Santorum to Beck: Gingrich is ‘as progressive as Ron Paul is Libertarian’

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Glenn talked with one of the few actual conservatives left in the race, Rick Santorum, and begged him to ‘just win’ the primary. The former Senator has a long way to go, but anything can happen. Santorum was excited about all the candidates dropping out of the Trump debate because he said he doesn’t speak in ’4 second bites’ and is eager to have a shot at more time to be heard. Santorum also had some choice words for ‘progressive’ Gingrich and Romney – get it all in the clip above!

  • Anonymous

    Glenn, Having listened to and appreciated your insights over the last 3 years, I do not understand how you can endorse Santorum… He is, by all accounts and his own admission, a neo-conservative (aka progressive.) I can understand your support for Bachmann, but simply cannot reconcile your opposition to progressivism with your support for Santorum. Isn’t it the height of right-wing progressive ideology to want to ‘spread democracy’? I believe you’ve previously equated spreading democracy with spreading wealth… what gives?

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Right now events are approaching their conclusion to where now we face the hard choices; which will we as a nation do — into the light or into the night of eternity.

    Bachman is my choice for candidate.

  • Anonymous

    Bachmann or Paul. Nothing else will do.

    I would vote for Santorum vs. Obama, but Santorum doesn’t represent a significant change from the status quo. There are few issues on which he’s willing to eliminate government power… Again, this election must elect someone willing to eliminate commissions and programs, not just reduce their funding. We’re bleeding to death and Santorum represents a Band-Aid when we need the wounds cleaned, sutured, and bandaged with a lot of gauze.

    Bachmann or Paul.

  • Anonymous

    I will never vote for Paul to me he is a career politician who is a pipi piper. I love your radio show and GBTV show but Paul is pulling a Trojan Horse if you want to let it in the city you will die from foolishness. Mrs Bachman I can support but this Paul is a progressive. First question you ask yourself how can anyone stay in Washington that long and not play the inside game. Tell Glen tell me how do you do it? You dance when they say dance i.e Progressive both party.

  • Anonymous

    Rick Santorum is my pick.  I like his push for family values, which we’ve lost in this country and must gain back in an effort to straighten this country out.  Also, our ethics have suffered leading to more corruption, empty promises, lies, greed, and a fall away from God.  Rick  has the courage to stand up for these values.
    What I also want to hear from Rick is how he would chg Washington and the economic problems.  Other people aren’t going to buy into values, ethics, family.  He needs to make a bold move on some of the issues and what directions he would take.  He needs to bring something new to the table that he hasn’t been said before to wow the people.
    What he said on your show needs to be said to the public in debate.
    Rick needs to do his homework on debating with Obama and his fellow Republican’s.
    .

  • Anonymous

    We need to hear much more from and about Rick Santorum. He may be the best bet for our country at this time!

  • Anonymous

    I like Rick but his strong endorsement of Gingrich and how he touted Gingrich’s political tapes at the last debate makes me wonder if he is as conservative as Bachman and Paul.

    Personally I like Romney because he has been in government for only 4 years as a governor and the remainder has been spent in the private sector developing companies. I feel the private sector is hurting and that the economy and jobs are the top issues and I truly want someone who has the pulse and the interests of the private sector in office.

    Bachman is my second choice and I would have to say it may be Paul as my 3rd choice.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dbechhofer Dov Bechhofer

    We need Ron Paul. While many of his supporters are nuts and dangerous, our country’s economic situation is our biggest danger. Far more dangerous than leaving Iraq, Afghanistan, whatever.

  • Anonymous

    I know it not popular but I will vote for Romney. Some have there doubts but I know he is not the progressive as the word is defined by Glenn today. He will not lead to socialism or Communism. I believe that he will uphold the Constitution. I do believe that we need to be able to at least try to fix the problems we have today and having the pendulum swing hard the other direction, well the Dems wont allow that to happen. A house Divided Cannot Stand.

  • Anonymous

    Try asking this one important question…who would be most likely able to untangle the web of destruction that Obama and the Socialists/Democrats have created?  Who could best spearhead the effort like balancing the budget(done that).  The answer is Gingrich because we need more power than than any other candidate can muster.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3QYFJP25DEOPI3GVVRR3CYRBSU BarbaraS

    Wow..I really like Newt until I have recently heard of all this news…Now I am looking at him differently. I do like Rick Santorum and always have but he never seemed to get any momentum going. I hope he starts to increase in the poll numbers. I think the nation would benefit from Rick S. as a President.

  • Anonymous

    What – correct me if I’m wrong, but Germany is the strongest nation in Europe, give them free reign – that is, bring the remainder of US troops home from the troubled continent and watch the fatherland return to  the good-ol days of the Reich – Pledge? – It was the Brits and America who pledged – “never again can the world allow either nation (Japan/Germany) to regain the capacity of waging war on such a scale” – our troops are there to prevent that from happening – no sugar coating the facts, if we let down our guard – especially now, as world upheaval increases – the weapons of modern warfare will be unleashed. America is selling out her moral duties and giving her strength away – Have we not learned from history?  

    If we close our foreign bases as Glenn suggests, we will have sold the world out and once again  – as in our past, become isolationists and with modern continental ballistic missiles fitted with multiple nuclear warheads, we may as well kiss our asses good-by.

    Peace through strength – it works!

    Santorum is right – we need to keep a forward presence, that long held US presence, has preserved the relative peace of the world from ’45 on – remove the American threat and see how quickly things unravel – if we think the world is chaotic now, just watch what transpires soon after US troops are gone.

  • Anonymous

    The upcoming election is foremost about personally defeating Obama, who has the entire liberal media behind him. Only Gingrich is capable of successfully debating Obama on TV, and to reveal his ‘true face’ and to put him where he belongs: Out of Office!    

  • Anonymous

    IOWA: GINGRICH 22% PAUL 21% ROMNEY 16%

    “In Iowa, Paul closes to within one point of front-runner Gingrich,”  this according to a story just posted on the Drudge Report.

  • OscarK44

    I would suggest every one go to TownHall.com and read the Chuck Norris column, it is very good and makes a lot of sense. Luck to you all.

  • OscarK44

    I would suggest every one go to TownHall.com and read the Chuck Norris column, it is very good and makes a lot of sense. Luck to you all.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000364792093 Marlene Klein

    I like Santorum’s quiet dignity. He could reverse the damage done by the Obama administration, especially with the proper conservative backing. A 54 year old lawyer, he was the third highest ranking Senate Republican for 6 years. He is both socially and fiscally conservative. Call me old fashioned, but I want for this country a President who is confident, decisive, principled and strong, He has strong Christian views, which he has received harsh criticism for in the past. I’d like to hear more……

  • http://www.praxacademy.com Rothbardian

    Or, “Gingrich is as progressive as Ron Paul is constitutionalist”.  Paul should know better: bombing other countries generously is a requirement for being considered a ‘conservative’.

  • 4joachim

    GO SANTORUM!!!

  • Anonymous

    If you think Rick Santorum is the conservative pick he needs to do a Herman Cain and get himself on every talk show out there. Both liberal and conservative. He is not a frontrunner because to be honest we don’t know enough about him. He has been on the sidelines in every debate and when he speaks, especially during the first debates, he was very anxious and over-excitable acting…he has since improved but definitely needs lessons on speaking with an authority that makes people impressed with what he is saying. This is what Newt has…Sarah Palin…too many people hated the sound of her voice…I know this is silly but people want to watch someone for the next four years that has an authority in his voice along with knowledge. Rick needs to do some real work and get out there so everyone can get to know him.

  • Debbie C

    Yes my picks are Bachmann or Santorum. They are truly our only hope. Let’s get the work folks! We got to make it happen!!!

  • Anonymous

    Sorry, but you are incorrect in your assumption.  He is the only candidate that has been out there….visiting EVERY single county in IOWA and he communicates effectively and efficiently.  The debates are geared only to the “front runners” and those “front runners” are based on polls of likely voters which are usually from a pool of only 1000 voters.  How absurd is that houseart.  Rick, is the only true conservative in the field, and is a strong supporter of marriage.  He is both a social and fiscally sound conservative, which this country needs after the destruction Mr. Obama has caused to the family and the economy after just three horrible years in the White House.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Nichols/535166920 John Nichols

    Pick the one that the LORD chooses!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZV6GE33S4J4TWPZD3AFYZLE2IA John

    Glenn, how can you practically endorse Bush’s right-hand man in the Senate?

    Neo-con.

    Neo-con.

    Neo-con.

    This is why I find myself listening less and less…

  • Anonymous

    I like Romney alot . I feel that most people overlook or minimize his deep background as an executive which is much different than that of a legislator. . He has a history of unbroken success running businesses , the Olympics and the State of Massachusets. He is also a workaholic. He has a history of treating his employees very well  and of being very generous and charitable. Everyone knows what a great husband and father he is. The flip flop issue ,I believe ,is ill founded. He has changed over time  and I feel sure he is now a true conservative.(Ronald Reagan did the same thing) If he was the kind of guy who  changed possitions just for political advantage he would have said he made a mistake and distanced himself from Romneycare. But he adamantly refuses to do so insisting it was the right thing for Massachusets even though  experts advise him that  is hurting his cause.That doesn’t sound like a wishy washy, spineless man to me.Although he is the son of a Governor  he made it as a successful businessman on his own. I don’t think a man like I have just described will lie to us and switch possitions after he is elected.Am I the only person that thinks Romney is head and shoulders above the rest? I don’t understand why he is given so little slack while a guy like Newt, who has a very checkered history is given so much.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Groesbeck/100000319492111 Michael Groesbeck

    After listening to who the candidates compare themselves to and also their political philosophy and ideological background…….

    Mitt Romney = John Adams (Counter-Imperial Moderate Federalist)
    Ron Paul = Thomas Jefferson (Counter-Imperial Democrat-Republican…near anachist)
    Rick Santorum = Abraham Lincoln (Imperial Republican)
    Newt Gingrich = Alexander Hamilton/Teddy Roosevelt (Imperial Federalist)

    Note: Imperialism and Progressivism are similar but are different. One is the spread of an ideology via open force…the other is the spread of an ideology via backstabbing (Secret Combinations).

    Counter-Imperialism if carried too far, can be mistaken for Imperialism. This is what Ron Paul warns against.

    Distinguishing between C-I and I is actually very simple if you know what to look for.

    1. Look at governing styles…of presidents, governors, judges, & speakers (not legislators)
    2. Look at & compare rhetoric & actions
    3. (most important) Is there any restraint, hesitation,…mercy.

    I find that Gingrich is a progressive. I also find that Rick Santorum…after giving praise to Newt in last debate is something I consider very suspect. 

    I’ve looked past the false accusations thrown upon both Paul & Romney. Paul isn’t an isolationist/anarchist and Romney isn’t a liar/neo-con.

    I have looked at the words of these two EXTENSIVELY. I am appalled at the slanders thrown at both these magnificent candidates.

    Paul/Romney or Romney/Paul 2012

    GOP Libertarians, Conservatives, & Moderates need to unite. Social Conservatives are bigots and should be ignored. I refuse to be dragged into supporting the not-mormon candidate and being told to ignore his progressive tendencies. THAT HYPOCRISY IS ASTOUNDINGLY OFFENSIVE.

    I’m gonna vote my political ideology, not against a religion.

    ps: I AM DEIST

  • Anonymous

    Peschken,  I agree.  Our PRIMARY goal in the ’12 election should be the defeat of B.O.

    Regardless of who the GOP candidate is.  However, that candidate had better be elect-

    able, or else it really doesn’t matter.  It will go to the current resident in the WH.

  • Anonymous

    Santorum is NOT a true conservative. He is however, a big time NEO-con war hawk. His support of ME wars makes him a default supporter of the $ wasting, profit over human life soldier killing military industrial complex.

    http://tinyurl.com/c6bsmuj

    Santorum has no clue about how bad & dangerous the US foreign policy of interventionism is & has been.

    http://www.rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/Santorum_Rick

    This quote take from 1st paragraph in above link: “Like many of his fellow GOP candidates, Santorum is a right-wing
    conservative on domestic policy and a foreign policy hawk who argues
    that the United States faces existential threats from abroad.”

