Interesting is it not when the truth starts to be shined where there is darkness, just how loud the darkness roars?

I’ve decided not to waste my vote by voting for the candidate the “GOP machine”  picks for me. Yep, instead, I’m voting for Michele Bachmann. It’s never a wasted vote when you vote your conscience.

Beck your “friends” at Think Progress, DemocraticUnderground and Media Matters have picked up YOUR words to attack the Tea Party.

It must be depressing for gb these days.
After he was fired from Fox and pushed into obscurity he now needs to make outlandish claims in order to keep his ego in the headlines and cling onto the last moments of stardom.
Here is just another example.  It is like watching a punch drunk boxer fight in some 50$ warehouse fight.

No but voting your conscience will have consequences. How do I know this? I voted for Ross Perot. Turns out he was exactly right in what he was trying to tell the American people but he didn’t get elected. Who did? “I never had sex with that woman” Bill Clinton. I will not make the same mistake again. I will vote for whoever the nominee is once he/she is picked by the nominating process. I am most closely aligned with the only true conservative, sorry Glenn, it ain’t Bachman or Santorum, Ron Paul. He is more like our Founding Fathers than ANY other candidate. And he understands economics unlike ANY of the other candidates. But if he doesn’t make it I will vote for whoever it is that can replace our Communist in Chief. The United States of America cannot withstand 4 more years of Barack Hussein Obama. He is evil personified in a human being and should be removed. 

Tea Party, unfortunately, has become very hypocritical.  Instead of standing with small government values, they do the flip opposite.  For ex, Rep West voted for the indefinite detention bill and raising the debt cieling.  Bachmann is the same way – she speaks of a few principles, but rarely, carries thru. 

Voting record and positions of Tea Party is not consistent with their rhetoric of small government.

I understand your point Glenn, and I hope it generates the effects you are looking for. But not all of us Tea Party people have failed to recognize the danger contained in Newt. I am with you on Backman or Santorum. Then again maybe we needed you to go Moses on us.

Bill Clinton was much better than George Bush ever was.  So good thing Ross Perot came along.  Clinton took his party to the center.  Another George Bush sr term would have been awful, just as another term of George Bush jr was devastating as it paved the way for people to accept Obama among many other things. 

So, I would just vote on conscience and let the democratic process tally the votes.  Or write in RP’s name if the GOP nominee is as heinous as Obama. 

I do know the truth and the truth is I KNOW Michele is the best choice..but she can’t be elected because WE ARE PREJUDICED against women. Our society has taught that every bad thing that has ever happened, has been some woman’s fault..starting with Eve. 

their will be dragons.

and people wonder why most want to go independent.

You’re a ling sack of crap. You denied serving on a submarine, and knowing what SSBN was. I posted your words verbatim.

You’re a Wikipedia sailor and a lying puke.

Here’s your “one on one” you little puke of a man.

1. As mtclayboy you claimed that you served on a BOOMER. As strtlk you claimed not to know what a Boomer or a SSBN was “I don’t care” were your exact words. You also stated that you didn’t know where Bangor, Wa. was which is where Boomers (submarines) are fitted for duty.
Any real Submariner would know that. You didn’t!

2. You then changed your story and claimed that you were on a BOOMER. You lied.

3. As mtclayboy you claimed that you had damaged your ears while serving on a Submarine. As strtlk, you claimed that you damaged your ears while serving on a submarine.

4. As mtclayboy you claimed that you joined the Navy and served for five years on a submarine but according to the timeline you gave that was proven to be a lie. You lied.

5. As mtclayboy you said that you were a Fireman. As strtlk, you claimed you were a Fireman.

6. As mtclayboy and as strtlk, you posted the same bigotry and hate against Glenn Beck almost word for word even using the same spelling and grammatical errors and focusing on the children. I’ve posted many of them here already.

Are you catching on everyone? He’s a liar plain and simple and nothing he claims can be believed.

Folks, I have the posts of these two Phonies and have posted just a couple to prove he is a liar and just makes up stories about his Military Service. His latest story is right out of Wikipedia. His classified VMS crap is also right out of Wikipedia and US NAVY.mil. I’m a member there.

He wants to take me on “one on one” when he’s already proven in his own words that he’s a liar and a fake.

Flag the idiot so he can come back as another looser like his other fake ID “Vinny” where hes a 10 year Army Sargent on another classified secret mission that he can’t talk about.

There you go looser, “one on one” only I backed up my posts with facts and your own words as proof. Why don’t you have the balls to admit to your lies, tuck your head up your A$$, take your bigotry and hate and Phony Soldier ID and leave us honest people alone?

Once again, Here you are caught in your lies. These are your words verbatim:

strtlk said: on Hollywood elites want to be taxed more 09/24/11 07:51 PM

“1. No idea where Bangor, WA is. I thought Bangor was in Maine!
2. What the heck is a “Boomer” or SSBN? You know what…I don’t care!
3. Reminding people that glenn was a dead beat dad is a factual statement about him, not his innocent children. Nice try though slime ball.
3. Either talk about something relevant and stop this, you are jason bourne crap!”

Caught in your lies strtlk.

Thanks for proving me correct.

Folks, strtlk/mtclayboy has been caught in his lies, He’s a lying sack of crap.

“TMP”

Beck, what did Ronald Reagan say about talking about other Conservatives? You might not THINK they are Conservative, but they are. Maybe not your type of Conservative, but Gingrich is better than a FAR LEFT Liberal socialist.

Than to say if Conservatives vote for Gingrich they are probably RACIST…is SICKENING. Those are Progressive talking points, Glenn.

RON PAUL is the only person a REAL tea party member would even consider voting for.
Period.

