I agree with most everything this man says with one exception.  “Religion” teaches pastors and lay people to stand up for the faith.  It offers a place of comfort to those who come to receive the gifts of the sacraments that Christ offers.  It also establishes discipline within the faith to guard against false teaching. If that cycle of passing down gets broken, it could take centuries to regain.  I believe his heart is in the right place, but the head must also be there. 

A LIVING, VIBRANT FAITH is what matters, not what church you go to, who your pastor is, or so forth; the faith and working/living/being of that faith is what matters – our personal relationship with Lord Jesus.

 Look unto the message given in the bible with the life and testimony of Jesus; he was sent here to show us how such a life is to be lived, taking what is said, and living it; in living it, we become the fulfilment of all God has promised and given unto us through and in Lord Jesus.

The best testimony we can give to the world, and to our own families, friends and those who we teach and pass the knowledge of faith onto for the next generation of Christians is our very lives that they see daily.

Remember, the walk with Jesus is one that lasts a lifetime, and wll involve discoveries and wonders great and small. It is what we do during that walk, from the start to the end, that makes the true difference in the world around us.

May the peace, blessing and hope and love of God the Father and Lord Jesus, Risen Saviour and Lord be with you all this day.

Don’t worry young man.  If you think the church is full of hypocrites, just continue to go to church, because there is always room for one more.
If you really think you are not a hypocrite, then those people at the church are in need of someone like you to serve as an example to others.  From my personal experience, most people who hate organized religion are just to worried they may be asked to give a few bucks.  Jesus did not quit going to the temple because the Pharisees were hypocrites, he went because it was his Father’s house.  The early Christians met in Christian homes, which were the first churches.

Analyzing religion through love and logic, instead of man made and manipulated scripture. It’s good to see others on the path to truly understanding the power of the soul.

Good intentions.  Maybe.  Good results: maybe not.

The heresies of Martin Luther has led to this video’s protagonist’s way of thinking and that is why there are 40,000 different Christian denominations, each with their own personal interpretation of Truth: my “truth”, your “truth”, their “truth”, anything but The Truth, The Way and The Life.  Jesus Christ (Truth) established His Church.  The failings of people entrusted to manage it does not give us any authority to disobey or dispel His Church.  Taking aim at Church buildings and juxtaposing it with “feed the poor” is an attempt to use hypocrisy to redistribute Church property. 

Personal interpretation of Truth gives rise to moral relativism, which attempts to undermine Truth, why some people imply the Ten Commandments, are, at best, the Ten Suggestions, why Truth are Lies, and Lies are Truth, not knowing where Truth originates at all.  This is why we have the multitudes crying “fairy tales”, “written by a bunch of goat herders”, “flying spaghetti monster”, etc.

It all began with a Lie: that we would be like Gods, being the arbiters of Truth and Lies — all we have to do is disobey Him.

And the judges WHU?

I’ve been trying to tell people that as well. A lot of so called “Bible Christians” can’t seem to grasp the fact that Christ actually instituted a Church. The Bible was given to us by THAT Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Excellent post. I really enjoyed it.

actuly he took alot of that out of the scriptures.

true Jesus did say we have to get togther with other believers to help eachother out with our sin so we don’t fall.

but aren’t we all hypocrites saved by grace.

The danger of Sola Scriptura: that The Holy Bible will be used as a weapon to justify sins, create an agenda, to point out (they think) inconsistencies that “prove” The Bible is false. Jesus never, physically, wrote a book. Sacred Tradition cannot be ignored.

Thank you for the kind words and you’re welcome.

We are everything He is not. Yet, through Grace and Mercy we have the opportunity to reject those things and embrace Truth.

That’s why we are now seeing homosexual “bishops” and other clergy in various protestant denominations.. I’m actually dealing with some of that thought in my family. Protestants caving in to moral and theological relativism.

If you don’t mind me asking, are you Catholic? Orthodox?

Good luck on trying to convince anyone in here though. Once you prove your point with history and scripture, they stop responding.

I’ve
noticed since I started walking with the Lord (’81) that those who
start talking and bashing the little local church (religion as they are
calling it), on the neighborhood corner, they aren’t serving the Lord in
the slightest. They’re usually down on the other corner in the direct
opposite direction. Like clouds without rain. Talk is big, walking is
bigger. — pez

It is time to bring back the Christ in Chistianity. We are not a religion but christ is the way. During the early part of the church the christian leaders called themselves the way. The way to show you salvation through Jesus. Christianity is the only believe on earth that brings God to our level. So why are we arguing this point, Paul even said why do we sit and argue over foolish things when we need to go out and bring people to the cross.

That obvious? Yes. Trying to be.

Maybe it is cliche, but you get out of something what you put into it. I may have been blessed by grace all my life, or I was properly catechized, but I understood the meaning of what was going on around me in my church. Was I bored at times, yes, but we are all called to push through this to go deeper into our faith. Religion gives us the back-bone to do this. A person with a Bible put into an isolation chamber may not come to any more spiritual enlightenment than someone put in the same situation with War and Peace.
  It it one of the most profound mysteries of faith that the Church IS the body of Christ. We ARE the religion that is rejected. ‘Saul, Saul, why do you persecute Me.’ Jefferson found his fire through the living witness that Jesus was able to demonstrate to him within His body. That he criticizes it speaks more to Jefferson’s lukewarmness, not to the right or wrong of religion. Go read the first part of the Revelation of John about the Lampstands, some who were on fire lost their zeal for God, but it was not an idictment of the Church, but of it’s members. It was not, you did not follow the rules, but you lost your fire for God. The Body of Christ had the foot fall asleep from lack of activity.
  If anyone really wants to understand what religion does for us, read about spiritual dryness and the saints. Come on anyone who’s been married for a signifcant number of years knows that some routine is there when the honeymoon juices are gone. God wants us on fire, but He also wants to test our mettle when there is but a glimmer of warmth left in the charcoal. Hello, the book of Job made it into the Bible for a reason.