    Rick does NOT seem to understand or care that these threats & 9-11 are a result of reaping what the US has sown in the ME . He would continue to PO the Muslims, no matter the cost to US in blood & treasure.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjqGBBFiowE

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/02/opinion/02iht-edgreenway02.html

    http://tinyurl.com/c3ufluy

    The ME wars & ‘terrorism’ are diversions away form the truest threat to the USA: Our own government. Not to take terrorists lightly, but they will have a tough time actually as much damage to We The People as DC.

    What do you think the ‘Fed’ is for? On the $ level.

    What do you think the ‘Patriot’ Act is for, on a We The People level?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1P53wMbnsw

    How about the legislation Manchurian McCain & Carl Levin put into a military provisions bill that would…here, you read it-

    http://tinyurl.com/7bjlp6n

    These are only a few examples.

    It really is time to wake up!!! USA!! You can’t trust what the peeps say in the ‘debates’. You MUST do deeper research.

    Ron Paul is as far as I can tell now, the last best hope for the USA barring divine intervention.

    I am not sure we can take another 4 years after ’12 if 0 gets back in or we get another R Bush type as we would in Mitt, Perry, Newt, Huntsman, Rick or Michael. Do you really think that any of these would ACTUALLY phase out the inflation machine AKA the ‘Fed’ the way Ron Paul would? Or bring the troops home? Or do his best to restore the Constitution as the law of the land?

    You MUST know the answer to these! Our nation will not long endure if we do not get the Constitution back!

    SamFox

  • Anonymous

    Marlene, by continuing the ME wars & possibly starting new ones, how is Rick diff than 0?

    Rick is a Catholic, not a Christian.

    No offense is meant, but the Catholic church has many non Bible based doctrines, teaching & beliefs. Praying to Mary is one big Bible no no. “There is ONE mediator between God & man, the Man Christ Jesus.” Emphasis added. And there is no command in the Book that those who minister in the church can’t or should not be married. Plus the church is not authorized to decide who saints are. Every born again Christian is a saint. Just read the Bible…again, no offense, just being truthful according to what the Bible says & not some group of men dressed in clothes that the Bible does not teach to dress in have made up on their own.

    There is a lot more, but I am not trying to start a fight.

    Here is a take on ‘conservative’ Santorum.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iev7TKsXoHo

    This is what Rick does not understand about why we were hit on 9-11.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjqGBBFiowE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSt4L43RbeA

    Here is the only true, 100% conservative running.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNhR_I_fT6w

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSt4L43RbeA&feature=related

    SamFox

  • Anonymous

    If Bachmann is so conservative, why did she vote to extend this?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1P53wMbnsw

    If she is so conservative why did she & hubby take govt $ while Michele was talking against the practice?

    http://tinyurl.com/3gj3tgnSamFox

  • Anonymous

    So you think that government has a role to enforce family values with men in uniforms with guns to force you but then you expect that they will not enforce rules on your wallet and your checking account? You cannot undermine a premise and then react in wonderment when people whom you disagree with use your tools to do the same to you for their own agenda.

    Ron Paul 2012

  • Anonymous

    Your opinions about the Catholic religion are deplorable.
    From time to time I forget how arrogant, shallow and narrow minded WASPs are, then I read your post.
    You make references to specific quotes or passages of the Bible, and those that don’t appear, but you don’t talk about all of the flaws or outdated messages.
    So please…
    Tell me more about evils of the Catholic church!!!  Tell me how Catholics are unfit to be President or hold a public office!!!!
    You have shown, through your arrogance and self righteousness, that you are a bigoted and evil little fu**!!!!

  • SoThere

    Folks, strtlk is a Phony who claims to have served in the Military but he lies and has no credibility. He’s a hatemonger that goes by many names here.

    He’s a lying sack of crap. strtlk denied serving on a submarine, and knowing what SSBN was. I posted your words verbatim.

    You’re a Wikipedia sailor and a lying puke.

    Here’s your “one on one” you little puke of a man.

    1. As mtclayboy you claimed that you served on a BOOMER. As strtlk you claimed not to know what a Boomer or a SSBN was “I don’t care” were your exact words. You also stated that you didn’t know where Bangor, Wa. was which is where Boomers (submarines) are fitted for duty.
    Any real Submariner would know that. You didn’t!

    2. You then changed your story and claimed that you were on a BOOMER. You lied.

    3. As mtclayboy you claimed that you had damaged your ears while serving on a Submarine. As strtlk, you claimed that you damaged your ears while serving on a submarine.

    4. As mtclayboy you claimed that you joined the Navy and served for five years on a submarine but according to the timeline you gave that was proven to be a lie. You lied.

    5. As mtclayboy you said that you were a Fireman. As strtlk, you claimed you were a Fireman.

    6. As mtclayboy and as strtlk, you posted the same bigotry and hate against Glenn Beck almost word for word even using the same spelling and grammatical errors and focusing on the children. I’ve posted many of them here already.

    Are you catching on everyone? He’s a liar plain and simple and nothing he claims can be believed.

    Folks, I have the posts of these two Phonies and have posted just a couple to prove he is a liar and just makes up stories about his Military Service. His latest story is right out of Wikipedia. His classified VMS crap is also right out of Wikipedia and US NAVY.mil. I’m a member there.

    He wants to take me on “one on one” when he’s already proven in his own words that he’s a liar and a fake.

    Flag the idiot so he can come back as another loser like his other fake ID “Vinny” where hes a 10 year Army Sargent on another classified secret mission that he can’t talk about.

    There you go loser, “one on one” only I backed up my posts with facts and your own words as proof. Why don’t you have the balls to admit to your lies, tuck your head up your A$$, take your bigotry and hate and Phony Soldier ID and leave us honest people alone?

    Once again, Here you are caught in your lies. These are your words verbatim:

    strtlk said: on Hollywood elites want to be taxed more 09/24/11 07:51 PM

    “1. No idea where Bangor, WA is. I thought Bangor was in Maine!
    2. What the heck is a “Boomer” or SSBN? You know what…I don’t care!
    3. Reminding people that glenn was a dead beat dad is a factual statement about him, not his innocent children. Nice try though slime ball.
    3. Either talk about something relevant and stop this, you are jason bourne crap!”

    Caught in your lies strtlk.

    Thanks for proving me correct.

    Folks, strtlk/mtclayboy has been caught in his lies, He’s a lying sack of crap.

    “TMP”

  • Anonymous

    People are POLL watchers and that is the reason nobody supports Santorum or Bachmann…Everybody wants to vote for a star… Ron Paul is not as bad as people think either..All I know is that we don’t need Newt Romney!

  • Anonymous

    Ron Paul is an apologist made in the same likeness as Obama – what is shaping up around the world today is a frantic scramble by most western nations, to save themselves from being swallowed up by the looming debt monster. The reality of what we see before us, are the beginnings of the  first stages of a new world war. If America closes up foreign bases and travels down the Obama or Paul “isolationist rout” other more aggressive nations will beat us to the punch, saving their own economic skins and like the Titanic – witness the USA slip into her resting place away from world view.

    We need Santorum to stop the deadly childish political games that Paul and Obama and many others are currently playing. You paint Santorum as a war monger – when in fact – by your weak apologetic argument would have our nation roll over and play dead.

  • Ray Lenox

    NICE, Bash Catholics…
    Of course Catholics are Christian. PLEASE!!!

  • Anonymous

    A persons religion should not matter – character should though, and knowing how Paul’s policies would also apologize away Americas strength, hiding its political head in the sand away from common sense and reality – Santorum is the best candidate to save the nation.

  • Anonymous

    Santorum/Gingrich -or- Gingrich/Santorum – Americas last hope.

  • Philip Onochie

    SamFox, No offense to you either, but you are showing a lack of understanding in universal Christian teaching and understanding. What minimally but principally denotes a Christian is the doctrine of the Holy Trinity. That is, a belief in God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Catholics believe in that doctrine..and as a matter of fact, they are the ones who coined it. 

    Secondly, when you say Catholics are not Christians, it is as dumb as saying Lutherans are not Christian, or Baptists are not Christian. News FLASH: the world of Christians is divided into two: Catholic and Protestant. So, if you disagree with Santorum because he is not Protestant, then say so.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_55XHVI3R5SXJ7P2C4YMEEMEGR4 Peter K

    Sam, you are correct in everything you say about the bible’s teachiings.  However, I don’t know any Protestant religion that truly follows the bible either.  A true Christian is an individual who has made Jesus the Lord of their life, they obey all His commands and they love the lost. 

    I don’t know the depth of any politicians faith to know whether they are a true faithful follower of Christ or a lipservice professional.  

    But I do know that Ron Paul has the longest voting record with the most consistent views and is a strict constitutionalist.  I think he is the exact person needed for the Presidency at this time.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tyrone-Costa/100000386203392 Tyrone Costa

    Your right about the bashing, it is not well thought out.
     
    Some Catholics are and some aren’t just like Protestants! It is not what you do that makes you a Christian…It is believing on Christ alone and what he has done for us that does. And even that faith to believe is given by the grace of God. No church can save us.

    Solus Christus, Sola fide, Sola gratia!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Bonk/100001609338804 Eric Bonk

    Sorry,Santorum is a religious zealot of a lesser order that Bachmann. Still Not Acceptable. Ron Paul is the least of all evils and Congress,Our ExistingTreaties can curtail his rotten Foreign Policy.

  • Ryan Kaufman

    Get over it, Catholics are Christian. As a Christian we know only Jesus can judge a man. Rick is a good man with a solid record, to bad he can’t win.

  • Anonymous

    Ray, I didn’t bash. You are making an erroneous ASSumption of your self. Nice try at spinning what I said. You work for B O’Reilly? :-)

     I note that none of the peeps who disagree with what I said put up anything to refute me.

    What I posted is Bible. Much of what Catholic leaders teach is NOT!

    I’ll do a bit more proving of what I said. So get back & look around.

    I been at this since ’69. How long you been studying the Book?

    SamFox

  • Anonymous

    Tyrone C, you are right. But those who are actually Christian in the C church are a minority. Those in the P denominations make up a higher % of those who believe in Jesus alone, but there are, as you say, many who are not true Christians who are born again by the Holy Spirit.

    Your are wrong about me bashing. I was only stating
    bible truth, I was not trying to put C’s down.

    You are quite right that no church can save a person.

    I gave ya a like on your comment.

    SamFox

  • Anonymous

    Good post Peter. I gave ya a like.

    Ron Paul, probably to many people’s surprise, is a Christian. He just doesn’t wave his faith around to attract votes.

    SamFox

  • Anonymous

    I don’t care if Rick is an atheist, a Buddhist or what ever. If Rick was a Constitutionalist I would be in his camp. 

    Santorum, as I have said many times in many threads, a big govt war hawk who has no clue on blowback from the ME. He has no clue that our meddling in the ME, setting up dictators then taking them out, bombing since the ’50′s & so on has resulted in reaping what we have sown in the ME. 

    Why did you not check the links I left? I just didn’t come on here & make what I said up. Show me where what the links say is wrong. Especially the YouTube video by the Southern Avenger, Jack Hunter. Try refuting what the SA says…I dare ya. :-) C’mon! Give er a twist! :-)

    Back to the Catholic church.

    You are wrong about belief in the Trinity is what saves a soul. The minimal of what denotes salvation is not minimal, it’s mandatory to be a Christian. One must repent of their sin & believe Jesus Christ has died for their own personal sin. John 3, Jesus says ‘You MUST be born again.” This is done by faith alone, in Christ alone. Works don’t save, they should follow.

    You are incorrect that I am misunderstanding. I have been studying the Bible since ’69. I hardly know everything, but what I do know is straight from the Bible.

    Let me ask ya Philip, does the Bible teach that Mary is an intercessor between God & us?

    Does it teach she is a perpetual virgin?

    Where does the Bible say it’s OK to pray to saints or Mary. Show me!!

