow?
    Does it look like the Twin Towers? Yes. Is it insensitive? Possibly. Do you have the right to be upset? Since this is America (at least for a little longer) yeah you do.
    Does America have the right to threaten an ally with sanctions over a possibly insensitive piece of architecture? Answer that to your own satisfaction.
    I’m more concerned that we just BARELY halted the dedication of a MOSQUE at ground zero on the Tenth anniversary of the bombing. How many of you wrote letters, sent emails, and went in person to protest that? I did, and I thank God we got the 11th hour reprieve. You want to talk about a slap in the face, that was major in-your-face action.
    We also just barely averted a massive protest march in D.C. this past summer to support the imposition of Sharia law here in the U.S. that was going to be led by a radical Muslim cleric from Britain. The sorry excuse of an administration we have in Washington was all set to let it happen, until the counterprotests began to be planned, then they backed down and decided to rescind the visa for the cleric.
    What I’m saying is we have a pile of things in house to be watching for, it’s just a distraction to get up in arms over this building, which in my “glass half full” way am going to consider a tribute  to 9/11. Although realistically it’s none of my business either way because S. Korea is not the 58th state.
    For the attack dogs: Did I lose anyone on 9/11? Other than my 3000 countrymen, No. My brother-in-law was on company business out of state, or he would have been there. He lost 14 of his coworkers. I live in PA, where the heroes brought the plane down before it could do any other damage. Friends who work at the Pentagon escaped because they were not in the affected zone.
    I am a proud American, a military vet, and a conservative. I will not say “get over it”, but I will say some folks here are overreacting. America’s spirit is about personal freedom and personal responsibility, for you to start saying “screw ‘em if they don’t do it OUR way” is an affront to those principles.
    Remember the Alamo, Remember Bunker Hill, Remember the Maine, Remember Pearl Harbor, Remember 9/11; but forget about some silly building in another country.

  • Anonymous

    You are an idiot!

  • Anonymous

    Their are so many ways to express 9/11 in a more positive light.  Perhaps this form of expression should not be a copy of the negative.  We should not create a monument to destruction that may give others an enduring thought to do the same. 

    The terrace idea might be better used to create metropolitan gardens in high density housing zones.  Perhaps the money for this could be used to create a better energy efficient systems that allows the tenants to have low cost utilities??!! 

    The engineering that went into this concept is remarkable, I would hope a more positive aspect could be used.  

  • qtwoot

    I understand how those personally affected with loss during the 9/11 attacks will always be sensitive. It doesn’t take much to bring the emotions of that day right back to the surface, especially when so many people will live that day every single day of the rest of their lives.  

    I can’t imagine, however, that the South Koreans would see fit to intentionally disrespect what happened here that fateful day.

    Now if it was North Korea I wouldn’t be so sure.

    Plus, it could just be a bogus photoshopped photo with a “story” attached to it.  Seems a lot of that is going around these days, no?

  • Anonymous

    Its really easy to imitate the Twin Towers. All they were were two featureless towers, which is EXTREMELY common for skyscrapers. Connections between adjacent skyscrapers is also common. Look at Petronas Towers. Adding embellishment to a core feature of a building is something architects do.

    Is there resemblance to 9/11? Yes. Should we abandon them over something could have been accidental? No, and if we do they will fall to North Korea, Communism, and a dictator in a matter of months.

    I understand people who are angry about it,  but a building design concept is not something to be up in arms about as much as everyone is here.

  • Anonymous

    I think “ugly” would be a better word.  I certainly wouldn’t want to live in it.

  • DeeDee1213

    It’s just poor taste…that’s what it is.

  • http://www.facebook.com/lynnette.hardy Lynnette M. Hardy

    I think our military should use the Cube and the Smart Car for target practice.

  • http://www.facebook.com/lynda.j.holbrook Lynda Jo Holbrook

    WOW you can really feel the love in here!! Shame on all of you. I suggest we should ask. yeah I know it sounds so to the point and not really a good way to stir up insanity, but hey, thats just me. how long were these plans in the making? Did you notice how they are joined? What if it is a tribute of the suffering?? What if it was subconscious? ass u me… bad mojo people.

  • Anonymous

    Not sure I agree with Beck on this one.

  • Brad Casselman

    The reason that people are not ready to find inner peace over 9/11 is because the killing isn’t done.  We have slaughtered somewhere between 800,000 and 1.5 million people over it, but we need the hurt and hate to continue so that we can exploit this “war on terror” long enough to meet our nation’s empire building and liberty destroying agenda.

  • http://www.facebook.com/donna.feather1 Donna Feather

    No, but we haven’t built a building resembling a train with smoke pouring out of it either.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lori-A-Peterman/100001435663974 Lori A Peterman

      I agree, why are we sooo sensitive? I have an idea (after all nothing goes forward) if we’re soo pc. Lets rename meteor crater in Arizona…. Hiroshima! What a GREAT idea. After all, they need to get over it.

  • Anonymous

    Laura. I think we all lost some one at the WTC collapse/bombings. I didn’t know anyone personally, but I still have hole in my heart for all who were lost that day, and for the people who were personally involved. 

    It was a horrible, and numbing experience to just watch. 

  • Anonymous

    Ok people.  I’ve gone through many posts on this article and now its time for a reality check.
    Its nice to see how easily many have been offended.  After-all, we have had a few decades now of proper indoctrination and we should all be proud that feel-good policies and political correctness has turned out to be such a smashing success.

    In honor of this, and taking a cue from our current administration whose members have so well educated us to be hyper-sensitive sheeple who worry about things that are in reality irrelevant.  Similar to the recent declaration that gay rights are now a diplomatic tool to be used by this so-tolerant country, I propose that twin tower looking constructions now be declared used for diplomatic favoritism, punishments and policies by our wise gov’t. Being the Center of the Universe, we should naturally expect All to think and do just as we do, period…or ELSE!

    9/11 was an American tragedy…not a Korean, Chinese, Saudi Arabian, Argentinian or a Martian one.  We were attacked by a specific and identifiable group, and we better stop seeing offense in everything everyone outside this country does, thinks, or says.  Our Gov’t is doing enough bowing and submission to outsiders to more than compensate for our being offended.  We can and will take care of ourselves and that is where we better concentrate our offended feelings, right here at Home.

    So, here’s a few things that “offend” me:

    1. Its 2011, ten years after that fateful day. What has been done at Ground Zero? I’m offended that there weren’t two new towers twice as big and twice as bold sticking up out of that site within 3 years of 9/11.  And just to make a point, there should have been a big marquee at the very top in bright green letters saying “Up Yours!”. If you don’t get the green letter part, go get educated.

    2. I’m offended that we have to go through at airport checkpoints that the Gestapo, Stasi, KGB, SSD or Red Guards would be ashamed of, just to take a stinking plane ride. You can’t even go to a fracking ballgame anymore without  security checks that once only existed in the Soviet Union.

    3. I’m offended that DHS and other Gov’t goon squads are being given powers to investigate US citizens who prepare for emergencies when FEMA tells everyone to prepare. Use the US Military?  We’re not in Kansas anymore…. They are making their lists, children, and there ARE boogeymen behind every blade of grass.

    4. I’m offended that TSB has been setting up domestic checkpoints on routes near certain borders to protect us, but the gov’t refuses to stop what they are protecting us from BEFORE it gets across certain borders.

    5. I’m offended that a bill was just passed that can, and will, I assure you, put Posse Comitatus in the trash bin with that other forgotten document, once known as the Constitution.

    6. I’m offended that since 9/11 we have made such great progress towards tyranny by gov’t.  Of course, since its for our own safety from “Terrorists”, there obviously is no relevant reason to be offended anyway, right? The definition of “terrorist” sure is expanding, isn’t it?

    7. I’m offended that for all practical purposes, the 9/11 jihadists achieved far more of a victory than they ever imagined.  If you can’t recognize what it is yet, then you are part of their victory.

    I could go on, but what’s the point?  Choose what offends you wisely people, because choices as simple as what offends you do have consequences.  And being offended by a stupid building 8000 miles away that has absolutely nothing to do with 9/11, is a prime example of mis-targeting your resources. Wake up and look around you.

  • Anonymous

    http://www.architizer.com/en_us/firms/view/mvrdv/109/. They knew just what they were designing. Very unusual designs all over the world!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Allen-Turner/1113077945 John Allen Turner

    Heres my two cents.  I doubt very seriously anyone in South Korea is trying to belittle us wit this architectural design.  Reason being South Koreans have no reason to hate us and a lot of reason to like us.  There is no motive.
    Second if they really wanted to make it resemble 9/11 they could have done a much better job.
    Also for those saying that people who didn’t specifically lose someone were unaffected by 9/11 that is an ignorant statement.  9/11 affected all Americans.  We all got something different from that experience but it did change the world for all of us.  Just because we don’t think there is negative intent on SK’s part doesn’t mean that we don’t care about the thousands killed on 9/11, it just means that learn our own lessons from our tragedies and we don’t shove it down other peoples throats.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WABEQ5QBWKLW4XY6F45GPOF3UQ Billy

    WOW you are a total M O R O N

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=607239319 Anonymous

    I think it is WAY cool!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=607239319 Anonymous

    But if it were being built in an Islamic country, I would feel differently. I would know it was intentional.

  • Anonymous

    I feel that the design of the building is repulsive! All I can say is shame on them.  It would be a different story if someone was attempting to build it on US soil. However, I agree with you completely! We allow ourselves to be so distracted that we miss the very crucial happenings that are taking place right under our noses! I call it the ‘yellow mail box theory’…as thousands of giant, yellow mailboxes now stand at every other laundry mat and party store and yet no one questions them. They advertise Planet Aid, Place clothing and shoes in box. Research Planet Aid…yikes!  The yellow mail boxes are not the issue, however, the issue is that we don’t even pay attention to things going on around us! Some of us are left wondering, “how can this happen!”

    Right now one, of many, of our concerns should be the new Bill that is currently in review:   HR1540 National Defense Authorization Act.  :(

    Have they yet hired a czar to investigate the amount of money being wasted on all of the czars who have been hired, by our government, within the past 3 years? Think we have found one place that you can cut government spending. :) 

    Yes, the list goes on…….. 

    JMR32….You are an excellent writer! More importantly, I love that you ‘stand’ for something! Thank you for a post that I could continually nod my head in agreement to, throughout!

  • c j

    Make up your mind about the design based on your own research… actually look at some images before you shrug and tell people to just “get over it”.  I believe it IS a celebration of 9/11, but has little to DO with the actual WTC bombings.  It IS a blatant statement of anti-Americanism because after GW we now have a pathetically weak president especially in contrast to the cowboy.  The apology was issued because the Blaze couldn’t cite specific examples that this was their intention, and the paper insinuated as much.  BUT LOOK AT THE PICTURE!  it is not a cool design, and you’re giving too much credibility to their statement of “huh.  gosh guys we never thought of it like that!”
    the developers gained some street cred in today’s strong anti-american world (anti american in america as well as out) and further their credibility when people like you, Justin, accept that weak explanation.  SERIOUSLY!!  how in the world is the pixelated middle of the buildings anything other than a celebration of wtc going down?  i am nothing less than shocked that anyone would see anything other than a thumb on the nose towards america.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1070330042 Marilyn Mulligan

    This is ROTTEN!  I can’t believe it!!!  I might expect something like this from North Korea, but not South Korea!!  Any “engineer” who didn’t see the resemblance is either totally blind or a liar!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1070330042 Marilyn Mulligan

    This is beyond disgraceful!  I can’t believe this of South Korea!  Any engineer who didn’t see the resemblance was either blind or a liar!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YIVJQPWHORIN67VP6ECQMO4AA4 D.P.

    You’re an idiot. “Get over ourselves?” You’re part of the problem.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1809031767 Louise Bruton Hodges

    I DID NOT KNOW WHAT OR WHERE THIS WAS BUT MY FIRST THOUGH WAS OH THIS IS THE TWINE TOWER ON 9/11 my cousin lost his mother in Law in this attack and it hurts me for all the people and their family that lose or know people who was lost in this attack  I think it should not be built anywhere in the world  

  • irie ite

    Anyone who cannot see ANY resemblance at all and believe that MVRDV’s comments are true and sincere, needs to wake up. Why the twin tower design in the first place on top of this marvelous “Cloud design”??? Sheeesh. I’m certainly not suggesting that they’re
    our enemies, but why can’t they be a little more tactful to their allies??

  • Anonymous

    Yea Justin…you should get over yourself…
    everyone wants America to be like every other country…yet when Americans act like every other country men react with patriotism and a little bit of sense of American Spirit then is wrong…so other countries can get pissed at the U.S. but the U.S. cannot get pissed at anyone?
    yeah….lets all get over ourselves..right? What a duffus!

  • Anonymous

    Wow!  If you believe that apology, accept my offer for the beachfront property for sale at the 15,000 high mark in the middle of the Rocky Mountains.  They didn’t “see the resemblence?”  Kiss my patootie they didn’t.  As for sunlight getting to the lower part of “cloud,” what a laugh–the only sunlight they will get is from the windows that are exposed in the outer walls. There is nothing aesthetic about this “architectural” plan…it is one huge insult to the American people and any other Nation that suffered a tragic loss on Sept 11.  Oh well, what can one say about a Nation that does not value human life?

  • Anonymous

    Glad you like it so well, Justin; planning to rent one of the apartments located in the cloud?  Have at it.  My family and I have too much respect for those who were murdered in NYC, W, DC, and the farmer’s field in PA to praise the Koreans for this affrontery.  Get over ourselves?  Kind of hard to do when the terrorists are allowed to run free in this country because we have an administration that promotes their existence.

  • Anonymous

    How is life in Lalaland?
    say hi to Tinkerbell and Peter Pan when you see them will ya?
    Thank you.

  • Anonymous

    Gotta say it’s a rather interesting design. Maybe if they added a third tower?

  • Anonymous

    I wouldnt call it offensive …but absolutely TASTELESS!

  • Chris Goulet

    The resemblance is striking, but let’s all stop pointing fingers at each other and vote with our wallets.  Believe they did it intentionally?  Okay, don’t buy anything from Korea again.  Believe they didn’t?  Enjoy your Samsung TV.  Remember, the joy of the folks at the upper echelons is to watch us all argue about things, distracting us from what’s going on behind the curtain.

    It’s quite possible that they are just clueless enough to not have noticed, and also callous enough not to care if they did.  After all, this is a development for rich people…and how many nice, considerate rich people do you know?

    …exactly…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Ruyle/100001085161358 Joe Ruyle

    I doubt that the design is intended to mock America or insult us in any
    way. South Korea has been one of our most faithful allies for decades.
    The left has done such a great job of dividing us and making us all feel
    that we should be offended by everything that we’ve become a nation of
    whiners. It is what it is! The choice to be offended is yours to make as
    is the choice to look at it and move on with your life. Thank God and
    the military for your right to choose.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for the kind words, IWLW8.
    You are spot on in your points regarding Planet Aid and the fact that the NDAA bill is one of the most insidious, constitution-busting bills ever.
    The fact that the Senate voted 93-7 in favor of a bill that could effectively take away what 200 plus years of blood, sweat, and tears have brought this country should scare the heck out of us.
    We’re supposed to trust the benevolence of our government that “no innocent Americans have anything to worry about in this bill?”
    Of course, being interred in a concentration camp probably means we’ll get three meals a day, and free cable TV, so maybe it’s not such a bad idea after all!
    And although there is some coverage on the media about it, it just doesn’t seem as if people are all up in arms about it.
    As the folks here are fond of saying: “Wake up America!” If this bill passes it’s an easy step for a President to declare any group a “clear and present danger” and authorize deadly force.
    Can’t happen here? I refer you to William J. Clinton, Janet Reno, and Waco, Texas. ‘Nuff said.

  • http://www.facebook.com/phillip.m.collins Phillip Michael Collins

    I don’t think so Glen. Take a look at any number of buildings an you can you can pick out any number of characteristics and easily compare the similarities.

  • Soulphoenix

    They did not see the resemblance during the design process?  How is that believable?  It takes a nano-second for the average person to see the stark resemblance, and these people are professionals with trained design eyes.

    I call bullcrap.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joy-Hopkins/100000775652362 Joy Hopkins

    Okay… While I believe we have zero “right” to expect them to pull the design of the building, their claim of not seeing its resemblance to the WTC Towers after the attack, prior to their collapse, sounds rather disingenuous considering the impact this event had ’round the world, and the fact that the images of that day with the after-effects received intense scrutiny and air time over the following weeks and months. If one also factors in the 10th yr anniversary replaying of the attack, I would expect that someone over there would have noticed because it’s as plain as the nose on Jimmy Durante’s face!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eileen-Haggerty/1293271367 Eileen Haggerty

    I cannot believe what i am reading here. Any one who would defend the building of these buildings is a moron.  HELLO this is a complete mockery of a horrible attack on America and its citizens.  If you think these buildings should exist, great-  move to South Korea and live in them.  My head is still spinning from the complete crap i am reading here – you are an american which means you defend our country  or you’re not an american – YES it really is that simple  – if you find anything good about these buildings then you must have slept right through the horror of 9/11 but the good thing is you  are welcome to leave this GREAT COUNTRY whenever you want — I’d be happy to buy you a plane ticket and drive you to the airport

  • Anonymous

    Being an ally of the US I cant see the design being intentional but if it is too offensive to many of their allys they might want to reconsider or change to some degree the design to offset the negative! It can be taken both ways..I didnt lose anyone in the bombings but if I had I may have naturally had more of a reaction to this design.I can only imagine! This is a touchy issue they might need to reconsider based on personal sentiment!

  • Anonymous

    Coolest building ever. The paranoid connection Beck makes is just that, another nail in the creepy mind of an idiot savant for self-martyrdom. 

  • Anonymous

    Just how stupid does the rest of the world think American’s are? Please post any other twin tower building with a ‘cloud” design connecting the two towers. I bet you can’t find even one! 
    Calling Bull Sh.t on Korea’s explanation of this obviously offensive building design in No way divides Americans in our country. It simply calls it for what it is: outrageously offensive! We all need to relearn the childhood fable, “The Emperor who Has No Clothes” 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MWAAFFBVKAROICVSLJNTZJPMBA HELEN

    How unfriendly!

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, that’s what they called the one kid who called it like he saw it, “The Emperor is naked!” They called him paranoid too. Hint when the left starts calling you names you know you have hit on the truth!

  • lilolady

    Yes, they were the people of our Nation, and we wept as a Nation, for our Nation.  We lost  more than people that day and I, like you will never get past that hole in  my heart …..

  • Matt Cavin

    In a country that preaches so much about being tolerant of differing views/backgrounds/races/etc, we sure do like to bitch about something that offends us just because it doesn’t tickle our fancy.  If Korea wants to build a shrine that makes a mockery of 9/11, so be it.  They’re not American and that’s their right.  If you don’t like it, don’t effing look at it!  If they want to be disrespectful, let them.  Nobody is forcing you to look at it.  QUIT YER BITCHIN!  And you’re damn right, I hope this offended you!  

    And Roger Funk is right on the spot.  Nobody in this country gives two sh!ts about what happens outside of their own backyard.  But when something happens to us, the world should bow down and show respect??  Get over yourselves.  The world is a messed up place and we’re no better than they are.  Everyone freaked out about 9/11 because someone came onto our soil and killed some of our people based on their belief that, in their mind, is superior to ours.  How is it any different what we did over there??  We have killed a lot more of their people based on our “superior belief”.  And really, who’s right??  Nobody.  It’s all just a bunch of opinions from a bunch of GOD DAMN INTOLERANT ASSHOLES!! Maybe if people weren’t so damn judgmental and just accepted, truly accepted, the differences we have, we could finally be at peace.  We are no better than they are so just shut up already.  

  • lilolady

    Is you oil a little low today, dipstick?

  • Anonymous

    All of you who like this design – which is a complete mockery of an American tragedy – should leave our wonderful country and go live with like-minded animals in other parts of the world.  That would be really good for all the real americans  Have a nice trip …don’t bother coming home … we won’t miss you

  • Tim

    Wow.  That’s insane.  If they wanted to try this why didn’t they make it with buildings that weren’t the same height, or weren’t so uniform or something.  Its probably some jackass architect that thought this up, and not South Korea as a whole, but somebody over there should say something. Its kind of a freaky idea anyway, who wants to live in a cloud?  I don’t know why anybody would want to live in something like that. 

  • Bill Tyner

    Blame it on the rich people?  Nah, it’s truly a “gotcha” design where the viewers first response is something like OMG!  The design does that job admirably.  Whether or not it is offensive, well someone said tasteless and I agree.  Except for the cancerous growth, the building is bland.  After the “gotcha” wears off it becomes simply curious.

    I’m surprised some Arab country didn’t think of it first.

  • Anonymous

    Hey Roger, why do you assume that this is not a mockery of the twin towers.  Also, if it is not a mockery, explain to me why a truly qualified architect would have to use the burning twin towers as a model for an original design. By the way, if you can’t see the nearly identical resemblance between the twin towers burning and the So. Korean design you must be blind. We live in a great country Roger – you should consider defending our country’s best interest instead of treating an obvious and disrespectful insult as an “artists expression”  Take off your rose colored liberal glasses and face reality

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think that building has anything to do with 9/11.  I can see how it may be offensive to some, but that it where it needs to end.  So you are offended…well everyday people are offended by something.  So what!  That’s one of the biggest problems in this country now is that we try to cater to everyone’s sensibilities and it just isn’t possible. Enough of the PC bullsh*t.   It is ok to be offended…that’s your prerogative. You can’t please all of the people all of the time.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, after the barely stopped MOSQUE dedication at the 9/11 site I can see how the rest of the world might think Americans are idiots. Since when is it politically incorrect to notice when you are being mocked? 

  • Anonymous

    Because its our money! Dont take our money on the one hand then mock us on the other! Its called RESPECT! As an American I think we’ve earned it.

  • Anonymous

    Are you for real Matt Cavin  do you have any idea how much money Americans donate to victims of natural/man-made disasters ALL OVER THE GLOBE.  Besides its not about other countries disrespecting American – yes they are allowed to –  but HELLO you as an AMERICAN don’t have to accept their DISRESPECT you are allowed to feel offended and express your opinion

  • Carol Neilson

    No I didn’t lose anyone in the attacks in Spain, nor do I know any of their names, however if I were a designer, I wouldn’t create a design that looked like a blown up mangled train either… nor would I create anything that looked like a mosque/church/temple that was blown up, or a metro car or subway station blown apart (UK 7/7). I think I’d have a little more consideration for humanity.

  • Anonymous

    Coolest building ever huh – I’d like to know where you were when our World Trade Center looked just like that.  I was home, in horror, watching it burn – oh, that’s right, I was also packing my husband duffle bag for extended patrol duty in NYC as a NYPD Sergeant.  By the way, not that you care, but he didn’t even come home for 5 nights.  I hope you slept well those nights after 9/11  i know i didn’t, my kids didn’t, and sadly my friends who were waiting to hear from their loved ones didn’t either.  Again, not that you care but they are still – 10 years later – waiting to hear from their loved ones.  Its so easy to forget – FineTapestry – I almost envy you – forgetting would be so less painful

  • http://www.ssaarabians.homestead.com Victoria Jensen

    That is a slap in the face to all Americans and I agree get our troops out of there NOW!!!
    So sick to even think of building something like that.

  • lilolady

    The first time around was the only impression any of us needed and we find it a little more than disturbing, the second time around.  We tried to puzzle in our minds who
    could do such a thing, and we found it was done by people who hate us.  Fool me once
    shame on me, fool me twice, shame on you.  Who is kidding who here?

  • http://tayloralexander.org tayloralexander

    Glenn, as much as I like you and your past level headed approach to presenting issues, I have to ask…. Have you taken your mood stabilizer for the past few weeks. I believe you’re below recommended therapeutis levels. First your histeronic behavior over the Defense Authorizations bill and now this. Next we’ll be hearing all buildings should be restricted to ‘no taller than they are wide’ so as not to upset those with penis envy.