I’ve been conflicted lately between both of them. But I recently found my way back to the Catholic Church.
Not that it’s a real “conversion” either way. 

However, by example Jesus had to go to the desert in an attempt to avoid temptation for 40 days and 40 nights. And even there he was tempted.

True love is tested love. An act of the will. Tested in the fire, to harden and strengthen us against the forces of Evil. The Apostles and early followers of Christ were tested: eaten alive, crucified, murdered. That love was tested and endured. The testing never stops as long as we live.

JESUS BLESSED THIS YOUNG MAN WITH A MESSAGE AND WE WOULD LEARN SOMETHING FROM HIM IF WE REMOVED THE PLANK FROM OUR EYES.

Perhaps I misunderstood. I’m Roman Catholic who seeks orthodoxy within Roman Catholicism. I’m not seeking Russian or Greek Orthodox, for example.

We hope that this young man is not the plank. He seems sincere.

The young man says it well.

not realy mathew 4:1 says then Jesus was led by the spirit into the desert to be tempted by the devil. he was born sinless so he could not be tempted to begin with. yes the devil tried to but failed. by the way did you read the temptations that he went though very interesting attack. he is the son of God. prefect being. when i made this statement about needing a church like place to keep you from sin i talk from exprence. my church helped me alot to make head way in being closer to what Jesus was. am i prefect no i don’t think so. church is like an AA meeting but for sinners. that what church is all about to help us to be more like Jesus.

i see what you guys are talking about.

LOL! That’s funny. I was Orthodox, and I’m now seeking orthodoxy within Roman Catholicism. You didn’t misunderstand. I worded it funny.

The most entertaining part of this story was the hysterical fact that gbtv is the only source for objective reporting.  What a crock!!!

For today, and every day you post here, I will post your lies on every comment you make on this site….

Why don’t you just go away you liar and Phony Soldier. Everyone would understand that move on your part. Your hate and ignorance is not winning any converts here. You’re the butt of jokes and ridicule.

Please see a professional about your fixation on little children strtlk/mtclayboy.

You’re a lying sack of crap. You denied serving on a submarine, and knowing what SSBN was. I posted your words verbatim.

You’re a Wikipedia sailor and a lying puke.

Here’s your “one on one” you little puke of a man.

1. As mtclayboy you claimed that you served on a BOOMER. As strtlk you claimed not to know what a Boomer or a SSBN was “I don’t care” were your exact words. You also stated that you didn’t know where Bangor, Wa. was which is where Boomers (submarines) are fitted for duty.
Any real Submariner would know that. You didn’t!

2. You then changed your story and claimed that you were on a BOOMER. You lied.

3. As mtclayboy you claimed that you had damaged your ears while serving on a Submarine. As strtlk, you claimed that you damaged your ears while serving on a submarine.

4. As mtclayboy you claimed that you joined the Navy and served for five years on a submarine but according to the timeline you gave that was proven to be a lie. You lied.

5. As mtclayboy you said that you were a Fireman. As strtlk, you claimed you were a Fireman.

6. As mtclayboy and as strtlk, you posted the same bigotry and hate against Glenn Beck almost word for word even using the same spelling and grammatical errors and focusing on the children. I’ve posted many of them here already.

Are you catching on everyone? He’s a liar plain and simple and nothing he claims can be believed.

Folks, I have the posts of these two Phonies and have posted just a couple to prove he is a liar and just makes up stories about his Military Service. His latest story is right out of Wikipedia. His classified VMS crap is also right out of Wikipedia and US NAVY.mil. I’m a member there.

He wants to take me on “one on one” when he’s already proven in his own words that he’s a liar and a fake.

Flag the idiot so he can come back as another loser like his other fake ID “Vinny” where hes a 10 year Army Sargent on another classified secret mission that he can’t talk about.

There you go loser, “one on one” only I backed up my posts with facts and your own words as proof. Why don’t you have the balls to admit to your lies, tuck your head up your A$$, take your bigotry and hate and Phony Soldier ID and leave us honest people alone?

Once again, Here you are caught in your lies. These are your words verbatim:

strtlk said: on Hollywood elites want to be taxed more 09/24/11 07:51 PM

“1. No idea where Bangor, WA is. I thought Bangor was in Maine!
2. What the heck is a “Boomer” or SSBN? You know what…I don’t care!
3. Reminding people that glenn was a dead beat dad is a factual statement about him, not his innocent children. Nice try though slime ball.
3. Either talk about something relevant and stop this, you are jason bourne crap!”

Caught in your lies strtlk.

Thanks for proving me correct.

Folks, strtlk/mtclayboy has been caught in his lies, He’s a lying sack of crap.

LMAO!! Come on man!!! 

Sumthin’ wrong? Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

If you understand what we’re talking about, come on in! Talk to a priest . There pretty cool to chat with.

Remind me not to lie to you. lol!

You have to keep notes of your lies. He was too stupid to do that. Ha Ha Ha Ha Neither was Vinny.

would if knew one. that and i like my church.