    Does the Book say the bread & wine actually turn into the physical body & blood of Christ or are they symbolic reminders of Christ’s sacrifice?

    Where does it say that church leaders MUST be celibate as opposed to making that choice as a minister on an individual basis?

    Does the Bible teach that church leaders get to choose who saints are?

    Where does the Book teach that infant baptism saves the soul of the child?

    Here, get some depth. I give ya a link or 3 to save space.

    http://carm.org/are-roman-catholics-christian

     http://www.christian-faith.com/forjesus/roman-catholicism-is-it-true-christian-faith

    http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/cath.htm

    If you need more let me know.

    SamFox

  • Anonymous

    strtlk, I posted no opinion. I put up facts! Look down a few posts to find some links.

    Your 2nd sentence reflects on you, not on me.

    I never said C’s should not hold office. I don’t go by a candidate’s religion or even if they follow one. We are electing a Prez, not a pope or preacher.I once supported a Mormon for the Gov of my state.

    As for the evils of the Catholic ‘church’, find my post below & one of links gives ya a lowdown on just how evil the C church has been. Spanish inquisition ring any bells? I am not talking every singe individual Catholic. Some of them are corrupt, just as in the P side. Many C’s are devoted & sincere. That won’t save them apart from Christ however, but they are not responsible for the junk piled onto the Bible over the years by the C hierarchy, as in C doctrine, teaching by higher up leaders.

    Your last sentence reveals your ‘innards’. I was hardly being arrogant. The ONLY righteousness I have comes straight from Jesus, not from me.

    I tell ya the truth & you go all Saul Alinsky Rules For Radicals on me. You seem to be of a  vile mind. Go on with ya.

    SamFox

  • Anonymous

    OK. Ryan didn’t read the links I posted on CINO Santorum. Here, check it out. Just for you I re-post:

    Here is a take on ‘conservative’ Santorum.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v

    This is what Rick does not understand about why we were hit on 9-11.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v

    Here is the only true, 100% conservative running.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v

    As for Cs being Christian: Just because they misappropriate the term doesn’t make them real. Some Catholics are Christian, but that would be in spite of C doctrine, not because of it.

    See my reply to Philip, a bit below. Check out the links. They have citations in them.

    SamFox

  • Anonymous

    ZEROGON, can’t let ya slide. You are misrepresenting Ron Paul.

    Show us where Ron is an isolationist, as you imply by the head in the sand jive. Show us how Ron’s call for the restoration of the Constitution = apologizing for anything.

    You don’t even know what Dr. Paul’s foreign policy is. Or where he takes it from. [Sources please!] Yet you presume to post as if you knew what you are talking about.

    How does wanting more ME war make Santorum a good candidate? Rick doesn’t even seem to know how broke the US is! Even IF RS were correct, [he’s not[ where we gonna get the $$$???

    I am not down on RS because he is a C. I don’t care!!! about that! It’s his call for the continuation of the dangerous to We The Peeps foreign policy of interventionism, like we are such a good & moral nation we can go around bossing every other country around.

    You need to stop listening to what he says & do more research.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v

    SamFox

  • Anonymous

    snowl, MB can’t be trusted. She voted to extend the heinous ‘Patriot’ Act. She also took govt $ while saying that it’s a bad thing to do.

    I used to like MB till I did what to few do these days: more research.

    This is what MB voted to extend:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1P53wMbnsw

    There is NO WAY a real conservative could even think of voting for more police state…

    SamFox

  • Anonymous

    Why don’t you do research?

    Here is REAL Mitt:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3etUOq7hVE

    http://tinyurl.com/76lq5ye

    Newt is just as bad. Both of these clowns should do US a favor & drop out.

    SamFox

  • Sunshine Kid

    I hate to say it, but unless the USA can elect a politician who will do everything in his/her power to shrink the government, there will be more government workers and welfare collectors than working people.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000364792093 Marlene Klein

    I will refrain from voting this election cycle if Ron Paul is the candidate, and y’all can pretty much count on another 4 years of the Obama administration. Even if Ron Paul runs on a 3rd party ticket, there’s a good chance Barack Obama will remain president……

  • Anonymous

    Hey Einstein, if your beloved liberal democrat Paul, becomes potus then,
    after everything our military troops have fought, bled and died for
    over the past 200 years, has been set aside like some embarrassing
    filthy rag – in the name of peace mind-you, you’ll wish those bases were
    back in place after you lose everything you ever had.

    Paul’s weak-mindedness and lack of understanding of the real world – is more dangerous to this nation, then are a team of well trained terrorists hell-bent on our destruction.

    It is real men, who had belief in a strong and powerful military who
    have led to this nation to be the worlds riches and most productive
    nation in the history of mankind – it has always been one step forward
    and five steps back – whenever a democratic liberal progressive – such
    as Obama or Paul slither into power with there bag of liberal tricks up
    their sleeves, who bring this nation down.

    What is even more frightening, is the attention weak minded individuals,
    like yourself, give these fools – which allows them free reign to
    destroy our nation from within.

  • ward7098

    And Santorum is as much a neo-con warmonger as Dick Cheney.  Santorum would be sure bet for more war.

  • Anonymous

    Going to take your ball and go home cause they won’t let you pitch?

  • Anonymous

    Something is drastically wrong, and I can’t figure it out. There are way too many conservative pundits coming out against Newt Gingrich. I think I’m begining to smell a rat, and it isn’t Newt. Why is everyone piling on to sink him when Romney is just as proressive, if not more so? The only posibility is that someone is waiting in the wings that already has all of these pundits blessings. Some of the attacks just don’t make sense. Why destroy someone who might end up being your candidate?

  • Anonymous

    I am no defender of the institution of the Catholic Church. Nor am I a supporter of Rick Santorum. However, pointing out that Santorum “is a Catholic not a Christian” and your subsequent posts suggest that you are proclaming that Catholicism is a lower form of Christianity than a strict Bible based religion. Disagree and criticize one’s political positions all you want, but please refrain from implicit or explicit criticism of another’s religion. Many Catholics, Episcopalians and members of the various other religions are outstanding Christians. Many Christians in name forget how to live or strive to live as Christ taught. We average humans run into trouble when we start suggesting my interpretation of Christianity is better than yours.

  • Ryan Waller

    The presidents have been trying to step over the check’s and balance that this government has..Ron Paul wants to enforce those checks and balances why is that EVER a bad thing? If he gets rid of a part of the government say education department and we start to develop series problems and realize we need it then we can ALWAYS go back and recreate it. However if we have it and don’t get rid of it and crumble under the weight of the economy and budget than its to late. The fact is the big government idea has been tried out for many years in the US, Roman Empire, Ottoman empire, and many others and has FAILED. Why do we continue to reject these examples? 

  • ward7098

    “…everything our military troops have fought, bled and died for over the past 200 years, has been set aside like some embarrassing filthy rag.”

    That’s because the United States has not fought a truly just and defensive war since the War of 1812.  Everything else has been expansionist and imperial in nature, even WWII.  Once we put the Injuns on reservations and kicked the Spics’ asses, we started looking for someone else to pick on.  What have we become?  Exactly what we said we were fighting against – tyranny.  The following quote has come to pass:
     
    “Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her [the United States’] heart, her benedictions, and her prayers be. But she does not go abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own. … She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom. The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force. … She might become the dictatress of the world. She would no longer be the ruler of her own spirit.”  – Secretary of State John Quincy Adams, 1821

  • ward7098

    So are Mormons!

  • ward7098

    “never again can the world allow either nation (Japan/Germany) to regain the capacity of waging war on such a scale”
    And what do you call the United States?  Bullying the entire world and trying to re-create the world in the image of the United States.  Like I said before, we have become the monster that we supposedly set out to destroy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000364792093 Marlene Klein

    No, maybe I’d be more comfortable with O at the helm.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000364792093 Marlene Klein

    with the hope Hilary stays put….

  • Anonymous

    The only thing that “O” will be at the helm of is a sinking ship!

  • Anonymous

    Ron Paul has had to address his old newsletters over the last few days. Guess how he’s been responding? He “didn’t know that stuff was in them”. So a guy who wants to be the leader of the free world has many, many newsletters published in his name and widely distributed over many years without proof reading them read first?  Paul also claimed he knew nothing about the ads his “base” put out to find any dirt on Rick Perry. Who is Ron Paul going to appoint to help him run his administration, these people?  And will he run his administration like Eric Holder runs the Dept. of Justice, using excuses like “I dunno”, “I wasn’t aware”, “I just became aware” or the now infamous ”it all has to do with your state of mind”?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000364792093 Marlene Klein

    Does the Republican party have any new, fresh faces. Is there anyone out there not on the edge of senility? I thought McCain would have been good, and he was from the old school. But man! And, I’m a Republican because I believe we have to remain engaged in world affairs. Iran on the verge nuclear weapons, England and Germany on verge of bankruptcy, pulling out of Iraq with Iran salivating at our departure, and you want to appoint an isolationist as President?

  • Anonymous

    right on Marine.  Semper Fi

  • Anonymous

    Paul supporters are like that.  They think we should help their guy out but if they don’t get their way they’ll stab everyone else in the back in a NY minute, even if it means giving Obama another four years. 

  • Anonymous

    And you, strtlk, have shown yourself to be ignorant and hateful. Your emotional rant, name calling and vulgarity show you are not really interested in discussion or apparently even your faith.  Do you really think such a filthy tirade would be pleasing to God? We do still have free speech in America you know

  • Anonymous

    The only one who has more trouble string enough words together to make a coherant sentence is Perry. Speacking of Perry, everytime he makes an attack at Romney, he looks at the audience with a shit eating grin, that appears to be asking if he got in a “good one”. I shudder at the thought of having to vote for either one of them, but I will.

    Semper Fi!

  • Anonymous

    Ron Paul and Gary Johnson are the only sane candidates in this race who can pull this country back from the brink.  Santorum is a strong candidate and he stands as a true Conservative.  I have to agree with him and say, yes, Newt Gingrich is as Progressive as Ron Paul is Libertarian.  Looking at the numbers, My vote is going to Ron Paul.  Why, because he stands the best chance of defeating Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney (the two leading Progressives in the race).  We don’t need another Progressive…     

  • Anonymous

    You’ve got it backward 7098, ever sense the progressives have wielded power, our foreign policy is one of weakness – of being told where – who – and when to lay down the gauntlet of American might, to add to the sad abysmal state of affairs, our military geniuses even allow little Iran and Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez to push us around for years. President Clinton was told by the Germans to wage war against an old US WWII Allie – the Serbians – and like the good boy he wanted the world to think he was, he pre-empted the first attack of what will become known as the prelude to WWIII

    That my friend, is abuse of power and I’m not articulating any of the “business as usual” tactics – I’m addressing the fact, that we must use our power to protect our national interests – not another nations – unless our congress ratifies it first.

  • Anonymous

    You may believe your lie’s – but don’t try and pawn them off on me as reasonable or factual, sounds to me that you have a personal agenda and your dismal attempt at facing the hard cold facts of history show it. We’re in the big-leagues, learn how to deal with it.

  • Anonymous

    Rush is right, Ron Paul was wearing his tin foil hat
    again last night.  Paul is WAY left of the whackist Lefty on foreign policy. Ron Paul is in favor of legalizing
    heroine, free use, no restrictions, and proposed eliminating all animal cruelty laws as his way of reversing legalized abortion.  Apparently, these sound perfectly normal and rational to Ron Paul supporters.  Must be the drugs.     