God Bless Glenn Beck.  The political Alchemy of the far left GOP or the way far left of the Dems has led to this mess.  Big government of any flavor is an attempt to replace our dependency on God with dependency on man’s government, aka., man becoming like gods.  Same crap that got us tossed from the garden.  To quote Dr Phil, “How’s that working for ya.”

http://www.BornAgainHeathens.com  

 “If you have a big government progressive, or a big government progressive in Obama… ask yourself this, Tea Party: is it about Obama’s race? Because that’s what it appears to be to me. If you’re against him but you’re for this guy, it must be about race. I mean, what else is it? It’s the policies that matter.”

What is it that you’re saying, Beck?  Are you saying the Tea Party is racist because we don’t support Obama, or because we don’t support his policies? The two are not mutually exclusive. Regardless of his pigment, he’s still a Marxist loser.  That probably makes me a racist in your book.

Spoken like a true goose stepping Paul Tard. You either suffer from arrested development or are an immature 18 year old. You obviously don’t know squat about politics or recent political history, and you obviously don’t understand the threat of Progressivism, or where it comes from. Do your country a favor and don’t vote.

Bill Clinton signed the revised Community Reinvestment Act that precipitated the economic failure. He completely failed as CIC and allowed Bin Laden to escape his grasp. While hewas president, Hillary and George Soros created the Shadow Party, out of which came the presidency of America’s bete noire, Barack Obama.

If you think there is a candidate on the right who is as destructive to this nation as Obama, you need a brain transplant. You’re a moron.

Whether you like it or not always remember “The Media Rules.” America lives under a dictatorship already. 

No, Tea Party people aren’t rigid ideologues and know better than to vote for people with no executive experience, foreign policy sanity, or ability to handle ambiguity.

If Beck will switch and support Paul on a 3rd party ticket, Beck and Paul are unpatriotic! Because if Paul does, and Beck inspire 100 of thousands to vote for Paul versus the repub nom, then Obama gets back in with ease  // divides up and takes away republican votes. – and that will then be 100 times worse than Newt could ever be. Thus, it would be unpatriotic and perhaps treasonous. Take that Beck!

What a shock…Dogmatic Libertarians and ubber right-wing Conservatives misreading a large portion of TEA Party supporters.  They assumed that those of us who are center-right Independents, conservative Democrats (still in the closet), and moderate Republicans would automatically adhere to ubber-Conservative dogma.  

We are NOT and NEVER will be pigeon-holed to either far end of the political spectrum.  Many of us are business people who are looking for honesty, boldness, intelligence, and pragmatic solutions to huge problems.  We are tired of litmus test pablum and hollow rhetoric.  We want leaders who will boldly but intelligently fight the fight.  Go toe to toe with intelligence and respond using facts and figures, not “gotcha” empty slogans that are red meat for whatever group they are pandering to at the moment.  

So please hear this, many original TEA supporters, like me, will say it once again, “This is not about left or right, Republican or Democrat, your politics of winning and losing.  It’s more important than that, it’s about our lives”.

We’re serious about our lives and country and will not play the political games of the past.  Not the games of the left.  Not the games of the right.

I agree. Beck needs to consider the effect of living in an ideological echo chamber with a bunch of sycophants who suck-up to him because it pays well. It is effecting his judgement, and very adversely. I understand what he is trying to say, but he is wrong. There is no equivancy between the Neo-Communist Democrat Party and the rightward trending Republican Party, and for Beck to make these comments, especially voting for Paul on a third party ticket, is simply foolish. Beck is frozen in the recent past, where the Republicans were trending Left. If he wants to help move the center to the right, he shouldn’t be acting as a divider. Why is he doing the Left’s job for them? Isn’t Beck smart enough to see the we need right trending incrementalism and unity, not reckless statements and divisiveness? I believe he is more than intelligent enough to see that, but is becoming fixed ideologically and isn’t maintaining the objectivity that in the past allowed his visionary nature to see clearly. Ideology clouds vision.

Before any Paulbots or Beck followers get all worked up, I have defended Glenn from the very beginning, but his recent comments are either lacking clarity or just plain foolish, I’m sorry to say. I especially find his comment about voting for Paul on a third party ticket to be frankly idiotic. That would guarantee Obama’s re-election, which would be the end of this democratic republic, meaningful elections, gun rights, free speech, capitalism, and the right to own property, to name just a few of the things we’d lose.

I have been a Beck fan for a long time, but his reckless and inaccurate equivalencies are feeding the Left’s narrative and dividing the right at a time when we need unity. Glenn has pointed out how Progressives and their rigid, fanatical adherence to ideology is destroying the nation, but is oblivious to the destructive impact of his own ideologically driven comments. Beck is striving for purity while wallowing in the pig pen of politics. Purity IS NOT AN OPTION in any election, especially this one.

 The Republicans are not equal to the neo-communist Democratic Party, period! Voting for Ron Paul on a third party ticket would ensure that the real, admitted statists, ie. Obama and the Commiecrats, will win in 2012. The stupidity of that position is incalculable, for the following reason(s): if Beck’s greatest concern is Progressivism, and the Democrats are openly, radically Progressive, then voting for someone who will split the opposition to these Progressives means Beck is helping them win. Beck doesn’t seriously believe that the Republicans are all Progressives or even for those who are, are as radical. There is no one in the Democratic leadership that isn’t far left. The Republican Party has many members who are far right, including Ron Paul, Jim Demint, etc. Even if a Republican who is leaning Progressive became president, he has to answer to some extent to the Republicans in Congress, and he has to be concerned about re-election. Despite my frequent admiration for Beck, his position makes no sense, historically, logically, or strategically. We aren’t going to get a perfect candidate who satifies everyone’s ideological wish list, but as a leader on the right, Beck has the responsibility to use his God-given vision and judgement to facilitate the removal of Obama, the Soros proxy, from the oval office. I am truly amazed and apalled at Glen’s short-sightedness.

@truebearing, Agreed.  If Ron Paul runs 3rd party (no matter WHO the Republican nominee),
Obama’s reelection is guaranteed. It’s as simple as that.