  • lilolady

    Yes, CJ we all read the story.  

  • lilolady

    How terribly sweet of you to be so gullible.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gordon-Martines/100000736895083 Gordon Martines

    To my fellow bloggers;

    There probably isn’t anybody that is more patriotic and supportive for my country than me.  I don’t get the vibes from the construction of this building that it is a slam against this country or what happened to our people.  Now if you are talking about re-electing this president, that is a horse of a different color and I would feel disillusioned and offended about that.  Just an old veteran cop reflecting,

    Gordon Martines
    Las Vegas, NV

  • L Bacerra

    They may not have meant to offend, but they admitted that the WTC was part of their creative process in designing this monstrosity.  They said about their firm that they like pushing boundaries and seek to be Michael Moores of architecture.  So this Dutch firm either wanted to jab at America “we’re just joking but your country does suck” or was truly ignorant, “saw a pic of an exploding building and I was inspired.”  Much like the fashion designer who was inspired by Holocaust victim prison attire as something avante garde and yet she didn’t mean to offend anybody.  But it was offensive nonetheless, especially if these designers knew where they were getting their inspiration from.  Aside from the obvious 9/11 connection, this is just aesthetically displeasing!  I appreciate art – beauty and balance are important to me.  These towers barely had either!  A few of their organic looking buildings are nicely designed but for the most part, in their effort to be on the edge creatively, they fell off the cliff!

  • lilolady

    In case you have forgotten the time you spent with your family growing up and learned nothing, whoever pays the bills … makes the rules!  You want independence?  Then you take care of your own needs and you can get drunk and run naked if you want to.

  • Anonymous

    Really Joe Ruyle, the similarity is so disturbing it gave me chills – anyone who didn’t feel the same was absent that day.  By the way South Korea exists today because our brave soldiers gave their all in support of that country. See how they thank those brave men – its so sad and disturbing it makes me sick. But what is worse is that the history of why So. Korea has been our supposed “ally” has been completely over-looked by people like you.  Who exactly are the “whiners” you refer to?  Are they the moms, dads, sisters, brothers, grandmas, grandpas. aunts, uncles, friends, neighbors, co-workers of our brave soldiers who never came home.  Or maybe the relatives who said bye to their loved ones on what they didn’t know would be their LAST DAY on this earth.   I dont know, you seem so sure that no one else cares. I happen to have friends who live in many different countries.  They see their loved ones in the ones lost on that horrible day.  I feel blessed to associate with open-hearted people who get that terrorism is wrong – it is never policitally “correct” – no matter what country it takes place in.  Pick a side people its us or them – yes – that simple – which side are you on?

  • lilolady

    Not to mention martial law.  From what I have seen “three meals a day and cable t.v. is a bit optimistic. And we have Mc Cain to thank for it,
    among others.

  • Anonymous

    NORTH KOREA IS READY TO GIVE THEM A BLACK-OUT SOON> AMERICANS HAVE NO PLACE THERE   HOME IS THEIR PLACE!!!

  • Anonymous

    NORTH KOREA IS READY FOR THEM  NICE BLACK-OUT

  • lilolady

    And what makes you think we are not about to fall to Communism within a few months ourselves?  You and so many fail to recognize the time to stand for something is now!
    And if you let a kid kick you in the slats, next, his dog will pee on your leg.  We got a 
    kid named Obama who goes all around the world and kicks us in the slats, what minor
    actor will escalate to the next indignity?  Because they have permission to do so.  Our
    “leader” invites it.

  • Anonymous

    I guessing from your very uninvolved reaction that 1.  no one you know was affected by 9/11 and  2.  you and no one you know have never been diagnosed with a “cancerous growth”.  Well, listen up . . .  as someone who both knows many people lost in the World Trade Terrorism Attacks and 2.  Someone who has had cancer 2 times in the last 3 years SHAME ON YOU – you throw horrilble terms around lightly hoping it will make you sound smart – it doesn’t  and if you or anyone you actually care about did have cancer you would never use it as an adjective to describe a building – Bill, sadly your day will come, it might be you or it might be someone you love – but some day you will feel the awful pain of loss and it will be at that moment you will re-think what you have written here this evening

  • lilolady

    Nothing has been done because we are BROKE!  New York is governed by a Commie.
    The Gestapo is all part of the plan to make sheeple become accustomed to undignified treatment, so when our hair is shorn and we are made to shiver in our nuditiy in public without complaint, they will know that the “proles ” are  ready for the “next step”.  You 
    have outlined many good points, but remember, that if you let a small thing pass without notice or comment, as a family man you know that brats will escalate a small
    thing into something very difficult to set right.

  • lilolady

    Throw a rock and you know which dog is hit.

  • http://tayloralexander.org tayloralexander

    Can I add to your offend list? Great Post…
    4. I’m offended because people wear their victim badge as if 9-11 only impacted those in and connected to the WTC’.
    5. I’m offended because thin skined people make an issue of a building design.
    6. I’m offended because since Viet Nam, I have been a staunch believer in if you commit troops, you do it to win and then reap the spoils. If you’re not willing to do that then don’t waste one life on world social engineering. I believe in total, vicious, dirty, horrible war. Service members are dying as this is written and for what? We’re going to walk away in the near future and have gained WHAT?

  • http://tayloralexander.org tayloralexander

    I like the design. Like the smart way the designer hid the skybridge. I also like the design because it is a departure from the thousands of plain, slab-sidded structures I saw while flying from one end of the country to the other.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jaron-Berry/100000698012391 Jaron Berry

    Are you kidding me?  You people are flipping out when a sovereign country on the other side of the world constructs a building that we don’t happen to like?  That building was probably being designed by engineers before the 9/11 attack and even then why should they change the design or halt construction because of a foreign event that is not connected to Korea, its people or its culture?  Honestly you people need to understand that there are other countries in this world with their own ideas and culture.  The sovereign nation of Korea has the right to construct whatever it wants however it wants whenever it want.  I bet you’d feel a little violated if a larger power said to you that you couldn’t build a building because of an attack that you can’t fully emphasize with because it happened a decade ago in a foreign land with a different culture and different language.  They even apologized for it when they realized that it had a similarity to the event, I mean its not like a country is going to purposely spend millions of dollars to construct a building to mock a country that has a far superior military standing that even has bases in the country itself.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2QUAXBS5NRMN5VPPAR67OKDAEE David M

    what the hell is it supposed to be?

  • Anonymous

    Yes, I think that we should grow up and get over our selves.  It is not being built in the US so shut up and grow up!

  • Anonymous

    Of course it was intentional!  How idiotic do they think we are?  Well, judging by some of the posts below, I’d say they hit the mark on a few.

    Any structure built, any public building or landscape project must go through constant changes that are reviewed and debated for and against.  Can you design a building with the shape of a crucifix?  No.  The moment the idea comes up, every argument for controversy is vetted.  The image of the twin towers is one that is known throughout the world.  To even present this without someone having to point it out is ludicrous.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2QUAXBS5NRMN5VPPAR67OKDAEE David M

    justin, can you explain it besides saying “t is cool”? what is it? what do those blobs represent? can you see anyone living
    or working in those things?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Paula-Zakowski-Rhodes/100001111298538 Paula Zakowski Rhodes

    Oh my goodness. A little change in the design would make me happier. I don’t like it now.

  • eve hunter

    a very artistic new design.  though i might not buy a condo in that building i can appreciate the very ingenious, artistic design.  it is really thinking outside the box.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Denisa-Dellinger/100001735697159 Denisa Dellinger

    There is no way they could not know this looks like the World Trade Center. It is the most famous image of the 21st century.  But there is no law against bad taste. Maybe they could make it a memorial to 9/11 to honor the towers. It certainly would be a permanent reminder of one of the most devistating moments in history.

  • srhawk

    disgusting!!  Simply put….disgusting.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=794154759 Iris Franks Henderson

    I find this horrifying, and do not believe the explanation.  What world are we lliving in?  I didn’t expect this from South Korea!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=794154759 Iris Franks Henderson

    I find this horrifying!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1193236043 Greg Layman

    I don’t believe they will build it now that it was pointed out the strong resemblance to the towers.  On a more personal level, I think the thing is ugly and shouldn’t be built just on that basis but then I never did understand modern art (or architecture as the case may be).

  • Mark Cline

    To date there is still no peace treaty been signed between North and South Korea.  We are the reason the South Koreans are a free people. And the South Koreans have become prosperous and affluent as a result.  I have nothing negative to say about them except that they should have years ago achieved a level of military capability such tht they did no longer need us to protect them.  Regardless of whether or not they build buildings that look like the twin towers exploding, we should have long ago pulled our forces out of their country.  That’s a continuing war that we’re involved in that no one has been remembering to call a war, simply because it has been in a stalemate condition for so long.  And that’s irresponsible.  At the very least, our forces should be fully reimbursed for all our expenses while we remain as their protectors.  I want to see S. Korea prosper, but not at our expense.

  • Geoff Wattles

    It represents the new Asian hubris.  They want to say anyone can out-do the US. That architect’s fantasy is an insult.  

    The only thing we should “get over” is letting the rest of the world look down on the greatest country ever established.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kathy-Jones/1443515728 Kathy Jones

    This design was not just stumbled upon….It is a deliberate slap in the face of America…and a pat on the back to terrorism.  Anyone who can’t see the evil intent here…..is blind.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WYUALO7I5AM7TNREFNNOPDXXPM frank

    It is upsetting but I do believe it is a what they say, just a cloud design I think if it were a direct slap the sides of the buildings would have vertical groves like the twin towers did. This building has those square building block pattern.   

  • Anonymous

    ” Do you remember a single victim’s name from the train bombing in Madrid after 9/11????? ”

    No, but I remember Spain’s reaction.  They bent over to appease terrorists so they wouldn’t “suffer” any more.  Typical of Europeans.

  • thelionoftruth

       BTW What?! Bestiality!!!  Ever heard of Sodom and Gomorrah. Ehhhhhhh! Total Destruction?!!! Pleeeeeaaase! People wake up! No Ethics! No America!

  • Anonymous

    I think it is UGLY but not an insult or reference to 9-11.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, they’re sorry all right.  Time for the USA to get the hell out of Korea and let them take care of themselves.  The older generation still respects America and remains thankful for our help and sacrifices but the present generation – they hate America and Americans.

  • Anonymous

    @Carlos: I’m sorry but these ranting against this building strike an eerie resemblance to those on the Left that have laws changed because something hurt someone. Give me a break.

  • Anonymous

    I had family the were thankfully BOTH late for work that fateful day….neither had been late a day in their life……. I don’t have a problem with the buildings themselves but that “cloud” thing is crap.

  • http://www.serr8d.blogspot.com/ Serr8d

    The design is, as stated by their press release ‘apology’, purposeful; there are overarching concerns addressed by the architecture. I’m not seeing a problem with it, really.

    It’s on the other side of the world, in a nation few Americans visit. We should not be so easily offended. What, we are all LeftLibProggs now ?

  • Anonymous

    I have lived in South Korea for the last 3 years and as an American who understands the Korean culture alot more than Gleen Beck thinks he does. I would have to totally disagree with him. They make some very interesting designs and concept of buildings all the time. Just because it looks like the twin towers doesn’t mean they are representing them.  Every South Korean I have ever talked to about 9/11 has said nothing but sadness and distress for what happened that day.
       And even.. even if it was made to look like the twin towers (which I strongly believe that is not the intention) it would be to honor them, not hurt anyone.  Koreans live in an honorific society and outward representation of respect is a huge part of their lifestyle. The Korean government would never let this thing be build it they even had a hint of disrespect to 9/11.  Even on South Korean t.v. they are not allowed to disrespect North Korea.. So to say this is disrespectful is just going way to far!

  • J Shaun Moore

    You are clearly a leftist… american hater, free market hater….Glenn Beck Hater…You should go move over there.

  • Anonymous

    I find this very offensive!  They may as well hang death to America banners from the roof top. 

  • Anonymous

    Regardless of all these opinions supporting this project, ask yourselves one question…  When you look at the picture of buildings, what is the first thought that comes into your mind?

  • Anonymous

    Lets take a deep breath ….review..how many American lives were given;impacted;altered, by supporting South Korea in the past. Americans may not know the rest of the world….but if you ever travel, you will learn, the rest of the World follows America. We are different..as a nation, with different goals; ideas. The very birth of our nation, the men and women who put ideas, freedoms, above their own gain, were very different then what we see today.Other nations know our history; I wish our country would study it’s history like they do the sports or music/TV.  So in fact S.Korea is very aware of their design, their apology is another insult, they understand and realize most Americans will not. We support what we place a value on. Few value their own country. What thought occupies your mind the most….for myself; love of God and country…welfare of my family…and hope for a better future for all.  It maybe time S.Korea stood on it’s on…come what may.

  • Anonymous

    Again I repeat:  When you look at a picture of these buildings…what is the first thought that comes into your mind?  Intended to offend or not…I believe 99.9% of people world-wide will relate it painfully to that sad horrific day.

  • Anonymous

    911 was tragic and was ten years ago. Important not to let it happen again. That being said who cares if S Korea wants to design, implement, and build a fucking ugly, tasteless, and offensive  building for people to live in. Capitalism only requires investors and buyers and it looks like they are gonna make allot of money selling condos at this project.

  • thelionoftruth

       Well It certainly is controversial and Makes it a great marketing ploy!
    Some suffer, some amazed, Most don’t care. It’s a material look to try and
    forget! If you like the architecture that’s fine, but to me it looks really really ugly!
    What next???  

  • Anonymous

    Why is it necessary to use profanity in making a comment?

  • Anonymous

    they are called “sentence enhancers”

  • Anonymous

    Why do you have a need to use profanity when expressing your opinion?

  • thelionoftruth

    No! It’s called Idiocy! Enhancers are “Awfully ugly”  But to each their own!!!

  • http://dawgdays.com DawgDays

    Yeah, my first reaction is “WTF?!!”……but IF they DID this as a slam, so what!  I’m not going to let yet another distraction take my focus off the REAL problems we need to be paying attention to. Haven’t we fallen for enough of that from the White House?

  • thelionoftruth

       Finally a bright statement! …Applause!!!

  • Anonymous

    Look at the foundation footprint in the picture, its the same as WTC. When adjacent buildings are attached in some fassion or another, it is usually using two sides facing each other, this design is corner to corner, I think it is a match. Wonder what kind of background (terriorist ties, extremists????) the designers really have?

  • Anonymous

    Lets bring our soldiers, who have helped guard the S. Korea/N. Korea border home!  Obviously, they have NO respect for the U.S.  And, to condescend by saying “we apologize to anyone whose feelings we have hurt…”  Gimme a break!

  • Rebecca Sorrels

    My grandfather fought in WWII and was alive to see 9/11. He fought for the flag that this country burns in the “peace core”.  I am not trying to be rude or anything, and I know that everyone interprets everything differently and has an opinion. I believe that its okay to have buildings like these, this is because we have to set aside something in the past to move forward into the future. Even if its mocking us, we can show we have pride and we are able to forgive by just laughing it off and smiling saying how “unique” it is. I lost my uncle to 9/11 because he was on the plane that flew into one of the trade centers… I know the feeling of loosing a loved one and how it pains people, but if we can hold together, maybe we can see good in this…

  • thelionoftruth

      That’s a pretty stupid statement! They pertains to all I hate general statements like that!

  • Anonymous

    If they build it, I’d pull all financial and military support from their country. We could us those troops to protect our own borders instead of somebody else’s

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WMJGQI3LI57N6WK72HGLMYMWAE NJ2PA

    Sorry, but no matter what their spin on this inconsiderate design is, they should be ashamed of themselves for allowing this building to be built. Nothing but a huge slap in the face of America.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WMJGQI3LI57N6WK72HGLMYMWAE NJ2PA

    If this is their true feelings against a country that has protected them for decades, fine. I feel about them the same way that I feel towards the French in that regard.

  • thelionoftruth

      Who are “They” is that all South Korean’s? Do all S Korean’s believe or even know
    about this?

  • thelionoftruth

      I’m Sorry! That’s They, Their, Them!!!

  • Rebecca Sorrels

    I like your way of thinking! we always try to blame it on “them” or “they” when they actually could be innocent! no one except the architecture people could actually know about it! we are blaming people that dont needed to be blamed!

  • thelionoftruth

      That’s What I’m Talkin’ About….

  • http://www.facebook.com/Mustangdude86 Kyle Tobias

    Even if it wasn’t a direct reference to our tragedy….there should still be a line of tact and principle to uphold I would imagine. Or maybe I’m giving this world way too much credit. This every nation for themselves attitude is exactly why this world is so fucked up to begin with. Regardless of what it’s true purpose is supposed to be, I don’t see Glenn’s idea of pulling out the bases to be a bad thing. I’m not sure if i were stationed there and had to see that thing everyday(depending on it’s location), that I would want to be there anymore or feel the least bit secure in living there anymore or what not.

  • Rebecca Sorrels

    It seems rather wrong that we are fighting over this, because why? Is it because our pride and ego has gotten so big that we can’t see the truth? I mean really people…. We need to “love each other” and I am not being a hippy I am speaking from the words of truth. If our pride continues to get in the way, it will be the destruction of the USA, just like how Rome was destroyed! We need to forgive! not have revenge over just a building….

  • thelionoftruth

       Yeah! Let’s blame all South Korean’s! They all must believe this!

  • thelionoftruth

       My applause to you also Rebecca Sorrels (;^)}>  I have a beard!  Smiles!

  • Anonymous

    This is not an isolated incident that the S. Korean people are ignorant to.

    Read the following taken from a Dennis Prager article…

    Over 36,000 Americans died in America’s successful attempt to keep South Korea from becoming communist. And another 92,000 were wounded.
    So, forgive me for the contempt I feel for South Koreans who demonstrate against the United States and for the two-thirds of South Koreans who, according to a 2002 Gallup-Korea poll, view the United States unfavorably. Whenever I see those anti-American demonstrators or read such polls, all I can think about are the tens of thousands of Americans who died so that South Koreans would not live in the communist hell their fellow Koreans live in.
    Younger South Koreans want American troops to leave their country? Do these young people not know that on planet Earth no other country suffers the mass enslavement, mass incarceration, mass death or the deadening of the mind and soul that North Koreans endure because of the psychopaths who run that country?
    And if they do know all this about North Korea, how do they explain why South Korea is so different?
    Here is a suggestion: The South Korean government should conduct a national plebiscite on whether America should withdraw its troops from that country. Before the South Korean people vote, the United States should make it clear that if it withdraws its troops and North Korea later invades the South, we will send no troops to die again for South Korea — but we will vote to condemn North Korea’s aggression at the United Nations.
    If a majority of the South Korean people wants us to leave, we should.
    The beauty of such a plebiscite is that if a majority of the South Korean people wants American troops out, we have no moral obligation to stay there. And if a majority wants us to stay, the South Korean left and other ingrates in that country should shut up.
    I have been to South Korea, and I live in a community with many Koreans. I have always admired their industriousness, work ethic and strong families. But South Korea is surely the most ungrateful country in the world. Which is all the more remarkable since it is also the luckiest.
    COPYRIGHT 2011 CREATORS.COM

  • Pamela Wetzel

    No coicidence here!  This is sickening!

  • thelionoftruth

       Yes! So this proves all S.Korean’ are all the same! Doesn’t It?
    I suggest you reread this article again and pick it apart before you make
    a judgement on all the people,

  • Anonymous

    Drive a hyundai sonata, then drive a chevy cobalt. There is no doubt they have the engineers to build a monstrosity like that.  Their desire to disprove logic with engineering shows the peter principle in coming into effect in S Korea.

  • Anonymous

    honey bless your heart sorry for your loss.   personally I get tired of the hearing about the poor soles that lost their lives that day.  what about all the poor soles that lose their lives in combat and the only thing their families receive is a flag and IF they bought their own insurance get that if THEY BOUGHT IT THEMSELVES…..so yes lets not forget about the attack but its no different to me than being at the wrong place at the wrong time…..bless their soles.   yes to some koreas monument is not good, but ya know what its their monument.  not ours……WHO CARES!!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Christine-Dodd/100001423447191 Christine Dodd

    I believe them too and I think it’s a nice looking design and it would be cool to see how the inside would look. I’m sorry but 9/11 happened 10 yrs ago and yes we will never forget but we need to move on and be more prepared than before. The design is unique and if it is true as o what they say then I have no problem with it.

  • thelionoftruth

       Not quite sure what that means, But any auto if taken care of is OK with me!

  • Anonymous

    I NEVER lumped all S. Koreans in with those that design structures like the subject nor the ones who want the U.S. to leave militarily.  I think you, Mr. Lion, are making the wrong assumption.  However, instead of attacking everyone who does NOT agree with your point of view, perhaps you should look at the underlying sentiment in S. Korea to see where things like this building might originate and find acceptance.  There is a growing sentiment, a significantly growing sentiment, and the U.S. might do well to weigh its alternatives and resources. 

    Done arguing with YOU…I’m going to do a little Christmas decorating.  Have a good day.

  • Anonymous

    I would like the government to pay all the young men and women that have died protecting this country to get what these families got…….just as an equal monetary fact, give me a break. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WMJGQI3LI57N6WK72HGLMYMWAE NJ2PA

    You are a fool. Our pride is what built this country, and if you and others don’t like it, go live somewhere else. 

  • Drew Jacoby

    If it is really about the design, and no one can say definitively one way or the other, can’t they just add more “clouds” to the building? One, they get even more room and sunlight, and two, they wouldn’t have to release public apologies. Just a thought.

  • thelionoftruth

    Fairness is not reality! Reality is our faith that God will providentially protect His
    Purpose!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WMJGQI3LI57N6WK72HGLMYMWAE NJ2PA

    And not one of the design team thought that maybe this was not such a good idea? Please. And for all of you apologists out there who say our pride will be the destruction of out country, I say you are idiots. Why should we not be a proud country? Why is it that you fools, along with our moron president, feel the need to hate America? Go live somewhere else if you are ashamed of the U.S.

  • Rebecca Sorrels

    I see, you have an interesting Point of View Pamela. But what about others? what about the people that are around you, what do they think? If its just a coincidence, then we need to forgive. Pride is something that blocked our eyesight in 9/11 and now its blocking our eyesight again. I am not insulting you, nor trying to oppose you, I just want you to think outside the box first before you start assuming. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WMJGQI3LI57N6WK72HGLMYMWAE NJ2PA

    Pamela,

    I could not agree more. How could anyone looking at that design not once think it resembles 9/11? Nothing but a lame excuse if you ask me.

  • thelionoftruth

    Common Sense! Pride. Not pride over all.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Anthony-Taylor/1199623815 Anthony Taylor

    glenn beck, you sir never cease to amaze me at the amount of hate that you spit out of your mouth on the regular, what does two buildings that look the same connected in the middle via a cloud have to do with 9/11? this is an awesome design that i have never seen before, what makes you think that the rest of the world has to see the same thing America see’s in an ink blot test? 

  • Rebecca Sorrels

    I am not ashammed on America, nor will I ever be. I love this country, however when the incident at 9/11 happened, what happened? Our pride went sour. What I am trying to say is, lets have a good force to back up the pride so it doesn’t happen again. Now have you heard the term “the politics were arguing at the gates when Rome fell” ? it is rather true. Their pride got in the way and it blinded them from an attack from barbarians. I want this country to last forever, but it needs to become stronger before it can become fully great. 