Most bible believing Christians are probably religionless Christians. Not to be so would be a rejection of the first commandment. Most religions, like all people, have some good along with some bad. Those Christians dedicated to Truth and reality at all costs try to take from religion(s) the good and leave the bad. They know how to “prove all things and hold fast to what is true and good”. They condemn the bad that goes on in the churches while not at war with religion(s) They grieve how dim the Light of the Church has become due to the lukewarmness of professing Christian leaders and believers and the collapse of families, marriage, morals and virtue in America.

Religionless Christians try to be like the believers in the Church of Philadelphia, not like the Church of Laodicean. Truth choice has been God’s gift from the beginning. Truth choices still remain. 

None of us have any business judging this man. We will all eventually have our day of judgement. Your belief in grace should be formed by you alone. If you have a core stick to it. If you are still looking for it maybe Religion can help you figure it out. We don’t have the answers that’s partly why we are all here.

Not if you believe Christian scripture.  We DO have the answers.

that would be a good idea. LOL!

Everyone lies, it’s the Lies about their Military Service that I care about but I do remember conversations with people. LOL

Yea. I don’t know why people do that. I was in the army , but I didn’t see any combat. There’s no need to BS about it. I guess there so insecure about there own lives they need to pack it full of action to make themselves feel like they’re not losers. It’s not cool.

I’d recommend talking to everyone actually. There was a monastery I used to go to in D.C. The friars there were awesome to talk to. I speak with a Presbyterian guy every once in a while. I don’t agree with his theology, but he does give insight one some things. I truly believe we can learn SOMETHING from everybody. No matter what there place is.

The young man  has a viable point.  Jesus did not establish a “religion,”  He established disciples who would in turn establish other disciples and that was to continue until He returns.  As you go, Jesus said, “Make disciples of all men, and I will be with you to the end of the age.”  God help us to truly love God with all our being and love others in the same manner.

They do it because they are Liberals and they are told that it will give them credibility on the Net.

The people who do that (Liberal Progressives) don’t really care about our military, they never have. I appreciate every Man and Women who served in the Service in any capacity, combat or not.

I’ve spent hours in Airports welcoming our military and buying lunch, coffee, drinks or whatever, while they are in transit.

I was scorned and chastised by the left so many times in my Military career and I’ll be damned if I’ll let that ever happen to today’s Men and Women who serve.

I thank you for your service Brother. I really mean that.

26 If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless. 27 Pure and undefiled religion in the sight of our God and Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself unstained by the world.
James 1:26-27 (NASB)

Jesus gave us his Church. Why would we not follow it?

Thanks. And thank you back.

I don’t know if I’d go back in now, even if they asked me. Unless we were attacked on our soil. I just don’t trust the government anymore. I think politics takes precedence over the lives of our troops now.

I didn’t really like it anyway. My recruiter lied (as usual) and it wasn’t what I expected. I kind of felt like a slave/prisoner. To each their own I guess. Some folks love it.

We all felt that way in the beginning. That’s normal. You did what you did and that’s OK with me.

This young man doesn’t seem to need my help in his defense but I didn’t hear him say that the church was bad or needed to be disolved. I did hear a young man that understands that the church is not made up of buildings but is made up of a body of true believers in Christ whose purpose is to minister to people like Jesus did when he was here on earth. The Church’s true purpose is to be Christ-like and live out grace and compassion for others as Christ did. God bless you all.

I think that is exactly what I said by using the warmth/charcoal imagery. Now, where does the will come from? If an athlete wants to be an Olympic sprinter but one day they do sprinting, the next hurdles, the next shot-put, the next swimming, the next equestrian, and so on, will they be an Olympic sprinter. No, because there is nothing focusing them on sprinting. Religion isn’t the rules of don’t do this, don’t say that, it’s the lens that helps us focus our attention onto God. How absolutely strict are the rules that an Olympic athlete sets for themselves, but then how great are the joys when they bear fruit? How great do they raise the people around them? Now multiply that by grace and the will of God. How does God bend your will to His? How does he put you in the fire, but more importantly how does he pull you out?
  The Apostles and Martyrs are part of a tradition of a religion called Christianity. Belief alone will not give you the witnesses. You must have the skin around the body that defines it, gives it substance.
  I do not criticize faith vs. religion I say you cannot have one without the other. I say that people practicing their faith through religion is the witness that brings people to faith. Religion is the skin around the Body of Christ that defines it, that allows us to call ourselves Christians and to proclaim the Good News to the world. We must have a tradition to hand to someone, otherwise the witness of faith is an empty vessel.
  The take away question in this whole debate, what does it mean to believe in Jesus, and then ask yourself, what does He mean when He asks you to believe in Him? Jesus is a historical fact, where does faith and tradition take you from there?

Yeah. I’m still pissed. I was supposed to go to the 82nd.
Lying bastards.

I totally get what he is saying and am proud of him for being so bold.  ”the wheat and the tares”…the Lord stated that he would let them grow together until the end…ripping out the tares
would cause irreparable damage to the body. On that day many will say “Lord, Lord” but he will say “I never knew you”. We should each “work out our own salvation” …with “fear and trembling” and make sure we are trusting in the finished work of Christ and not our good works.

We all have
differences yet forget what matters none are perfect if we were our names would
be different and we would not be here! “Let he who hath not sinned throw the
first stone”

it would not hurt to do just that. great way to learn.

And a lot of “Bible Christians” also can’t seem to get the fact that His Name was Ya’shua, He was the Messiah, the Christ, the Holy Annointed One of the Father – the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob didn’t tell Mariam to name her son “Jesus Christ”, He said name him “Yahushua” which means Yahu is salvation, God is salvation, Ya’shua for short.  To some it is all the same, but the Almighty said that that shall be the name of His Son for a reason

that is just scary thought. we did not desive what he did for us but he did it anyways why to save us from us. where would we be if he did not go to the cross.