This is the thing that makes me furious–to see all those libturds having a field day with this.  Beck is seriously deranged to have made such a comment.

I’m glad someone is pointing out the hypocrisy. Newt is more moderate and flips flops more than Romney, but also has personal and professional baggage that will make him unelectable. 

Glenn is confronting the Conservative Media Establishment and they are not happy. Rush Limbaugh won’t take on Newt because Rush is on his third marriage as well. Plus they are old buddies from way back.
Brietbart is attacking Glenn and doing what he did with Shirley Sherod: attacking before he had all the facts.
We need to look at the candidates without emotional involvement or we will get bamboozled.
 
 

I must admit that I am quite troubled by this sudden assertion that Gingrich is a “progressive.” Huh? Seriously? WTF is that supposed to mean? Sorry, Glenn, but you have lost me on this one.

Wasn’t it just three years ago that everyone on the Right was quietly hoping against hope that Mr. Newt would run against BHO? Yes, it was!

So…why is he being savaged as a “progressive?” I think that’s pure nonsense.

Is Newt perfect? NO!!
Look folks the reality is this: While we on the Right/Conservatives continue to search for the”perfect” candidate, the Left will unite behind BHO and kick our collective arses in the 2012 general. (See: McCain 2008)And PLEASE, you “Paulites” get something through your heads: While Ron Paul would make a fine Sec-Treas., he would be a *disaster* as president. Isolationist policies led us to WWII, and our late entry cost untold thousands of lives in Europe and England. Paul’s refusal to accept the realities of Islamo-facsism should scare the bat snot out of any thinking person.Bottom line: In all seriousness, if it comes down to voting for BHO or Newt is anyone with even an inkling of Conservative values going to vote for BHO? Gimme a break. Let’s cut the bulls*it nonsense and start talking about BEATING OBAMA, not how badly our own candidates suck. BHO et al will be doing that soon enough.BTW: The Left is hoping against hope that we nominate Romney, because they know BHO will destroy him at the altar of “Obamacare was his idea.”

I would gladly support Bachmann (I went to her rally in DC in 2010) or Santorum if i thought either had a chance. But I don’t think they do. That being the case, I will absolutely support Gingrich over Romney — that’s a no-brainer. 

Then you are NOT conservatives OR constitutionalists. You’re just progressive neo-con religionists.

I guess you aren’t a fan of our founding fathers then are you?

I have been a Beck follower for a long time now, and I don’t get Glenn on this one. While I don’t agree with every thing Newt has said or done in the past,he has also been pretty good on the conservative issues in the past. Look at some of the things he is done right,as for moral issues Newt has said that he has made mistakes and has asked forgiveness from God, as a Christian I can accept that no man is perfect and accept this. If this is all about Newt saying he admired Teddy Roosevelt you can admire someone and not agree with every thing they have done. I have not heard Glenn say anything like this about Newt, until Bachmann said it on his show and even Glenn stopped her in surprise. She is not perfect either, she has warts to, just like the rest of us. I can’t understand why Bachmann said this, or that Glenn would say it either. I think that is why Newt is in the lead now, he is not tearing every one else down to make him self look bigger,and that’s why Bachmann has went down in the polls, her attacks look personal and most people don’t like that kind of campaign anymore, I know I don’t. Newt is nothing like Obama, and would make a much better president. A vote for Paul as a third party is a vote for Obama, if Paul runs as a third party he would lose any respect that he has gotten over the years, and go down as the man that helped us lose the Constitution as it is now, the one that he says he loves so much.

You are an idiot to think this is about race or looks it.  Your Mormon holy garments are too tight and cutting of the circulation to your brain.

Yeah…  because balancing the budget four years running, and actually reforming a entitlement with free market principals (welfare) are JUST LIKE creating the ideological model for a government run National Healthcare  system.  /dripping sarcasm

I think when you really dig down to the nitty gritty…  what Glenn is saying is….

Balancing the budget for four years running, and reforming an entitlement with free market principals (welfare) are equivalent to what Barak Obama has been up to the last three years.

aka… Glenn Beck is a f’n MORON!

Yeah… the horrible danger of Newt….  because balancing the budget for four years running, and reforming an entitlement with free market principals (welfare) are just like Barak Obama’s policies. 

Right Glenn – no discernible difference in policy.   /venomous sarcasm

Whoever wins the GOP nomination is 1000xs a better choice than Obama.  Ron Paul is out of touch.  Bauchman and Santorum would be my running ticket, but it wont happen.  We have to be pragmatic here, sorry to say.  We all need to pray over this.

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I completely see where Glenn Beck is coming from with Gingrich. If you review Newt’s record he has always been for big government. He was one of the two or three Republican’s that voted for the creation of the Department of education under Jimmy Carter. He also voted for reinstatement of the Fairness Doctrine under Reagan and Reagan vetoed the bill. GIngrich was pushing for a national healthcare mandate through the 90′s and as late as this year , he also stated his support for a national healthcare mandate on Meet The Press.

Newt was a big proponent of Alvin Toffler and his book the Third Wave and I will guarantee you that if you read this book and if you are of the Tea Party mold then it will make you cringe. Newt had all of Congress read the book when he took over as Speaker. Ann Coulter wrote a very good article regarding the Tolflers and Newt this past week. You should look it up online and read it. I think it might give you a better perspective as to where Glenn is coming from on asserting that Newt is a GOP Progressive.

Newt is a career Washington insider. Big government is all Newt knows. Newt has made his millions from selling access to lawmakers to push through big government legislation; like he did with big pharma back in 2004 when he spoke to Congress about the importance of passing the expansive Medicare Prescription Part D legislation.

Ditto..I don’t understand how people can not see that Newt is big government and that he has thrived under big government and if anyone can use google his flip flops would dwarf Romney’s.