  • Anonymous

    DIP   SH*&^%< , HOPE YOU WILL GET A TASTE OF THE REAL HURT ONE DAY,
    YOU ARE NOT PART OF THE SOLUTION, BUT PART OF THE BIG PROBLEM,
    ARE YOU A RADICAL MUSLIM ?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WMJGQI3LI57N6WK72HGLMYMWAE NJ2PA

    lion-

    Or is it “lyin”? Liberals like you are why this country is in the shape it is in. Don’t you have somewhere to “occupy”?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YZKD2DIQ6SAQQQLH52CVJHVLQU Bill

    Personally, I think the building is ugly… no architectural
    beauty. However, it is “JUST” a building. It is time we put the touchy-feely mind
    set out of mind. This “Political Correctness” BS has got to stop. Yes,  get over
    it, even if you had family in the TTs. We all greave over lost loved ones but,
    at that, there is a time to move on. America has had enough of that Dr. Spock crap. There
    will always be winners and losers, those that will stand up proudly and whiners.

    A lot of whiners state the America should keep their noses
    out of other countries business. Well, whiner, this is one of those times.
    Keep your whining to yourself. NK, Build the building, put people to work. America, learn from this attitude.  

  • Anonymous

    ANOTHER DOPE !!!  NO BRAINS …..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WMJGQI3LI57N6WK72HGLMYMWAE NJ2PA

    Excuse me rebecca, but why is it that you libs always want to blame America for what ails the world? 

  • thelionoftruth

      99.9 Percent believe this! But why should all believe to punish all the innocent people
    that absolutely had nothing to do or care for this.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WMJGQI3LI57N6WK72HGLMYMWAE NJ2PA

    rebecca-

    Once again, you are wrong. After 9/11, our pride did not sour. In fact, it re-energized us. Obama is what is ruining our pride and our standing in the world. Perhaps it is you who should open your eyes.

  • Rebecca Sorrels

    Now that is just rude…. Liberals are somewhat are responsible and so are others! everyone has equal blame here. I am a conservative, and I strongly believe in restoring and fixing the government we have. Conservatives also have a place in the ruin of the government as do liberals. This is because there is no cooperation! NJ2PA, you have worldviews that stand out, but can you use them correctly? Please dont take this the wrong way. I am not trying to offend you in ANY way. If I do offend you, please forgive me for my rudeness. 

  • thelionoftruth

     You’re Simply absurd! No answer to you will be deserving.

  • Anonymous

    I BELIEVE THERE IS A BUNCH OF “SICKOS”  ON  THIS PAGE !!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WMJGQI3LI57N6WK72HGLMYMWAE NJ2PA

    So now you compare folks to Glenn Beck? Typical lib. If you cannot see the likeness, take off your blinders. The design is hideous, to say the least, but if that is what people think looks awesome, fine. But don’t be so much a fool to think there is no likeness. Btw, Glenn Beck has made numerous predictions over the last few years, such as the occupy idiots, and he was right.

  • Rebecca Sorrels

    Yes Obama is ruining our pride, but it is not fully his fault. Once 9/11 happened, the people prayed on the capital steps in Washington. We re-energized our pride just like WWII did. We can’t blame people for something that wasn’t fully his doing. I can understand that that is the first thing that happens in the human mind, but what if we dug deeper? what if we could see the whole picture? I believe in Pride and it is ok, cause it is what makes us great, but it also can destroy us if were not careful. If we had no pride, would we be arguing right now? 

  • thelionoftruth

    Only a lying liberal would call a Constitutional conservative a Liar!!!

  • Anonymous

    Off track statements aside, I think it is an incredibly insensitive depictment of an attack on American soil. Anyone who will not allow themselves to see the underlying theme here has to be a blind fool and will be the first to cry fowl if our freedom is taken from us by terrorists. OOPS! I forgot… The current administration does’nt allow the word terrorist! Hey, maybe the next project will be a Korean hotel complex made entirely of partially submerged battleships. I dont see where the similarity is to another attack that propelled us into war! Bunch of damn fool touchy feely liberal BS!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WMJGQI3LI57N6WK72HGLMYMWAE NJ2PA

    rebecca-

    You would have to try really hard to offend me, so no worries. However, please do not lecture me on conservatism. I will be the first to agree with you that people in DC who claim to be conservative are not really conservative at all. There are few conservatives in DC, period. That being said, what does offend me is the fact that our part-time president does absolutely nothing to benefit this country. Instead, he has continuously made us weaker. Look what has been done to our once big military. Does it make you nervous that China and Russia continue to build up their military power, but we keep dismantling ours? That is not only irresponsible, but it is also dangerous.

  • Anonymous

    Any rational person can see that these buildings mean to duplicate the 9/11 attacks.  “….nor did we see the resemblance during the design process.”  Really?  Where have you been the past 10 years?  Another galaxy?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WMJGQI3LI57N6WK72HGLMYMWAE NJ2PA

    Idiot.

  • Rebecca Sorrels

    Yes, Yes and Yes. I agree with you that our president is doing a poor job. What scares me is that we are actually in debt to China, and I haven’t even graduated from school, still got two year left. I was put in with the highest students and I know alot that public school people dont know (forgive me if I offended again…). It is very dangerous for this to happen and I lie awake at a young age thinking “What if I dont wake up tomorrow due to a bomb?” I am so scared of the attacks that could happen and what might happen. I plan to run for president when I get older and increase military power and follow Ronald Regans example he set before me. NJ2PA, I agree with you on this one. But i still disagree with the manner of Pride. Thank you for teaching me today! ^_^

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WMJGQI3LI57N6WK72HGLMYMWAE NJ2PA

    Spock-

    Finally, someone gets it. 

  • Anonymous

    some of you people obviously have yet to view the entirety of the sketches —- these two are only two in a line of towers. — #2, the koreans have a thing about clouds and towers, so much so that there is a restaurant on the top of an existing tower called “clouds”.

  • thelionoftruth

    Yes! I would be considered an idiot of the world! But an Intellect Of God!

  • Rebecca Sorrels

    I do, the US is acting strange over this….. its just architecture, and its a way to show creativity ^^ 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WMJGQI3LI57N6WK72HGLMYMWAE NJ2PA

    Maybe the designer should have placed the tail end of two 747′s in the sides of the buildings. Then maybe the blind folks could see the resemblance. 

  • Anonymous

    it is rational to learn from the past, and to remember those who may have died via a horrible event, but i humbly submit it is not rational to see that event in everything around you —- that speaks of obsession.

  • Rebecca Sorrels

    Please don’t call us “blind folks” ….. It makes me sad and rather upset and its offensive…. I think the Koreans have a nice way to do architecture and if you look closely, the building are more triangle then square

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WMJGQI3LI57N6WK72HGLMYMWAE NJ2PA

    Anytime. What do you want to know?

  • Anonymous

    Whether the building was built to “resemble” the WTC or not, it is grotesque. It is quite posssibly the uggliest building I have ever seen, with those “warts” sticking out, not like a cloud, but like a bunch of growths. Who would want to live there? Ugg!

  • Anonymous

    and on top of that, a marvel of engineering — the entire south side will be a solar collector for electricity.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WMJGQI3LI57N6WK72HGLMYMWAE NJ2PA

    Rebecca-

    Glad to hear you are considering a run for president. Good luck with that. I also appreciate someone your age knows who Reagan was and what he stood for. We will have to agree to disagree regarding the pride issue. I feel we should have pride in our country. I could be wrong, but I think you may be confusing pride with arrogance.

  • Anonymous

    that’s funny — i think a common box-shaped house is fairly ugly.

  • thelionoftruth

       I’m kinda wondering about that leaning building on the left it’s like looking through a warped
    mirror.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WMJGQI3LI57N6WK72HGLMYMWAE NJ2PA

    Sorry, but it looks like my son’s legos put together randomly. If that is considered art, it’s no wonder that I am not an artist.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WMJGQI3LI57N6WK72HGLMYMWAE NJ2PA

    Go back to your smelly tent in your occupy convent and bang your drum.

  • Anonymous

    well…. i won’t argue with that —- i seen some pretty weird stuff in art museums.

  • thelionoftruth

    This one We agree on! I can’t see anyone living a lego Building!!!

  • Rebecca Sorrels

    Awww I bet your a good artist! Art isnt about being good, its about creating something you like very much! I bet you would do good NJ2PA!

  • thelionoftruth

       Well We all don’t get a prize for just participating, Right?

  • Rebecca Sorrels

    You get a prize for working hard, its called a good time ^_^ and I enjoy art very much, I look at it and think outside like “what was this person trying to make me think of?”

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1043864131 Cathy Valentine Curry

    Come on America!! Get over “feeling sorry” for ourselves about 9-11 and show that we are STRONGER and BETTER THAN EVER!!!!  If we cry every time somebody makes a comment or designs a building that “resembles” or “reminds” us of 9-11 it makes America look like whimpering babies that are stuck in the past and haven’t the “gumption” to move forward.  Never forget.. but move on already people.  The more you let everything ruffle your feathers, the longer we are showing “defeat” by not being able to move past that tragedy.  

  • Anonymous

    how many people on here have actually bothered to look at all the sketches involved with this project ?? —- what you have been shown is out of context —- in other words, you have been set up to respond to a fabricated controversy.

  • thelionoftruth

    Rebecca Ehhh! that’s kinda suggestive of Progressive-ism Isn’t it?

  • Anonymous

    that is true —- the more often we respond to things like this in an irrational way, we are showing the terrorists they won.

  • Rebecca Sorrels

    I want the world to be a better place, not for me though… for my children.. and my children’s children. I believe in making the world better though it hurts me now so I can make others live’s better even if it kills me. May the God watching over me understand what i am saying, I can’t remember where it says it in the Bible but it tells us to be lights unto the earth. I am not a Christian, but I have no religion i guess (?). I follow the Christian rules though. I just want to make the world a better place for others…

  • Anonymous

    for those of you who haven’t discovered the other sketches, you can find them at mvdrv.nl

  • thelionoftruth

      Without God! Mankind will never continue and will! If let go, will!!! destroy themselves.
    There is No! if”s and’s or but’s. No matter how much man tries! Believe this, or not!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7UWUYZ6NCGDFDWRBY3V2UQ2XC4 James

    Maybe someone will fly into that too…

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps we should build it on the 9/11 site to help us remember.  That would be a fitting monument.

  • http://twitter.com/climbr Trent Bradford

    Insensitivity vs. hypersensitivity. I think hypersensitivity tends to be the bigger problem in the world today.

  • Rebecca Sorrels

    I have an issue with christian morals, they were always shoved down my throat since I was young… Thats why I am not a Christian anymore. I never had the chance to think my own way because it always had to be focused on God. I am sorry if this offends you, but I can’t stand the morals that were pushed on me and shoved down my throat. I also was bullied by Christians so….

  • Anonymous

    i don’t need a monument to help me remember, but then, neither do i go around seeing unpleasantness in everything around me. —- it’s sad that in a artistic expression that was intended to show clouds, someone else interprets that as a tribute to an infamous event.

  • thelionoftruth

    So don’t complain, just live your life out the best you can!

  • Anonymous

    I say let them build it, pull all American troops out of S Korea, saving billions of $$, let the Commies from the north enslave the South, taking their Daewoos and Samsungs and any other junk they make with them..then fly some planes into them and topple the buildings…who gets the last laff??

  • Rebecca Sorrels

    Thats what I plan to do, but it isn’t going to be for me, its going to be for everyone… and to make everyones life better then mine

  • Rebecca Sorrels

    I agree we should have Pride, it is important for our nation, we just dont need to much of it to where we become arrogant. I am sorry if this is what you were trying to point out! because I agree we need pride just not to much!

  • Anonymous

    let them build it ?? —- like we have any say in whether they do or don’t ??

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Virgiinia-Turner/100000842651317 Virgiinia Turner

    Too bad WE didn’t think of building it in the Twin Towers hole, as a reminder to us of what happened here. It’s been ten years and already the horrific event is being glossed over. It may be a very painful reminder to people who suffered losses of family and friends, yet look at the Holocaust memorials, the survivors experience the pain and do so with the hope that with these visible memorials, the WORLD will not forget the attempt to annihilate a group of people-genocide. It could happen again—-to us!

  • Anonymous

    there’s a fine line between remembering a horrific event, and allowing it to ruin your life —- that is, after all, the primary goal of the terrorist.

  • Anonymous

    why are not most of you here ? This looks like expected responses you would see in the Huffington Post

  • Margie Aldrete

     I feel this building is “DISGUSTING” to say the least! The problem we have here in the U.S. is that because of the leadership we put in place(not me),we have become a joke to the world.We are now fair game for any despot that enjoys attacking us,in whatever way they choose.When will it end?

                                                   Margaret Aldrete

  • Anonymous

    it’s just ugly.

  • http://tayloralexander.org tayloralexander

    Glenn, as much as I like your past, level-headed approach to presenting issues, I have to ask…. Have you taken your mood stabilizer and anti-psychotic over the past few weeks. I believe your system has dipped below recommended therapeutic levels.
    First your histrionic behavior over the Defense Authorizations bill and now this. Next we’ll be hearing all buildings should be restricted to ‘no taller than they are wide’ so as not to upset those with penis envy.
    I hope you’re being facetious… looking to get a reaction…. I feel if you had come out in support of the design, your readers on this thread that are in search of an opinion would be more supportive of this non-issue.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1222755269 Keye Voigt

    You may want to think about rephrasing your thoughts.  Get over ourselves / 9/11?  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ICC66X6KJF7G2DQFLZ552Y76YQ David

    Yes James, people like you need to get over yourself! This design was not meant to be offensive. It was not modeled after the terrorist attacks. They weren’t even thinking about it when designed. So yes, get over yourself! Let it go!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ICC66X6KJF7G2DQFLZ552Y76YQ David

    And respect their right to design any building they wish! Especially given that few countries are better allies and kinder to us than that of South Korea! Get over yourself!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ICC66X6KJF7G2DQFLZ552Y76YQ David

    So many people on this site claim to be “strong, steadfast, conservative.” Obviously that is a lie for many here. 10 years ago the US was attacked by terrorists. And now a great alley like South Korea can’t design a building because sensitive Americans think it looks too much like a terrorist attack that occurred 10 years ago!

    If you think this is the case, and you are offended by this design, congrats, the terrorists have beat you! You are weak!

  • Anonymous

    Then put the clouds on top of these towers

  • Anonymous

    so….. because of what happened in this country, we are going to dictate to other countries what forms their artistic expression is allowed to take ?? —– is that the freedom that this country stands for, that i fought for in vietnam ?? —- i think not.

  • http://tayloralexander.org tayloralexander

    Offended?
    1. I’m offended by an intrusive out of control government that allows perverts to grope men women and children who want nothing more than to rind on an airline flight.
    2. I’m offended that people still allow their children to be sent to the government indoctrination centers daily and do nothing to change the perverted mess we call public education… see OWS….
    3. I’m offended because people wear their victim badge as if 9-11 only impacted those in and connected to the WTC.
    4. I’m offended because thin skinned people make an issue of a building design.
    5. I’m offended because since Viet Nam, I have been a staunch believer in if a nation commits troops, you do it to win and then reap the spoils. If you’re not willing to do that, then don’t waste one life on world social engineering. I believe war should be total, vicious, dirty, horrible to break the spirit of the enemy. Service members are dying as this is written and for what? We’re going to walk away in the near future and have gained WHAT? That is truely disgusting.

  • Anonymous

    It depends on their intentions of this design and you will never know .

  • Anonymous

    well…. considering the trend they already have in south korea for connecting buildings with clouds, it’s not unfair to say they intended clouds in this case as well.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tuckerbutter Kirsten Tucker

    Absolutely NOT Carlos.  It is disrespectful to demand that everyone have to pass their building plans through an American approval committee just in case it might OFFEND us.  Grow up. It is their sovereign right to build whatever in their country. It offends a few of us, no big deal, get over it.  It’s a building in which people will live.  

  • Anonymous

    Personally, I think the building is cool and architecturally stunning. We have our memorials and other countries have theirs from tragedies. Who are we to judge others and their values based on an ideology and that it reminds us of a tragedy. Do people think that the Koreans really give a crap about us losing 3k people when they have lost hundreds of thousands and had their country split in half?. This is the reason why so many other countries hate us. Maybe one day we will stop being bullies and shoving our ideologies down other countries throats and start taking care of our own issues at home. Sometimes I truly cannot believe how ignor ant we people as a whole are. We can get pissed later when they put a sign up with the middle finger extended and the American flag on the building.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1401917724 LeAnn Timothy Walters

    I”m curious to know why the “cloud” has to be at that level in the building. It is a cool design and reading their conceptual ideas of the reason for the “cloud” makes sense. But why not do it farther down and farther up making it a double “cloud” which would allow even more light and space. There is a happy medium here if people could just learn to negotiate and understand each other. The architects are not wrong, but maybe insensitive if they build it, considering the reaction the design is getting, they could make adjustments and still have their building.Don’t you think??

  • Anonymous

    the people in the lower cloud would tend to get cheated out of their sunshine.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tuckerbutter Kirsten Tucker

    Yeah actually if you remove the picture of 9/11 from your beanie brain and replace it with many pictures of clouds or even fog at about that are on buildings than yes, this building design looks like the ones with clouds.  Now extrapolate that concept into how you would do that kind of architecture and voila, you get what you see above.  Its merely what you want to see based on your past experiences, and I am shocked at how many of you, mostly ignorant of South Korean culture and our relationship with them would think that the people, even the government would go to such lengths to offend the very nation that came to their aid and has given them the longest PEACE in their ENTIRE history.  We have promised to protect them should the North Korean’s act on their crazy and drop below the Parallel…imagine, having that niggling fear in your mind that your northern neighbor wants to blow you up in order to “reunite”.  So what do you do, you build your economy and your infastructure in amazingly innovative ways.  I wish Glenn would not focus on such arbitrary things when we have Wolves in the White House.  Lets focus on that shall we and drop the pettiness?

  • Anonymous

    I like it. I didn’t lose anyone during 9/11. I wasn’t even in this country then. I totally get why you all find it offensive, but honestly like someon e else said they are a sovereign state, we don’t control them. Also, why would an ally of America try to offend us like this? Think about it. Maybe I’m wrong, but whatever, opinions are opinions.

  • http://tayloralexander.org tayloralexander

    Because if it was at ground level it would be called fog

  • http://tayloralexander.org tayloralexander

    Another good post of independent thought
    What we have here is called indoctrination…. You plant the idea you want others to see and write the opinion you want them to have…. Glenn did an excellent job. Most people looking at this structure without the prejudicial insertion of idea seeking a goal would most likely not have arrived at the correlation between the design and the event of ten years ago.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Winkelman/100000749317234 Jim Winkelman

    First, off it is an ugly design.  That should have been enough to stop it. Second, it does look like the twin towers.  Out of respect, I would not build it.  The world knows all about 9/11. It was a major attack.  This building will not just mean something to us.  It will also serve to those who attacked us.  It will inspire only more acts against United States. People really need to look outside of their comfort zone.  Understand how you fight a war against a larger force.  Understand that the little guy the underdog is not going to fight by the rules.  He will be beat every time. Unless he just gets lucky. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeffrey-Parsons/100002149522104 Jeffrey Parsons

    This design would have provided an escape route for more people on 9/11. It does resemble a cloud. I do not like the design personally.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeffrey-Parsons/100002149522104 Jeffrey Parsons

    This design might have provided an escape route for more people on 9/11. It does resemble a cloud. I do not like the design personally.

  • Anonymous

    on the other hand, if we react poorly every time a piece of art resembles something unpleasant, then it seems to me the terrorists have won the war, because the goal of the terrorist is to make us feel just like this.

  • Keith Sprochi

    I cannot imagine how much additional computational modelling, static and dynamic analyses, load bearing analyses, and design for natural anomalies such as earthquakes, extremely high winds, etc must have gone into the architecture of this building. It is remarkable how they were able to portray a cloud of debris billowing out from the buildings, that must have taken an extraordinary amount of additional work. The amount of extra effort and cost to design these building to look the way they do is staggering, it must have cost a fortune just to design the building, I cannot imagine how much extra it would cost to actually build something like this.

    All of that extra cost and effort just to kick the patriotic citizens of the US in the crotch, as well as those foreign nationals who lost loved ones on September 11th, seems like a waste of time and man years. Instead of building monuments to flip us the double bird, maybe they should worry about how they are going to defend their border against the North Koreans when we pull all of our troops out of there?

  • Anonymous

    do you actually put any thought into your comments, or do you just say whatever comes to mind ??

  • http://tayloralexander.org tayloralexander

    I like the design. Like the smart way the designer hid the skybridge. I also like the design because it is a departure from the thousands of plain, slab-sidded structures I saw while flying from one end of the country to the other.

  • Keith Sprochi

    Hey ronpal,

    Wow! It took you a full 22 seconds to respond to my post. Do you get paid to be a jackass, or are you just a jackass? Get out of your mom’s basement and get a life jackass!

  • Anonymous

    Well having two relatives who fought in the Koren War and one with the Purple Heart and the mere fact we are still giving them money – how about we just cut off the money? All I said was if they are clouds, put them on top.  They aren’t fooling anyone.

    You might want to go find something else to do as you seem to be obsessed with this page.  Thanks for fighting in Vietnam – another war that was worthless and unappreciated.  Haven’t noticed the spread of much freedom as a result of that one either.   Heck, we barely have freedom in this country any more, but nice try.  I still have the freedom to think my tax dollars should not go to fund American haters.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Hegarty/1851396557 James Hegarty

    Wasn’t our intention? Pigs do fly.

  • Anonymous

    you know what they say, it takes one to know one. —- what is painfully apparent, is that you did not bother to look at any of the associated designs for this project, and certainly know very little about the south koreans fascination with clouds. —- for instance, did you know there is a restaurant at the top of one of the existing towers, called “clouds ? — i’m guessing not.

  • Anonymous

    I know who will enjoy viewing this….a monument to Their success…killing all those people for no reason….Only positive thing….A constant reminder for those Americans who Care about our country….

  • Anonymous

    and some people don’t know how to use google.

  • http://tayloralexander.org tayloralexander

    People resort to name calling when they lack the intellect to form a coherent thought…. I had the privilege to work with their command structure and we felt we were there to keep the South from invading the North.

  • Anonymous

    I am a naturalized citizen of the United States of America, this latest dasterdly deed sickens me and saddens my heart. First, after the 911 attack, permission is given to errect a mosque almost in ground zero and now a skyscraper  (in the capitol of South Korea) depicting the explosion of the Twin Towers. Makes you wonder where this world is headed. Me personally ( the way World Governments are run these days is not right and just) I thank GOD there is a HELL. HE knows what is in EVERYONES heart and will judge accordingly. 

  • Anonymous

    i intend to stay on this page until people start going to the appropriate website and look at ALL the sketches, not just a portion of one sketch. —- the cloud towers are a continuation of an architectural trend, not an attempt to belittle the tragedy of 911.