  • Anonymous

    Great post, I totally agree, Romney 2012

  • Anonymous

    Another factor in assessing Romney is to understand he is an executive not a legislator . What’s the difference? An executive,if he is a good one , feels the responsibility to make positive change. To a good executive its. It enough to stand on principal alone. A good executive will , without sacrificing core principals ,work to find some middle ground in order to make that positive change . In the case of abortion Romney found he had a core principal he could not violate so he vetoed a bill that meant destroying life and stood firm. When it came to health it was different . He was elected to get the finances of Massachusetts imbalance the federal government required that the state must care for anyone coming to a emergency room which was costing the state 2 billion dollars the heritage foundation had advocated for a star mandate for healthcare which meant 8percent of the population and almost 85 percent of the people wanted it it involved no government takeover of insurance companies or of the medical industry .to this day the vast majority of the star favor romneycare . Lastly: if Romney was so flip floppy , someone who had no core but always shifted which ever way it seemed politically beneficial then why didn’t he just say “sorry I made a mistake” the way newt did about his sitting on the couch wih palsied and his affairs etc Romney was honest and said it was the right move and even said “even if it cost me the election I will not say it was a mistake because “it wouldn’t be honest” that is a man of true character!

  • Anonymous

    I really think Rick Perry would be a better president than Santorm. Perry is also conservative. He might not speak like a politican, but he is down to earth. He more like one of us.

  • http://twitter.com/Paul4Pres Airfreddy

    Ron Paul is the Only one that can beat Obama. Time for you all to join with us. You can’t win without us so you may as well make this easy.

    Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu AGREES WITH RON PAUL
    http://youtu.be/0gN5UrPB-xA

  • Anonymous

    Bachmann would be ok if she wasn’t and insane warmongering radical.  No one but Paul.

  • Anonymous

    Ok first Pauls ideas were too old school…only fit for the 1800′s.  Now he is a progressive?  You people are off your rockers.

  • Anonymous

    Why does Santorum look like he trying his hardest not to crap his pants when he talks?  Just watch him next time in a debate…

  • Anonymous

    For disclosure sake, I am a Bachmann supporter.  Santorum has always been my second choice.  However, I just received a disturbing email from Nat Org for Gun Rights that states Santorum will not answer their candidate questionnaire.  Also, NOGA has a list of very anti second amendment votes Mr Santorum has cast. 

    Words of Jesus from Luke 22:36, “If you do not own a sword, sell your garment and buy one.”

    http://www.BornAgainHeathens.com

  • Anonymous

    I am not a Catholic but how disappointing to hear a Christian such as you bash another Christian church or other Christians.  Since you are so well versed in the Bible, you should know that there’s only one requirement for salvation and it has nothing to do with what church one belongs.  Churches and denominations do not save people.  Jesus Christ saves people.

  • Anonymous

    Catholics ask Mary to pray to Jesus for us.
    She is
    interceding, In the Rosary 
    we ask Mary to “Pray for us sinners.” 

    Mary is a “born again” Christian who received the Holy
    Spirit at the
    Pentecost and spoke in tongues 2000 years ago.(Acts 1:14, 2:3)

    Mary stood at the foot of the Cross. This is a woman I would like to have pray for me.
    As for your uninformed statement that Catholics are not Christian, I encourage you to visit
    http://www.davidmacd.com/catholic/are_catholics_christian.htm so that you can become more informed before stating untruths in such a public way.  As for your Spanish Inquisition comment, I could site 100 times more examples of the good that Catholics have brought to the Old World and the New.
    In Christ-

  • Anonymous

    Everybody keeps saying that Ron Paul wants to legalize drugs. What Ron Paul wants, is what we should all want, and that is the Fed. Government to get out of our business. Legalizing drugs or prostitution, or what ever, should be state issues. Ron Paul wants to abide by the Constitution. I believe that all the Fed. Govt. is suppose to do is fund the military, keep our country safe, and collect taxes. There might be one or two more things, but you get the gest of it. They have slowly been taking our rights away a little at a time.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Santorum’s “rise to the top?!?!” Damn GB lives in a fantasy world. Far more interesting than what Santorum told Beck on his show back in June is what Beck said to him.  Listen for yourselves:

    http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2011/06/is-glenn-beck-dog-or-is-he-closet.html 

  • kim martin

    Santorum doesn’t believe in the “illegal” alien.  He thinks “illegals” should be made citizens.  I think illegals are “ILLEGAL” and should go home, and leave the American jobs for Americans.  We should not reward illegals.  They broke the law, and at minimum should be sent home. 

  • Anonymous

    I figured out in 2010 that the Rhinos and Establishment Republicans attack anyone in their own party, that they think thet can’t control. In my district, the best man for the job was slandered so much by his own party, that there was no way he could win. The Party went and found their own candidate to run. He didn’t know anything about politics. He was an x Sports Announcer. He didn’t even live in the district. He rented an apartment so that he could run. That is why I am sick of both parties. I will vote for Ron Paul. i wouldn’t vote for Gingrech or romney, unless I have no other choice. Has it occured to anyone that Romney stays about the same in the polls, while the others go up and down? He is the establishments pick.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    They tried this in Alabama, and the vegetables were left in the fields to rot. Not such a good idea, even for the hateful and those on the right utterly lacking in compassion.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Catholicism is the ORIGINAL version of Christianity. You also don’t know the difference between a conservative and a reactionary (since Mr. Beck would be the last propagandist to point that out).

    http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/06/what-is-glenn-beck-politically.html 

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know if any of you have heard, but Harry reid is going to introduce legislation, when thy all come back to DC. to police the internet. Bill S 968. I have already contacted my Senators, but i am sure it won’t do any good, becaude they do what they want. The Fed. Govt. now owns the banks, the automobile industry, the health care industry, the epa, and the food distribution. Next they will be after our guns, then we are finished. Also Obama is going to try and raise the deby limit 1.2 trillion more dollars.

  • Anonymous

    And this way of thinking got us in the mess we are in now. I will vote for whom ever gets the nomination, because they can’t do any worse then Obama. At least they will be an American.

  • Anonymous

    She is not a Paul supporter. She said that she wouldn’t vote if Paul is the nominee. I am a Paul supporter, but I will vote for whom ever gets the nomination.

  • Anonymous

    It was? When was Jesus Pope?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Are you playing dumb again, or is this just natural for you?  Jesus did not start a faith or religion.  He was never the head of a church. He had a following. Period. They say that there is no such thing as a dumb question, but they have never seen an obnoxious hole like you ask questions before.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Man, you declare war on anyone who debunks your hero, don’t you?  You are the last person to call someone a “puke.”  If you had a lick of common sense, you’d know that it’s Beck who cannot be believed. 

  • Anonymous

    So leading around 12 people and teaching them how to spread the word of God would be doing what? You have serious mental issues you moron.

  • SoThere

    I declared war on a puke of a human being who faked his military service to make himself sound credible.

    If you ever get out of the nuthouse you would realize that I don’t care what a sicko like you has to say.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t ya just love those newsletters of his. A little bit racist isn’t he?  He even made a million dollars off of them!  His foreign policy would end the US as we know it.

  • Anonymous

    Except for the fact that we already know you can be believed.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Cormas/1135351380 John Cormas

    That’s what a work visa is for…..oh, darn, another inconvenient ”legal” way to work in the USA that’s already on the books.  And please don’t spout off (to Kim Martin) what you think R. Santorum believes without citing references….cause I doubt your getting it right.
    Santorum position on Immigration Santorum views the influx of foreign workers as damaging to the nation, both on the economic and social front. He was a strong advocate in former President Bush’s US-Mexico border fence initiative. He has voiced support for the contentious Guest Worker program, with strict limitations on any participation in Social Security as well as fast tracking of citizenship applications. http://2012.presidential-candidates.org/Santorum/

  • Anonymous

    Vicky33, what nonsense are you peddling today? And to boot, you’re trying to bait people into visiting your website…

    What a way to start the new year Vicky33.

    You’re such an idiot!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Cormas/1135351380 John Cormas

    You got a disturbing e-mail huh genius?

    from: http://www.ricksantorum.com/issues

    Defending 2nd Amendment Rights
    Coming from Pennsylvania, a state with a rich heritage of hunting and fishing, Senator Santorum understands firsthand the importance of preserving our constitutionally protected rights found in the 2nd Amendment. Senator Santorum fights to preserve this tradition, and will work to ensure these rights are not infringed upon.
    As a Senator, Rick Santorum opposed frivolous lawsuits against the gun industry by supporting legislation (The Protection of Lawful Commerce Act) that would protect law abiding firearms manufacturers and dealers from frivolous lawsuits attempting to hold them liable for criminal acts of third parties. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Cormas/1135351380 John Cormas

    And please don’t spout off what you think R. Santorum believes without citing references….cause I doubt your getting it right.
    Santorum position on Immigration Santorum views the influx of foreign workers as damaging to the nation, both on the economic and social front. He was a strong advocate in former President Bush’s US-Mexico border fence initiative. He has voiced support for the contentious Guest Worker program, with strict limitations on any participation in Social Security as well as fast tracking of citizenship applications. http://2012.presidential-candi

  • Anonymous

    We on the right do not lack compassion Vicky33. In fact, I feel sorry for you all the time. Furthermore, I feel sorry for almost all liberals and Democrats all the time. However, I don’t feel sorry for hardly any conservatives or Republicans. It’s kind of funny, you see the “right” as you like to describe us are generally willing to take care of ourselves than the “left”…

    You’re such an idiot.

  • Maboje Jokozela

    Catholics are Christians.  Just because they do not fit with your pastor/preacher’s definition, it does not make them non-Christian.  It kills me how so many “evangelicals’ seem to have appointed themselves as the judges of all other people.  What makes your interpretation of the Bible more correct than the next person?
    What would him being Catholic have to do with how well he would govern the Country?  All that should matter is that he will be a God-fearing leader, and will govern based on true principles.  Rick is a fine candidate as well as Bachman and Romney.  I would vote for any of them, but I believe that out of the three, Mitt Romney is the best prepared and suited to lead the country.  I hope that Santorum and Bachman will continue to be involved.
    People have criticized Romney for flip flopping but it is not correct.  He flipped and many issues to become more conservative.  Is that not what we would want every person running for office to do?  His policy and record while he was governor was also conservative.
    As far as the health care bill he helped create in Mass, he moved them from far left towards the right.  I am an insurance agent and have read extensively into the details of “Romney Care” and it was the right thing for Massachusetts.  One of the main reasons is that it was and is one of only 5 states that have what they call “guarantee issue”.  This means that no one can be denied by private health insurance companies based on pre-existing conditions.  This causes the cost of health insurance to sky rocket and also caused people to not get it until they need it.  They made it mandatory for one to have insurance (similar to car insurance rules) or face a penalty.  This has solved the uninsured problem as Massachusetts leads the nation in having the least amount of un-insured individuals with only 3% not having insurance.  The complete health care bill that Mass has would not work in most other states, but it did push them a far distance in the ‘right’ direction. 
    I was nervous about it until I read up on it and it should make sense that before you criticize something, you should fist try and understand it.  i.e. Catholicism, Romney care, of Mormonism (The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
    When I finally picked up a Copy of the Book of Mormon and read it, I was amazed at what I found.  I found it to compliment the Bible and clarify a lot of disputed doctrine.  I helped me to change my life and helped bring me closer to God.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=704130538 Mitchina Soli

    As a struggling single San Antonio parent, making < 35K a year and trying to keep a home -  and lemmie tell ya – it ain't easy – I donated $10 to RS just last Friday… without knowing about his sneaky rise over the weekend. 

    I have decided… and I put my money where my mouth USED to be… on Rick Santorum.  Glenn, I liked him on your show and apprecaite that you had him on – although you wanted him to be perfect from my recolection – he was impressive then and with his kind and level headed campaign with honor… it all just cemeneted for me last week.

    I wished I could afford GBTV – cuz I would LOVE to see that.  Tell ya what, from one Texan to another… for every $1 more that I donate to Rick Santorum, will you give $100 to him? (that's about the right comparison between us, I am sure.. lol)

    I will not each lunch every day for the next month if giving my lunch money to our country gets him in… actually, I would sell my house and live in an apartment if that would do it as well… I just don't want that to be the inevtiable that will happen for socialism and get nothing in return.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, Vicky33, you are demonstrating an immense amount of ignorance in this post.

    If you were trying to correct someone on what Churches were considered Christian you may have a qualified comment. But, it’s apparent that you didn’t either read the comment, or understand the point.