Good point…..Clinton,unlike Obama had the brains to move to the center. I wonder how Newt would have done as Speaker if he was dealing with a President Obama?

RON PAUL is the only candidate with integrity and competence.His record as a politician is of a saint.The neocon puppets are pushed ahead by the corporate media but this time the american people will not be fooled.http://chasvoice.blogspot.com/2011/11/real-newt-gingrich-part-1.htmlhttp://chasvoice.blogspot.com/2011/10/romneys-advisors-are-leftist-elites.html ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
PAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUL
2 0 1 2. “I predict future happiness for Americans , if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.” —-Thomas Jefferson

If you did not call us (the Tea Party) racist then what the he– was that comparison?  Newt Gingrich has some problems but compared to the Anti-Cristian Obama is no comparison.  Michelle is not electable as President.  She does not have the charisma that Palin has and that is absolutely needed to run this country.  Give us Palin and next best choice is Newt.  Look at the whole picture.
Who can speak more than one sentence besides those 2 named before you fall off your chair in a
dead slumber.  I loved Glen on TV but this idea of providing racism fodder for the ultimate racist Obama is disgusting.  This is a deep wound that I am afraid will fester in me for Beck……ceS

Thanks Glen for your courage to say this. I am a registered independent, and Huntsman probably my favorite pick, but his an the same area s yours. was just thinking the same thing a few days ago.  Newt is just as corrupt as Obama, just replacing the the blue mafia with the red (which does exist). I don’t always agree with you, but for someone who can’t vote in the primaries, thanx for the breath of fresh air.

Sorry folks, Glenn is right. The truth always hurt. Newt is the wrong choice. Period. Obama will be Newt and you can take it to the bank.  With Newt we are playing in the hands of left.

It was great that Newt was able to help build a Republican House majority in 94, but the way he lead Congress caused Congress to lose several Republican seats in 98. Clinton out maneuvered Gingrich and all many people remember is how Newt had a tantrum on Airforce one because he couldn’t sit up front with the president and thereby initiated the shutdown of Congress. It was great that Clinton shifted to the center and he and Newt were able to do welfare reform and balance the budget but to me Newt squandered his power and left the Republican brand weaker in the late 90′s.

It was very telling to me when conservative Congressman Peter King and Senator Tom Coburn expressed major concerns publicly about Newt’s lack of discipline,his condenscending manner and his impulsive verbal jabs as well as erratic style. These two congressmen are well respected and really had no motivations to do so, and as a matter of fact it could potentially hurt them politically,but they had the courage to speak up and not tow the Republican line.

Personally Newt makes me nervous.

Not a fair comparison between Gingrich and Obama.  Gingrich forced Clinton to balance the budget.  Obama overspent by $5 trillion.  Gingrich meaningly reformed welfare.  Obama has overseen the largest expansion of entitlements in history.  I am a bit surprised that someone who has made as many mistakes as Glenn in his life seems to believe that someone else is not able to learn and change.  I support the challenges to Gingrich, but would like to see him address them directly with the man, not say something as blatantly oversimplified as that Obama and Gingrich are identical.  And to bring up the “r” word is nothing but a publicity stunt.

um. mitt mate. mitt has a bunch of hypocrisy and flip flops to boot as well. so, by your assessment of newt, mitt is unelectable as well. hmmmm?

okay. so, great. now what? the alternative to newt is…? mitt has quite the progressive-esque record too. next = paul? too radical – never be taken seriously. perry needs to go back to texas – beyond that is out of his league. bachmann and santorum are believable conservatives but at this point, barring a miracle, they won’t survive the race much longer. 
    so, leighrow – though you intellectually have the facts down – perhaps –  what good is all that? so what? when the rubber meets the road, gonna throw it to obumma then?

The Pentagon cannot give up their puppet spokesperson

There are things I like about Paul. I agree that we as a country have over played ourselves in light of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence (and the Federalist papers etc etc). However, Ron is too radical of a change – his foreign policy makes him definitely unelectable. No one else other than Ronbots will go for that kind of jump at this point in time. It would be a great goal to get where Paul says we should be but is unrealistic and perhaps a fairytale to believe his ideas will fly right now. Silly to consider wasting a vote on him at this point and not on the GOP frontrunner – versus Obumma.

ahhhhhhh!!! maybe ted kaczynski was right. head for yer shack in the deep woods of montana – the govt is coming! oh, and bring yer freeze dried food too…. 25 years worth – that is.

Abandon strong conservative principles, and even in victory, we all lose.

so eloquently said… so, you suggest what??? how are we going to get there then? if we don’t do the best we can by voting for the best alternative to a definite degradation of America (voting for obvious and unashamed liberals), then in a generation, the electorate will be even dumber and helpless (because of liberal indoctrination through our schools and general media). Then, finding and voting for any kind of conservative will be extremely impossible more so. so, vote for moderates now – the best we can do at this point – and then groom and educate the electorate and future politicians as to how to be a real conservative. then, one day we will have a true conservative that will truly be embraced by a once again conservative society. takes a bit of pragmatism at this point.

First of all Glenn you CAN’T CO-OPT those that stick to their values and listen to their GUT.. why is everyone listening to the POLLS?? Here’s how SIMPLE it is to skew them.. I belong to BOTH the DNC and the RNC when they make political calls all as one had to do is LIE..that would make it appear that someone is AHEAD when in fact they are not.. NOW .. I have stated MANY times on the BLAZE (and other comment boards) that I do not have any intention of voting for NEWT or ROMNY..my GUT says they are PHONY.. ARROGANT.. and are JUST as bad as OBAMA.. BOTH are LIARS.. now NEWT has baggage I can’t ignore and that would be his divorces.. NOT that he got them but BOTH women were SICK at the time..to ME that is NOT a man of honor and while he asked GOD for FORGIVENESS .. I am a mere human and a women and think he’s a SLIME BALL.. nice that cause he’s now OLD he has settled down.. WHILE someones personal life doesn’t effect his Politics .. necessarily.. it effects how see them.. So GLENN as someone who is a TEA PARTY member NOT everyone believes the polls or NEWT.. nor likes his policies.. 