This is an awesome video. This is what I believe to be the way of Jesus, to strive to be completely dependent upon what he has done for us through his death,burial and ressurrection.
I hate religion and tradition, I don’t care what denomination you go to, if you are placing ceremonies and traditions in front of Christ Jesus then it is only a game to make you feel better about yourself.
To some other the comments poster here: Jesus did come to create a new church, that being our bodies. When we accept Christ into our hearts and believe in what he did for us, our bodies become the church/temple of Christ. The church is not a building. As a christian we all still suffer with sin, though we are forgiven. We are to grow in the lord by reading His word and doing our best to obey Him, so that He can use us for His greater purpose.                                   We are all hipocrites, that is why Jesus had to do what He did on the cross, because humans are not able to be perfect. Otherwise, His sacrifice was for nothing.

Thank you for your refreshing view. I grew up in church since birth, but religion kept me out of the church for the next 15 years. Then I read the Bible and fell in love with Jesus, Who was so radically different than what I saw in church. Don’t get me wrong, I love my church. I love being part of the body of Christ. I hate religion! I love Jesus and the Word of God. I say, if anyone hates religion, read the Bible and fall in love with Jesus

I agree with his overarching point that there are problems within Christianity.  But Jesus is not greater than religion.  He came to establish His religion, the Catholic Church, which is the only One, True, Catholic, and Apostolic Church in the world.  It is not “religion” as an institution that is the problem; it is the imperfect people who make up the religious institutions and do or don’t practice their religion correctly.

The young man told the TRUTH and that always brings out satan’s minions of organized religion.

Hello minion! JESUS means LIFE, religion means death. Ask the Pharisees about 70ad. You roman catholics and constantine conjured up the christian religion in 325ad and JESUS or CHRISTIANITY has no part in you and your religion. AMEN!

HELLO, what planet are you from. roman catholic priests have been raping childrens minds and bodies for centuries. Where  do you get your information.

Whether or not he’s right, he’s expressing what a lot of people are thinking. Studies show that Americans aren’t actually getting less spiritual (their rates of things like prayer have stayed mostly the same) so much as they’re less keen on organized religion.

I think that “one true, catholic, and apostolic” church thing, or any church claiming to have sole authority, that is part of the problem (note: i’m not trying to attack catholics, heck I visit a catholic church with a friend of mine). Catholic youth (or any denomination but since you and I are attending catholic masses I’ll use them as an example) are growing up with friends who Lutheran, or Baptist, or Evangelical, or LDS like Glenn, and many of them are deciding “you know what… I don’t think it’s such a big deal that people are of other faiths”. We have an open society now where people are meeting and befriending all sorts of other people and so people are less inclined to think their friends just have it wrong. An LDS friend of mine ended up marrying a Lutheran despite her previously saying she wouldn’t marry outside the church.  I don’t think denominational differences matter to people nearly as much as they used to so people feel freer to migrate to whatever church, if any, feels comfortable to them.

Can grace rob Justice?  His grace will provide immortality for all.  Meaning through His grace, His atoning sacrifice, all will be resurrected and physical death will have no sting.  However, there is more than simply immortality after the resurrection.  

There is eternal life.  Life with God, Jesus Christ, and family, forever. Immortality and eternal life are two different things. Our works, our life choices, repentance, knowing God’s plan, and following it will determine whether we simply live forever or have eternal life in God’s presence and receive all that He has. 

Choices matter.  Simply saying “I believe” is not enough.  It’s what you DO after you say it that will be the determining factor when we are judged by Him and given our reward.  ”Faith without works is dead”.  Being a true disciple is not easy.  But it’s worth it.

Yes Ryan, from first to last.

I agree

Some people don”t understand the message yet, that confirm me that this young man is right when he said that he hate religion, but he loves Jesus. Religion blind you, and doesnt fill you with the Holly Spirit Jesus does. Its why you miss the message.

Hi is not against church, he is against religion. two different things.

Religion slave you because is impose by man, J

Martin Luther was surely not perfect, but he was right to challenge the lies of the Catholic Church.  The selling of indugences is as heretical as you can get.  When Jesus called Peter the rock, he was indicating that Peter was the first of the future believers in who Jesus said he was and is.  Paul said in 1 Corinthians 3 “What then is Apollos? What is Paul?  Servants through whom you believed, as the Lord assigned to each.  I planted, Apollos watered but God gave growth”.
Consider what Jesus saifd to the Pharisees when he said Matt 15:5…”So for the sake of your tradition you have made void the word of God.” That is exactly what happend when you rely on men’s traditions rather than Godf’s word.  You also left out ‘sola scriptura, sola gratia, sola fide”  We must use scripture alone for it is the “INSPIRED” word of God.  Man does not interpret scripture, but scripture interprets itself.    We use what is clear to explain what is not,knowing that some things are not meant to be known now and some things not to be understood but yet believed.
If the Catholic church had followed scripture there would have been no mockery of the practice of selling indugences by the term “When a coin in the coffers ring, a soul from purgatory springs”.  Of course even a hundred years before that, the Church was burning people at the stake for following the truth.  Johnm Huss about a hundred years before told the priests that were burning him that 100 years would see one whom they could not silence.  About 100 years later martin Luther appeared.

Bored by Religion? Try a relationship with Jesus.

That’s pretty much Bethke’s video in a mustard seed.