    Whichever the case may be, your interjection is stupid Vicky33…

    Really stupid…

    You’re such an idiot!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=704130538 Mitchina Soli

    WTH??? Okay Sam, you did just what you passively accused her of doing. What
    the hell was that all about? Talk about taking it to a whole ‘nuther non-point.

    And Ron Paul has his fair share of baggage as THEY ALL do. It’s just a matter
    of what flavor kool-aid you like better… and the flavor of Santorum tastes far
    better to me as well from any of the other unsweetened lemons running.

    I wouldn’t go as far as Strtlk there but I see you as a man who vigorously
    declares righteousness from Jesus… right along all those other things you say.
    Not cool, man, not cool. And rightfully puts your righteousness in question.

    In the end, no matter who winds up running against Ohdumber, if I have to I
    will support them (maybe not with my money) and pass out right after I pull the
    voting trigger from holding my nose… it will feel like yet another Groundhog
    day four years apart, but I will – anything to get that arrogant criminal we have now out of
    there.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=704130538 Mitchina Soli

    never mind the weirdos in here Marlene – just keep being civil.  ;)

  • Anonymous

    Vicky33, Vicky33, Vicky33, why do you put your foot in your mouth so much? Is it compulsory? Is it a fetish? Why do you think comments like this make you look soooooo stupid?

    You’re such an idiot!

  • Anonymous

    Vicky33, Vicky33, Vicky33, it’s always Beck, Beck, Beck for you even when it’s not Beck, isn’t it?

    You just don’t get it Vicky33. You are such an idiot!!!

  • Anonymous

    We on the right do not lack compassion Vicky33. In fact, I feel sorry for you all the time. Furthermore, I feel sorry for almost all liberals and Democrats all the time. However, I don’t feel sorry for hardly any conservatives or Republicans.

    It’s kind of funny, the “right” as you like to describe us, are generally willing to take care of ourselves while the people on the “left” are not generally willing to do so…

    You’re such an idiot.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, those on the left want the government to take care of them for them, God forbid anyone other than Jimmy Carter get dirt on their hands from the left.

  • Anonymous

    Hallelujah brother!

  • Anonymous

    How can you support someone so inexperience as Rick Santorum he has some years to go before he should run for president…   You of all people should be supporting Rick Perry now you live inTexas the greatest state of all….  So what is up with you?????

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jake-Knight/100000271715184 Jake Knight

    Yet he said Newt is his role model, and his mentor, and the man who got him started…

  • http://twitter.com/Flobelly Jeanne Ballard

    If Santorium is so conservative why did he favor Arlen Spectors bill to limit gun rights ?

  • http://www.google.com Doodaddio

    Share this url about glenn beck – welcome to the Johnny One Note concerto!

    The one thing dependable about Vivian here is he is utterly and completely insane. This Beck hate thing has gotten the best of you before, Viv, and it will again because it is a compulsion for you to come here and post your inane opinions presented as facts.

    Most people are on to you by now, malcontent, but just in case there are some here who don’t know who the hell you are, here’s a sample of your master works that got you kicked off this site a few months ago:

    ***********************************************************

    “You f$%king coward! Tell the world what your
    name is, so that henceforth we can all know who the scumbag liar is on the road
    to hell.”

    “You are a much bigger dirtbag than Beck ever dreamed of being. I’d love to meet
    with you sometime; when you lie about my marriage, I get so furious that I’d
    happily rip your face off and shove it up your ass.”

    “Come by my office; you can have a very brief chat with my lawyers:
    Smith and Wesson. Tip: call the county morgue first for a pick up.”

    “I’ll cut your face off and shove it up
    your ass.”

    *************************************

    Yes, all that in response to one reply to him. It was enough to get him barred from the site. Now by some miraculous turn he is back and he’s as narcissistic as ever.

  • http://www.google.com Doodaddio

    Share this url about glenn beck – welcome to the Johnny One Note concerto!

    The one thing dependable about Vivian here is he is utterly and
    completely insane. This Beck hate thing has gotten the best of you
    before, Viv, and it will again because it is a compulsion for you to
    come here and post your inane opinions presented as facts.

    Most people are on to you by now, malcontent, but just in case there are
    some here who don’t know who the hell you are, here’s a sample of your
    master works that got you kicked off this site a few months ago:

    ***********************************************************

    “You f$%king coward! Tell the world what your
    name is, so that henceforth we can all know who the scumbag liar is on the road
    to hell.”

    “You are a much bigger dirtbag than Beck ever dreamed of being. I’d love to meet
    with you sometime; when you lie about my marriage, I get so furious that I’d
    happily rip your face off and shove it up your ass.”

    “Come by my office; you can have a very brief chat with my lawyers:
    Smith and Wesson. Tip: call the county morgue first for a pick up.”

    “I’ll cut your face off and shove it up
    your ass.”

    *************************************

    Yes,
    all that in response to one reply to him. It was enough to get him
    barred from the site. Now by some miraculous turn he is back and he’s as
    narcissistic as ever.

  • http://www.google.com Doodaddio

    All you John Birch Society guys are pushing your favorite pariah this season. Not everyone can get away with that nutty as a football bat look, but on you it looks good.

  • Anonymous

    Quiet dignity?!?  The man wears a constant look of smugness, he condescends to nearly all of his opponents, he openly thinks the idea of “pursuit of happiness” is harmful to us (I’m not making that up, here are his thoughts on it: http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cato-at-liberty.org%2Frick-santorum-and-limited-government%2F&h=6AQHWmoMXAQHkg1kEFHUXYs59zmbILJHOZ2e_IuQ_7ZdwRQ
    Santorum is openly hostile to gays and Muslims, he doesn’t believe that we have the right to privacy and he doesn’t believe in separation of church and state.  He sounds more like a collectivist than a person who believes in liberty.  I guess that is why Beck likes him so much, he wants to turn the world into a giant Bedford Falls, (which is a fictional place by the way, it never has existed).  He wants to force his values on everyone and persecute anyone who disagrees with him.  nothing Christian or Conservative about him.  He belongs in a home…

  • http://www.google.com Doodaddio

    Hey Viv, I just thought you ought to know I flagged your comment as inappropriate. Anytime you try to instruct people in Christianity it is inappropriate. Here’s a few of your favorites that explain why it is inappropriate for you to even utter the name of Christ:

    ***********************************************************

    “You f$%king coward! Tell the world what your
    name is, so that henceforth we can all know who the scumbag liar is on the road
    to hell.”

    “You are a much bigger dirtbag than Beck ever dreamed of being. I’d love to meet
    with you sometime; when you lie about my marriage, I get so furious that I’d
    happily rip your face off and shove it up your ass.”

    “Come by my office; you can have a very brief chat with my lawyers:
    Smith and Wesson. Tip: call the county morgue first for a pick up.”

    “I’ll cut your face off and shove it up
    your ass.”

    *************************************

    Yes,
    all that in response to one reply to him. It was enough to get him
    barred from the site. Now by some miraculous turn he is back and he’s as
    narcissistic as ever. 

    No sir, I wouldn’t advise listening to anything this narcissist says about Jesus Christ.  He doesn’t know him. He just likes bludgeoning Christians over the head with what he thinks Christianity is about.

  • http://www.google.com Doodaddio

    Welcome to the Johnny One Note concerto!

    The one thing dependable about Vivian here is he is utterly and
    completely insane. This Beck hate thing has gotten the best of you
    before, Viv, and it will again because it is a compulsion for you to
    come here and post your inane opinions presented as facts.

    Most people are on to you by now, malcontent, but just in case there are
    some here who don’t know who the hell you are, here’s a sample of your
    master works that got you kicked off this site a few months ago:

    ***********************************************************

    “You f$%king coward! Tell the world what your
    name is, so that henceforth we can all know who the scumbag liar is on the road
    to hell.”

    “You are a much bigger dirtbag than Beck ever dreamed of being. I’d love to meet
    with you sometime; when you lie about my marriage, I get so furious that I’d
    happily rip your face off and shove it up your ass.”

    “Come by my office; you can have a very brief chat with my lawyers:
    Smith and Wesson. Tip: call the county morgue first for a pick up.”

    “I’ll cut your face off and shove it up
    your ass.”

    *************************************

    Yes,
    all that in response to one reply to him. It was enough to get him
    barred from the site. Now by some miraculous turn he is back and he’s as
    narcissistic as ever. 

    Flag this dirtbag – he’s the biggest troll on the internet.

  • Ryan Frederick

    when you’re ranting sounds like this then http://youtu.be/CGmOCAgJ24U then their is realy know help for you.

  • Anonymous

    RON PAUL IS THE MAN- A NATION ONCE AGAIN–  SAVE AMERICA- SAVE FREEDOM –  SAVE DEMOCRACY AND LADY LIBERTY–ELECT A HUMAN BEING THAT HAS PROVEN TO BE A HUMAN BEING– HONEST– AND TRUE BLUE—  VOTE RON PAUL  –  PRESIDENT — 2012–  HIS RECORD SPEAKS FOR ITSELF–  RON PAUL – A GREAT AMERICAN. I AM SURE GEORGE WASHINGTON WOULD AGREE IF HE WERE HERE TODAY.

  • Robert Potter

    You have to love a comment page on a politician that strays off into the area of religious conflict. 
    1.  ALL abrahamic religions are praying to the same god (or God if you prefer).  So please get past the smaller differences of opinion.  Enough wars have been fought over them and lives lost to them, we need to move past the stances of the Romans on religion and learn to deal that people will think differently than you and that does not make them automatically wrong.

    2.  This is about whether or not Rick can properly run the office of POTUS, his personal religious beliefs, according to the constitution, should have no bearing and are therfore irrelivant.

    3.  As to #2: I am not simple, but the fact is too much time is spent on religion in our politics.  I am interested in whether or not the person is willing to REPRESENT the people and our views or if he is more interested in his own views to care about mine.  A good example of this behaviour is our current president.  I honestly think Rick can do a fine job of representing, and following through on, what the people tell him they want.  I like a lot of what Ron stands for but he is so solid in his personal convictions that I am afraid he will not listen to the voice of the people and will just do what his own ideology tells him.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dianne-Pierson/100002522378262 Dianne Pierson

    To:  Sam Fox

    I am happy to clarify some of your misunderstandings of the Catholic Faith.  We have so much in common and we should stand shoulder to shoulder as Christians in this
    morally bankrupt time in our country’s history.

    Catholics to not pray TO Mary, we ask her for her help in our prayers/petitions to her son, Christ our Savior.  She is Christ’s mother and as such we believe that He may listen to her intercessions for us, on our behalf.   As a loving Son, how can he tell hismother, “no”?
    Some Catholic priests can be married.  The Eastern Rite of the Catholic Church allows already married men to seek consecration into the priesthood.   Conversely, if they are already consecrated Priests first, then they cannot seek the sacrament of marriage.

    And the Roman Rite is now allowing some married priests from various protestant congregations to be ordained into the Catholic priesthood.  

    Thank you for this opportunity to explain some of the most common misunderstanding of my faith. 

    Most misunderstandings of our faiths are born from a lack of accurate information.