Beck is absolutely right with what he is saying!  Gingrich, Romney, Huntsman, are completely unacceptable as candidates!  And absent Sarah Palin, (who would be the absolute best to represent the Republican Party and true conservative values), then Michelle Bachmann is far and away the best candidate we can nominate!  Santorum would be great too, but he’s got baggage he will not be able to overcome.  Michelle Bachmann doesn’t have baggage   She is very principled, and a true conservative.

She was soaring when this process began, and then the media went after her with a vengence as they did sarah palin in 08.  SNL was running mockery’s of her weekly.  And we allowed the news media to turn us away from here, and on to a merry go round of everyone else!

Folks, we need to get behind Micheel Bachmann, period!  She is the true conservative in this race!   She is an individual with strong conservative principles and convictions!  Don’t sacrifice your principles to try to elect to elect obama “light.”  Stand strong against the BS media, and for a woman of strong tea party principles and convictions!  Vote Michelle Bachmann!!!  And make your voice for her loud and long!!!!! 

We can overcome the BS media, and we can overcome the rinos, and the progressives littering both parties that are trying to destroy our nation.

Star the campaign now – Michelle Bachmann for president!!!!!

Personally the candidates that I like are Romney, Bachman, Santorum and believe it or not I somewhat like Ron Paul..but his foreign policy scares me.
The reason why I like all four of these candidates is because they all have a very strong moral compass and they are true to their families. Which to me says much about their character.

I think Bachman and Paul are the most conservative and are probably closest to the Tea Party movement. I believe Santorum is conservative but I don’t recall the legislation and the bills he passed while in office so I can’t say for sure.

I have put much time in on studying Romney and this is where I probably disagree with many Blaze and Beck readers. Romney only served in government for 4 years as a governor of the most liberal state in the country,MA. The legislature was 87% liberal democrats who routinely over rode Romney’s vetos about 800 times.

When Romney became governor of MA the state had a 3 billion deficit and when Romney left there was a billion dollar surplus…sounds conservative to me. Romney also eliminated 2 departments and reduced the size of government by merging resources within government offices…sounds conservative to me. Romney vetoed stem cell research and he vetoed government funding of abortions. Romney vetoed in state tuition for illegal aliens and Romney gave the police the authority to enforce immigration law. Romney essentially had the current AZ law in MA. so all of these sound conservative as well.

Now for Romneycare. From what I have gathered from friends who live in MA is that the legislature was going to pass Universal Healthcare regardless of who was governor. Romney got involved and tried to find the most conservative cost effective approach and thus consulted with Heritage and people like Newt Gingrich who all supported the individual mandate. Romney then decided to apply the mandate for the 8% of the uninsured to buy private insurance so that their hospital costs would be covered and would not be a burden to the tax payers. Romneycare is only a 70 page bill and it is an absolute lie when people equate it to Obamacare.

So bottom line..I do not see how anyone can accuse Romney of being some big liberal progressive when he moved the most left leaning state to the Right.
Plus the fact that Romney is a fiscal conservative businessman who has profited quite well in the free market for 25 years. Romney is a capitalist and I happen to like free market capitalists. It is not instinctive for Romney to add waste and bureacracies to any system let alone government.

So in conclusion my first choice is Romney because of his resume in the private sector, and his experience as a governor running a state, and my second choice is definitely Bachmann.

Newt is not the best candidate for conservatives. The best one died of Alzheimer’s , and the 2nd best one decided not to run. And..I love Michelle Bachmann, having met her at a rally on the lawn of the Capitol building.  But Newt is the best candidate we have, because he is the only one the left and right both agree will fight Obama. It does us no good to have men who are smart but won’t fight or men who will fight but aren’t smart. I’m not electing a marriage counselor, but a man who will force the affirmative action Precedent out of office. We’ll have plenty of time to wrassle over policy after we get Barack “friend of murderer Raila Odinga” Obama out of office.  Beck went over the top as he always has with his “the 2 parties are no different” schtick. We have to “dance with the one that brung us” and right now that is Gingrich.  If he is even 10% more conservative than Obama that is a step in the right direction.

Glenn..To say that Newt Gingrich is ANYTHING  like Obama..cuts me to the quick!! THERE IS NO  REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE that is ANYTHING like Obama..ESPECIALLY NEWT..I’ve always been amazed at your ability to ‘SEE’ the TRUTH..But, buddy..you’ve completely MISSED this one..Newt’s the ONLY answer we have to START our country back to it’s destined place of opportunity..If YOU want your kids & their kids to HAVE ANY FUTURE…get your head outta your colon..& get with the necessary action to help the rest of us..than understand this..to get that started in 2012..& do what you can to aid in keeping the majority in the House as it is now..& help  get a majority in the Senate..sans Harry Reid…COMPRENDE AMIGO!!

I love Glenn – joined him in Israel, and long ago sent him many of the
works he cited regarding Progressivism.  And yes, there are
progressives, lots, in the Republican Party.  But Newt Gingrich is most
assuredly NOT one.  Glenn, in an unusual situation, has not done his
homework, and worse, has not placed ANY historical context on the issues
he raises.  He certainly has not placed any historical context on
Theodore Roosevelt, not my favorite President (Like Glenn, I believe
there is Washington, and everyone else).

Here’s Glenn’s list one by one and why he is wrong.

1)Climate change – Newt has not proposed ANY government plan to solve
it.  He has said that there is climate change, and oh, btw, there is,
but that we don’t know whether it is natural climatic cycles or man
made.  His original position on cap and trade, which was a CONSERVATIVE
idea 20 years ago, was to PRIVATIZE it. 