Scripture interprets itself.   It does not contradict.  The Bible is truth.  The Bible is shallow enough that an innocent child can walk through it and deep enough to drown the most brilliantly arrogant scholar.
Tradition is of men, which always leads to error.

All scripture is God inspired.

We are to build up one another in the faith.  A Lone Ranger Christian can be easy prey for the wicked one.
Look up the story of ”The quiet Sermon”  it has to do with a pastor’s visit to a person not attending services.  The fireplace setting is a good analogy

I guess for the sake of making sure I understood, I would have to know your definition of religion.  Not everyone’s definition is the same.

There is a difference between men’s traditions and God’s.  

We have all the answers we “NEED” not want.  Those we have not been given must be accepted in faith as a little child.

I’ve never seen gbtv and I don’t need it. 

He is determined, I’ll give him that.  We could use him overseeing the govt.

Could you please oversee the govt.?  You have such determination.  Keep up the good work 

Religion is a set of doctrine that all who belong to that group share the common belief.  It’s very difficult to seperate the two.

We are to have a communion of fellow believers being of one accord.  If you are against that, I feel sorry for you.  You are easy prey for the wicked one.

What is your definition of religion?

That is not true.  Paul said What is Apollos and what is Pau? Mere men only.  John 3:16 says For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have eternal life.  There is no mention about having to be a Catholic.  If you disagree then you are saying that all non catholics go to hell.  The scripture does  not say that.

EXACTLY YOU ARE RIGHT, RELIGION  IS  A GROUP OF PERSON, THAT SHARE THE SAME BELIEF, ITS WHY ITS SO MANY DENOMINATION WITH DIFERENTS RULES SET BY MAN,THAT DOESNT AGREE WITH EACH OTHER.  BUT FOR THE GRACE OF GOD  BY FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST WE ARE SAVED , NOT  RELIGION

Everyone has a right to their own belief. If you choose to belong to a denomination, then do so. If you don’t want to then don’t. Each of us must do 2 things on our own, Our own believing and our own dying. I am comfortable as a believer within the denomination I belong. I believe it closest of all follows the Bible. If others don’t agree, that’s their business.

Also, what is wrong with having different denominations? What is wrong with different rules made by man if and I mean “IF” they are based on the belief of what that true word says? If everyone believes his own way and not what a denomination believes, then you have only increased the number of denominations, because no two people believe exactly the same.
Some people dislike denominations simply because they don’t agree with them. But church discipline is discussed in the Bible a great deal, I don’t think you should discard it.

Let’s try this. You are obviously getting your facts from anti-Catholic propaganda, which is nothing new to the Church, but here’s a spin you probably haven’t run into before. Of course this scandal had to be broken from within the Catholic Church. God so loved the world that He did not spare His only Son the humiliation of death on the cross for our Salvation. Once again He did not spare the Body of Christ, the Church (that’s straight from the Bible), the humiliation of this sin, so that He could demonstrate the depravity and filth of society. It HAD to begin with the household of God, or the warning would be completely lost. However, true to form, we have ignored the warning and continue to pelt stones at the bruised and bloodied Body of Christ. We should be shocked and horrified and asking that if this can happen there, what about in our schools, what about in OUR churches, but no everyone has too much fun kicking and laughing, and drawing blood. When was the last time you truly looked at a crucifix and asked yourself, why DID it start in the Catholic Church? Why not the Methodists or the Baptists?
  Now here’s a fun Google project. Go and Google how many sexual harrasment cases people estimate occur in the New York City school system in one year. Try Los Angeles next, or Chicago. Last time I looked at the stat 1 in 4 girls will be molested before they graduate school and 1 in 8 boys will be. That was the last time I even looked it up.
  God is giving us a chance to wash ourselves in the Blood of Christ once again, but go ahead and throw stones, kick His body, spit in His hair, most of all don’t heed the warning. Look to yourself first.
  Why golly day, isn’t that that whole you who is without sin, casting stones thing. Yes, I believe it is.

LOTS OF TRUTH HERE.

Hey Ryan. I’m going to let you in on a little secret. The only part of the bible I’ve personally ever read was Genesis and some of Revelations. Any thing else I learned was forced on me in catechism. So I have no clue weather his thoughts matched those of scripture, yet so much of what he said I have been pondering deeply for years. What I’m trying to say, is through personal thought and analysis we may be able to discover real meaning in our beliefs, not just words but actual understanding through experience. This may exist with in all who are willing to look into our own light, just as Jesus did before Christianity. To simplify, if all law was gone and all that was written ceased to exist, would love cease to exist? Would we be able to define good from evil with out the direction of these man made creations? I personally think we would begin again in the same way. I would love to understand the pure form of it all, unclouded, without all the man made interference. Good night!

tony—and ”king”—  I hear you fellows and know of what you are speaking.  You both

know, I am sure, it’s pretty tough to be a ”true and faithful” Christian in the secular world

of today.  Oy! : )   The temptations!   But with the help of God’s grace—

I agree 100% with Jefferson Bethke! He’s not afraid to say what Most are feeling and thinking…God Bless Him!

Religion is just the expression of your beliefs. There is nothing wrong with religion.
Church and religion go hand in hand.
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World English Dictionary

religion  (rɪˈlɪdʒən)
 
— n
1. belief in, worship of, or obedience to a supernatural power or powers considered to be divine or to have control of human destiny
2. any formal or institutionalized expression of such belief: the Christian religion
3. the attitude and feeling of one who believes in a transcendent controlling power or powers
4. chiefly RC Church  the way of life determined by the vows of poverty, chastity, and obedience entered upon by monks, friars, and nuns: to enter religion
5. something of overwhelming importance to a person: football is his religion
6. archaic
 a. the practice of sacred ritual observances
 b. sacred rites and ceremonies
 
[C12: via Old French from Latin religiō  fear of the supernatural, piety, probably from religāre  to tie up, from re-  + ligāre  to bind]  

Christ instituted a Church. He says so himself. It was built on Peter. He says so himself. We must be a part of his Church.