    Peace to you.   Mims

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Trisha-Holmeide/100000669641562 Trisha Holmeide

    Good post Robert, but I’d like to address the issue of whether a president or any one in government needs to “listen to the people” or follow their personal convictions.  This has been an issue for many years.  My understanding is there is only one question as to the behavior, voting, supporting or otherwise conducting business as an elected official–that is whether they will protect,uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States and do everything possible to protect US citizens and interests from our enemies, foreign and domestic.   Regardless of personal ideology, particular religious beliefs, or anything else he or she must be relied upon to faithfully execute those duties that convey the oath of the office he or she may hold.  That means the President and our elected officials would have to “ignore the voices of the people” if those voices were demanding anything that was not constitutional–even if it was the majority of the population that wanted it.  Our Founders knew people can be deceived, brainwashed, tricked into going for things that could undermine our Liberty and set it up so we couldn’t be swung or swayed every time a bunch of people wanted to change things.  Above all else the Constitution must be protected and preserved for IT is the only thing between us and Tyranny– 

  • http://www.facebook.com/Marisa.Armagh Risa Armagh

    I don’t know if you are aware of this or not SamFox, but the Roman Catholic Church founded by God-made-man, Jesus Christ. He said: “Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build My Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it… Feed my lambs; feed My sheep” (Matt. 16:18,19; John 21:15,17). He also said: “He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who gathers not with me scatters” (Matt.12:30).
    1517:  Lutheran Church was founded by Martin Luther, a former priest of the Roman Catholic Church. This marked the beginning of the Protestant Reformation 1521:  Anabaptist first appeared in Zwickau, in the present kingdom of Saxony. Initially, they were primarily against infant baptism. 1525: Schwenkfeldians were founded by Kaspar of Schwenkfeld, aulic councillor of Duke Frederick of Liegnitz and canon. At first he associated himself with Luther, but later opposed the latter in his Christology, as well as in his conception of the Eucharist, and his doctrine of justification. 1531: The Socinians and other Anti-Trinitarians attacked the fundamental doctrine of the Blessed Trinity. Chief founder of Anti-Trinitarians was Laelius Socinus, teacher of jurisprudence at Siena, and his nephew, Faustus Socinus. 1536:  Mennonites founded by Menno Simons, a former Catholic priest and later an Anabaptist elder. They deny infant baptism and the real presence of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist. 1534:  Church of England (Anglicanism) was founded by King Henry VIII when he threw off the authority of the Pope and proclaimed himself the head of the Church in England, because the Pope refused to declare invalid his marriage with Queen Catherine. 1560:  The Presbyterian denomination was begun by John Knox who was dissatisfied with Anglicanism. 16001608:  The Baptist church was launched by John Smyth in Amsterdam, Holland. 1620: The Swiss Mennonites split into Amish or Upland Mennonites and Lowland Mennonites. 1671: Quakers were founded by John George Fox of Drayton in Leicestershire. He favored a visionary spiritualism, and found in the soul of each man a portion of the Divine intelligence. All are allowed to preach, according as the spirit incites them. 17001744:  The Methodist church was launched by John and Charles Wesley in England. 1774:  The Unitarians were founded by Theophilus Lindley in London. 1784:  Episcopalian denomination was begun by Samuel Seabury who was dissatisfied with Presbyterianism. 1787:  The founder of The Salvation Army is William Booth, who quit the Anglicans, and then the Methodists, and set up his own version of Christianity. 18001822: Mormons founded by Joseph Smith, who made his appearance with supposed revelations in 1822. 1872: The Jehovah’s Witness Church was developed by Charles Russell. 1879:  Mrs. Mary Baker Eddy began the Christian Scientist religion basing it upon an outright denial of Original Sin and its effects. 1896:  Ballinger Booth, the son of William Booth, quit The Salvation Army and started his own church. The Seventh-Day Adventists, the Church of Christ, The Church of the Nazarene, or any of the various Pentecostal Churches, etc. are also among the hundreds of new churches founded by men within the past 150 years or so.1900 2000Over 33,000 Sects “Scattered” Outside The One Church Founded By Christ

  • Anonymous

    Good Grief!! We are talking President of the US not president of Christianity. Santorum probably believes in the principles of Christianity, as I would hope all the candidates do, those being the 10 commandments and Love Thy Neighbor.  Aside from those principles, our presdident needs to have conservative leadership abilities, willingness to make the hard choices, and the firm desire and goal of restoring our great Constitution.
    My problem with Santorum is that he refuses to say he will support the person in his party who is nominated, believing only he can save this nation. He needs to be vetted like all the rest and he needs to trust the American people to choose wisely after hearing the facts. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Benny, the racist coward, Hill, there are psychologists who can handle your bad habit of projecting your weaknesses onto others. 

    Also, like Todd, you’re siding with the bigot who does not consider Catholicism to be Christian. Just nice to understand that, yes, like Beck and many of his followers, you are a bigot.  And that’s just so smart of you.

    Did I write smart?  I meant typical and pathetic. 

    Ignorance in a post.  Uh huh.  It’s not a post, Mr. Pretend to Know it All; it’s a comment to a post.  God, I love the irony of that sentence.  Just pathetic and pathologically hateful.

  • Anonymous

    Excuse me, but you don’t sound very Christian.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    You have no idea what compassion means.  Look it up and apologize for your ignorant remark.

  • Anonymous

    Victor, If you listened to Beck, really, you’d become a kinder, more thoughtful human being.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Awe, Benny, the racist coward, Hill, still projecting, still demonstrating that you don’t have a life outside of foolishly attacking Beck’s critics.  How pathetic are you?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Sure you do; you care about what a sicko like GB has to say.

    God, you’re easy to mock.  You are projecting when you write of a “puke of a human being.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Being a rabbi.  The “church” did not start in his name until after his death; and it was not formalized until it was adopted as state church.  

    Nice to see you siding with the anti-Catholic bigot, Todd. Until now you’ve hidden your bigotry pretty well.  Bigotry (not to mention believing and following a propagandist like Beck) is a mental issue.  Damn you are easy to mock!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Those on the left want the gov’t to protect the public interests. You morons want fascism, rule by, of and for the corporations.  Got more ignorance to demonstrate Todd?  As a follower of the Master of Ignorance, Mr. Propagandist Beck, I’m sure that ignorance is your forte.

    It’s amazing how working stiffs like you can get brainwashed to support policies that benefit the 1%.  

    As for your run-on sentence, you’re either ignorant beyond words about who gets their hands dirty (prison guards dig the dirt?!?!), or you’re just being a reactionary prick with nothing of particular usefulness to write.  I suspect that it’s a combo of both.  

    Pathetic and sad.

  • SoThere

    Sorry, but I really don’t care what a sicko like you has to say.

  • Anonymous

    As Americans, we all have to stand behind one candidate.
    As I’ve read comments on this format, I’m dismayed at the
    disparity of views on the candidates.  Very few of the
    candidates have been talking about our national debt which
    will crush us into collapse of our economy.  This has to be
    our first priority.  Your future, your children’s future and your
    grandchildren and great-grandchildrens’ future is at stake.

    Can anyone tell me which candidate they would choose to
    get us out of debt.  I can only think of two who are running
    and one who is not.

    Please take the time to research the candidates before it
    is too late.

    God Bless you all

  • http://www.google.com Doodaddio

    Talk about followers – until this occupy business you never gave a crap about distribution of wealth, now it’s your number two topic behind trashing Beck. You’re an imbecile with a couple of college degrees, trying to fit in and become a leader of younger radicals who all look at you and say, “Pathetic and sad”, bald-headed old man.
    You are only attracted to weirdness, and your relationship with the Occupy crowd will last only as long as your narcissist behavior allows you to think you are in charge of something, or influential among the leadership.

    You really have started to spin out of control once again, and soon I am certain your decompensation will get the better of you and you will be screaming threats and curses once again. What ever control you were able to attain during your absence is rapidly slipping away and you are proportionately slipping back into madness once again. We can see it in your attitudes, your writing, your selection of alignments with fringe causes like Occupy, in short, you are a class A nut job.

    Now, as before you are back to attack mode on Todd. How long before you turn your hissing, fang exposed maw in my direction? I am certain you can’t maintain for long, so bring it crazy man.

    *****************************

    Want some examples of your madness? I thought you’d never ask…

    “Come by my office; you can have a very brief chat with my lawyers:
    Smith and Wesson. Tip: call the county morgue first for a pick up.”

    “I’ll cut your face off and shove it up your ass.”

    “If you were an actual person and I had the
    resources, I could and would sue your sleazy and worthless ass for libel.”
    You f$%king coward! Tell the world what your
    name is, so that henceforth we can all know who the scumbag liar is on the road
    to hell.”

    “I’d love to meet with you sometime; when you lie
    about my marriage, I get so furious that I’d happily rip your face off and
    shove it up your ass.”

    *****************

    Yes, you wrote all of that and more, or are you going to deny that as well as the episode where you contacted Todd’s wife on Facebook to threaten her and then claimed you only did it once which in your twisted brain makes it OK?

    Oh, I have plenty of proof of your insanity, Mr. Occupy, and you are going to see a lot more of it. Your BS will not go unchallenged, I assure you.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t believe a man’s religion should be a criteria for
    running for the presidency.  The criteria should be who
    can get America on the path to fiscal responsibility. 
    There are liberal Republicans who would keep the status
    quo.  We need someone with the guts and tenacity to
    straighten out this countries debt.

    I’m actually appalled at some of the comments I have read
    here.  True Christians, no matter what religion they belong
    to would not talk like some of the comments shown here.

    Please, get back on track to who of the candidates will
    bring us back to fiscal responsibility and work on getting
    jobs back in this country.
    Thank you.

  • http://www.google.com Doodaddio

    You of all people have no room to be throwing stones, bub. Now you are an expert on religion too? Astounding considering your history and lies. Lies to this day you continue to either justify or deny, but they are lies all the same.

    Until this occupy business you never gave a crap
    about distribution of wealth, now it’s your number two topic behind
    trashing Beck. You’re an imbecile with a couple of college degrees,
    trying to fit in and become a leader of younger radicals who all look at
    you and say, “Pathetic and sad”, bald-headed old man. You are only
    attracted to weirdness, and your relationship with the Occupy crowd will
    last only as long as your narcissist behavior allows you to think you
    are in charge of something, or influential among the leadership.

    You
    really have started to spin out of control once again, and soon I am
    certain your decompensation will get the better of you and you will be
    screaming threats and curses once again. What ever control you were able
    to attain during your absence is rapidly slipping away and you are
    proportionately slipping back into madness once again. We can see it in
    your attitudes, your writing, your selection of alignments with fringe
    causes like Occupy, in short, you are a class A nut job.

    Now, as
    before you are back to attack mode on Todd. How long before you turn
    your hissing, fang exposed maw in my direction? I am certain you can’t
    maintain for long, so bring it crazy man.

    *****************************

    Want some examples of your madness? I thought you’d never ask…

    “Come by my office; you can have a very brief chat with my lawyers:
    Smith and Wesson. Tip: call the county morgue first for a pick up.”

    “I’ll cut your face off and shove it up your ass.”

    “If you were an actual person and I had the resources, I could and would sue your sleazy and worthless ass for libel.”

    “You
    f$%king coward! Tell the world what your name is, so that henceforth we
    can all know who the scumbag liar is on the road to hell.”

    “I’d
    love to meet with you sometime; when you lie about my marriage, I get so
    furious that I’d happily rip your face off and shove it up your ass.”

    *****************

    Yes,
    you wrote all of that and more, or are you going to deny that as well
    as the episode where you contacted Todd’s wife on Facebook to threaten
    her and then claimed you only did it once which in your twisted brain
    makes it OK?

    Oh, I have plenty of proof of your insanity, Mr.
    Occupy, and you are going to see a lot more of it. Your BS will not go
    unchallenged, I assure you.

  • http://www.google.com Doodaddio

    Back in attack mode again, I see. You managed to regain a foothold and now are abusing that in order to pursue your insanity once again. You are the proverbial idiot screaming in the wilderness. Here are some of the reasons we call you Crazy Victor – and it is because you are crazy, megalomaniac/narcissist Victor Tiffany:

    *****************************

    “Come by my office; you can have a very brief chat with my lawyers:
    Smith and Wesson. Tip: call the county morgue first for a pick up.”

    “I’ll cut your face off and shove it up your ass.”

    “If you were an actual person and I had the resources, I could and would sue your sleazy and worthless ass for libel.”

    “You f$%king coward! Tell the world what your name is, so that henceforth we
    can all know who the scumbag liar is on the road to hell.”

    “I’d love to meet with you sometime; when you lie about my marriage, I get so
    furious that I’d happily rip your face off and shove it up your ass.”

    *****************

    Yes, you wrote all of that and more, or are you going to deny that as well
    as the episode where you contacted Todd’s wife on Facebook to threaten
    her and then claimed you only did it once which in your twisted brain makes it OK?