  • Anonymous

    As for the guy saying we should get over ourselver, perhaps you should move to one of the countries always slapping America in the face. Been there  and thats why I am here!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Been a long time since I heard the “Because it’s my roof over your head and I said so” routine! Thanks for bringing up those memories! :D
    I won’t take umbrage over the “learned nothing” part of your comment. You don’t know me so it’s understandable.
    The point is that American exceptionalism is based in part on freedom; freedom to pursue life, liberty, and happiness. The founders pledged their lives, honor and fortune for that concept. It seems disingenous to tell another country HOW they are allowed to pursue those tenets.
    We defeated Fascism in the 1940s, we caused the collapse of the USSR at the end of the Cold War, those were righteous exceptions, as those political systems were based on DENYING freedom.
    I VOLUNTEERED to serve my country after leaving college. I’ve spent 1/3 of my life being sent around the world to protect freedom. I’ve stood on the DMZ wondering if a sniper had me in his sights.
    I do take care of my own needs. I only get drunk on New Year’s Eve, and if I ever ran around naked the laughter would sound from coast to coast! :P
    Have a good day, I like your feistiness. May not always agree with your ideas, but it’s good to see someone who’s not afraid to “Fire when ready, Gridley”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tuckerbutter Kirsten Tucker

    Though I have already commented numerous times on this, I feel I must say.  Mr. Beck, I’m disappointed in you and whoever brought this up.  You don’t know the intent of the architect but you could very well believe what he said about it being a cloud. Look at the picture, not the concept of the buildings but the other buildings, at the low clouds in the background nearly on top of those buildings.  Yes it close to us in our minds, but its NOT THAT.  And to pull our troops out, the buffer along the DMZ and the air and sea assets there would put that nation into jeopardy with the Crazies in the North. You are wrong on this and knowing that so many listen to your opinion, and despite what you say, meld their own with yours…this is NOT what we should be focusing on.  If you put as much energy into talking about the TN state police pulling people over and confiscating large amounts of money (2000 or more) on a supposition that the travelers are involved in moving drugs. And that the TSA is now on the highways pulling people over and doing the same. Or that the Democrats blocked a presentation by citizens to a congressional committee thereby preventing their budget presentation from being issued officially to the committee and the nation via a live broadcast.  And they did it through subversion and false information, and how NO ONE talked about this…Come on!  A unique building in South Korea, a good friend to the US, regardless of the image it evokes, is not important when considering what is happening in our own nation. I’m not saying it shouldn’t be reported on, but that there are more important happenings for you to speak on.

  • Anonymous

    altonj,
    No problem at all with noticing when you’re being mocked. In fact I’d say it’s healthy.
    What I disagree with is the “nuke ‘em ’til they glow” type attitude over a building. To me this is a distraction from the REAL issues we face as a country right now.
    The NDAA is crucial. It impacts everyone here in the U.S.A. and we need to be spending our efforts in defeating this before it becomes the law of the land.
    Yes, Lincoln suspended Habeus Corpus in some (not all) states during the Civil War, so there is a precedent. I submit that that was an entirely different matter.
    This bill would “potentially” abrogate the rights of U.S. citizens on the whim of the Federal government. Have you ever known the government NOT to use a power that “We, the people” have given to it?
    Email your representative and tell them to keep what little bit of the Constitution we have left.
    I don’t think the rest of the world thinks we’re idiots necessarily, I just think our enemies are taking full advantage of the knucklehead we have running the country and pulling out all the stops to get as much as they can until we can get rid of him. That includes enemies “both foreign and domestic”.

  • Nathan Stott

    I’ve lived in South Korea a couple of times for a total of 5 years,
    worked in South Korea for Samsung, have been married to a Korean woman
    for 15 years, and am fluent in Korean. I’m about 99% sure, knowing what
    I know of Koreans, that this was not intentionally made to represent
    9/11. The culture takes death very seriously and doesn’t make light of
    it. I’m not saying this out of bias since I have more of a love/hate
    relationship (more on the hate side as of late) with Korea, and I
    especially hated the toxic, overly aggressive business culture there.
    If this were North Korea or China, then I’d be 99% sure it’s a
    representation of 9/11. The only people hateful enough in South Korea
    to make an intentional representation of 9/11 are the leftists: violent
    protesters and union thugs that are the puppets of the North. However,
    unlike America, the South Korean left have not taken significant hold
    over executive positions in corporations, so the building contractor and
    architect firm were not likely doing this intentionally.  Furthermore, I can‘t imagine South Koreans and their families wanting to live in an
    apartment that looks like it’s in collapsing buildings. That would be
    the all-time dumbest marketing move ever, especially in South Korea.

  • http://tayloralexander.org tayloralexander

    This architectural firm designs buildings of breathless, boundless beauty. Their skills at cantilever construction methods is without equal. I am positive if their intent was to offend and make a statement as to the event of ten years ago, they could have taken a still from the moment the first tower began to fall and duplicated the image. They have the talents to, if they wished, to have cantilevered several hundred feet of units, shops and pools to mimic the smoke billowing at the roof and being carried away by the winds.The thin skinned people on this thread that depend on others for an opinion need to GET A LIFE and enjoy the beauty of the world.
    PS. Glenn, do you plan to start “Restoring Love” 6-1-2012?

  • http://tayloralexander.org tayloralexander

    If you have glanced at Glenn’s programming over the past few days, you would swear he is decompensating.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1273763631 Julie Dinkins-Borkowski

    I am disappointed in Glenn yet again.  You fall for the progressive manipulation way too often.  This was not south korea, but it was a firm that boasts of its progressive roots and global reach.  They obviously are doing this to turn enemies into South Korea. 

    For a man who did so much research to expose George Soros, you are missing the mark on this one.

    Glenn, I am an avid follower, but you are losing it.  I do not know if you have surrounded yourself with bad people out to destroy you or what, but this is not the first time you have gotten things entirely wrong.  You do not even see the progressive influence that has taken over on the Blaze.  Your weekend reporters are not your friend. 

    We can see it from the outside.  Why cant you???

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1273763631 Julie Dinkins-Borkowski

    Amen Kirsten

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1273763631 Julie Dinkins-Borkowski

    You know, my uncle Byron fought in the Korean war.  He fought to keep South Korea free from communism, and we won. His valor was never recognized until after he drank himself to death.  And now I can imagine he is spinning in his grave.  Glenn, you have fallen prey to the manipulation.  It is this kind of manipulation that will allow evil to set in and turn Americans against South Korea.  And this evil is systematically taking over the globe and Glenn Beck, you have just helped evil to succeed.  This was a firm that was not the government of South Korea.  It was architects with an evil progressive slant with a stated mission to take over the globe.  And Glenn you just helped them smack down every thing the USA and South Korea have worked hard to preserve.  Now a bunch of neocons are all following you like lemmings with their South Korean hate.  You must be proud.  SHAME ON YOU GLENN.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_M47N5R25CTUP6WCY74PHDZMN3M Russell

    get over your own self….you apparently didn’t lose any loved ones on that terrible day we all want to forget but can’t because unlike you, we have feelings.

  • Anonymous

    You have my sympathy. But you are just making the connection because you let Beck you lead you like a sheep. Sorry. But the connection between the building and 911 is a fabrication by someone who tries to harvest your sense of national pride. Again, the building it’s an awesome piece of art. Your paranoid censorship is designed to make you buy more GBTV… BTW, have you gotten the iPad app?!

  • Anonymous

    You got the metaphor all twisted in a bunch. The Emperor is Beck, not the building. Beck is not the kid who called it, please! He clearly has an empire, no innocence in his sight, no clarity in his perspective. He just makes money out of your silly butt.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jaron-Berry/100000698012391 Jaron Berry

    Actually, depending on you political view, this could be a good thing.  Without American Military stationed in South Korea the North can finally unify Korea.  With the Norths efficient methods of farming there will be enough food for stable population growth, and with actual useful land the North could ease up on its restrictions it has in place and eventually turn Korea into a nice place, probably much like Vietnam.  In case you haven’t been to Vietnam recently, its actually pretty nice, its clean and the people seem to be happy.

  • Scerita Dugas

    I’m sorry, I can’t believe they didn’t see the similarity to the World Trade Towers’ bombing pictures.  It is an afront to all those who lost their lives on 9/11 and their families.  I think we need to do something to let South Korea know that this is unacceptable.  Perhaps pulling out our military bases might be just the ticket.
    S. Dugas
    Sandy Springs, GA 30328

  • Anonymous

    aren’t we planning to pull our military out of other countries anyway ??

  • Anonymous

    you do know, i hope, that the building/cloud design is an ongoing trend in south korea —- have you heard about the restaurant on top of one of the existing towers that has the name “cloud” ??

  • thelionoftruth

       I believe this has gone too far! Get some proof of truth the only comments should be
    It’s Ugly, I like it! or I care less.

  • thelionoftruth

    What is the Plan and Purpose of God Creating Mankind?

  • thelionoftruth

    Oh! So should we place our faith on how you believe?

  • thelionoftruth

    Great Comment….Applause…applause!!!

  • http://tayloralexander.org tayloralexander

    Glenn titled a book about what you’re attempting to do

  • Anonymous

    you replied to my comment — was that your intent ??

  • http://tayloralexander.org tayloralexander

    Think about it

  • http://tayloralexander.org tayloralexander

    Makes for a dull thread

  • Anonymous

    hard to do that when you don’t specify what part of the comment you are referring to.

  • Anonymous

    sometimes it is best to be clear and concise as to your point, especially when dealing with older retired people such as myself.

  • thelionoftruth

       It actually has a sweet and savory smell of incense offered to God!
    Called Prayer! You should try it!

  • http://tayloralexander.org tayloralexander

    Over two hours ago you posted your intent or goal to Dandee. You have continued to reinforce that position. A noble attempt. Now if you have followed my posts, you would see a similar position. But I feel “Arguing with Idiots” to be one of Glenn’s better and more humorous works, to the abstract point. I feel you have an excellent understanding of the Korean people’s culture.

  • Ryan Frederick

    i don’t it is uglist thing i seen.

  • Ryan Frederick

    it just plain ugly. what were they even thinking.

  • thelionoftruth

    Rebecca Ehhh! that’s kinda suggestive of Progressive-ism Isn’t it?

  • Anonymous

    that is partly because of my exposure to the korean people, augmented by the fact that my son has been there the past 3 years, teaching english.

  • http://www.facebook.com/spencerbrockbank Spencer Brockbank

    If you build any two vertical buildings next to each other, anywhere in the world, you’re an inhuman pig. Makes total sense……

  • Anonymous

    also, it is my personal philosophy that when i feel strongly about something, i try to be consistent and persistent in expressing that belief, backed, whenever possible, by information not provided by the original article or media source.

  • thelionoftruth

    I’m sure you will say that to Jesus when and if you
    meet him! Maybe just maybe he will give you a time to
    change or explain that.

  • thelionoftruth

       Hey Ryan! Good post!

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure Move-On is paying you a lot of money to rant about clouds.  No one cares – if it quacks like a duck –

  • http://tayloralexander.org tayloralexander

    There ya go. The country makes one appreciate being from the US. The people are ingenious, family oriented, and like many cultures, have a few bad apples that the news media likes to exploit. When I was there I had over 50 Korean nationals working for and with me. But that was a long time ago. Both mentally and physically they are a determined, beautiful people. In Viet Nam, their forces didn’t take any crap. They can be a formidible foe. More and more people lack personal responsibility and look to place blame on everything around them to reinforce their fractured low self-esteem. As I said earlier, if Glenn had made positive comments about this building then many responding would be in support of the structure. That is why you see these narrow posts without intellectual merit 

  • Anonymous

    i find it intriguing how two people can look at a work of art —- one person sees it as ugly, and the other likes it —- what does that say about the person who can only see the unpleasant side of everything ??

  • http://tayloralexander.org tayloralexander

    Another excellent point

  • Anonymous

    no offense, but some of your comments don’t seem exactly christian to me.

  • Anonymous

    The supposed clouds would still make more sense on top because these look more like smoke (and mirrors.)  You can still have your outside living spaces and sunlight but not in the middle of the building where few clouds would even form. 

  • thelionoftruth

       It all depends on how you describe Christian?

  • http://tayloralexander.org tayloralexander

    Watch out,,, soon the government will restrict building heigths to be no taller that they are wide so as not to offend those with penis envy

  • Ryan Frederick

    it just not my taste. i don’t even know how it’s even going to stand. i don’t see the unpleansant side of things first of all. i also would have to know of the artist intent of it before i can call the thing slaming 9/11.

  • Anonymous

    well, if you are making judgments about someone of whom you have no specific knowledge, that is not very christian.

  • Anonymous

    I want to hear about the creator! Give it to me!

  • thelionoftruth

    That’s Logical! I wish were that smart! Teach me O Great One!

  • Ryan Frederick

    thats how i feel. i don’t even see how they can even make i stand. i can see that thing in the middle being like a sail in a strong wind i hope they make it safe. like i told another guy i have to know the artist and were he stands on issues before i can say he is slaming 9/11.

  • Anonymous

    if you don’t know the designer’s intent, then why are you jumping to the conclusion that it’s a slam against what happened on 911 ??

  • thelionoftruth

    Who have I judged?! I’ll take it back!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Charles-Lancaster/730809201 Charles Lancaster

    tell me that your first glance at this pic doesn’t remind you of 9/1 and tell me the s Koreans havent seen all the video and Pics of 9/11 as it happened and sfterwards, they knew, we’re pissed

  • Anonymous

    tayloralexander, for one.

  • http://tayloralexander.org tayloralexander

    We can appreciate or choose not to appreciate something. But what has been proven time and again, those that fail to find beauty in simple form and lash out in an ignorant attempt to influence others show their narrow and uninformed egocentric view of their environment. They fail to have a positive effect on others and display behaviors reflecting their limited knowledge and world view. The building is interesting and a great improvement over the thousands of slab-sided high-rises throughout the country

  • Anonymous

    do you know anything at all about the culture of the south koreans ?? —- apparently not. —- are you aware there is a restaurant at the top of an existing tower called “clouds” ?? —– this whole “cloud” thing is an ongoing architectural trend.

  • thelionoftruth

    kingwassabi You know my positions from the other posts Do you need my repeating?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Charles-Lancaster/730809201 Charles Lancaster

    I might expect to see a building like this in iran……yes I used a small i

  • Anonymous

    btw —- i am about as far away from the liberal side of the spectrum as one can get.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cowfy-Kaufman/1199851080 Cowfy Kaufman

    i have my ears full of liberals bs about how beck is off the short end.i agree with glenn about 99% of the time.if there is arab money in this building,lets find out.then we can yell.but this is just a bit to soon.the south koreans are our allies.hello!

  • thelionoftruth

    I’m sorry! There is no judgement on tayloralexander.
    Where do you get that?

  • Anonymous

    that is possible, but i’m unsure how it would affect the solar collectors.

  • http://tayloralexander.org tayloralexander

    Well, go to the designer’s website and expand you mind.

  • Anonymous

    Oh.You’re right.

  • Anonymous

    I love my country and have deep undying respect for those who lost loved ones on 9/11.Having said this, I really like this design and believe the simularity is purely coincidental. I saw a close up conceptual view of the “clowd” area that conects the two buildings. There are balconies with grass and trees. All in all a great design.

    As much as we complain about the liberal dems wearing their fealings on there sleeves let us not be guilty of doing  the same, please!

  • thelionoftruth

    First of all, I am not all knowing.  I am not a speaker in my own words and I argue not
    against other religious views. But I am a revealed messenger of God’s truth.
    I can be known as a pastor, But I am not! For the words that I strive to use is not based
    on mens knowledge. I do not make connections to mans sports, I don’t relate to mans
    politics, and I certainly do not use God, in any way but to preach God’s Plan and God’s
    Purpose, for His Created Mankind to directly follow only His! Way to be accepted into His
    reality Kingdom.
    Mankind
    Through out the ages of history has corrupted His Word. Especially all
    churches of Christendom, that what is accepted is truth, is the serpent
    Lie! From Genesis, and has been a deceit since time began.

       God is now awakening us to the real truthful reasons of why His creature beings that have
    gone completely to the Serpent side, and if those that stay on the serpent’s side will
    Perish
    (Exist no more),  But those that follow God’s real! Truth and turn from
    the serpent’s Lie! Those believers will have, and gain God’s wisdom in
    the knowledge of God through God’s Holy Spirit, That was Given to His
    Son Jesus Christ to communicate to those that ask sincerely in prayer
    though Jesus Christ name.
    Then and only then Will Yahweh God accept
    His Believers! We will be led to be as Kings and Priest to help rule His
    Kingdom here on His Created Eternal Earth.
    Your mindset has to be corrected or changed from Christendom (The Serpent Lie!)
    To Yahweh’s Exclusive Truth (God’s Reality) Or pass on to nothingness (Dark)
    These Evangelist use mens experience to unknowingly, or knowingly! Deceive GOD’S REAL TRUTH!

    Take
    it, or leave this. What? Man! Knows God’s Real Truth? But Only Jesus
    Christ through Yahweh’s Holy Spirit is Truth given. Jesus is NOT GOD!
    Jesus was, and always will. Be!
    THE SON! OF GOD! The First! Immortalized MAN!
    You
    do realize! The Perfect Man Jesus! Has Opened The Door for those that
    strive to be like Jesus. For all obeying men to enter into a reality of
    Yahweh’s Forever Kingdom! Don’t you? 

  • Shalom

    You see no similarity to WTC and 911?

  • Anonymous

    that is all well and fine —- now….. what is your opinion of the building design ??

  • thelionoftruth

    The Truth in all things must be known and proved!

  • Anonymous

    does that mean you don’t support those who would rush to judgment against the designer of this building ??

  • Anonymous

    All I can say is the first thing I thought of when I saw the building was 9/11.  Yeah, maybe here in America a lot of us went right to that thought…I don’t know how you could look at that and not think of anything else!  And sorry, but I hope we don’t ever get over that day. It would be a shame.  Too many lives lost and affected by that horrible act of terrorism against our country. 
    And I don’t think we need to “get over ourselves a little bit.”  What an immature and unsympathetic thing to say!

  • Terry Bishop

    Are all you nay-sayers retarded? Of course it is a slam on 9-11. Get your heads out of the sand. Nobody designs something like that by accident!

  • http://tayloralexander.org tayloralexander

    This architectural firm designs buildings of breathless, boundless beauty. Their skills at cantilever construction methods is without equal. I am positive if their intent was to offend and make a statement as to the event of ten years ago, they could have taken a still from the moment the first tower began to fall and duplicated the image. They have the talents to, if they wished, to have cantilevered several hundred feet of units, shops and pools to mimic the smoke billowing at the roof and being carried away by the winds.The thin skinned people on this thread that depend on others for an opinion need to GET A LIFE and enjoy the beauty of the world.PS. Glenn, do you plan to start “Restoring Love” after 6-1-2012?

  • Ryan Frederick

    i didn’t i said i have to know his intent before i can say it was slaming 9/11. i didn’t say it was.

  • http://tayloralexander.org tayloralexander

    Hey Ron,There ya go wading into another’s gibberish again. Been real but I gotta get back to work. Tell your son not to drink too much traditional Makgeolli over the Christmas season. Looks like the after dinner concrete thinkers are surfacing. Be back in an hour.

  • Anonymous

    so…. you are prepared to make that judgment without looking at the other sketches, or other existing building designs in that city ?? —- and of course, without knowing what is in the mind of the designer.

  • Ryan Frederick

    do you know who it is?

  • Anonymous

    i’ll likely still be here —- btw, i am at work, and that’s the only time i’m online.

  • thelionoftruth

       Ah! I see you are a fiction novelist tayloralexander  I would be pleased to read one one of your novels!

  • Anonymous

    maybe we should design a building like a train exploding and tell spain to get over thier bad selves but we have a little more class than that now dont we!

  • Anonymous

    Roger you have shown yourself to be an idiot again.  Only you can compare 911 to child molesting.  Shows whats really on your mind pin head!

  • thelionoftruth

    I do not support anything unless I had the evidence.

  • Anonymous

    how do you support something which requires faith, then ??

  • http://tayloralexander.org tayloralexander

    Amazon.com  Fair warning… much more spicy than the metaphorical trysts in the Bible.

  • thelionoftruth

    God’s Holy Spirit through Jesus Christ is my evidence! Are you seeking God?

  • Anonymous

    i attended bethel college in st paul, mn — if that gives you a hint.

  • thelionoftruth

    You know something told me that! LOL   Thanks TA

  • Ryan Frederick

    your right.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1023142788 Margaret Hosty

    The fact that we, as Americans, see this as a 9/11 reference does not make it so, because all architecture is not meant to act as a Rorschach test on our psyches; truthfully, the first thing I thought when I saw the image is NOT the terrorist attack on our soil, but the more general notion that skyscrapers are buildings with their tops in the clouds, thus to accentuate the height of the building, the “clouds” are mid-point, to make it appear as though the building is miles above the clouds. People, RELAX. This building had been designed for Koreans, who do NOT have our emotional attachment to the 9/11 attacks, and clouds have been a feature of Asian aesthetics and art for CENTURIES.  It is not always about US, or, rather, about U.S. 

  • Anonymous

    Thank you to GlennBeck.com for including that this building is being erected in SOUTH Korea.  FOX news conveniently left that out.  I thought that it was peculiar that it was reported to be in “Korea” only because if it were in North Korea, they surely would have said it.  When I logged onto GBTV, I found my suspicions were confirmed!  Why won’t FOX say it?

  • Anonymous

    that is exactly what i’ve been trying to say —- thank you.

  • Anonymous

    more to the point, why doesn’t the media show the other sketches ??

  • Anonymous

    of course, but only because the media pushed that thought into my head —- then i got serious and went to the website and looked at the other sketches, and i changed my mind.

  • thelionoftruth

       Did you ever stop to think this may be a deterrence of other news that the media don’t
    want we the people to know!

  • Anonymous

    of course —- the media does that frequently. —- it’s called distracting from the main issue. —- some people on comment threads like to do the same thing.

  • Ryan Frederick

    and i seen evidence before i can to know Christ one reasion i am a Christian. not going to share what that was but it open my eyes. hay buddy tell me what you think of these to videos http://youtu.be/AqD_QvmDjb4 http://youtu.be/6VeawfXAgzQ something to think about.

  • thelionoftruth

      I also have evidence of those post, so I believe that to be
    absolutely true! Sometimes for good reasons but mostly for
    evil!

  • Anonymous

    I presume that if the building is “still on track for construction”, that they have made up their minds on the design that they plan to use.  More spin.

  • Anonymous

    so…. what happens if two people have “evidence”, and do not reach the same conclusion ??

  • thelionoftruth

    Well enough building talk for one night. Hope you all settle your differences! And I ask that you
    all consider This!

     You know! In all the intellect that we as mankind learned, the universities that teach against
    God.
    Are the most harmful in the light of our lives, right now it is most
    important to know that the more of this Intellectual darkness exists the
    more adversarial enemies in God’s believing army of truth, that will
    break the thoughts of those that think they are intellectually teaching
    those that are in error of bringing God to the forefront. Thus causing
    an evil effect to run their lives without God as their guiding force to
    Mans intelligence and will always fail! 

       You see! God being Mankind’s Creator! Created the Word also! As we! his believers know it.
    Only God’s Word! Is God’s Truth!

    It is Mankind that corrupted Our Creator’s Word! And Man learned this corruption from the first
    liar,
    by the devilish serpent in the beginning. Therefore This! was the
    spreading yeast that Jesus talks of to his learning disciples. The Lie!
    is the seed of a spreading deceitful truth, and when taught in this way,
    people believe this corrupted deceitful (Lie!) As Truth! And guess
    what! Because
    people believe this false truth, as truth. The people then! fights! God’s real! Truth. and become
    the adversarial believer of the first (Lie) or Liar that grew from the! Beginning!

    So, the question is to you! Is, do you understand what is taught you as God’s Truth! Or Man’s (Lie)?
    Adversary: is the Word for Satan! Did you know that! The Knowledge of God teaches us this.
    Understanding our Creators Knowledge, frees up our false knowledge and leads us eternally
    to be! with God.
    Let only those that see this, understand it’s TRUTH!

    The false, and non believer’s default themselves to a certain non existence!
    Our
    Minds Should Meditate on this for a change in the development of this
    possible reality. You have the power to change to God’s truth, and is
    not easy, but the easy way is letting it go by you and not acting on
    God’s true offer to come to His Reason of true plan and purpose for us
    as His! Created beings, for His righteous gift to live within His
    eternal reality with Him.
    Your Messenge

  • http://tayloralexander.org tayloralexander

    Because they want to sensationalize the news not report the news.
    Because they want to influence our thoughts; not report all the facts.
    Because they want to influence our opinion not allow us to reach a reasonable conclusion.
    Because they believe we cannot think and require their insight.

  • Anonymous

    and, of course, you are correct.

  • Anonymous

    it’s too bad more people cannot react to a piece of news with intellect rather than emotion.