2) Individual Mandate – the individual mandate was originally proposed
by the Heritage Foundation, the leading CONSERVATIVE think tank as an
alternative to a full socialized medicine plan – Hillary Care.  Instead,
Newt managed to lead the fight against Hillary care so the entire point
became moot.

3) Ethanol Subsidies – I do agree that these are a mistake.  However,
Newt’s position here is that it is better to support American farmers
than to send money overseas for more oil.  The subsidies exist and have
since the Great Depression.  So, his support is wrong, but it is not his
proposal.

4) The Fairness Doctrine – it is simply incredible that Glenn would
bring this up.  This, again, was a CONSERVATIVE plan to combat the total
lack of Conservative voices in the media.  Once talk radio began to
become more evenhanded in the ’90′s he dropped his support and now that
it is being promoted by the left, he actively opposes it.

5) Federal intervention on education – this is simply false (I’ll
refrain from saying a lie).  Newt’s position is that any monies now
currently provided by the Federal government be bloc granted BACK TO THE
STATES, and used for Pell grants or the like to give parents the CHOICE
of schools, i.e. vouchers, to send their children to ANY school they
wish, including religious schools (this is as far from Progressive as
there is on the spectrum).

6) Paul Ryan’s budget bill – Another misstatement.  He absolutely did
not oppose his budget bill.  What I assume Glenn is discussing here is
the “right wing social engineering” quote.  This was in response, NOT
ABOUT PAUL RYAN’S plan, but when asked by David Gregory if the
Republicans should ram down our throats an unpopular plan like
Obamacare, that is how he responded. 

7) Immigration – the idea that we are going to round up 13 million
people and put them in cattle cars and send them back, is absurd.  Right
now ICE cannot find most of the illegals.  What does Newt propose? 
PRIVATIZING the system.  Using a private company to come up with a guest
worker card.  What does this do?  Add to the tax base of the country,
allow us to actually track immigrants, rather than the system now which
relies on voluntary compliance!!!  (I’m an illegal alien criminal and I
will voluntarily turn myself in!!! yeah, that will work).  What Newt
says is take those that are already paying taxes and in the system, and
allow them to not be deported but NOT BECOME CITIZENS.  Btw, a
progressive would say that immigrants are the great unwashed and we
should euthanize them or get rid of them, so certainly Newt’s proposal
is again, the very antithesis of Progressivism.

The Dept of Education – again, Glenn is missing the historic
context.  All one has to do is read the bill that ‘created it”.  There
was no creation of the DOE.  It was simply split off from the Dept. of
Health, Education and Welfare.  If you read the act, what it does is
demand that STATES have the control over education and the budget for
the new department was 13 MILLION.  Not only not an increase, but a
DECREASE in the amount of money spent on that part of the DHEW!!!!  So,
he voted for a Decrease in the size of government.  Now, it is true he
should have known that no Federal government dept ever remains small,
but that is a structural mistake, not philosophic.

Oh, and btw, the man who first proposed a Department of Education? 
Warren Harding, my second favorite President, who ushered in the roaring
’20′s by cutting the size of government 50% in 2 years and ended
Wilson’s depression of 1920.

Since all of us Paul supporters are so short sighted in your opinion, then you should take it to heart and vote the person whom we can support or we will short sightedly pick 3rd party.  You admit what you think of us, so if the establishment is itself too short sighted to take it into account, they deserve to lose their butts for putting up a big govt. liberal.  But that is what they would use to enrich themselves when they would gain the power instead of getting govt. right or left off our backs.  Pigs get fat but hogs get slaughtered. So perhaps the republican establishment should find a way other than govt. connections to make their money like Newt did.

Thanks Stephen. It is good to see someone actually, as Glenn likes to say, do your own homework and come to the same conclusion I have. While Newt may not be the “perfect” candidate everyone, including Glenn, is clamoring for (and good luck with that one) he does know his history and he does how government works. I would venture to guess most folks here have never read a single book he has written. They probably have no clue where he really stands on issues and have not done ANY homework except soak up the crap being thrown around by the MSM and others. Read his books people. Get off your butts and read his books. Become educated instead of being lead around like sheep to be slaughtered. I would be curious to know how many of Newts books Glenn has read. Or are we only to read Glenn’s books? By the way, I have and have read Glenn’s book as well. These are perilous times. Do you want someone who has been there, and actually cut the size of government and balanced the budget or 4 more years of Communist Obama who rose from the ash heap of Bill Ayers apartment? By the way, the ONLY candidate that truly follows The Constitution is Ron Paul. And please, stop with the isolationist BS. Ron Paul, like our Founders, you do remember those folks don’t you, is a non-interventionist with regard to foreign policy, NOT an isolationist as the MSM and the Republican “establishment” would have you believe. Do your homework people and stop buying into all of the lies. Off my soapbox for now. 

GOP PROGRESSIVE/LIBERALS like GINGRICH!!! Modern America! Have b’come AS TOXIC AS CARBON MONOXIDE ENCLOSING ON US! Let just tell U IMBECILES OUT THERE: The Theran, Havana, Caracas Alliance! “Axis in LATIN AMERICA” The Intl’ Atomic Energy WARNS in a recent report that Iran appears to have CONDUCTED ADVANCE RESEARCH on a MINIATURIZED “WARHEAD” that could be DELIVERED BY A MIDIUM RANGE MISSILES!!!! Iran clearly TRANSCENDING GEOGRAPHY, LANGUAGE & RELIGION!!!!The TRIO has b’come an “ILLICIT ECCENTRIC TRILATERAL POLITICAL, RELIGIOUS & CULTURAL  ALLIANCE/COALITION!! FIDEL CASTRO: A Marxist-Leninist Atheist! HUGO CHAVEZ: A PUTATIVE ‘Socialist ChriAHMOUD AHMADINEJAD: Islamic Fundamentalist Theocrat! An ANTI-AMERICAN “VIRULENT POLITICAL HOSTILE ALIGNMENT!!! Cuba & Venezuela have “BAND TOGETHER” in the SUPPORT Of IRAN’S BUILDING OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS!!! If GINGRICH b’comes our Prez, KISS AMERICA GOODBYE!!! This TRILATERAL ALLIES WILL B’COME A QUADRUPLE ALLIANCE!!! Americans 2 those of U BLINDED BY UR OWN MORONIC STUPIDITY WAKE UP & GET UR HEAD OUT OF UR…… B’FORE WE LOOSE AMERICA FOR GOOD!!! helena