The scriptures point us to the Church. The two go together.

The selling of indulgences was done by certain people in the Church. It was never taught. Look at history and Catholic doctrine. Don’t get it from another source.

Why don’t you check your numbers Mr. Pedophilia expert. Atheists, protestants, and whoever can be evi and molest children. What’s your point?

Excellent!! Thank you for speaking truth in such a transparent and contempory way. A heart transformed ONLY by the Hand of Christ IS what is a follower of Christ (Christian). May your LOVE for our Lord and Saviour fuel you to run to your ‘church’ (-forsake not the gathering of yourselves together . . . ‘ — for accountability, strength, ministry, growth . . . .  May God bless you and COMPLETE the GOOD work He has begun in you!

   There is only one truth to follow. How can you believe in all
these multiple denominations that are off the mark! When
Jesus ask you did you follow his instructions of righteousness
what will you tell him? The Bible is our instruction book that
gives you the guiding light to everlasting existence. There is
plenty of warning that anyone could fail if they knew not what
God’s purpose was. I can say it is not Human Salvation!
But God’s Manifestation of God’s Nature. God ask us to come
to Him! Not God come to realize and forgive our evil Nature.
Do you reject this common sense obedience.  

good point. i have not forgoten all of that Jesus will not let me lets leave it at that.

i have to my grandfather did stop going to church but he never stop talking to other believers. i feel it is inportent to go to church to have that help right their has help me though alot.

   Actually this statement means Jesus is the rock and cornerstone in
the foundation of the righteousness of God’s truth. And that peter should follow all the rock of Jesus examples.

i read most of the new testament and tust me alot of what he says about can be found their. even a part of what you said right here can be backed up. i mean God give us a conscience to begin with for us to no from right and wrong.

The Church’s foundation is built upon Christ not Peter. Peter(the Rock) was the first stone after Christ the cornerstone was laid, all other followers of the future would be future Rocks. It is this kind of human arrogance that leads a church to the abuses we see in it today. A feeling of infallibility that allows the child abuse. But since you have indulgences, I guess you think you can buy your way out of hell for that too.

Ahhhhhh! The crooked straight talker! the oxymoron of truth. The wasted words of
all time that no one understands. Why? Common sense is not in him and shows the
inadequacy that college education has become. This one must be ignored until it
changes it’s ways, and develops a common sense that true life in reality is based on.
That truly is the Creator of all things Yahweh God. He will show His Creation truth.

Words of mens wisdom in order to excuse sin.  Faith without works is dead.  Must have fruit of repentance.  sir have you stopped watching porn?  Grace: while we WERE sinners Christ died for us.  We must be converted, Born again.  Then we have an advocate JESUS Christ the righteous to just ask for forgiveness when we sin.  No person is without sin.  But you must be born again not just a follower, become a son.  Acts 2:38

And I love the different denominations that allow people of like mind to gather. If you don’t like it, don’t go, but don’t tell the rest of us we can’t. We know Satan’s attack on the church from the bible. Satan wants us away from each other because he knows we are easier prey, when God’s people are not encouraging, building up and correcting the wrongs of each other. Religion is a system of belief and you have your own belief, so you have your own religion don’t you?

Keep going Ryan. You think that you are being helped, and you are. But you may not know it, you are also helping them. It is like a body, when one member suffers, the whole body suffers. Some of us are lips that speak the truth. Some of us are hands that serve others. Some of us are brains that teach others. Some of us are ears that listen to the problems of others etc. etc. That is why the body of believers is stronger than the “LONE RANGER” Christian.

Don’t you see how the seperation of the denominations has lead to more peace. Forcing people together who do not see eye to eye, leads to conflict. When Christ comes, he will unite his church and we will no longer have the untruths of Satan clouding our vision. God grants us free will, why can’t you?

The scriptures point us to Christ and we as believers are the body, butChrist is theHead, Not the Roman Catholic Church. If it were then why would Christ himself call Saul to be Paul? Peter had his part to play as did all the other apostles. Paul understood that ZPeter and Paul were mere men, why can’t you?

I hear your accusations but where is your solution? What is the answer?  Who and what is the one true church; His Church?  I seriously want to know.

You cannot be serious. It was not only taught but practiced with the full knowledge of the Pope.

I do believe the different denominations had a part in spreading religious values in
the world But the truth became a Mankind interpretation of their imaginations and
became the false belief that mankind Corrupted God’s Word for their own gain for
power, money, and ego! People began believing this and then began the norm of
religious belief. Paul warned his believers numerous scripture one is Romans 1 and 2
and many more places! James is also good scripture on deception. We truly have to be
aware of wolves creeping in to convince even the very elect! But there has been so
much deception from century one it will be a very difficult to change this deceit back
to God’s true plan and purpose of our Beings.

The true church are those who have been born again of the water and the spirit.  Just like the apostle Peter preached the first message to sinners as what the gospel to be born again is.  Go back to the beginning and follow the apostles message.  Luke 24:45 Jesus opened the apostles understanding.  So follow the apostles they are the only ones who had their understanding opened by Jesus Christ himself in the flesh. Not me, not you, not the pope, or any religious leader or organization.  Follow the apostles and you are following the message of Jesus Christ. Jesus said in John ” I pray not  for these only (the apostles) but for them which believe on me through their word.”  Acts 2 was the first time the christian born again message was preached and it has not changed.  I sincerely hope this helps.  Now go and search the scriptures and knock and seek.  And you will find.