  • Anonymous

    I believe that these buildings are obviously and deliberately offensive.  I’m not sure why S. Korea would want to offend America but, there can be no doubt what this architecture represents.  I also think that there is not much that we could, or should do about it except for those of us whom it offends to express that feeling.  If there is overwhelming distaste expressed and they still construct it, do as Glenn says and pull our bases out.  We’ve been there long enough anyhow. 

  • thelionoftruth

      They hopefully go their way in peace! or One is peaceful and the other destructive
    in nature.

  • Anonymous

    i agree with glenn on most issues, but if that is his feeling in this situation, then i must respectfully disagree.

  • thelionoftruth

    Are you talking about the Elitist?!  Cum-on! Let’s fight-emmm

  • Anonymous

    But surely a blog poster with the name “ronpal”, which I assume shows some allegiance to Ron Paul, would agree that we should pull our troops and bases out of South Korea (regardless of the building) just as Glenn says, wouldn’t he?…

  • Anonymous

    actually ronpal is my name.

  • Anonymous

    sad, but true —- i don’t even care much for ron paul.

  • Anonymous

    My appologies.  I jumped to conclusions.  Do you agree?

  • Anonymous

    it happens to me a lot —- don’t worry about it.

  • Anonymous

    i’ve even had people try to make campaign contributions at my store.

  • Anonymous

    i don’t believe in turning away from an ally —- unless i was pretty sure they could defend themselves.

  • Anonymous

    and if i did pull out, it wouldn’t be for something as silly as this issue is.

  • Anonymous

    Agreed.  But, could they honestly say that this thing doesn’t look EXACTLY like the WTC getting hit?  I mean the buildings are at the same angle from one another and everything!  If they are our allies, they should take into account the fact that many people will find this offensive and rethink their plan.

  • Anonymous

    have you looked at the other sketches ??

  • Anonymous

    these two towers are part of a line of towers.

  • Anonymous

    makes a big difference if you examine it in context.

  • Anonymous

    Agreed again.  But S. Korea can defend themselves at this point.  We should defend our own borders.  I say if they build this thing, we don’t even mention it again and make a diplomatic exit!

  • Anonymous

    if that is true, then i have no problem removing our troops from there, or anywhere else they are not really doing much of anything.

  • Anonymous

    as long as we maintain the alliance, the troops are not very relevant.

  • Anonymous

    No, sorry.  I haven’t seen the other sketches.  You’re right, the context is important and just as the “South” part of South Korea was omitted, ideas like this one are spun to bend the truth!  Still, its appearence IS offensive… at least to me it is.

  • Anonymous

    i was concerned about it at first also, until i looked at the other sketches and did some research regarding existing structures and how their culture relates to buildings and clouds.

  • Anonymous

    as far as i’m concerned , the media blew their credibility on this one by not mentioning either the other sketches, or the cultural influence in the designs.

  • Anonymous

    This topic has been up over a day now, and few seem to have received a picogram of enlightenment..  No one’s going to leave anyplace.  More offensive crap has occurred in this country as a result of  9/11 that most here are not firing even one single neuron over. And every bit of that crap is being orchestrated by politicians who make the greatest offense by hiding behind the skirts of 9/11 to justify legislating us all into a 1984 tyranny.  Wake up and smell the caca folks!

  • Anonymous

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  • Anonymous

    I would like to know how many Koreans were  killed on 9/11 and hear some of their family and friends’ responses to this  duplication of our  ground 0 buildings. Too bad it was not these architects themselves who were trapped . Their disrespect for all the murdered and injured would have been avoided!

  • Anonymous

    intriguing perspective —- of course, it appears you ignored the fact that the designers are NOT from south korea.

  • Anonymous

    i am fairly certain you also have not bothered to look at any of the other sketches, or do any research on existing south korea architectural trends.

  • thelionoftruth

    This film is on the path to God’s kingdom but in some places Paul goes off path Does he know about http://www.thisisyourbible.com I will try and assist him there.

    He sounds fervent and knows about the power of Yahweh! I would like to contact paul if I could.

    Please People look at this film you will get a picture of the power of our Creator. Thanks Ryan Keep the Faith.

  • Anonymous

    btw —- the answer is 28.

  • http://tayloralexander.org tayloralexander

    Rim shot

  • http://tayloralexander.org tayloralexander

    Rim shot

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MQPO5RYQSN4WOLYM5TYSYNDLZE Edna Wilwayco-thomas

    NO SENSIBIITY AT ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sherri-Danielson/100000567224735 Sherri Danielson

    I don’t believe a word of it.  They knew exactly what these buildings would look like.  They ARE designers/builders aren’t they?  Come on

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sherri-Danielson/100000567224735 Sherri Danielson

    I’m getting a little tired of the whole issue.

  • Ryan Frederick

    i watch some videos on youtube and i think he does. your right there are some places were he does go off path. even then it is a from a human point of view of the power of Yahweh. the God that made things like black holes to stars would have more power than we can inmagen. we can try to put it into words but we just can’t.

  • Ryan Frederick

    thank you.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/William-Henry/1009472057 William Henry

    At least there isn’t a pentagon shaped building on it’s side.

  • Anonymous

    if it wasn’t for the media always trying to provoke controversy, and distract us from more important issues, we probably wouldn’t have heard about this until after the buildings were completed.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OB3VTIIIGZMKZSG5IBW7RNDATY tee21529

    Awwww!!! What a F****** shame if we knocked it down with our butt kickin military planes then blew up the borders so North and South Korea would be on country again.

  • Anonymous

    This building is an insult to the American people.  It isn’t a cool design…it looks just like they wanted it to look…like the Twin Towers in NY on 9-11.  Obama’s going around the world giving permission to all these countries to mock America.  You can thank him.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mary.t.delbuono Mary Theresa Del Buono

    Oh how creepy…what is up with this?  At least they should have used different window assembly…if they did not want to offend…like a different color…nope not a good thing…maybe 25 years from now…or is this just a photo shop hoax…is it built already…I have to read article again…

  • Ryan Frederick

    looks better up close and the more i look at it the more i think it has nothing to do with 9/11. still not how i would have done it but thats me.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mary.t.delbuono Mary Theresa Del Buono

    I don’t like the idea of a tall building with rooms jutting out like that….just too anti gravity to me…I don’t know about it…must be a hoax…how down the road will they fix this thing when wind and rain dammage the facade…???  just wondering…pitting and birds…knocking into it…just don’t like it…I have seen jutting buildings but they always were on the 2 or 3rd floor of a home not a tall building like that…

  • Anonymous

    well….. that’s why some people are structural engineers, and other people live in their creations.

  • Anonymous

    personally, i wouldn’t live in a tall building, but as you probably read, these will be like luxury condos, so if it falls down, a lot of wealthy people will die, and that’ll make the OCW people happy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/j.richter77 Jenny Richter

    I think it is cool… And since it appears to be inadvertant… why not simply adjust it… maybe put  3 of those cloud link thingys across? Then it will house more people anyway.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robin-Lee-Friess/1568752612 Robin Lee Friess

    Hey, maybe, just MAYBE, it’s South Korea’s way of never forgetting what was done to U.S. Aren’t they still our friend? Or have we decided to forget 9/11 ourselves and want to be touchy about it? Oh, yeah, like we’re ashamed of it and are blaming ourselves for being the victim. I get it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C6AAO4YXWNA2KQ2ORAH7QWLZAM One_Man_Army

    Ryan, I am actually not with Beck on this matter, either, though I can definitely see how this building can lead to images of 9/11.  The way I see it is that even if a building like this were made with 9/11 in mind, which apparently isn’t the case but if it were, maybe it would be built as a memorial for the lives lost on 9/11 and not really as a memorial for the attack itself.  In such a case as memorializing those lives lost, it would actually be a show of respect for victims of 9/11.  Just my input.  Though I very well am in the minority there.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001078346459 Michele Michaels

    This is outrageously offensive! Of course this is a depiction of the twin towers exploding. How dare they even consider building this insult!

  • Anonymous

    It is without a doubt designed to look like the trade
    centers under attack. While quite a marvel architecturally with so many
    negative feelings, it seems like a very bad idea.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001078346459 Michele Michaels

    You sir are an idiot! We were purposely and brutally attacked that day. 3000 dead! Children no longer have a mom or dad. Someone sent a loved one off to work that day and they never returned. Maybe you should have alittl more respect for life and respect for those lost. You need to get over yourself.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001078346459 Michele Michaels

    Obviously, you either were not alive when this happened or you were to young to remember the horror of that day. Over reacting? I think not. If this does not insult you, then I feel bad for you, you most likely have no sense of caring for anyone else but yourself. How sad.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1137436744 Lisa Weinmaster Glauner

    Disgusting!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001078346459 Michele Michaels

    Your analogy is idiotic! Real people died horrible deaths. Real pain was felt! People burned to death were crushed to death and then vaporized. Families all over the world have an unfilled hole in their lives now. You sir are a cerified jerk!

  • szara

    Moron liberals cry foul everytime someone says anything in the name of being sensitive to other people’s FEELINGS!  Yet when it comes to the true feelings of Americans regarding America, hey anything goes.

    Liberalism is an incurable sickness!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Blaine-Melville/100003062640902 Blaine Melville

    maybe the cloud cover  explosive look is one way not to forget what really happened on that 9/11 day. Lets see Obama wonder aruond smiling and shaking voters hands in the shadow of those buildings like he did at the 9/11 memorial opening. He used both 9/11 mem &the event @ the pentagon as photo ops.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kathleen-Pedersen/100000821446540 Kathleen Pedersen

    Actually it’s very unattractive.  I wouldn’t want to be sitting in any of those extensions.  UGH! 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kathleen-Pedersen/100000821446540 Kathleen Pedersen

    get over it!   Obviously you weren’t in that building when it went down but other people were and loved one’s were lost.  Explain how to get over that. They don’t need a reminder.  Am glad it’s not being built in the USA.

  • Ryan Frederick

    look up the guys who are building it. their towers are not even the same hight. you can see what he is talking about but a closer look and the building itself don’t look the tiwn towers.

  • Anonymous

    I will not make The United States of America out to be just some country in the world.We are “thee” number one superpower,supercountry,most awesome place on the face of the earth and I will not change the way I feel about that nor should any other American.I don’t want to be mocked in any way shape or form,I will not get over myself as an American and if you think living somewhere else would be better then high tail it on out of here and go live there so real American citizens can carry on the the greatness of this country.I am getting real tired of lazy attitudes about our nation that it is time to give up being the best.I am not talking about pride here,that is against what God teaches.I am talking about God and the fact that He gave us this country to make it great and for us to live a good life and worship Him in freedom.I am sure He does not want us to give up on it or Him,so get up,shut up and get to work on being the best in the world.Amen!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Greg-Trail/100002463668971 Greg Trail

    I generally like to believe in the goodness of people, and such I’d like to believe that this was truly unintentional.  But the similarities between this and the world trade center are too great for me to actually believe this.
     
    If 9/11 had never happened, I actually think this would be a really cool design for a building.  I might even want to live there… but when I look at this, I immediately see 9/11, and that’s not an image I want to see.
     
    For the record, I didn’t lose anyone in 9/11- in fact I was only in 2nd grade so I hardly remember it.  However, 9/11 was by far the most historic event in my lifetime, and I don’t want a building that reminds me of it.

  • Anonymous

    I am for God and country like the next guy but what does God have to do with this? Why is it Americas job to police the world? You have a government that just past a bill giving military the power to hold US citizens without a trial and indefinately. A small arms treaty signed so they can go door to door and collect our guns. A government run and power brokered by non elected officials who would sell their mothers for a dollar. A socialist president driving this country into the ground, shitting on our constitution as if it does not matter and disregarding completely the core values of this country we have endeared for centuries as the very fabric of our society. Turn your head and focus inward and join together. The real tragedy is happening now!!!! in your own country!!!!!! WAKE UP EVERYBODY. So if you want to bring God into it then for Gods sake wake up!!!!

  • Anonymous

    The apology is total BS…don’t piss on my pants and tell me it’s raining

  • Anonymous

    Please be cognizant of the fact that it was us American settlers that rubbed out the Indian nations of our great country, (an epic Government sanctioned genocide campaign) that saddens me everytime I see a freaking Hollywood film glorifying the wiping out of the indigenous people who settled this great land centuries before white settlers started arriving in their droves from Europe.

    That did not stop Hollywood making hundreds of films glorifying the genocide and programming all of us and the rest of the world for that matter that it was justifiable
    because at the time they thought the indigenous people were savages…… Fact is the European settlers;
    our forefathers were the freaking savages…..

    So BEFORE WE CONDEM another nation or architect for creating something that happens according to our sensitivities, to resemble a tragedy that is fresh in our minds, let’s get those IDIOT film makers in Hollywood and string them up for obfuscating the real truth and travesties of one of the biggest Genocides ever carried out in recorded history.

    We are all GUILTY of having ignored the EVIL of our own history….. so why should we expect others to care about what we think of what they think…..It is time to MOVE ON.

    We need to be more mature and adopt the LIVE and LET LIVE policy…. simply because we are not the centre of the Universe and certainly not as pure of heart as we think we are….. basically if it was not for Hollywood and their continual brainwashing, we would probably be considered the most EVIL nation in all recorded history……

    After all we are the ONLY nation to have ever used the Nuclear Bomb in anger and performed a mass genocide with impunity…..

     

  • Anonymous

    evidence? just look at it… 

  • Anonymous

    this is not about pedophilia. young child’s Firefighter father gets blown to bits saving  others. Young child grows up and doesn’t have his or her daddy for the rest of his life. Young child sees the building… and says WHY? THATS ENOUGH right there. If you think this isn’t a mockery, perhaps you should go live outside the USA

  • Anonymous

    I read the first few comments and just say, well, this is what Americans have turned into. Turning the cheek. Let me as you all something? Some of you that said you had loss on 9/11 too. If you lost your Dad at age 13, now age 23, then come on here see this building, see this blog, and see the reactions of your neighbors and fellow Americans, how would you feel? You are 23 trying to get on with your life without your Dad, your Mom who just went to work that day. For those of you who didn’t lose sleep at night over this, She did. He did. The wife did. The families did. Any one who lost someone that day LOST. and you want us to “GET OVER IT”???? turn the cheek? Hmm, I guess if we turned our cheeks, then what would have happened with the Revolutionary war? the Civil War? all the things that brought us freedom and equality? Spaniards??? We teach our kids in school about those dark days.. even Chernobyl. All of our children are taught history of our world, not just America. So IN RETURN, after we allied and have bases there, protecting their residents, and IF you were that young child now 23, or wife who lost her husband that day, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL? Strikingly pissed? I WOULD. I Helped network support groups for wives on 9/11. I heard the pain and suffering. I didn’t lose a husband, but I’m married to a firefighter for nearly 20 years and have lost many nights of sleep at night after the phone rings b/c people can’t pay a tax of 3.00 a month to protect our men more and the phone rings after he’s already there that they need more firemen to fight a blaze that is now a 4-alarm fire..your heart pounds, you don’t sleep, you hop on text and ask other wives where is it? which company went in first?? The same feelings that those women did that day on 9/11. Now we have brown outs, shut downs, lay offs, b/c of turning cheeks and lumping union w/ other crappy money hungry ones, putting our firefighters police officers and TEACHERS on the front lines.. mixing government with civil and public service.. commercials that no one understands the issues and just votes b/c they are left and right. And you talk about how we take things too far???????? let me ask you this… when the guy hopped on Flight 93 headed for the WHITE HOUSE that Obama lives in now, Did he take things TOO FAR????? did the 3 men who lost their lives that made the plane crash into PA to protect our monument and historical building and president of the US Take it TOO FAR???? 

    So I have one thing left to say, this is OBVIOUS. this isn’t somewhat. This isn’t resembling. THIS IS OBVIOUS. THIS IS TOTAL BS. and for you all to just give an argument to give one to condone actions of those mocking the innocent thousands of Americans that died that day and the thousands that died after that from the crap left behind and working on that site, or from broken hearts that lost sleep at night when you didn’t, just watch the video of 9/11 again, imagine it your mother in there, your father, your sister son brother daughter niece nephew.. so you can get a simple pinch of the arm affect of what these families went through and LOST PLENTY OF SLEEP OVER. YOU SIR, who says he lost many and condone this action, should leave the US. You have no business here and your freedom of speech has turned into puke vulgar coming out of your mouth. HARSH? you don’t know what harsh is. You don’t have a clue… you sit in your comfy warm clothes on your comfy couch with your comfy freedom, and haven’t got a clue. For the rest of you quoting Spaniards and other BS?? SHAME ON YOU. SHAME ON YOU FOR blasting on the people who are disgusted with this BLATENT MOCKERY. I guess Liberty and “JUSTICE FOR ALL” doesn’t apply anymore.

    And, OF COURSE it’s residential. How convenient. 

  • Eddis Wakefield

    Having lived and worked with Koreans during my two tours in Korea, I found them to be a very nice, polite, respectful people with a deep devotion to family. I could not imagine anyone would intentionally design anything for the sole purpose of disrespecting the United States. That isn’t to say that there aren’t a few exceptions to the rule but they would clearly be in the minority. I sincerely believe the MVRDV statements made in it’s apology.

    It’s o.k. to feel wounded and hurt. It’s certainly o.k. to speak out when something like this has, from our perspective, a profound impact upon us. I just think that it’s stupid and extremely counterproductive to be attacking each other over something neither party had any control over.

    Yes, the building’s design is a grim reminder of a very painful day. If not for that, we would all think it was a neat design. MVRDV thought just that. Upon realizing that emotional impact, an apology was issued. (Keep in mind that they didn’t have to apologize at all.)

    Please keep in mind that the 9/11 attacks didn’t emotionally impact the rest of the world as it did us.

  • Anonymous

    THERE APOLOGY SHOULD BE REDESIGN. END OF STORY.

  • Anonymous

    The 9/11 attacks impacted the entire world of allies that work with us… did you see what  happened to our stock market then??? look up the numbers of people who died that weren’t US residents. 

  • Anonymous

    This design was clearly intentional. This is like building a shopping center that looks like the entrance to Auschwitz, or a skyscraper that resembles the mushroom cloud over Hiroshima. It’s extremely offensive.

  • Anonymous

    By the logic of some, I being 1/4 American Indian should hate the 3/4 European part of me and go out in the back yard with a gun and blow 3/4s of my head off.

    If there were the tail of a plane sticking out of the sudo cloud part of the buildings then you can get insulted, but since not, you and Glenn Beck need to grow up.

  • http://twitter.com/fawnday Fawn Macnamera

    It’s a unique and really col design. To anyone who thinks it looks like the WTC and 9/11 it proves they are American. Betcha nobody else has had that story and those pics drummed into their heads the way Americans have. If S.Korea wants to build this let them.

  • Anonymous

    Remember how brother beck used to slam the wives and widows of those who died on 9-11. brother becks hypocritical ideology is simply astounding and arrogant in its depth. Perhaps the most evil man alive today..

  • Anonymous

    If there’s voodoo in this design, it would to deflect a FUTURE “9/11-like” attack to that particular building.  As if saying, “…why would someone fly a craft in here when it already looks like it’s been distorted?”  Maybe potential terrorists will gravitate towards other buildings, like home burglers ignoring houses with alarm systems in favor of manageable targets.

  • Anonymous

    If there’s voodoo in this design, it would to deflect a FUTURE “9/11-like” attack to that particular building.  As if saying, “…why would someone fly a craft in here when it already looks like it’s been distorted?”  Maybe potential terrorists will gravitate towards other buildings, like home burglers ignoring houses with alarm systems in favor of manageable targets.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Wolf/100000657974002 Steven Wolf

    If anything, it will help some of them to remember that
    we are all western cultures and the enemy’s of our friends are our enemies
    also.. South Korea is one of our best eastern allies.. They have thrived by
    basing their nation on our models.. I wouldn’t assume that they purposely meant
    to ‘insult’ Americans.. In fact, that’s almost absurd.. Here in Atlanta, we
    have a large South Korean population and as a group, they purchased a prominent
    digital billboard for many months that ‘thanked Americans for all the sacrifices
    they bore for their freedom’.. I’ve never in my life seen any other attempt by
    any other group to thank America.. It was very touching..

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000866038548 Ed Román

    it is truly amazing how everything we see, touch, smell or taste offends people because they see, touch, smell or taste relates to something that happened will bother or rub them the wrong way. we are to the point of ridiculousness. the design has nothing to do with 9/11 so what if your brain thinks it is similar. i do not and will not forgive those that attacked our country but do not come here and try to change it based on what your cultural background is. this is how american are and if you do not like it go back to where you came from. we did not invite you you came on your free will. if something bothers you about america find another country to go to a see if they will put up with your junk.    

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000866038548 Ed Román

    why? if this building were in Japan it would make sense. you have a country the size of California with almost the population of the US combined. i think we are taking it to a dimension way beyond the reason. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jacob-Rodriguez/177600911 Jacob Rodriguez

    People are so stupid and hurtful!! You honestly think that this designer drew this up solely based on out side space and what not!! If that were the case, then the WHOLE BUILDING would have that design.. Its not Overreacting when you point out truth… You are Lying to yourself if you think anything else different.. now, i’m not saying to Retaliate to this Man’s hatred of MY GREAT NATION, but I for one will not stand by and say something is “blue” when it is RED!!! Open your eys America!!.. and as far as the Train bombing in Spain.. I DONT SEE AMERICANS building an Elevated Apartment Complex that resembles that Tragedy.
    -Jacob Rodriguez

  • Anonymous

    South Korea has always had a good relationship with the US.  I think some of us are being a bit too sensitive.  Like others here, I take them at their word.

  • Anonymous

    Object to ths Korean building which has some similarities to the Twin Towers and very substantial differences such that they would never be confused I think is just carrying to the ridiculous level. Should we stop building identical cars to the one which crashed and Killed a gathering  of spectators?

  • Robert Hope

    I’m not from the US and when I first looked at this building I didn’t think about 9/11 at all. As it was designed by Dutch architects to be built in South Korea, I doubt offence or parallels to the World Trade Centre was intended.

    I think it looks quite quirky and cool, I’d like to get the chance to see it in the flesh when it’s been built, and I don’t think sensitivities of people living thousands of miles away that aren’t really affected by the building should be taken into consideration. 

  • Anonymous

    These buildings sure look like 9/11 to me! If it’s just a “coincidence”, why aren’t the buildings the same height? Why isn’t the “cloud” at the top? No, this looks too much like 9/11, to me, to be a mere “coincidence”.

  • http://twitter.com/1732sj sarah stjohn

    BS!  And do they also have an igloo on Miami Beach they want to sell us??  This bunch are NO
    allies, nor should the US be theirs!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Erich-Hoefert/1624899295 Erich Hoefert

    Technically both buildings went down separately.  Not at once with a “cloud” in between them.  Nevertheless it still looks like what happened on 9/11 and reminds us of that.  This is a hard one.  If I was in charge I’d alter it’s appearance enough to remove that “reminder’.  However given it is their country like it or not it’s ultimately their decision.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/YunieBeth Connie McMillan

    artistically it is an interesting design but thats is still messed up!! I am not sure if I am offended more by this one or the mosque at the foot of the original sight!! bad bad taste

  • Ryan Frederick

    you should see this Alec Baldwin vs. Soopermexican on twitter. some funny stuff. http://www.soopermexican.com/2011/11/30/alec-baldwin-delendam-est/

  • Anonymous

    Personally I think the Koreans meant the design to look like towers rising above the clouds. They do not have the image of 9/11 seared into their brains like we do. It is unfortunate that it reminds us of that but it is not the Koreans fault.

  • thelionoftruth

    Perfectly said Ryan! The more learned of Yahweh’s Plan
    for us and about His Purpose for us we see more detail in
    them! Praise Yahweh! for ever and ever Amen!