If you agree with Glenn’s thoughts about food storage go to deniset.mygofoods.com and try the new foods or order a sample pack. The food is really good.

to the citizens look at both parties with open eyes, with known empty promises and the state of this nation as a whole. we as a nation must look back to the 1900s. this is wheere dems, repubs, and the like got into bed with corrupt industry leaders for profits. how can a vote be bought? what does it take to assure one candidate over the other ( not a free vote ). how can one company profit while the other falls? you know the answers. it can be obama, bush, kennedy, ford, nixon, roosevelt or whom ever. the citizens of this nation has been lied to for a hundred and eleven years. who gave the go ahead for manufacturing base of america to be lost? when saudi ( in the 70s ) turned off the faucet, which party stood up and said produce our own resources and produce fuel smarter cars, who? health care, welfare of the citizens and the liberties or our citizens are ditated by who through what entity? in the 1900s the american KINGSHIP was established in the white house and the state houses. this is the whole that glenn is attempting citizens to see. this nation is but an infant compared to the nations of the world. we dig up their stones. they take control of our banks. we read and learn of their societies. while they destroy our futures. they stay close to their traditions. while condemning ours. all these things are happening from the outside and inside of this nation. citizens look at it from a hundred year span. do you think our liberty, our choices or the freedoms will be there in the next hundred years? this to me is what glenn is attempting to speak. the book of history is full of lost nations, believe that. God bless america and the generations to come.

Screw you, Beck!  You weren’t calling out the “big government progressives” – YOU WERE CALLING OUT THE TEA PARTY!  You called the Tea Partiers RACIST for supporting Gingrich over Obama!  Have you lost your damn mind?  Tea Partiers are NOT big government progressives and not all Tea Partiers support Gingrich!  What the hell?

Furthermore, many of Herman Cain’s supporters decided to support Gingrich because he’s “Not Romney”.  Are those people racist?

I used to hate it when people tell us that we can’t have a “pure” candidate, but I’m beginning to think that they have a point at least.  All the “pure” candidates have either lost too much support (Bachmann), never had a chance to begin with (Santorum) or have been driven out (Cain).  All we’re left with are RINOs with crummy backgrounds (policy-and-voting-wise).

Not only that, your stupid attack on the Tea Party just gave a LOT of ammo to the left!  Good job, you big stupid crybaby!  As if they didn’t have enough to beat us over the head with – now, thanks to you, they have one more bullet for their Racism Gun!

You seriously disgust me right now, and it’s doubly insulting that you’re trying to pass this off as an attack from the so-called “big government progressives” when you know damn well that the small government people – aka the Tea Party – are not happy with your juvenile name calling, especially since that name calling has NO basis in reality whatsoever (whereas my name calling DOES – a real man wouldn’t cry as much as you do).

+1,000.

There is indeed a “progressive wing” of the GOP (see David Frum). Glenn is pointing out the obvious: Newt is a “progressive”; so is Mitt (in his own words). While making an excellent point, Glenn succeeded in getting an important discussion going: Some of us realize that Progressive policies that call for increased government oversight and control are embraced by both sides of the aisle. The point is that we TEA supporters need to wake up and understand that the dangers to the Republic and freedom come from within as well as without.

You mean you want the racists to watch your show?  I THINK NOT!!!!

Thank you for this post.

He went over the top when he implied we are racists.

Gingrich couldn’t force clinton to balance the budget if he didn’t want to, he could veto it. Newt McCain can only claim 2 balanced budgets—the fed. gov. ran 4 consecutive surpluses but for the last 2 of those-fiscal years 2000 and 2001 Newt McCain no longer was serving in the house, he was kicked out by his party.  Newt can take credit for only 2 years and they were not full years.  The National debt was slightly above 4.8 trillion when Newt became speaker in Jan. 1995 when he left in Jan. 1999, the debt was more than 5.6 trillion–increase not a decrease. 

Most of Newts ideas are consistent with big gov.  I agree with Beck, if the party nominates this Newt McCain, then a 3rd party will rise, the republican party is being hacked by biblethumpers and the T. party which is being moviated and funded by the Koch bros., I will never vote for Newt McCain but I will vote for whoever will run on a third party. 

Very good post and I agree.

Instead of praying do some research, the lord helps those that helps themselves, you have been given a mind, use it.

You sound like a christian hypocrite, this is what is wrong with the republican party.

You are completely correct. And I’m glad that Ron is smart enough to see this also. The OWNED reporters are constantly attempting to get Ron to say that he might run on a third party. Of course once he says anything like that, they’ll take it and smear the news all over the world that “ron paul is running third party”. That way they can be assured a win in 2012. Because we all know, there are only two choices this election…RON PAUL, or the status quo…no matter what other candidate you vote for.

You know what’s funny…?? Even you, in your progressive, narrow minded way, are advocating for Ron Paul to be president. By opposing everything he stands for, you make the choice even clearer. RON PAUL 2012 !!

You might have a point Glenn, except for, the establishment GOP are trying to hack up Newt, not support him????  Seems to me, you are stealthily supporting Romney (fellow Mormon), by backing two candidates who don’t have a snowballs chance in Hell!