I see:
So the moment after he was baptized, then the God led him into the desert to be tested. Why? The devil wanted to prove to God that he was not perfect?

I don’t know what the scripture says on this exactly, but I thouoght the church was the body, the body being the temple. Church is inside your heart/soul. Is that not the case? Is not Preaching what God said is “foolishness to save those that would not believe?”

I’m not against Church, but I guess I do not see it as a Godly law or something that can keep you from sin. I thought the point was that we all come short of the glory anyway –

well, i don’t want other people to be disenfranchised from going to church.

Church strengthens your family, gives you a bigger family, and a village to help raise you in your spiritual journey.

Can do.

The true message is there for all to see. We often get hung up on things that are not meant to be revealed yet. Some things we cannot begin to understand but must accept by faith. The gospel of salvation through Christ alone is shallow enough for an innocent child to safely wade through and deep enough to drown the most corrupt scholar.

There are only two things that matter.
Believe in Jesus Christ
Believe in His Word

Wherever you choose to practice, and share with the family of believers, is up to the individual.  As long as we keep God in our minds and actions, ask for His forgiveness and guidance, we can hope for a day when we can be with Him in perpetuity.

landolaahs the reasons why I write this is not to compete with your beliefs, and I’m not the best
spokesman for the instruction of God’s plan and purpose. The Truth gets tossed around so much these days that you wonder if it is worth the efforts to try and expose man for what they
believe. So I will send you to a place to be able to search the scriptures. They offer free scriptural study that is as close to first century Apostolic teaching that I believe is the closest
to Pauls and the Apostles teaching anywhere! We are a truth searching organization since the
early 1840s and have approximately 50,000 plus around the world and have taken on the name
in Col. 1: 2 Brethren in Christ. In Greek It is Christadelphian. We believe that we teach the closest truth to Jesus Christ and his Apostles about God our Father Creator that is possible
for our times and we admit to our mistakes of our human frailty that God’s true plan and
purpose is to inherit his forever nature in obedience to manifest His perfect Nature in Creation.
I ask that you do the research on everything you read in scripture! Because the Bible is
our main source of all our books and research. I wish you all well and that you see an hear
these Words that I believe is the true Interpretation of God’s Truth. http://www.thisisyourbible.com
you may become one of the elect.

Come Jesus! come soon to us! In Jesus name Amen!

That’s it !  PURITY.  God / JESUS wants HIS CHURCH…”THE BODY OF CHRIST” PURIFIED !!
Church has no walls !  Religion has bars, it has shakles, it has chains.  Jesus came to make us free, what’s happening in your temple?  Get Free.  Invite Jesus in…He is ALL you will ever need.

John 3:16  ….google it.

   However God does reveal all to those that binds to His Holy Spirit in search for His
truth especially in these latter days.

   Perfect Scripture! I would like to see more on your end. Do you have a Fraternal family?

The young man did not say he quit church…he is speaking against the religious spirit.  It is a spirit of control and bondage.  Ask God to reveal it to you.  Our Father sent His only son that we would be Free….religion lays a guilt trip on you.  It makes you believe you haven’t done enough…Jesus said it is finished and meant it. 

This is not to say that Churches and Faithful leaders (followers) ….should cease to exsist.  We need to have places to fellowship and worship Our Lord.  As we are fed and filled up with Holy Spirit, we received and freely we give.  We need the love of The Father poured into us so that we can give it away.  Away to whosoever will….and they are lost in some very dark places.  They do not hear the retoric of self–proclaimed righteousness, they hear the heart of God through the word …who is Christ Jesus.  Jesus who meets them where they are and that, my dear one is what this young man is doing!  There is a mission field that offends most of the pew dwellers…those that only go on Sunday for show and are nothing like a Christian the rest of the time.  It is time for this to change…how do you suppose we (The Body Of Christ) will become
The Bride, without spot or wrinkle?  It Is Time To Purify The Church…religion does not belong there, it is like cancer, it is what divides God’s people and Satan uses it as a tool to do just that.  He must be exstracted from God’s House.  Totally radical.  Not so much…it is why Jesus had a problem with the pharsees…they were divisive.

No man knows the day of his return. Even in the latter days we will not know the day.

??What is a Fraternal  family?  My walk is with Holy Spirit…I am well fed by many a shepard serving His sheep.  Thank you for your kind words…ALL of The Glory Is His.  As the Son of God Himself dwells in us through His Holy Spirit…the words and works of God are manifest.  Thank you Jesus,  Amen. 

Guilt is the Holy Spirit convicting us of sin, driving us to repentence. If you hate being told of your sin you can over time drive out the Holy Spirit from you. Feeling good about yourself and denying your sin is unbelief.
How do we become the bride without spot? Because as Christians we are covered with Christ’s righteousness, not our own. It sounds to me that you are for anything goes or at least don’t judge other people’s behavior. I want someone to tell me if I’m doing something wrong, to not do so shows hate not love. Jesus problem with the Pharisees is they did not see their own corruption and sin and saw themselves as righteous. Remember when Jesus told the adulteress. Daughter, go and sin no more.