  • Anonymous

    these buildings are gross   they dishonor the people who lost their lives on that fateful day

  • Sam Garrett

    Even if this was not originally intentional, you can not tell me that through the design process of this building(which of something of this size would take a VERY long time), someone didn’t say “that looks JUST like the twin towers being attacked”. At that point the chief architect should in some way have changed the design of the building, out of respect alone. Is this what we want our world to be like? A world were we won’t show compassion for our other brother countries of this world?

  • Ryan Frederick

    i wish i knew his plan for me.

  • Anonymous

    Having lived in Seoul for four years while in the US Army, I believe the architects.  There is no appreciable amount of green space in the area and developers are constantly seeking ways to be creative.  As a nation, the people of South Korea have endured oppression from multiple sources and are cautious not to cause unnecessary offense.  The picture above looks more like Lego-land to me than the Twin Towers.  We endured a tragedy in America but that does not give us the right to impose on the sovereignty of another nation nor the creativity of its citizens.   

  • Sam Garrett

    Even if this was not originally intentional, you can not tell me that through the design process of this building(which of something of this size would take a VERY long time), someone didn’t say “that looks JUST like the twin towers being attacked”. At that point the chief architect should in some way have changed the design of the building, out of respect alone. Is this what we want our world to be like? A world were we won’t show compassion for our other brother countries of this world?

  • Anonymous

    Well, Thank you, lilolady…I knew I couldn’t be the only person who felt like I lost something, like we all lost something. I haven’t forgotten, and I’m outraged at the Mosque being built, but I’m even more outraged that we haven’t re-built the towers.

  • thelionoftruth

    I got it! on tonight’s show! Now!! LOVE!! Is going to be the hardest part in our lives!
    You See! There is in the Greek knowledge. Three divisions. The first in the order of
    friendship called Phileo, All the Apostles Loved Christ (Phileo-ed) Christ in Friend-
    ship! Or to be fond of – In Strong’s concordance Numbers 5368,5384. The question
    that was the result answer, that Peter thought! Christ asked in John 21: 15, 16, 17!
    “Lord thou knows that I love (Phileo) thee” However Jesus was asking Peter the
    first
    two times John 21: 15, 16 “Simon son of Jonas Lovest (Agape) me more
    than these? (Meaning= Do you Agape these fishermen more than me? I will
    explain Agape later.

    The second, 2nd, explanation of Love, is! The loving of doing! or Things! like Man
    made idols! It is pretty self explanatory Thelos, or Theleo, in Strong’s Number 2309!

    But! Jesus Christ revealed us to, in John 15: 12 “That ye Love one
    another as I have loved you.” This is what Jesus is telling us! (Agape
    Love) is the quintessential Love to one another, and Most Christians
    know this! But most never understood this.
    So! I will give you this true interpretation. This is what is known as Sacrificial Love!
    What does sacrificial! Mean in our lives? First of all it does not mean you have to
    Die!
    For Christ! What it does! Mean. Is that you take action to do for him,
    or someone, or somethings, over what you would normally do for yourself!
    In other words Sacrifice your time of going to a movie by attending a
    Bible study! Dying
    could be the result of this, but will only be
    temporary and that is why in your Sacrifice! This puts the Purpose of
    God’s Goodness, His Rightness in Faith! That,
    God will give you
    Eternal Life! Because You believed His every Word Yahweh God has
    promised all of us that Obey! Him! In this! I hope you will receive a
    clearer understanding!
    Your hope in truth! Your Messenger.

    You See! If you have a strong enough faith in believing that God truly will
    not let your soul die by following exactly what He ask us to do! You should not
    fear Dying! And have everlasting hope of Living with Yahweh! 

  • Anonymous

    You are kidding right? It isn’t about “ourselves” , meaning just Americans either. The 9/11 attacks were an attack on the world. People from every culture, nation, creed, ethnicity, race, language, religion, and idealogy, were killed that day. If you say “get over it” you are telling every person in the world from Muslims, to Christians, to atheists, to blacks, whites, Hispanics, Asians, Native Americans, and everyone else, to just “get over” an attack on their own people,culture and themselves. You see it as something , not a big deal, because in your own mind it only happened to Americans. Clearly, you are one of those far left , taught to be a self-hating, Americans, who believes we have everything coming to us. I feel bad for you that you feel that way. No matter what your opinions are on anything, America did not deserve it, no one deserved that, no one deserved to die, or to know a loved one died. that way. I guess you would have no issue telling the grandchild of a Jew killed during the Holocaust it wasn’t a big deal, and to “get over themselves.” If the 9/11 attacks happened in any other part of the world, you would think it was a big deal I am sure. Rather or not the design is “cool” is irrelevant. I don’t believe it wasn’t intentional though, I think it was, and it is fitting a nation full of freedom hating commies would support anything that represents an attack on democracy. It is too coincendental in painfully apparent ways. Believing it is ok because it is “cool” is probably the same shallow reason you voted for Obama. He looks “cool, young, hip and full of jive.”  Try thinking a bit deeper, and try to see outside of your transparent world for awhile. Oblivious and blissfully ignorant people like you are the creators and enablers of the issues the U.S is facing, and the world is fearful about.

  • Ryan Frederick

    did you ever here of Joe White? the guy is interesting idea. http://youtu.be/ZBecy2hU2pY http://youtu.be/KIrdO3FDUZY here the web site if you like to know more about the group. http://crossmg.org/

  • jeff richmond

    At some point, couldn’t all of us be a little out of line here? I see the resemblance, and I see the great potential design. I also think it wise to consider it possible that someone in Korea may not have the images of the buildings forged in their heads as we would here in the USA. I also think Roger has a valid point in his scenario above, “Being hurt doesn’t excuse lashing out at others as a knee jerk reaction.” I would suggest wisdom is necessary. I also think Roger (great name Mr. Funk) could perhaps be insensitive if he were speaking with relatives of 911 victims, but at what point do these very real “sensitivities” become twisted and turn into POLITICAL CORRECTNESS — which always presumes the worst from the other. What happened to giving someone the “benefit of the doubt?” What
    happened to wisdom? When did we forget where to go to get wisdom?

  • http://twitter.com/Kappa_Nitori Ruri

    No just ugly.

  • http://twitter.com/Kappa_Nitori Ruri

    They do need to get over 9-11 but if I was an investor I would not build this as it almost certainly would loose money.
    The design is maintenance heavy and the market for mid cost luxury apartments is pretty much dead.
    Maybe as a combination office highrise with expensive penthouse apartments it can be profitable but as pure residential it would be a money pit.

    other issue I have with the design it’s not very functional the bulge will make it difficult to have enough elevator service for the given volume then there’s not enough parking etc.
    Looks cool if you’re into that sorta stuff but very impractical.

  • Anonymous

    total bs.someone should just bomb this p…o…s…away-before people move in.with todays high tech you can create nearly anything without making it look like a very sad piece of history.

  • Anonymous

    Not their intention my ass

  • Anonymous

    From a mechanical engineering perspective, those two towers may be able to stand up to the worst typhoons in the area. No earthquakes anywhere near that place, but it would work for that, too. However, dog lovers may see a different image.

  • http://tayloralexander.org tayloralexander

    This architectural firm designs buildings of breathless, boundless beauty. Their skills at cantilever construction methods is without equal. I am positive if their intent was to offend and make a statement as to the event of ten years ago, they could have taken a still from the moment the first tower began to fall and duplicated the image. They have the talents to, if they wished, to have cantilevered several hundred feet of units, shops and pools to mimic the smoke billowing at the roof and being carried away by the winds.The thin skinned people on this thread that depend on others for an opinion need to GET A LIFE and enjoy the beauty of the world.PS. Glenn, do you plan to start “Restoring Love” after 6-1-2012?If you have glanced at Glenn’s programming over the past few days, one would swear he is decompensating.

  • Anonymous

    As I am typing I live in S. Korea. Here are a few reason to doubt that this is nothing more than a unique building design. 1) S. Koreans just are not wired for taking pot shots at other countries. S. Korea has its own history of invasion and strife caused by the Japanese. They tend to be more sensitive toward these kinds of issues. 2) The US military is the primary defense force for S. Korea and I truly doubt the government would allow a jab in the eye like this. 3) S. Koreans are brilliant people who since working there way out of third world nation status have developed a a rather grand vision for their future. Look up “Saemanguem” for a little insight to S. Korea’s visionary projects. 

  • Jeff Wood

    Annnnnnd here come the kneejerk reactions. I agree, get over yourselves.  Not everyone in the world is here to exacerbate your personal tragedy, nor our national one.  Seeing conspiracies everywhere is getting to be the defining characteristic of being American.

  • Anonymous

    The building also looks like is crossing some clouds in the sky and you can find other similarities if you make a contest to find them. Everything is in the eye of the beholder. If you love freedom, let them do whatever they think people wants. The market will give them what they deserve, success or failure. Do not waste much time on this issue, time is of the essence, there are many more important things to attend right now. The world as we know it is collapsing and we need to create the systems which will replace the rotten ones.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Profit/100003170663654 Jim Profit

    If it is intentional then that is some excellent trolling.

    “We should close our bases in South Korea if they go through with this.”

    Oh yeah, that’ll show’em! Maybe we should all offend americans… maybe then they’d get their military out of everywhere. 

  • Anonymous

    Oh yeah.  All you have to do is lean back in your chair, squint your eyes a little and then it sure

    looks like smoke coming out of the towers.  Perhaps the design wasn’t meant to be offensive,

    but it surely is very insensitive and in poor taste.

  • Anonymous

    Totally agree with you, ”m_m”.   I remember 9/11 every day.  Really.  Because our

    nation suffered so much and has still to fully heal and recover from the trauma of that

    day.

  • Anonymous

    Interesting info, Traveler.  Thanks for posting.

  • Anonymous

    Well said, Stephen.

  • Anonymous

    You wrote one fiery post, Firewifer.  And with good reason.  You lived through it and I

    can understand your indignation at those who have said: Get over it.     I haven’t.  I did

    not lose anyone on 9/11 but this is a day, a disaster I will never forget.  I remember it

    every day.  I live near two international airports (and a county airport) and whenever I

    hear a plane fly overhead, I’m reminded.  And I say a prayer for our country.

  • Anonymous

    Dawn, what an interesting perspective you have on this.  Thanks for posting.

  • thelionoftruth

      Good Morning Ryan, I did look at the video, but again one must be careful.
    It is the same as believing a sermon based on man’s interpretations of
    Jesus Christ in a false way! Then comes the “Serpent Lie” When people
    start believing things like the Trinity for instance they become stuck on this
    belief and condemn God’s real truth to this falsely taught knowledge and
    unknowingly becomes an adversary or Satan in the true belief of God’s Plan
    and Purpose to exist with God.
    Most people will fight God on the basis of following these false truths, and mis-
    lead Mankind to their destruction! The Truth is very hard thing to hold on to
    unless you constantly search for God’s revealing Word.
    But some people can draw you away pretty easily for the gain of their! power!
    Over the truth in the deceit for their ego’s sake.
    So Ryan please pray and be careful. Meditate and think before you leap into
    these videos and sermons, that may be harmful in this important light of truth.
    God be your guide! Have you checked my site: http://knowledgedefinestruth.shutterfly.com/ I give some thoughts to think of.
    Be Godly Happy!

  • Anonymous

    I’ll reserve judgement until I hear those responsible for this building explain how the concept came to light.  Last time I checked, I thought S. Korea was our friend.  Those towers sure look suspect, though.

  • Ryan Frederick

    i do beileve in the Trinity.

  • thelionoftruth

    OK Ryan. No one really Knows, But think of this?
    When your natural father that provided for you I don’t
    know how he brought you up, but lets say for the purpose of this explanation he was a loving guy.
    When you needed things your dad provided for all your
    needs. and you loved him back right?
    Well lets say one day you decided to not listen to his
    rules and go against him with your own rules and make him angry at you! Do you think if he loved you he will
    stop loving you! NO! he would try and show you that his
    rules were better by explaining the purpose of his rules because he still loves you!
    Well God Still loves you, and wants you to be
    knowledgeable of his true rules and when you strive to
    follow them, God will provide you his Holy Spirit as your reward in striving to follow them. And when you do! You will be revealed more about Him and promised
    life forever!
    So if you believe this and sometimes wrong. God will not hold that against you, but he eventually give you correction and in the end will accept you for striving
    to follow God correctly. If you truly believe this you
    will surly be God’s. Don’t Give up on seeking Truth Ryan. Your Messenger.

  • thelionoftruth

       Can you tell us how? and Why?

  • Ryan Frederick

    give me sometime i have to look though my notes.

  • thelionoftruth

    Of course! But the past learning you’ve had needs scrutiny of past human knowledge! Proof is in the
    revealing Holy Spirit in scripture. Not by the mere words of men.

  • Derek Biondich

    The architecture and structural desgin is incredibly complicated just to create “green living spaces”.  It is a ridiculous excuse/apology, and a patronizing mockery to our faces, while they turn and snicker, “stupid Americans.”

  • thelionoftruth

       Do you know where Barbara Clemons has been as of lately
    I haven’t seen her for some time? Maybe on another Post?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TNYO3DQHQPCABKSMICWXXWOKHM Dr

    The architecture and structural desgin is incredibly complicated just to create more involved living spaces.  Form follows function for architectural drafters, this is strictly artistic design and does not support better living spaces as its primary goal, and any college student could decipher this.  It is a ridiculous excuse/apology, and a patronizing mockery to our faces, while they may turn and snicker, “stupid Americans.”  A response such as “we should get over ourselves” is a typical emotional downfall for any American who no longer takes pride in this country and what it stands for.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IHYZTXRJUXKMQCDH4B3D4JNTTM blue eyes

    WOW! A cloud of smoke?  Not intending to create an image resembling the attacks?  Are they allowed to watch or read world news over there?  I bet they were prepared for outrage and already had the apology statement prepared.

  • thelionoftruth

    I hate to use such a Cliche’ However “Pride does come before a fall” Like I say in my
    profile. 
    “God should be our first Priority!” Too much pride of ourselves will be our destruction!
    God Be our guide to all things.

  • Anonymous

    I want a divorce from the left in this country. I’m sick of their lack of common decency and respect for a country that has given them everything.

  • Anonymous

    Well…here is the evidence…is called sight and memory…what else does it look like to you twinkle toes? Why is it that individuals like you will disregard all your senses and commonsense as long as it fits you agenda of putting America last. I am sure that if we designed an Amtrak train that looked like it was blown up and passed it as it giving more room and light for the passengers you would be one of the first complaining about how insensitive we are. So I say get a clue Sherlock. If it looks like a duck…it is a duck.

  • thelionoftruth

    God responds to His Humans in multiple methods and when we learn of this we start responding back to God!
    when we realize that He truly is communicating to us in these multiple ways we should realize what He wants from us in Spirit! Does anyone understand what I’m attempting to reveal to you?

  • Anonymous

    Seriously, get a clue. Ok, so let’s use your child molester analogy, but lets fix it to compare apples to apples. Let’s say that this boy sees the man show him his penis and now the boy goes to the police…is that overreacting?  You see Einstein we can see the design of the building and it looks like like the twin towers exploding. That is called a visual cue…Since you are defending this so much, can you please tell me what does the building reminds you of?

  • thelionoftruth

       Start with learning the real truth of God’s plan and purpose! Conservatism is not all the answers but a better design to follow God’s commandments through, on ethics
    which makes for a better world.

  • Anonymous

    I have never posted before but this is incredible. Funk is getting the typical stupid American crap. Why arent you guys upset the muslims are biulding a mosque on “ground zero”. This guy is simply stating the facts ( as they are known now). Besides the city in question is extremely crowded and something should be done in the design process to do better than huge peg looking buildings. Just remember this Mr. Funk… these people are your neighbors… be prepared when the time comes that they think you are an insult to them..      ward

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bird-Man/1833398933 Bird Man

    I dont see where S. Korea stands to gain anything but lost support of the US if in fact they did this design purposely. People see Jesus in the clouds everyday because that is what they are looking to see.

  • Anonymous

    “Get over” it??? How about the 3000 dead or those poor souls who had to leap from the windows? You are one cold, cold person. If you have no feelings or respect for your country. move. Also, please spare me the pc bs about the buildings not necessarily representing the twin towers . The resemblance is unmistakable and any decent architect would have steered away from any such semblance.

  • Anonymous

    The Left is so hypocritical. If an American architectural firm had designed a building that was painfully, flagrantly offensive to another culture, particularly an ethnic minority, the Left would be demanding we respect their cultural sensitivities…denouncing us as ugly, chauvinistic Neanderthals.  However, when it comes to anything American or even Christian, all bets are off…anything goes. Hence we get the OWS protestor defecating on the American flag and artwork depicting the crucifix in urine. Never, ever would such insults be tolerated if hurled at another culture. There is some twisted self-loathing seething in the subconscious psyche of the left.

    And please don’t try to pass this design off as some coincidence. It’s way too close not to be a reference to 911. You are lying to yourselves if you think otherwise.

  • http://twitter.com/rock_928 Tom Lawrence

    I say let that Korean company try to build that shit in New York City.

  • http://twitter.com/rock_928 Tom Lawrence

    not to mention that the building is ugly, anyways.

  • Anonymous

    Well, I do not know if this was intentional, but I will say this, it does lack foresight. I am not sure how the designer could say that this controversy would not happen.
    On another note, Glenn talking about a good reason for Libertarians to pull the troops out of S. Korea, how about our Constitution and Bill of Rights? That seems like reason enough.

  • Anonymous

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1242780323 Glenn Bauer

    Wow, hyper-sensitive!  No it wasn’t deliberate, don’t just jump to knee-jerk conclusions – proof?  Just type MVRDV Images into your search engine and you’ll see that this is what they do – design cloud buildings – it’s inadvertant and unfortunate that at some point such a design would reflect that horrific moment.  These people are builders not destroyers – do not let what terrorists did and do turn you into what you’re sounding like.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2EQUMMVGDXZPLT3METR7474LLU Debra

    I don’t believe them and even if they didn’t have that intention they should re-think the way this looks.  It Does look like the two towers burning.  What were they thinking?

  • Ryan Frederick

    she is at the http://www.thefriendcenter.com a few others that come here are their to take a look a lot nicer place to be good people to talk to.

  • Ryan Frederick

    i can’t disagree with their logic.

  • Hyo Rhi Kim

    Americans really need to get over themselves. The company had something different in mind and not everything what the world does has something to do with America. This is being built in Korea not America where Americans have that emotional response. Also check out the architect Daniel Liebeskind and look at his relationship to Ground Zero and see if he would design anything that is disrespectful to tragedy. Americans do a lot of things and don’t care what the world thinks about it..” 

    For example, Thanksgiving is gonna be celebrated bc it has the meaning of gathering with families and being thankful even though for some, it means the start of tragedy, the wiping off of people that helped the Pilgrims. In this case you are interpreting things through your own eyes. And even if this was inspired by the 9/11 incident, how is this disrespectful or offensive? It is not glorifying that incident, is it? There memorials built to specifically honor those that die in horrific incidents. Would you say oh they are reminding us of horrible things, they should be removed? 

    Some people mentioned whatever the purpose of the design, because of the tragic association, it should be removed. Well, as I said there are many things you do without realizing how a person of another race, gender, nationality would respond. It would make sense to stop building if it was planned for America where tons of Americans see it. But this is in Korea where Koreans see it. If you think it is too painful to look at then, don’t go to the part in Korea where you see this building, and don’t search the internet for pics of this building. It’s that simple. There were many tragedies involving fallen buildings and bridges in Korea too and they don’t look at every high building and think Oh that reminds me of that terrible incident and the corruption of the building companies that caused the buildings to collapse on my beloved’s body. They don’t go around protesting every project of building and bridges. 

    Seriously, according to the way you react to situations, we should remove all skyscrapers in New York, people should stop putting American flags or confederate flags in front of their houses, in fact, the existence of America itself is so painful to watch for numerous people around the world that lost their families in wars where Americans were involved, had their children go through horrific child labor so that we can wear some fancy shoes, drink coffee, eat chocolate etc. etc. We should just disappear from the face of the Earth bc we live our over-privilleged lives without even thinking of whose lives we are costing to do so and whining about some buiding in a different continent. I think this kind of lifestyle we have here is quite disrespectful.

  • http://profiles.google.com/jnorhlee janice north

    It is a cool design BUT I was shocked with the visual memory it brought from the pictures of 9/11.  I am very uncomfortable with this and the memories it evokes. 

  • Anonymous

    i think people are overeating, when i first saw it, i saw a building going up threw the clouds, not the world trade center. 

    but maybe thats just me.

  • Ryan Frederick

    i just want to get to work on what he wants me to do.

  • thelionoftruth

       We all know you mean over-reading but it is also true we are over eating! LOL

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WDJ5OHDQXXTIGEYOR2X5IEIHGI havnfun

    I didn’t lose anyone in 9/11. And I can appreciate the innovation of the idea.  But get over the Political Correctness!  This is a clear imitation of the twin towers on 9/11. Maybe they thought we would be okay with it. And maybe they were inspired by the light, structure, etc. But seriously! We don’t have to be okay with this. If you like it, good for you. I find it interesting, but still offensive.  But call a lemon a lemon and don’t try to pretend that that is not what it is just because it isn’t PC to acknowledge it.

  • thelionoftruth

    In this thinking you may not meet Christ or God!
    The truth has to be obeyed and to obey you have to be
    aware! To be aware you have to know how God’s knowledge
    is leading you to His plan and purpose!
    Do you know God’s plan and purpose is for us? Because God has created Mankind to be what He wants them to be!
    Not what we want God to be! That is the huge difference!
    Mankind has taught false knowledge for ages.
    The truth of God has been compromised! By His own Creation! Now is the time God Gets them back by revealing His truth through Jesus Christ if you truly
    respond to God through the Holy Spirit Jesus will be
    your mediator Between God and you! Think on this if you
    want to be a Godly person and hope God reveals to you
    His truth! God be your Guide! Your Messenger = Angel!

  • Ryan Frederick

    look i only been at this a few years i know i have to learn more about his word. i still on the milk as Paul said. some thing he does is going to be way past are understanding. this is the God that made complex things like universe and the human brain. i want from atheist to believeing in God. God had to get my attenting. not going into detales but lets just say if any atheist that seen what i seen it would change their life forever.

  • thelionoftruth

    Believe me God wants you know Him more and to follow
    His Son correctly but you want to have to firmly seek
    and have the desire to find real God’s truth!
    Otherwise if you set back and wait for God’s truth, it
    will be too late.

  • thelionoftruth

    I believe you and I think God is working with you keep
    asking Him for His help in fervent prayer.
    One thing I can say is your mind is blank of these religious views and may be your saving Grace.
    God keep you with an open mind! Be well Ryan.

  • Jacob Bobay

    As someone who could’ve died in the Twin Towers on 9/11, I personally think people are looking at this WAY too seriously. No red flags are going off: the contractors of the buildings aren’t from Middle Eastern countries nor are they connected to Islamic terrorist groups. It really doesn’t look like there was any connection to the events of 9/11 in designing the towers. South Korea doesn’t even have a history of Islamic terrorism. If these buildings were being constructed in Dubai, Cairo, Tripoli, Gaza, the West Bank, Damascus, Tehran, Riyadh, or Kabul, some eyebrows should def be raised.   

  • Ryan Frederick

    all i want to do is seek the truth were ever it may lead. peace be with you.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LR3I4X656U47FEK4XYRP6VHJ5U Marie

    The most offensive thing in the world is Islam.  And Glenn, don’t give me that line that it’s the religion of peace.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LR3I4X656U47FEK4XYRP6VHJ5U Marie

    How do you know if there is no connections to Islam?  Because someone says there isn’t?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LR3I4X656U47FEK4XYRP6VHJ5U Marie

    I actually thought it was the Twin Towers when I first saw this picture a few days ago.  When I actually paid attention to the story, I was stunned.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LR3I4X656U47FEK4XYRP6VHJ5U Marie

    I hope Korea enjoys their jihad.  It will eventually get there.  They are not stopping until the entire world is Islamic or submits to Islamic rule.  Have fun, Hyo Rhi Kim Mohammed.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000163947585 Monique Amirian

    This is very wrong! How dare them!