    Oh, I have plenty of proof of your insanity, and you are going to see a lot more of it. Your BS will not go unchallenged, I assure you.

  • http://www.google.com Doodaddio

    You speaking about psychology is like a clog telling a plumber how to remove it.

    Here are some of the reasons we call you Crazy Victor – and it is because you are crazy, megalomaniac/narcissist Victor Tiffany:

    *****************************

    “Come by my office; you can have a very brief chat with my lawyers:
    Smith and Wesson. Tip: call the county morgue first for a pick up.”

    “I’ll cut your face off and shove it up your ass.”

    “If you were an actual person and I had the resources, I could and would sue your sleazy and worthless ass for libel.”

    “You f$%king coward! Tell the world what your name is, so that henceforth we
    can all know who the scumbag liar is on the road to hell.”

    “I’d love to meet with you sometime; when you lie about my marriage, I get so
    furious that I’d happily rip your face off and shove it up your ass.”

    *****************

    Yes, you wrote all of that and more, or are you going to deny that as well
    as the episode where you contacted Todd’s wife on Facebook to threaten
    her and then claimed you only did it once which in your twisted brain makes it OK?

    Oh, I have plenty of proof of your insanity, and you are going to see a lot
    more of it. Your BS will not go unchallenged, I assure you.

  • http://www.google.com Doodaddio

    You are unworthy of compassion because you lack the very quality you are demanding of others. Want proof? I’ll show you proof. Here are some of the reasons we call you Crazy Victor – and it is because you are crazy, megalomaniac/narcissist Victor Tiffany:

    *****************************

    “Come by my office; you can have a very brief chat with my lawyers:
    Smith and Wesson. Tip: call the county morgue first for a pick up.”

    “I’ll cut your face off and shove it up your ass.”

    “If you were an actual person and I had the resources, I could and would sue your sleazy and worthless ass for libel.”

    “You f$%king coward! Tell the world what your name is, so that henceforth we
    can all know who the scumbag liar is on the road to hell.”

    “I’d love to meet with you sometime; when you lie about my marriage, I get so
    furious that I’d happily rip your face off and shove it up your ass.”

    *****************

    Yes, you wrote all of that and more, or are you going to deny that as well
    as the episode where you contacted Todd’s wife on Facebook to threaten
    her and then claimed you only did it once which in your twisted brain makes it OK?

    Oh, I have plenty of proof of your insanity, and you are going to see a lot
    more of it. Your BS will not go unchallenged, I assure you.

  • http://www.google.com Doodaddio

    Now with the race card? You are a bald headed old white man, so I suppose you call that a racist remark because I used the word white in the description. Fine, BHOWM, if that makes me a racist so be it. The judgement of a proven narcissist is expected, and invalid all in the same breath.

    Here are some of the reasons we call you Crazy Victor – and it is because you are crazy, megalomaniac/narcissist Victor Tiffany:

    *****************************

    “Come by my office; you can have a very brief chat with my lawyers:
    Smith and Wesson. Tip: call the county morgue first for a pick up.”

    “I’ll cut your face off and shove it up your ass.”

    “If you were an actual person and I had the resources, I could and would sue your sleazy and worthless ass for libel.”

    “You f$%king coward! Tell the world what your name is, so that henceforth we
    can all know who the scumbag liar is on the road to hell.”

    “I’d love to meet with you sometime; when you lie about my marriage, I get so
    furious that I’d happily rip your face off and shove it up your ass.”

    *****************

    Yes, you wrote all of that and more, or are you going to deny that as well
    as the episode where you contacted Todd’s wife on Facebook to threaten
    her and then claimed you only did it once which in your twisted brain makes it OK?

    Oh, I have plenty of proof of your insanity, and you are going to see a lot
    more of it. Your BS will not go unchallenged, I assure you.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GR2F7ZHJRA2AVVT7CXGNBNXLY4 Dorris P

    Please you are the kind that tells untruth to start a war.You also don’t read before you criticize.OR MAYBE YOU READ TO CRITICIZE,Get a better pare of glasses or have some one read to you that can understand what is really being said.

    You sound like a man with a lot of issue,hate being one of them.That is how you arre comming across.

    I read the same column you did and I didn’t pick up any thing you wrote about Glenn talking against Catholics.s and I have family that are Catholic and would be quick to defend. so just follow the instruction given above.

    AND HAVE A GREAT NEW YEAR.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GR2F7ZHJRA2AVVT7CXGNBNXLY4 Dorris P

    In reading these comments ,I am surprised, I didn’t reliaze we hade so many uninformed idiots out there. You must not hate Beck  to much you take time
    to read his articials .
    If I don’t like or respect what some one has to say  just don’t waste my time to listen or read ,anything about that person.
    I don’t like or respect Barack Obama ,so when he come on TV I change the station, when something is written about him I don’t read it.
    Now that is how you don’t waste time on listening ,or reading anybody articals that you don’t respect.

    You just proved you want to follow the stupid.

    If I would ever come across any thing you would write again ,I just won’t waste my time to read it.
    Get the Message???????????

    DP

  • http://www.facebook.com/yvonnemaj Yvonne Atwater Johnson

    If you try to claim that Ron paul is conservative you are crazy.  Legalized drrugs and prostitution, gay marriage and gays in the military are anything but conservative views.  The man is so far left in most of his views, he is even past BO. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Rick Perry, a dumb version of George Bush. What could go wrong?

  • Anonymous

    Awe, Vicky33, you just didn’t get the point did you? And I thought you were going to start ignoring me, no? But, any who, it’s nice to see you’re still the same old curmudgeonly little man who doesn’t know what the topic is about.

    I never claimed that Catholics weren’t Christians Vicky33. In fact, I made no claim at all about anything concerning the topic of the post other than you didn’t understand the point and you put your own foot in your mouth…

    Go on Vicky33, teach us more…

    You’re such an idiot!

  • Anonymous

    Vicky33, why do you bother? Was that supposed to be a defense?

    You are such an idiot!

  • Anonymous

    Vicky33, you’re such an idiot!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Reading the comments below, it never ceases to amaze me just how self-righteous and arrogant the most ignorant members of our society can be.  Of course, Beck has you convinced — even as he lies over and over and over (yes, we prove that) — that you’re in on secret, special information.

    Beck has you enthusiastically embracing the values of those who would toss you aside if there were profits to be made doing so. Profits before people: that is Beck’s priority for you. I’ll let the author of Debunking Glenn Beck make the case since the ardent defenders of sleazy propaganda have deceitfully smeared me below.  

    Karl Rogers writes:

    The purpose of the propaganda from the right, such as disseminated by Beck and others, is to further alienate the nationalistic conservative and libertarian rightwingers from any conception of good government in order to disavow any possibility of democracy. Hence all other media is misrepresented as “liberal”, the federal government is misrepresented as being involved in some Marxist conspiracy, and corporatism is equated with freedom. The fact of the matter is that multinational corporations have taken over all three branches of the U.S. government. They are transforming the Republic into a corporate-state. They have already defeated the Left Opposition; now they are defeating the Right Opposition. Beck et al. are directing their propaganda against the conservative working and middle classes. They are deceiving them from the fact that they have been duped, in order to suppress any resistance from the armed proportion of the citizenry, which is the proportion that the corporatists are actually afraid of rising up in rebellion. Hence, the purpose of the propaganda is to misdirect the blame and encourage conservatives and libertarians to either vote Republican or stay out of political life altogether. “Go back to your churches, homes, and neighborhoods, because government is a lost cause and democratic participation is anarchism and mob-rule.” That’s the message.http://www.facebook.com/pages/Debunking-Glenn-Beck/108099032602065

  • Anonymous

    Oh, Vicky33, you’re so confused, so misinformed. And….

    You’re such an idiot!!!

  • Anonymous

    Vicky33, you are too stupid to play this game. You just admitted that mocking is your strategy…

    You’re such an idiot!

  • Anonymous

    Oh, Vicky33, there’s just so much wrong with every single thing you write.

    Each time you write something you claim someone is a bigot, a racist, a reactionary, a whatever without any basis to make that claim. We all ought to sue you for libel.

    On the other hand, you’ll try to claim the same thing about me except you’ll forget that I demonstrate that you are an idiot every time I post to you. Which is why, virtually every response from me to you gets the tag line, “you’re such an idiot!”

    In this case, when the Church started is really immaterial. Jesus gathered followers, provided them guidelines for their faith. I mean really Vicky33, if the Church wasn’t formed because of Jesus, what was the cause? You claim to be smart. Provide some valid and sound evidence that the Church would have been formed without Jesus and I will forever leave you alone.

    But, remember, it has to be valid, it has to be sound, it has to be provable.

    And, as a show of good faith I will reserve calling you an idiot in this response…

  • Anonymous

    Oh, Vicky33, there’s just so much wrong with every single thing you write.

    Each time you write something you claim someone is a bigot, a racist, a reactionary, a whatever without any basis to make that claim. We all ought to sue you for libel.

    On the other hand, you’ll try to claim the same thing about me except you’ll forget that I demonstrate that you are an idiot every time I post to you. Which is why, virtually every response from me to you gets the tag line, “you’re such an idiot!”

    In this case, when the Church started is really immaterial. Jesus gathered followers, provided them guidelines for their faith. I mean really Vicky33, if the Church wasn’t formed because of Jesus, what was the cause? You claim to be smart. Provide some valid and sound evidence that the Church would have been formed without Jesus and I will forever leave you alone.

    But, remember, it has to be valid, it has to be sound, it has to be provable.

    And, as a show of good faith I will reserve calling you an idiot in this response…

  • Anonymous

    Oh Vicky33, where to start. Let’s see, “those on the left want the gov’t to protect the public interests.” It’s “government” not “gov’t”. You shouldn’t be using a non-conforming abbreviation of a word when you are criticizing someone on grammar, should you?

    What else? What else, “the public interests”? This is an unconventional use of the word interest as a plural. The conventional phrase would be “the public interest”. It just sounds stupid Vicky33.

    “Got more ignorance to demonstrate Todd?” Instead, it should have read, “Do you have anymore ignorance to demonstrate Todd?” This isn’t a milk commercial Vicky33. First, your sentence is a statement, not a question. Yes, yes, I know. The California Milk Processing Board uses this same kind of statement as a question in their ad campaign. They are trying to sell milk. They are not trying to critique someone else’s comment.

    Master of Ignorance and ignorance is your forte… This is a particularly dim-witted concoction of words. If Beck is the Master and Todd the follower, wouldn’t Todd be a student and not a specialist?

    On the topic of working stiffs and the 1%. This is also a particularly obtuse argument. There is a potential risk and reward concept there that you seem to not understand. Todd doesn’t work directly for a corporation. He works for the state. But, in any case, he wouldn’t likely have a job at all if the one percent weren’t there to take the risk. In fact, Todd could take the risk and be of the 1% anytime he chooses to do so. In fact, you could to. Are you brave enough to take a risk that could crush you if it didn’t play out? Are you smart enough to know where you could put your money or effort in such a way that the risk was minimized enough so that you were either guaranteed to reap the reward or take the loss and not be ruined? Vicky33, you risked you reputation when you started your anti-Beck campaign. What reward have you received from it so far?

    On guards and dirty hands, you really don’t know what it takes to be a LEO do you?

    And more hasty generalizations…

    There just so much more wrong with your response and I am so tired of the blathering idiocy which comes forth from you. How can I say it any more succinctly? You are the uber-idiot extraordinaire!

  • Ryan Frederick

    is he still hiding like a coward?

  • Anonymous

    Vicky33 does not hide like a coward. Cowards hide like Vicky33…

  • Ryan Frederick

    well he is the master.

  • Anonymous

    Indded!!!

  • http://www.google.com Doodaddio

    Victor, I don’t know why you care who is in the Republican party, we all know you are a RINO and voted for Obama.

    Why would anyone take your recommendation of who to vote for? I Benny Hill summed it up best when they said, “Vicky33, that’s why you are an idiot!”.

    Benny is 100% on target.