I’m very disappointed in you, I thought you were above this. I’ve heard you on many occasions say that, you are not the same person you were years ago. Now your saying that Newt hasn’t or couldn’t have changed as well?

you are so right
the democrats are very united but people from the right keep dividing the right. its never going to be perfect because no person is perfect. glenn must uderstand that life isnt just about big perfect ideas.

Nice try, Glenn.. You can either owe-up and apologize to your (former) tea-party fans for calling us racist, or not.   Just because many of us also support  @newtgingrich:twitter and you don’t, it doesn’t even begin to cover your snide remarks couched as a rebuttal.   As voters, we begin voting for our must-have Obama-replacement in just a few weeks.  As subscribers, we begin voting against your tirade now via the “cancel-subscription” button.  Merry Chrismas, and may you enjoy the recent lump of Texas coal just added to your stocking.

I’m a TP who does not support Newt.  My problem GB has insulted the TP many times before when he said that they had no values like his 912 groups even though they had their core beliefs right on their homepage!  Then he insulted the TP woman wearing a costume and the next day she called his show in tears. 

I’ve been mad or aggravated with GB before, but this time is different.  He offers no apologies and instead berates the woman caller now.  He obviously didn’t learn from his throwing Pastor Stephen Brody (sp?) from 8/28 event under the bus.  And he didn’t learn from history of calling Obama a racist.

I’m done!  Wish there was a way to get out of my GBTV subscription that I prepaid for the year!

If I could quadruple like you I would!

Agreed!  I stole this from another message board – Republican’s have us creaping to Socialism while Dem’s have us leaping to socialism.  I’m with Beck that both sides are the same, i honestly can NEVER forgive him for bringing the Tea Party into it!  Nor can I forgive him for the way that he treated the woman and fan caller right after this!

It’s not suprising Snow!  However, GB has cut down the TP before, and I cannot support his comments anymore!

And he needed to cut down the TP to make his point!  Give me a break!

Agreed!  But why bring the TP into it?  Let him pick on his own 912 group events with Newt!

I supported Bachmann until she lied about Pawlenty’s record and went after Perry on the gardisal thing that never was and had an opt-out.  I wish that she hadn’t gone negative, she had a very good message!

Totally agree!  Why would Beck continue to throw the TP under the bus.  That’s me BTW and I was not a Newt supporter.

Of course we are… like that famous FF Thomas Jefferson who started the Navy and war against muslim pirates.  I just can’t find any RP supporters that agree!

As a former anti-war Dem, I always appreciate the name calling by RP supporters!  Makes me want to vote for him for sure!

Yeah, I tried to cancel my GBTV subscription, but the box only listed Technical or Billing errors, not totally Offended!

Give me a break on the non-interventionist Founders!  Thomas Jefferson started the Navy and a war with the muslim pirates.  Yet I have never in 2 years found a RP supporter who responds. 

Really like Michelle!  But I agree with Levin, Perry, Bachmann or Santorum are the real conservatives!

And yes!  He isn’t a career politican like Newt… oh wait 30 years in Congress – check!

I don’t read things from Coulter who support RINOs like Christie and Romney!

I am very proud that GB is pointing out the left and right!  I do not support him taking out the Tea Party as racist!  He should be ashamed, and he has set back the TP movement forever.  If he ever says that he is wrong, nobody will bother publishing that!

It’s refreshing to see a RP suppporter who will vote for whoever is in the Republican Party!

So you must be the same supporters calling into CSPAN every morning urging Dem’s to register Republican to select RP in the primary?!  It’s you supporters who will never get him elected.  We have morals and ethics here so we don’t act like liberal liars!

Glenn needs to restate and clarify his position . I never thought that Newt had a shot, that goes for Cain too. Once Perry put his foot in his mouth I didn’t have an “ideal” candidate. So here is Newt, who has been “the smartest guy” at the debate, and I like the way that he attacks Obama and not his peers. So am I a racist now? I went to the first 9/12 March, 8/28, and the second 9/12 March. Glenn says I’m being co-opted by the Progressive GOP. REALLY?
What I am IS sick of   being told by everyone that ROMNEY is inevitable, that I  gotta hold my nose and vote for Romney, WELL NO I DON”T. I did it last time for John McCain and I’m tired of being manipulated. Sorry guys but RON PAUL is just a cult figure, both my sons are ARMY and I’m not supporting anyone that thinks AMERICA deserved 9/11. How can Glenn say that
RON PAUL is better than a “progressive” NEWT. AT least Newt believes that America has to be able to protect itself from a very dangerous world.
Seriously this is where I depart. Newt IS NOT LIKE OBAMA. Newt’s biggest problem is that he has to answer for his record.
But don’t call me a RACIST for considering him!

Your morals and ethics are a sham.  It got you Bush who then was responsible along with his party for bringing on Obama.  Don’t cover up for your party.  They are fine with Obama, he’s a bit annoying to them, but in the end it is all love between the democrats and republicans.

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BS61 wrote, in response to jen:
So you must be the same supporters calling into CSPAN every morning urging Dem’s to register Republican to select RP in the primary?!  It’s you supporters who will never get him elected.  We have morals and ethics here so we don’t act like liberal liars! Link to comment

It is inappropriate for you, just like Obama, to go around the world and literally force your so-called morality onto others.  Especially when you don’t live that morality and go around the world to take away the morality from other people who actually have it.
Perhaps you will realize you share so much with Obama.  And then you will be pleasantly surprized when they all turn on you and say oops, you ran out of money and I will save you from collapse:) As usual, you will take the bait.

I’m done with you Glenn, you can not seriously support Ron Paul…  so this means by default that you support Romney..

I’m a former Dem who voted for Clinton so give me a break! If Obama was a normal Dem, I would be supporting him, but he is definitely way left and Anti-Capitalist.

Actually Jen, I was a Dem, now an Independent, so I never voted for Bush. I see that both parties are the same as anyone would, but we as Americans must have morals and ethics.