  • http://www.facebook.com/ChadVanLoo Chad Van Loo

    get over yourself u must be anti america

  • http://www.facebook.com/ChadVanLoo Chad Van Loo

    you didnt lose anyone . or you have no heart either way you an idiot 

  • http://www.facebook.com/ChadVanLoo Chad Van Loo

    south korea is just a country that cant do for it’s self always expecting people to do for them . and this is how they behave? this design needs to go….

  • Mo Ibrahim

    It is a very nice design, I wish I can see it Built.

  • dimend five

    Paranoid much?

  • http://www.facebook.com/diantha.nota Diantha Averil Nota

    The (15!) architects are actually from a Dutch agency called MVRDV. They presented another 20 or so similar designs at the same time, including some with a connecting disc that also represents a cloud. (Look it up. :))

    When it hit the Dutch news, I first didn’t see the resemblance either until they adopted the imagery the American news used, where it is presented in this current angle. 

    I think they were naive, yes. Probably all sorbed up in their creative piece. But when 6 million people died because of Nazi Germany, nobody in Europe went nuts to tell the billions of hindu’s and buddhists in Asia to stop using the Swastika. It’s not meant to hurt anyone and there just happens to be different cultural associations over the world. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/diantha.nota Diantha Averil Nota

    Should I be the one breaking to you guys that it was actually designed by Dutch architect agency MVRDV, which means the anger is aimed inappropriately? :’) 

    Please do look up the designs. From another angle the resemblance is not as striking, and perhaps you get to see the 20 other similar designs that represent a cloud (like discs).

    They showed the architects on Dutch TV. Completely pale faces and startled by the both the anger it provokes and the association itself they did not foresee..

  • http://www.facebook.com/diantha.nota Diantha Averil Nota

    I find it very unlikely that these guys, who made loads similar projects in the past, did this on purpose, and then in turn, present the design along with 20 other similar designs, in imagery from an angle that does not make it resemble all that much…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pg6mRTvjFA

  • http://www.facebook.com/diantha.nota Diantha Averil Nota

    The architects are native Dutch. Not much of Jihadists, I’d say..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pg6mRTvjFA

  • http://www.facebook.com/diantha.nota Diantha Averil Nota

    It was a Dutch company that builds much very similar ‘shit’ all over the world. :’) Search before judgement..

  • http://www.facebook.com/diantha.nota Diantha Averil Nota

    Good, keep the discussion with your opponents in your country then. But this building is happening on the other side of the world, where all association is different. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/diantha.nota Diantha Averil Nota

    You would be totally right if this happened in the US, where the association is strong and where people have experienced this very strongly from up close. However, this design was created outside the US, and if you know how BIG and diverse the world is, you would not shove bad intentions in their shoes.   

  • Anonymous

    I think it’s a nice design. Some people might get insulted though. Build it and see what everyone thinks in 50 years.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-King/100000454815242 Joe King

    Sensitive much? Get over it. 

    Plus, pull your bases out and keep your claws off, please, asap.

  • http://www.facebook.com/BoxerBlake Blake Cross

    I have to shake my head at some of the idiotic things being posted.  Attacking people with childish name calling because they don’t think this was meant as an insult to the US.  You people are truly arrogant and ignorant.  Let them build this, and get over yourselves.  I agree with Roger.  Show me proof that this design was meant as an insult, or stop your petty bickering since you have no clue.

  • kimibob

    Th reason this is so thought-provoking is a matter of the proportions. We all have the image
    of the Twin Towers collapse were the top portion and the bottom portion were intact and the places where the planes had hit were exploding outward. I am a designer and I believe the architects design and their thinking behind it to be excellent and worthy of it  being build. HOWEVER, changing the proportions by the simple expedient of raising or lowering the
     “Cloud” would so change the “offensive image” that the contrversy would be the correct thing
    to “Die”. If I were the resposible party I would make the two towers more unequal in height and move the “Cloud” to within 2 stories of the top of the shorter one…..but being sure that it WAS NOT IN THE CENTER OF THE TALLER TOWER. The IDEA is intact just the proportions have changed……hopefully along with a lot of PERSONEL OPINIONS. Thank you for considering this PERSONEL OPINION.

  • http://www.facebook.com/INKjuiceJAQ Jaq Inkjuice Boss

    wrong wrong wrong… SMH

  • http://www.facebook.com/INKjuiceJAQ Jaq Inkjuice Boss

    why would they build something like this??? i lost NOBODY during 9/11 and this is still hurtful to me.. its OBVIOUSLY a replica of the bombed buildings.. very horrible taste on this design.. i feel extremely disrespected by the koreans by accepting this building and not having any consideration to Americans.. SMH.

  • Janis Felsted

    Without any extra comment I asked my 11 year old son to come over and “look at a picture of a building”.  I told him it hadn’t been built yet, this was just what it was going to look like.  His comments were:

    “Wow!”

    “Wait, those are the Twin Towers’

    “It looks like they’re exploding”

    “Is that person trying to recreate a bad memory?”

    “The only thing missing is the plane.”

    “Whoever that person is… I don’t think they like America very much.”

    My son was a baby on 9/11 and is a normal boy interested in sports and video games, and thinks politics are boring, especially since our family includes about all the political views out there. We didn’t lose anyone close in the attacks.   His only exposure has been what he’s seen on tv on the ‘anniversary’ reports, and he’s only been old enough to watch those the last few years when the coverage was much less.    But this was still his gut reaction.

    He came over to see what I was typing and read about the statement of apology in the above story.  His comment?
    “Anyone who says they weren’t thinking about the twin towers when they built that is a total liar.”

    Since he has no position to defend, I have to think that this was not only an honest, but also an intuitive reaction.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C6AAO4YXWNA2KQ2ORAH7QWLZAM One_Man_Army

    thelionoftruth, I believe in the Trinity and I can tell you why.  The Christian concept of the trinity cannot be thought of as 3 different beings, not really.  The Bible makes clear that Jesus Christ is God when it states that He is the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God.  That verse there, forgive me because I don’t remember where it was exactly, states quite plainly that Jesus Christ is, was, and forever will be God.  The Christian concept of the Trinity is ONE supreme being, God, with 3 personas, so to speak: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. The Bible makes quite clear that these all represent just one entity, and that entity is the supreme God.  The trinity is one.  That is why I believe in the trinity.  The Bible couldn’t be clearer on the Trinity, you know.  The holy Trinity is no lie.  It’s as real as the time of day.  It’s as real as day and night.  The Bible makes that fact quite clear.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C6AAO4YXWNA2KQ2ORAH7QWLZAM One_Man_Army

    No doubt, Ryan.  I don’t really doubt what the builders here had to say.  I’m just saying that we shouldn’t jump to the wrong conclusions when architects do build buildings that are reminiscent of 9/11.  If the building were in North Korea rather than South Korea, I would probably see it as a clear praise for 9/11 myself.  Even if it were made with 9/11 in mind, though, we shouldn’t automatically jump to the conclusion that it’s praising 9/11.  It could be the exact opposite.  I could see our allies building such a building as a sign of respect to memorialize the lives of those lost.  All I’m saying is that we shouldn’t automatically jump to conclusions when the exact opposite could be the case.  My view likely is a minority view, but that’s just how I feel about it.

    By the way, LOL at the whole Twitter feud there.  Absolutely hilarious how stupid Alec Baldwin is, huh?  That’s one Mexican I wouldn’t mind to be north of the Mexican/American border.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1445866180 Debra Lynn

    didnt see the resemblance at all!  RRRIIIIGGGHHHHTTT!!!

  • thelionoftruth

    Why call it the trinity when the word trinity is not
    in the Bible? Who Created that word? I know it wasn’t God! So if there is three in one and all know the same!
    and the Son calls the Father Father But Jesus is the Father Why should He ask the Father which is Himself To
    Accept his disciples in John chapter 17: 1- 26 Can you
    answer this? Clearly!

  • Anonymous

    There are four fundamental flaws with humanity.  The first being that each individual “thinks” they have it bad, when in reality we “all” have it bad.  The second being that no one truly cares about anything until it “happens” to them.  The third being that one only understands and desires justice when they fall victim to a crime.  The fourth being that just because we can do something; it does not mean that we “should” do it. 
    Anyone recall twenty-plus years ago when a few Japanese electronics companies used “12/07/41″ on their display models?  My Grandfather (a WWII Marine who lost his brother; a naval aviator, in a kamikaze attack) was furious and being a child I did not understand the gravity of it, nor did I care about it at the time.  This is one of those momemts I understand his angered pain; and although I did not lose anyone on 9/11, nor presumed to have lost anyone, I do have enough empathy towards others to realize that some things should not be done.

  • Ryan Frederick

    i also believe this is true. it may not be in the bible but neather most of what Jesus did. i forget were it was but in the bible said Jesus did so many mricales and works that they could not even fit it into the bible. many of his works have been loss to time but their are clues to about their bing a trinity first one is were Jesus said if you know me then you know the father. infact from what i read out if the bible their seems like their a bigger coneation between the father son and holy sprit. i think the consept of the tinnity is way beond are understanding but just because you can’t see something does not mean its not their. in astronomy which i also study. their are these things called black holes. you can’t see them though a back yard teloscope but they are their. how can we tell they effcet the light around it. like that the connection between God the father and the son. Jesus knew stuff only the father knew more than anyone that came before him. i think they were connected in some way and the tinnity expains that well. it is also how God could have been in two places at once. how do you think God knows are everymove and even what we think. he would have to be everywere at once. the tinnity can expain this stuff to. don’t hate me for this friend but that how i see it. ontill i read something i read somewere were Jesus said me and my father are not the same but he did say if you know me then you know the father. how do you explain that?

  • Ryan Frederick

    the trinity is a hard thing for me to understand i an still trying to understand it. it one of those things that we will not truly understand. play nice with leo he is a nice guy and i agreed with him ontill we got to this point.

  • thelionoftruth

    There’s where studying comes in Ryan. God does Reveal these things to us. I have discovered after studying Oh
    about a year that God’s Holy spirit comes alive and through various ways God shows Us how to look at His Word! By us I mean a group that has been doing this for over 200 years Surly if we were wrong on our belief we probably would have dissolved as most religions do.
    We do separate from all christian churches because of the revelation Yahweh God has revealed to us was His Real Truth, that we continue to teach God’s true Doctrines to correct the false truths being spread in deceit of God’s Holy Word! I’m not rushing you Ryan I think you will find Him in time,

  • thelionoftruth

    These things cannot be explained in a day or words only it is how you approach God I also don’t have all the answers. These are personal answers that come to you if and when God reveals His Word it will be how you respond back to Him! I cant say How but He will. Only God knows you. He might come to you in only your way of
    knowing. Keep trying to be aware of God. Talk to him, Pray to Him for answers. I will Pray for you also Ryan
    Good night for now. Leo.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C6AAO4YXWNA2KQ2ORAH7QWLZAM One_Man_Army

    The Trinity may not be specifically stated in the Bible, but it is clearly defined in the Bible.

    I take you straight to John Chapter 1, which has the verse I speak of.  It says, and I quote, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”  The Word spoken here represents Jesus.  He was not created.  He was there in the beginning with God.  He was with God.  He WAS God.  The same is true of the Holy Spirit, the third persona of the Trinity.  The word Trinity may not be found in the Bible, but neither are a lot of other truths.  You don’t see the word dinosaur in the Bible, either, but they are very clearly described throughout.  In the same way, the Trinity is very clearly defined in the Bible as God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.  This cannot be seen of as 3 gods like other religions, such as the Egyptians.  The Holy Trinity of Christianity is 1 God represented with 3 personas.

    Jesus is not the Father.  Jesus is the Son.  Both, however, are God.  The Bible couldn’t be clearer on this issue, you know.  Jesus was, and is, God in the flesh, God made human.  When Jesus was praying to God the Father, He wasn’t praying to himself but to the Father.  They, that is both God the Father and God the Son, are One.  I don’t know how much more clearly it can be stated.  That is as clear as day and night.  C. S. Lewis, who is even mentioned on the site you provided, actually shared the same belief.  He, too, believed in the Trinity as described in the Bible simply because the Holy Trinity is so clearly defined throughout the Bible.

    in closing, I will reiterate what I already said.  John 1:1.  Look into that verse.  It clearly defines Jesus Christ as being with God in the beginning, and it clearly defines Jesus Christ as God.  “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”  The Word mentioned here was, is, and forever will be Jesus Christ as mentioned in John 1:14 where it states, and I quote, “The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen His glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.”  John clearly defines the Holy Spirit as the third persona of trinity in verse 32 where it states, and I quote, “I saw the Spirit come down from heaven as a dove and remain on Him.”  The word Trinity may not be used, but a Holy Trinity is clearly defined throughout the Book of John.  The Holy Trinity of God is no lie.  It is a clearly defined Truth.  The site you’ve provided, and I have read a bit of it, is totally wrong when they say that there is no religious doctrine of the Holy Trinity described in the Bible.  The first Chapter of the Book of John clearly defines all 3 aspects of the Trinity.  In fact, that is the whole point of the first Chapter of the Book of John, to describe Jesus Christ as God made human.  Putting it another way, Jesus Christ is wholly God and wholly man.  How could it be any clearer than that?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C6AAO4YXWNA2KQ2ORAH7QWLZAM One_Man_Army

    Ryan, check out the first Chapter of the Book of John.  It clearly defines just who the Holy Trinity is.  C. S. Lewis and many other Christian theologians of our history also very clearly define the Biblical doctrine of the Holy Trinity using the Bible as their source for Truth.  They describe it better than I ever could.  Though the site provided by thelionoftruth actually has some good things to say, they are totally wrong when they say there is no Biblical doctrine of the Trinity when the Holy Trinity is clearly defined throughout its pages.  “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”  “The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen His glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.”  “I saw the Spirit come down from heaven as a dove and remain on Him.”  How could verses like these not describe the Trinity?  These verses from the first Chapter of the Book of John very clearly describe the Trinity of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.  The book of John is where the Doctrine comes from.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bonnie-Schoor-Haddad/100000200072489 Bonnie Schoor Haddad

    this is absolutely horrific. any one person that watched on that day…knows that looking at this building is a disgusting reminder..accident give me a break..they put those gardens patios etc in the exact place where the planes hit..change it..period… Koreans are supposed to be our allies..wheres the common sense in this one…really? pfft

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bonnie-Schoor-Haddad/100000200072489 Bonnie Schoor Haddad

    stop over reacting…? man you seriously need to take a look at the REAL situation here..thats not a memorization or they would have said that..bullshit…build it that way and ya never know what could happen out there..its a karma thing too…change the dang design period..idiotic…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bonnie-Schoor-Haddad/100000200072489 Bonnie Schoor Haddad

    get over OURselves??? i dont know what your thinking or if your thinking at all….why would someone build a damn reminder of hell on earth..i have family out there too…get a reality check man.. “you just like to pretend”  pretend what? that we were attacked and this building is an exact flipping replica of the twin towers and in the exact place the balcony is is where the planes hit… lord help you…

  • thelionoftruth

    John 1:1 Shows that Jesus was in God’s thoughts with God before Jesus was born a Man Jesus became the first Immortal Man to enter God’s realm, as it reads Jesus is the way and Door that opened this way to Heaven. If Jesus Failed and he could of there would be no way to enter heaven for Mankind.

    John 17: tells us to be one in thought just like God
    and Jesus are one in Mind. Jesus is still a Man! And he
    was the first man to be immortalized that gives mankind a way to be immortalized also to be with Yahweh God!
    You see! If Jesus was God and knew this! His death on the cross would have been a pretense as he was God! But what about the the prayer in the garden for the Father to take this cup He was asking as a man would For to not Die, but non the less God’s will be done. And Jesus
    did! Die for Mankind’s sake so Jesus could prepare the way to heaven. The Holy Spirit could not be sent until
    Jesus was physically with God, not Mentally with God so
    as Mankind also can be physically with God. Also The Holy Spirit is the direct connection between God, Jesus, and Mankind without Jesus there! Mankind could not Receive Holy Spirit! Jesus is God? Is like Adam and Eve by the Serpent Told Eve You will be gods and Eve believed that! and called God the liar. Today the same thing is going on and Mankind still doesn’t see it! God is now correcting us of this deceit, and it is us that have his truth that are attempting to reveal God’s TRUTH.
    If you don’t see this. Fine! But be prepared to pay the
    consequences that God is every day warning us of.
    Your definitions are the deceits of Men following
    the first liar, the Serpent! You will one day see that God’s adversary is really Mankind’s false belief!
    Adversary, is the word for Satan! Look up (Satan)
    It is so bothersome man wants it easy. Treasures! Are not easily sought! for.

    Your Messenger! In Yahweh’s Truth! Amen!

  • Ryan Frederick

    i was talking about the nature of trinity itself.

  • thelionoftruth

    I don’t know where you Get this from Brother Lewis!
    But read Jesus: God the Son or Son of God? I Will give you a sample:

    Jesus is Unique
    There is no doubt at all that the New Testament presents Jesus Christ as an outstanding personality. He gives striking evidence of extraordinary powers in the miracles he performs; he makes the most penetrating observations about human life, and faith, and the true worship of God; and his claims concerning himself, as the only source of life to come, are such as no one else would dare to make. His apostles speak of him, after his ascension, as exalted to all power and authority at God’s right hand. And his own estimate of the vital significance of his person is summed up thus:

    “This is life eternal, that (mankind) might know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent” (John 17:3).

    Clearly, if we are to have any hope of life to come, we need to know the truth about the person and the significance of Jesus Christ.

    The Popular View
    Now the majority of those who have any ideas at all about Jesus, think of him as part of the Godhead: as God the Son, existing in heaven from the beginning of time with God the Father, equal in power and authority to Him, but coming down to earth to be born, as a human babe, of the Israelite maiden known as the Virgin Mary; then dying on the Cross as a sign of God’s love for mankind, before returning to heaven to resume his former exalted position. As the Holy Ghost (now more commonly called the Holy Spirit) is also regarded as part of the Godhead, this is the “Triune God” (or One in Three), as described in the Doctrine of the Trinity. The relationship between the three Persons — God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost — is understood in a very subtle way by the learned theologians who defend this doctrine, and in a much more elementary way by the majority of those who somewhat vaguely accept it.

    The view that “Jesus is God” is held in a rather emotional way by many sincerely religious people. Anyone who does not unhesitatingly accept this formula is immediately regarded as a “heretic” and as “unChristian”. This short work is a plea for a friendly and sincere examination of this most important subject. The author and all those who share his opinions, would stress with all the earnestness they can command, that they really do believe that Jesus was, and is, literally the Son of God. They are not Unitarians, who think of Jesus as just a very superior man; nor are they “adoptionists”, holding that God “adopted” Jesus as His spiritual Son. They believe that Jesus was God’s “only begotten Son” in the way the Scriptures describe.

    Not in the Bible
    Now it is a remarkable fact that the ideas contained in the Doctrine of the Trinity are not found in the Bible. This is not a new discovery. It has been known for a long time, right back in the 4th century of our era. More recent theologians have said so clearly. For example, the Anglican theologian J. H. Newman, who joined the Church of Rome in 1845, wrote:

    “. . . the doctrines (that is, concerning Father, Son and Holy Spirit) have never been learned merely from Scripture” (The Arians of the 4th Century, p.50).

    Dr. W. R. Matthews, for many years Dean of St. Paul’s, London, was more emphatic:

    “. . . the doctrine of the Trinity . . . formed no part of the original message. St. Paul knew it not, and would have been unable to understand the meaning of the terms used in the theological formula on which the Church ultimately agreed” (God in Christian Thought and Experience, p.180). (The italics in the above quotations are the present writer’s.)

    Many sincere admirers of Christ may well feel disturbed at this plain assertion that his great Apostle Paul knew nothing of the Doctrine of the Trinity!

    How then did it arise?
    To answer this question we need to know when it arose. The answer is: not till 300-400 years after the days of Jesus and his apostles. It is a striking fact that the “early Church Fathers” — the theologians who wrote in the period 100-300 A.D. — knew nothing of it, and frequently uttered opinions which contradict it. For the majority of them there was no question of Jesus’ being “co-equal and co-eternal with the Father”. He was subordinate to God his Father, and was regarded as a “created Being”. The teachings which now make up the Doctrine of the Trinity were the decisions of a number of general Church Councils. These are the most significant:
    325 A.D. First General Council at Nicea, declared that the Son was from the beginning of the same nature as the Father.
    381 A.D. Second General Council at Constantinople, declared that the Holy Spirit was to be worshipped with the Father and the Son.
    431 A.D. Third General Council at Ephesus, decreed that Jesus had two natures, a human and a divine; also that Mary was the “mother of God”, in opposition to those who maintained that she was the “mother of Christ”.
    451 A.D. Fifth General Council at Chalcedon, decreed that the two natures in Christ constituted only one Person and one will.

    The progressive formulation of the Doctrine of the Trinity over a considerable period of time, is clearly shown when the major creeds of the Church are compared:

    The Apostles’ Creed, certainly an early Creed though its exact date is unknown, expresses the relationship between Christ and God thus:

    “. . . God the Father Almighty . . . Jesus Christ His only Son . . . conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary . . .” After his resurrection Christ “ascended into heaven, and sits on the right hand of God the Father Almighty, from whence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead . . .”

    This is in complete agreement with what the Bible says. But later creeds show many additions and a different view.

    The Nicene Creed, 325 A.D., declares that Jesus Christ is

    “the only begotten Son of God, begotten of his Father before all worlds . . . God of God, Very God of Very God, being of one substance with the Father . . . The Holy Ghost with the Father and Son together is worshipped and glorified . . .”

    The Athanasian Creed, of unknown date but certainly in existence soon after 500 A.D., is even more emphatic:

    “We worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity . . . there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, is all one; the Glory equal, the Majesty coeternal. The Father uncreate, the Son uncreate, and the Holy Ghost uncreate . . .” All are declared to be eternal, “yet they are not three eternals, but one eternal”. The Creed concludes with the ominous statement: “He that will be saved must think thus of the Trinity.”

    The new teaching about the Godhead aroused much opposition from those who claimed to be holding the original beliefs. The result was bitter controversy for over a century between the church leaders. The decisions of the Church Councils in the 4th and 5th centuries were the actions of the Church authorities determined to suppress all “rebels”. So the official Doctrine of the Trinity was elaborated and proclaimed, and its acceptance declared to be obligatory.

    What does the Bible say?
    Before Jesus Christ appeared, the writings of the Old Testament had for centuries been revered by the nation of Israel (the Jews) as the revelation of their God who had delivered them from Egypt at the Exodus. What impression had they gained about the nature of God? The answer is clear from the following quotation:

    “Having affirmed the existence of God, Judaism really lays down only one basic idea about Him which is a recognised dogma — the Unity of God. ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is One.’ This is immediately a negation of the polytheism of the ancient world with its numerous deities. It is a repudiation of the idea that there are two gods or two creative sources of existence, one of good and the other of evil. It is also a clear denial of the idea of a trinity — three gods in One which is the established doctrine of Christianity. For Judaism there can be absolutely no compromise at all in this fundamental concept of the Only One God who is the ultimate creative source of all life and death, the elements of nature and history and the power behind all forces, physical and spiritual” (C. Pearl and R. Brookes, A Guide to Jewish Knowledge, pp.96-97).

    To this day the orthodox Doctrine of the Trinity remains a great obstacle for any Jew inquiring into the Christian religion.