    It is interesting to note that you remain lost in the past in an attempt to keep people here from finding out what a fool you really are. It’s not going to work, but you keep on time traveling, I will find you and you won’t be able to hide for long.

    Allow me to take this opportunity to let the folks here in the past get a full understanding of just how nuts you really are.

    Here’s a few tidbits from the mind of Victor Tiffany, a bald headed old man with a narcissistic personality disorder and megalomaniac fantasies:

    “If you were an actual person and I had the
    resources, I could and would sue your sleazy and worthless ass for libel.”

    “…like every chimp on the planet, you pull feces
    from your ass and throw it at me. You are on a very low branch on the tree of
    evolution. F$%king pond scum ranks higher than you.”

    “You f$%king coward! Tell the world what your
    name is, so that henceforth we can all know who the scumbag liar is on the road
    to hell.”
    “You are a much bigger dirtbag than Beck ever
    dreamed of being. I’d love to meet with you sometime; when you lie about my
    marriage, I get so furious that I’d happily rip your face off and shove it up
    your ass.”

    “Come by my office; you can have a very brief chat with my lawyers:
    Smith and Wesson.
    Tip: call the county morgue first for a pick up.”

    “I’ll cut your face off and shove it up
    your ass.”

    Yes, folks these are the immortal words of an intellectual giant the likes of which the world has seldom been gifted to be host to.

    I know most of this reads like the words of an insane person who is violent and out of control, but that in essence is the mind of Victor Tiffany.

    He’s a narcissist, he’s a RINO, He’s a megalomaniac, He’s a Glenn Beck hater, He’s an Occupy Ithaca freak, He’s a threatening and vile human being with nothing but contempt for anyone who isn’t him. Basically he is a hair’s breadth away from becoming a psychopath.

  • http://www.google.com Doodaddio

    Victor, I don’t know why you care who is in the Republican party, we all know you are a RINO and voted for Obama.

    Why would anyone take your recommendation of who to vote for? I Benny
    Hill summed it up best when they said, “Vicky33, that’s why you are an
    idiot!”.

    Benny is 100% on target.

    It is interesting to note that you remain lost in the past in an attempt
    to keep people here from finding out what a fool you really are. It’s
    not going to work, but you keep on time traveling, I will find you and
    you won’t be able to hide for long.

    Allow me to take this opportunity to let the folks here in the past get a full understanding of just how nuts you really are.

    Here’s a few tidbits from the mind of Victor Tiffany, a bald headed old
    man with a narcissistic personality disorder and megalomaniac fantasies:

    “If you were an actual person and I had the
    resources, I could and would sue your sleazy and worthless ass for libel.”

    “…like every chimp on the planet, you pull feces
    from your ass and throw it at me. You are on a very low branch on the tree of
    evolution. F$%king pond scum ranks higher than you.”

    “You f$%king coward! Tell the world what your
    name is, so that henceforth we can all know who the scumbag liar is on the road
    to hell.”

    “You are a much bigger dirtbag than Beck ever
    dreamed of being. I’d love to meet with you sometime; when you lie about my
    marriage, I get so furious that I’d happily rip your face off and shove it up
    your ass.”

    “Come by my office; you can have a very brief chat with my lawyers:
    Smith and Wesson.
    Tip: call the county morgue first for a pick up.”

    “I’ll cut your face off and shove it up
    your ass.”

    Yes, folks these are the immortal words of an intellectual giant the
    likes of which the world has seldom been gifted to be host to.

    I know most of this reads like the words of an insane person who is
    violent and out of control, but that in essence is the mind of Victor
    Tiffany.

    He’s a narcissist, he’s a RINO, He’s a megalomaniac, He’s a Glenn Beck
    hater, He’s an Occupy Ithaca freak, He’s a threatening and vile human
    being with nothing but contempt for anyone who isn’t him. Basically he
    is a hair’s breadth away from becoming a psychopath.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, take all the Chuck Norris jokes, turn them backwards and change them to Victor Tiffany jokes and they still work.

  • Anonymous

    Awesome!!!

  • barbara clemen

    Believe it or not, My voice was too soft!I shook it off,and utilized my gift,and my voice. Our delegation extended 52 minutes-it made me shaky with pride!

  • barbara clemen

    Rick Santorum,was a part of my impassioned speech. Romney has the big cities,the rural areas is Santorum.
    And we all believe Gringreg will out debate BHO.

  • Sandie

    Victor Tiffany . a perfect example of free speech, it is allowed to even those who are mentally defective and have obsessive disorders and extreme bias, NPD etc, meaning Victor Tifanny. but here we are, seeing the exercise of it by one and the same. Isn’t America great!

  • Anonymous

    You are a lying sack of trash, where have I ever advocated for fascism? I advocate for the enforcement of the rights of the people as outlined by this document called the Constitution, so keep displaying your ignorance.

    So I guess you ave never had your hands bloody from inmates fighting, or had one vomit on you because he has a history of seizures, and happens to be in one? Dirt is not the only way to get dirty. But you feel free to stay stupid Victor. What was sad and pathetic was that massive demonstration you organized outside the Ithica, NY BoA, you got a whole two people to join you, so apparently there were more working stiffs in Ithica that were busy.

  • Anonymous

    Yet he told them to establish the new church, okay you stay stupid Victor.

  • barbara clemen

    There is hope-Vickie does not represent 99% of the voting public. He’s ignorance proceeds him,and we of the 53% have his number.

    Thankfully, that represents a low percentage of the voting public-and Vickie’s IQ.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Still trying to associate me with your weaknesses, huh Benny the racist coward Hill?

    You don’t seem to realize that your inability to learn to stop doing that marks you dumber than hell.  

    You refuse, not surprisingly, to address one word of Karl Roger’s rip on Beck because you know, deep down, that Roger’s is spot on.  You claim that I’m an “idiot,” but you consistently demonstrate the IQ of a reactionary retard. (Oh wait, that’s redundant.)

    C’mon you racist coward: take on Rogers or just STFU and admit the depth of your shallowness, something you proved on my blog when you called Beck “ a wretched individual.” 

    I’m not surprised that you’re such a sleaze bag; your hero, GB, is one.  I wonder if the Nazis, who supported Goebbles, acted with such idiotic passion as you do in defense of sleazy, deceitful propaganda.  

    You don’t care that Beck is a liar just so long as he attacks the President, a man you called a “boy,” like many racists do.  Seriously, you keep projecting your moral retardation on to me.  It paints you stupid in the extreme.  Of course, Beck’s fans are not smart enough to notice. If they can’t hear Beck lie; they sure as hell must be about as stupid as you.

    You think this is a game?  Seriously?  A stupid person would claim that.  You suck at this life.

  • http://www.google.com Doodaddio

    Why would anyone take your recommendation of who to vote for? I Benny
    Hill summed it up best when they said, “Vicky33, that’s why you are an
    idiot!”. Benny is 100% on target, and you are still an idiot.

    You are an idiot for coming here
    You are an idiot for trying to derail Glenn Beck with your lies
    You are an idiot for repeating your lies after so many have proven them lies
    You are an idiot for thinking you can persuade anyone but an idiot you are right
    You are an idiot for thinking that a bald headed old man is respected at Occupy
    You are an idiot for calling out people who have crushed you before
    You are an idiot for threatening people and getting banned for it HERE
    You are an idiot for thinking the universe revolves around you
    You are an idiot for accusing people of doing to you the very thing you do to Glenn
    You are an idiot for believing in your own deranged campaign to destroy Beck

    In essence, you are an idiot on just about every level humanly possible to attain.

    I’ll take Benny’s word over yours – he’s right and you are an idiot.

    Moral retardation? You have no morals and there is nothing to retard. Once again, you are an idiot.

    You challenge people to debate things you alone believe in and are shocked that with your wit and personality, (you have neither), that no one tells you that you are right. You have the persuasive powers of a fresh cow-chip, everyone is aware of it’s presence, but no one wants to be in proximity to it. That’s because you are smelling up this place you idiot.

    You still never answered the question: Victor, when did you stop beating your wife?

    You never will, because you are an idiot. All you can do is threaten and boast and we have all seen and heard enough of your narcissistic soap opera you call a life. Get over yourself, because you are still an idiot and no one really cares about your shrill whining over being an idiot and being identified as… (wait for it…)… AN IDIOT!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Victor-Tiffany/100001320367593 Victor Tiffany

    Catholics ARE Christians! What planet are you from?

    The main truth about Glenn Beck that his supports keep missing. Or do they?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PYd0HK65pY&feature=related

  • Anonymous

    In order to play in this game you have to directly critique something.

    You are just too stupid to understand the subtle meanings of sarcasm, irony, and rhetoric…

    Why don’t you reread this and think about where you made you biggest mistake. I’ll give you a hint. You have to make a cogent point Vicky33…

    You are such an idiot!!!

  • Anonymous

    Going for an extra 52 minutes, eh? Sounds about par for me…

  • Anonymous

    I think he would as well, but I don’t think he’ll get the chance…

  • http://www.google.com Doodaddio

    If you believe this weak crap, you are more of a wacko than I previously believed. Stuff like this makes you look completely insane and ridiculous. You aren’t smart enough to understand that when a normal sane and rational thinking person sees your arguments are based on garbage like this, they see you as an idiot, and rightly so.

    Catholics are Christians is the only thing you are correct on in this entire series of posts; the rest is just pure unadulterated horse apples.

    The main truth about you is that you are truly an idiot.

    Benny Hill is correct and you are not. Ever.

  • Sandie

    Here we have the topic “Santorum to Beck: Gingrich is ‘as progressive as Ron Paul is Libertarian” and here you are in your colossal ineptitude, NPD lame thoughts totally off topic, assuming that anyone cares what you blather, typing your insanity ….”Catholics ARE Christians! What planet are you from?” followed by your typical hate-Beck rant. Man are you out of touch, out of focus, out of your mind. You are one sick loony tune. Get a life. Sorry that even OWS dumped you. Sucks to be you, eh?

  • barbara clemen

    Santorum, removing himself from contention between other candidates, distinguishes himself from the field, displaying leadership qualities.

    The American public will note this, as Gingrich / Romney continue their public displays of vindictiveness, forgetting this isn’t about them-it’s our Nation at stake.

    Thus, I believe thrusting him into the limelight.

  • barbara clemen

    I was facing the front of the room, as everyone else. Five minutes into our discussions, I reversed my chair to address the people. Twas easier.
    Providing eye contact to add emphasis to my points.

  • Sandie

    Vic, still projecting, still demonstrating that you don’t have a life outside
    of foolishly attacking Beck..  How pathetic are you?

    You start the year off the way you acted last year, pathetically projecting your stupidity onto someone far more intelligent than you’ll be.

    You need a better way to express your envy Vic, the racist coward. You just come across as pathetic.

  • Anonymous

    You reversed your chair?

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, I agree. If Santorum can gain the momentum he would be the best choice of the group.

  • barbara clemen

    I will address this issue in a PM to you. Remember the tip on the red silk blouse? Pencil skirt? Slingback high heels?

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure that being a 54 yr. old lawyer would be a real “asset” as president, seeing as it was “Lawyers” that got us in this mess in the first place!!!  The phrase “We have a responsibility to keep Americans safe”, is a clear warning bell for me that what they really mean when they say stuff like that, is Americans are just going to have to accept the fact that in order to make us “Feel” safe, they’re all going to have to give up some of their freedoms just so everyone in Washington will have a warm & fuzzy feeling whenever they pass legistlation that tramples on peoples privacy.  I’m not sure why it is so hard for others to see in the media, seems most of them are just as stupid as the majority of Americans who vote in the polls.  Blindly voting for the next best looking, most intelligent,successful person who looks more presidential during a debate, when it should be about the facts & where that person stands when it comes to morality towards other human beings.  Do they believe that people should be treated like a bunch of sheep blindly being led to slaughter, or do they believe that people should be treated as individuals who can take care of themselves without having Govt. & corporations working together to strip away every ounce of dignity that a person has left of themselves!  Stop talking & do something that gives us our freedoms back & stop making up a bunch of B.S. just to get everyone’s support!