    In these days of hazy ideas we need to remind ourselves that the Old Testament we possess is the same collection of writings revered in Jesus’ day as the word of God. Jesus himself described them as “the law, the psalms and the prophets” and said that in them were prophecies of himself. In Psalm 2 we read:

    “Thou art my son; this day have I begotten thee. Ask of me, and I will give thee the nations for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession” (vv. 7-8).

    Certain clear conclusions arise: God has anointed one who is to rule for Him (“my King”) over all the nations of the earth. But he is God’s Son, because he has been “begotten”. The ruler is not God; he is the Son of God; and he began to exist on the day he was “begotten”. Like all sons, he is preceded by his Father. The whole of this general teaching is summed up in the first verse of the New Testament:

    “The book of the generation (or birth) of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham” (Matthew 1:1).

    Now when this “Son” first appeared among men, how does he regard himself? There can be no doubt about the answer: Jesus always speaks of himself as subordinate to the Father, as dependent upon Him for all his teaching and all his works. These are some of his own sayings:

    “The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do . . .” (John 5:19).
    “My teaching is not mine, but his that sent me” (7:16).
    “The Father is greater than I . . .” (14:28).

    When he is accused by the Jews of “making himself God”, he denies the charge and says, “I am the Son of God” (John 10:34-36). He even declines to allow himself to be called “good”. When he is addressed as “good master”, he replies:

    “Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is God” (Mark 10:18).

    In his great prophecy uttered shortly before he was crucified, Jesus speaks of his own coming back to the earth to reign:

    “Then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory . . . But of that day or that hour knoweth no one, not even the angels in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father” (Mark 13:26,32).

    When he has risen from the tomb, this is his message for the disciples:

    Back to my words If you need to read more go to the site, Click on Library and to Jesus: God the Son or Son of God? Your Messenger!

  • thelionoftruth

    I was over at the cancer cure blog! It ended at about only 80 post! I can’t believe there is
    more concern about building structure than the absolute cure for cancer!
    800 posts to 80 Ten times the concern! Wow!

  • thelionoftruth

    If you don’t go and read the whole descriptions in
    the rest of the book I don’t know what to tell you!
    God’s truth is something that needs seeking if you don’t have time! God will not have time! for you!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C6AAO4YXWNA2KQ2ORAH7QWLZAM One_Man_Army

    I hate to say this, because it does appear you are really trying to see the light, but the REAL deceiver here is you.  John 1:1 doesn’t just say that Jesus was in God’s thoughts.  It tells us that Jesus was both WITH God and WAS God, period.  You are deceiving others by saying Jesus Christ wasn’t God when He absolutely, 100% was, is, and forever will be.  You actually explained quite perfectly what the Trinity is there, you know, when you state that the Holy Spirit is the direct connection between God, Jesus, and mankind.  Adam and Eve are TOTALLY different.  They were NOT God.  They were created by God.  Jesus, however, was NOT created.  He was there with God, and He was God, in the very beginning.  This is made clear in the Book of John.

    Also, you are very deceitful when you claim C. S. Lewis didn’t accept the Doctrine of the Trinity.  He very clearly did.  You can see the Trinity Doctrine very clearly throughout the Chronicles of Narnia series of books.  Also, I take you to C. S. Lewis’s own words in Mere Christianity.  Here are a few of Lewis’s own words for you.

    “In God’s dimension, so to speak, you find a being who is three Persons while remaining one being, just as a cube is six squares while remaining one cube. Of course, we cannot fully conceive a Being like that: just as, if we were so made that we perceive only two dimensions in space we could never properly imagine a cube.”

    “An ordinary simple Christian kneels down to say his prayers. He is trying to get into touch with God. But if he is a Christian he knows what is prompting him to pray is also God: God, so to speak, inside him. But he also knows that all his real knowledge of God comes through Christ, the Man who was God–that Christ is standing right beside him, helping him to pray, praying for him. You see what is happening. God is the thing to which he is praying – the goal he is trying to reach. God is also the thing inside him which is pushing him on – the motive power. God is also the road or bridge along which he is being pushed to that goal. So that the whole threefold life of the three-personal Being is actually going on in that ordinary little bedroom where an ordinary man is saying his prayers.”

    “I said a few pages back that God is a Being which contains three Persons while remaining one Being. . . . But as soon as I begin trying to explain how these Persons are connected I have to use words which make it sound as if one of them was there before the others. The First Person is called the Father and the Second the Son. We say that the First begets or produces the second; we call it begetting, not making, because what He produces is of the same kind as Himself. In that way the word Father is the only word to use. But unfortunately it suggests that He is there first — just as a human father exists before his son. . . . we must think of the Son always, so to speak, streaming forth from the Father, like light from a lamp, or heat from a fire, or thoughts from a mind. He is the self-expression of the father — what the father has to say. And there was never a time when He was not saying it.”

    “Before going on, notice the practical importance of this. All sorts of people are fond of repeating the Christian statement that ‘God is love.’ But, they seem not to notice that the words ‘God is love’ have no real meaning unless God contains at least two persons. Love is something that one person has for another person. If God was a single person, then before the world was made, he was not love.”

    “God is not a static thing–not even a person–but a dynamic, pulsating activity, a life, almost a kind of drama. Almost, if you will not think me irreverent, a kind of dance. The union between the Father and Son is such a live concrete thing that this union itself is also a Person. I know this is almost inconceivable, but look at it thus. You know that among human beings, when they get together in a family, or a club, or a trade union, people talk about the ‘spirit’ of that family, or club, or trade union. They talk about its ‘spirit’ because the individual members, when they are together, really develop particular ways of talking and behaving which they would not have if they were apart. It is as if some sort of communal personality came into existence. But of course, it is not a real person: it is only rather like a person. But that is just one of the differences between God and us. What grows out of the joint life of the Father and Son is a real Person, is in fact the Third of the Three Persons who are God.”

    Now, those are direct quotations from C. S. Lewis himself and prove, beyond ALL doubt, that Lewis believed in the Holy Trinity of the Triune God.  The ONLY deceiver I see here is you, and I truly hate to say that because it does sound like you are almost there.  There is absolutely no deceit with the Trinity.  The Trinity is clearly described as God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit in the Book of John.  This Truth is as real as you and me.  This Truth is as real as the time of day.  My definitions are NOT the deceits of men following the first liar the Serpent.  My definitions are straight from Biblical Doctrine.  I can reiterate what you said here.  “If you don’t see this. Fine! But be prepared to pay the consequences that God is every day warning us of.”  You are the deceiver here.  Not me.  I only describe what the Bible itself describes.  Bringing up Adam and Eve as you did is grasping at straws because they were clearly NOT part of the Godhead and the Bible didn’t describe them as such.  The Bible describes them as being created in God’s image.  However, the Bible clearly describes Jesus Christ as God the Son.  The Bible also makes clear that Jesus Christ was NOT created.  Jesus Christ was there with God in the beginning.  Jesus Christ WAS God.  I take you back to John 1:1 again.  “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”  This describes the first part of the Holy Trinity Doctrine.  Verse 14 states, “The Word became flesh and made His dwelling among us. We have seen His glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.”  This defines the Word in John 1:1 as Jesus Christ becoming flesh, as God the Son coming forth from God the Father.  Verse 32 states, “I saw the Spirit come down from heaven as a dove and remain on Him.”  This very clearly states that the Spirit is the third person of God.  As you said, “If you don’t see this. Fine! But be prepared to pay the consequences that God is every day warning us of.”  The only deceit I see here is actually coming from you.

    Now, I want to take the time now to apologize for my attitude in this particular post.  I can definitely see it as being condescending.  However, I don’t really have a better way to express my feelings to the Biblical Truth that is the Holy Trinity as described in the Bible.  And to be called deceitful, by you thelionoftruth, when ALL I’m doing is using Biblical Doctrine to describe the 100% Truth of the Trinity and to describe C. S. Lewis’s ACTUAL feelings of the Trinity using words straight from him in Mere Christianity, I find offensive and appalling.  I know the Truth that is the Trinity.  It’s NOT a false belief but a 100% true one.  Because I believe in the Trinity, I know I am right with God.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C6AAO4YXWNA2KQ2ORAH7QWLZAM One_Man_Army

    True.  The nature of the Holy Trinity, the Triune God, is, in truth, beyond our understanding, as it ought to be.  God, Himself, is beyond our understanding.  We are mere men.  We are mere mortals.  We cannot ever truly come to understand the ever living, ever knowing, ever loving being that is God.  He is far beyond anyone’s understanding.  We can come to know Him, and we can come to love Him.  However, we can never truly understand His nature, simply because we are mere humans given the gift of life through His Glory.

  • thelionoftruth

    Go and read all! of (Jesus: God the Son or Son of God?)
    it explains all of what you ask!

  • thelionoftruth

    God wants you to know His Plan and Purpose of why He
    Created Mankind For only His Purpose! He wants us to know!!! what he has planned for us His Created Beings To do for Him in His Salvation on His Terms!!!
    You don’t see that???

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C6AAO4YXWNA2KQ2ORAH7QWLZAM One_Man_Army

    Actually, lionoftruth, I DO see that.  That is why I firmly believe in the Holy Trinity as described in the Bible.  God does want us to know what He has planned for us.  That is why there is a Biblical Trinity in the first place.  You are right on one thing here.  “God’s truth is something that needs seeking if you don’t have time! God will not have time for you!”

    I have accepted the Truth.  I have accepted the Truth of the Holy Trinity.  Though it seems you have not.  I will end this quick post with your own statement and than a question for you to ponder to help you on your own journey, okay.  “The Truth is a hard thing to accept.”  So, why don’t you accept the 100% Biblical Truth of the Holy Trinity, which is a Doctrine which comes straight from the Bible?  I don’t need the answer to this question.  The answer is between you and God alone.  Seek Him and you’ll receive your answer.  I can assure you, though, that there is absolutely NOTHING deceitful about the Biblical Trinity.  The Biblical Trinity is, without a doubt, 100% eternal Truth.  Go and read Mere Christianity by C. S. Lewis.  He describes the concept better than I ever could.

  • Ryan Frederick

    i think i started an holy war with out wanting to.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C6AAO4YXWNA2KQ2ORAH7QWLZAM One_Man_Army

    Nope.  Not you, Ryan.  More likely me.  To be honest, I was a bit condescending to lionoftruth.  You, however, weren’t.  If anyone started a holy war here, it is me.  I butted in where I probably should not have.  Even thought thelionoftruth and I don’t seem to agree on the Biblical Truth of the Trinity, we still agree in other areas.  I just pray that he opens up to the Truth of the Trinity soon.

  • Anonymous

    “Maybe”, rememer the lives my man. Everyone should jsut take it easy alittle haha. We love all those that were lossed however we need to be understand also. Just a alittle suggestion. :)

  • Ryan Frederick

    i am the one that brought up Joe White that set him off.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C6AAO4YXWNA2KQ2ORAH7QWLZAM One_Man_Army

    Must have missed that comment.  Anyway, why would someone like Joe White set him off?  Joe White only expresses his belief in the Trinity the same way all good Christians should.  Oh well.  All I know is that I pray for him, just as I pray for all to seek the light.

  • Ryan Frederick

    if you ever have the chance you have to see him speak.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1094229182 Susan Howard

    What?  Why?   Isn’t South Korea supposed to be our ally?  Don’t they still want our military presence in their country?  What’s their beef? This was NOT accidental.  Can anyone doubt this?  This is a hideous, cruel action aimed at all Americans, but especially of all the victims of 9/11, whether dead or alive…the families, the survivors who are sick, the NYPD and the NYFD.  We should demand and explanation  for this heinous deed and permanent  visible image of the greatest attack on America ever.

  • thelionoftruth

    So either you didn’t read the pamphlet or you didn’t
    understand it! You then continue the trinity deceit. I ask you after looking at this book why do you think God did not reveal this to his seeking believers, to His Godly angels, to His fervent studiers. Why do you think
    God would deceive His own! Are we! out to deceive? Does
    God reject us trying to reveal His true doctrines! Do
    you provide God’s principles! To others? Have you asked
    For God’s Holy Spirit For Guidance? Have you placed all
    your efforts to promote God’s Plan and Purpose?
    Then you can say and prove me wrong! and not hope I will come to Yahweh’s truth without learning how but
    just blind belief! I think not! Who would know more!
    your belief! or my belief. Then tell me what you! know so as I will come to the truth! of God. Because I now as you say clearly, see what I have been revealed! That’s why I try to reveal to others that I believe is the truth of God! I’m not sure of your mindset, but I see the logic of God’s revelations to us as Messengers!
    of God the Elohim, or Godly angel! Hmmm! ANGEL?!
    ANGEL Means Messenger! Your Messenger! Forever with God!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C6AAO4YXWNA2KQ2ORAH7QWLZAM One_Man_Army

    Nope.  I DID read the pamphlet, and the pamphlet is wrong, period.  The ONLY deceitful one here is YOU.  God DID reveal the trinity to His seeking believers, to His Godly angels, to His fervent students.  It’s called the book of John.  The Book of John reveals the Trinity to ALL who read it.  God’s not deceiving anyone.  Though you are with your rampant assertion that the Trinity is man’s deceit.  It is NOT and can NEVER be.  Anything that goes against the Bible, which your opposition of the Holy Trinity does, is, and FOREVER will be, wrong and trying to do nothing but deceive God’s children and turn them away from His Truth.  The Trinity IS, without a doubt, the 100% God for honest Truth.  Anyone or anything that says differently is destroying God’s everlasting words because His words make the Truth of His Trinity clear.

    Look, I’m beginning to wonder whether you care for God’s Truth or not.  Your rampant opposition to a Doctrine that is so clearly present in the Bible makes me wonder about you.  Your lie that C. S. Lewis supports your assumption that there is no Holy Trinity I find extremely appalling to C. S. Lewis’s life’s work.  He dedicated his life to his Christian faith and made quite clear that he firmly believed in the Doctrine of the Trinity, and now you twist his beliefs, which he made quite clear in the Narnia series and in Mere Christianity, to fit something he most certainly did NOT believe.  It’s appalling.  I do hope and pray that in your seeking you will eventually find the eternal Truth you seek.  But as long as you don’t accept the eternal Truths as revealed throughout God’s words, such as the Holy Trinity, I don’t know if you will ever find it.

    God Bless.  I hope you find the Truth you seek.  But if you keep calling the Trinity deceit, you will NEVER come to find it.  The Holy Trinity is NOT deceit.  God reveals it throughout the New Testament.  Your assertion and the assertion provided by that pamphlet that the Trinity Doctrine didn’t come until 3 to 4 hundred years later is a flat out lie.  The Doctrine of the Trinity was revealed to God’s followers the very second the Bible was written.  The Bible Itself proves it.

  • Ryan Frederick

    God the Son.

  • Anonymous

    It doesn’t really resemble the twin towers… exactly. First of all the World Trade Center Towers were the Exact same height standing side by side oriented the same direction. Second the planes hit at TWO different levels with one hitting high and the other hitting in the middle. These to show a cloud surrounding the buildings at the same level. They are on an angle, not square to each other and one is clearly higher than the other. There are many different shapes and angles that in no way resemble the twin towers. The designer obviously had no intention of insulting the American public or the families who lost loved ones. He or she did issue and apology which indicates they acknowledge the sensitive nature of the subject. But architecturally, it is a master piece. 
    I don’t want anyone to just “get over it,” that was a horrible day for all of us. I just want you to see that while, yes there is visual imagery that does remind us of the 9/11 attacks, this is just an architectural design and its very well done at that. The designer is only trying to give the illusion of buildings rising into the clouds, nothing more. Please see it for what it is. America, we pride ourselves for allowing others to be who they are and letting their creativity shine. Let’s remember that and get back to that.

  • thelionoftruth

    Well I know you wont be convinced so I will not respond to your post any more. But it’s sad that you have no light! My only hope for you is I pray one day you will see! And that God will guide you to Him. Good night and good bye sir.

  • thelionoftruth

    That’s Funny Ryan, be well. Holy Spirit is a terrible
    thing to waste. Literally.

  • Anonymous

    The only thing missing from that design is the people falling to their death from the top floors.  Would a few of you ‘forgive and forget’ tree-hugging, mother-earth-is-God, Bafoons like to volunteer?

  • Ryan Frederick

    one thing we do agree on.

  • thelionoftruth

    Oh Ryan! you know we agree on most things! But
    knowledge will teach you more. When you will give God
    the opportunity! Not me! But God!

  • Anonymous

    I can agree with Glenn Beck on most of what he stands for but, in this case, I cannot go along. This is a piece of architectural design that uses a cluster effect to integrate the two towers at the middle. There are many cluster themes in architecture, like Moshe Safdie’s Habitat in Montreal. Instead of simply designing a floating box-like plinth connecting the two towers, the architect wanted to have a look that was more organic. I believe that it is merely a coincidence that some people see the explosions of the World Trade Centre, in this design. I don’t think that there was any intention of insulting Americans. I am an architect myself.

  • Ryan Frederick

    i was following to many people.

  • Ryan Frederick

    i was following to many people.

  • Anonymous

    Perception is everything, true enough!  This would not be an issue if the designer(s) would have told the world that they were going to erect a building in remembrance of 9/11 and to honor all who lost their lives on that tragic day. Is it required of them?  Not at all!  Would it have made all the difference in the world?  You betcha!

  • White Bishop

    Why is everyone blaming the South Korean government and not the American designer(Daniel Libeskind) that came up with this design? or the designing company(MVRDV) that said that they had no intention of changing the design even after the controversy?

  • http://www.facebook.com/harpernicus Guy Harper

    I don’t see a plane motif. The resemblance is serendipitous. ’9/11 insult’ sounds like news manufacturing. I don’t think people are over-reacting. They are mis-reacting.

  • Anonymous

    Of course this is built to replicate 911. Their would be no other reason to build such a freakish monstrosity. It is as ugly as the original event, and is an obvious intent to celebrate 911. It is disgusting beyond the pale, but it is Korea after all.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_B56PRPIU2CGDWIQUWK6543E2YI Brian

    Keep on insulting the US OF A I DARE YOU. You are truly unpatriotic. Granted this country is on a downhill slide but we are still the only superpower left in the world and if you live here GET OUT!! LOSER
     

  • Todd Wombwell

    This could be a memorial to what happened so that no one forgets. Maybe looking at the positive side of things might make things better.

  • Anonymous

    I think you know  Glen that 9/11 was an inside job…why does the media try to hide this from us…the disgrace is the ones responsible have never been held accountable…they needed 9/11 it was the push to the NWO….it gave us Home land Security which is the law enforcement that will take us down…put us in their ready built concentration camps…force us to take the RFID Mark of the Beast…you know satan’s little chip…why don’t they just be honest…come get your satan’s chip…sell your soul to the devil…if you don’t take it voluntarily we will come and get you force it on you…if you refuse the guillotine awaits you.

  • ahmed jozi

    it’s very cool design I hope they build it ! 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ian-Chef-Bro-aredee-Sullivan/1030581241 Ian Chef Bro-aredee Sullivan

    dude thats fucked up right there

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1200603948 Ahmed Hoang

    wow, really guys. Have any of you thought of 240k+ people that died in Japan? They are over it already, it is 30x more worse and even now some of those people that lived in Nagasaki or Hiroshima are physically affected because of the radiation. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Debbie-Hunt/100001530572759 Debbie Hunt

    This is SOOOO disturbing!!! We know exactly what they intended.

  • Anonymous

    Who just decides to make a building resembling the twin towers under attack? Calling it a cloud? BS. This image has been shown on every television around the world and the designer is a liar in saying he didn’t see the resemblance. Oh and anyone who thinks it’s no big deal to be attacked on our own soil or abroad (whether or not anyone dies) should go live in the middle east where there’s plenty of that going on.

  • Anonymous

    Crazy conspiracist

  • Anonymous

    Hopefully you’ll do better than this architect and use some common sense when designing

  • http://mentalsticky.com/ Y.Ethan.P

    I think it’s a bit irresponsible to make major assumptions based on a short news article and a photo. Also, some of you idiots pointing fingers at S. Korea do realize that the MVRDV architecture company is from the Netherlands, right? Reading these articles isn’t what really shows me human stupidity; it’s actually the comments below that get that job done.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/EQ2AXRYMCOETWBX45IZQFDCETE Edmond

    AL III.71: Hail! ye twin warriors about the pillars of the world! for your time is nigh at hand.AL III.73: Paste the sheets from right to left and from top to bottom: then behold!
    Aleister Crowley 1904

    Im mysteriously wondering who’re these people here commenting like they know nothing…
    these days even the children sucking their thumbs knows 9/11 was a 
    DAMN PRE-prepared operation 

    and the PRE here is not what u’re currently thinking about
    it doesn’t mean that they were planning on bringing down the towers from many years ago, but it MEANS THEY’D BUILT THE TOWERS TO BRING IT DOWN IN 9/11

    now people have gathered here, crying “ohhh no! they hurt our feelings again”

    i think now is the time to start blaming ur heavenly freedom-protecting government for ur disasters rather than hating other nations for what they havent done
    something they CANT AND COULDNT DONE IN A THOUSANDS YEARS 

    what u’re seeing right now in south Korea is just a presentation of Masonic Brotherhood
    showing the loyalty to the Club, they’re just saying “the sacrifice for Lucifer should be remember here too COZ WE ARE HERE TOO”
    thats all
    and YEAH…! WHO DARE TO INDICATE THE 9/11, WE’RE JUST ARCHITECTING  XD

    i suggest my fellow Americans, dont busy ur minds to these conspiracy theories 
    go and FOLLOW the news in CNN and FOX news
    u’ll definitely find the REAL TRUTH in there

    and let the Zionist Jews avenge THE Holy Holocaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaust where billions of billions of billions of people, animals, birds, aliens and trees raped, killed, gangbanged, hardcored, DPed, and forced to transform to Nike shoes, cheese, and soaps

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Darnel-L-Williams/562816507 Darnel L. Williams

    I know the attack on our land was a hard one to bare…. Many people suffered loses and more became fearful of what could happen next…. However… What they do over there and what they build over there, do not reflect what I do here today.. I don’t have to go view this building or show it any support.. I don’t live their, nor would I want to… And what I don’t understand is why people care about what they do… I’m sure the builders thought nothing of it when they created the design and the buyers did the same when they paid for the construction..Nothing can be done.. they can’t turn back the choice that they made to build it. And even if they did built this with the purpose to insult our people… Who cares??? Carma is a Bitch and if that is the case, then they will get theirs in the end.. if they haven’t gotten it already…. Also what can anyone here do t stop it…. Nothing…. What are you going to do… Ask that we start another war… and Kill thousand of more people over it?… Lets all just take the peaceful road… and just ignore them and the building all together.  A few days from now… I will have forgotten all about them and I still don’t know where Korea is… So Ha…

  • http://www.facebook.com/antonahwang Anton Czekhov

    Im sorry but this is ridiculous. America was founded on the ideals of independence and personal freedom. How then can we as Americans go to one of our closest allies and demand they not construct an architectural wonder because we are projecting our own insecurities about 9/11 on a building halfway across the world? Where is the American spirit in that? If you begin to compromise the principles our nation was founded on because of 9/11 then the terrorists are getting exactly what they wanted! I rather see a building loosely resemble 9/11 than be terrorized into submission!

  • Anonymous

    This isn’t America, it’s Korea and 21 Korean nationals lost their lives at 9/11 attack.

  • http://www.facebook.com/timothy.m.diggs Timothy M. Diggs

    Boo on you! That’s a cool Idea. Out instead of up, innovation at its best. Love and peace to those who have & were lost in the horrific events of 9-11. 

  • Nate

    Seriously, it was not their loss, why would they want to build this? Just for the reason of infuriating America? I doubt that they are doing this for no reason, they have hundreds of strange structures and buildings. Come on guys, stop being so self conscious of yourselves. We are America, we have someone kick us while were down and we get back up and move on. It’s time now to move on…