Respectfully.  The Holy Spirit convicts, He does not condem.  We are Children of The Most High and there is no place for guilt or hate in His Kingdom.  We become about ourselves when we just want to be right. Our charge is to take the gospel to All of The world.  Religion is more of a barrier than an avenue.  God is Love.  And I totally agree with what you say about the Pharisees…understand that corruption lives in many a church…go to God with this.  I must go now….I have sheep waiting.  God Bless you.

The church is a place where sinners go to receive the word and sacraments God offers. All are sinners who go there. It is where we go to be filled with his gifts so that we can go out into the world to live as Christians. I’m very sorry if you have never experienced that kind of church. But just because you don’t belong to one, don’t tell me what mine is like when you have never been to it.
Remember God’s messages in Revelation to the different churches? Some where bad, some good and some had things they needed to change. I applaud the young man in many ways, but he seems to have a chip on his shoulder of self righteously blaming others for not doing enough for the broken. Perhaps he puts himself up for that same scrutiny and perhaps he does not.

   Like the apostles did and came together to remember their Messiah in Breaking
bread the symbol of Christ’s body and drinking wine the symbol of Christ spilt out
blood for our redemption. They met with their disciple brothers.

I know what a church is and I know what the streets are.  I know where the lost are and I know why they aren’t in church….would you have them never come to Jesus.  I do belong to a church.  And I have attended churches where religion rules…thank God that is over.  I love my chuch, my pastors are awesome and religion does not live there. 

The young man is not speaking to or for you…he is speaking to those that the perverbial religious door has been slammed on…and if you don’t think they have a chip on their shoulders…how do you think they will hear the word if one is not sent that makes some sense to them.

Judah, ROARS!  

      ……thank you for bringing the elements to the table and lifting up the cross.

 God Bless you, I must leave and I will look you up next time I come to visit…I check in semi-regularly.  We have to keep Glenn in God’s eye.  lol.  Most enjoyable.

The same here! Praises to our teacher of perfect truth Yah ho shua Yahweh Saves!
Amen! and Amen! I don’t pretend to know it all! But I seek for the truth of our Father and Creator Yahweh God!

  Did you know Church Means Ecclesia in Greek, and it truly Means (Called out ones)  and nothing to do with buildings!

The greatest threat to Christian believers or non-believers is not religion. It is lukewarm clergy and Jesus wannabees – those whose egos and covetousness cause them to feel the need to improve on the common sense message of Jesus.  These Jesus wannabees - like Judas (a believer) or Barabbas (a non-believer) - promote themselves as possessing better knowledge with more power, love, charity, consideration and compassion. They think they own a better plan than the “personal responsibility, repentance, must be born again, keep His commandments and the personal empowerment message” of Jesus. They blame either the non-conforming Christian, business for its influence on government, the successful among the population or another real or imagined enemy for all human problems. They successfully connect with government to promote social justice and economic equality with other peoples prosperity – all while setting themselves and their friends up in high positions of applause and honor. Both government and Jesus wannabees prosper using this evil business model, but not the people Jesus came to save. 

We saw this example attempt at Calvary. History has repeated it to this very day. 

The Rock, yes, but so much more, he was also given the Keys of the Kingdom with the authority to loosen and bind — by Jesus Christ.

The human arrogance was that some thought they knew better and rejected Jesus’ actions.  The Church, as established by Jesus Christ is infallible.  People who run The Church are fallible.  Priests and Bishops are not “off the hook”.  They have Holy Orders but must struggle to live a Holy life like the rest of us, perhaps struggle even harder.

Mere men, but men with Holy Orders — entrusted to administer Christ’s Church.  Christ is center of Christ’s Church.  It is the heresies of men (both inside and outside of The Church) who failed to recognize the authority blessed upon those men.

  Thanks Moderator for taking away the words of truth that I convey because now I can see
what truth you allow! I have never preached anger or animosity yet you wont allow the real
truth that I promote to be revealed. What have I done wrong? except promote Yahweh God to the highest position of all things and you stopped this from happening! Be proud! Be Proud
Moderator! of your position of power until it falls. 

I have no solutions.  All True solutions are from God.  The solution was in the form of a man, Jesus Christ, son of the father who before His death established the Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.  Now you know.  The next step is to approve or reject God’s solution.

That makes Peter a jailer but not the dge. Are you saying there is no salvation outside of the Catholic Church? Let’s cut to the chase so I don’t have to waste time.

Why then after this did Jesus call saul to be Paul to be the one to preach to the gentiles. Paul did not answeer to Peter but to God.

The errors of men as perceived my Martin Luther gave him a calling: to assist in the repairing of earthly errors — as we are all called to do with each other  The calling was not to give rise to the belief that one could fracture Christ’s infallible Church.

Written by the hands of men guided by the Holy Spirit.

I would not dare to presume the capacity of God’s Mercy or the outcome of His Judgement.  Christ established His Church to authoritatively convey the Good News and we try to convey His Truth as accurately as we can.  One can choose through use of Free Will to accept or reject Christ’s established Church.

I was just curious that Jesus mentions seven churches in the book of Revelation and I don’t recall a mention of the church of Rome.

Great  video ,More peop[e need to see it,The only people that dont like it or those hypocrites

Homosexualism is a system of belief and you have your own belief, so you have your own Homosexualism don’t you? Totally illogical, just like your statement.

Your belief system is your religion.

   And that belief system can teach you false doctrine that leads all to failure!
How can they know when they are given false faith and false hopes?!

Come on, through your logic, Christians share the same belief as Aztecs!? They’re both religion! (illogical) IF GROUPS DON’T AGREE, THEN THEY DON’T SHARE THE SAME BELIEF! Religion is simply “belief without proof”, wither it’s belief in God or Coatilcue.

Whatever that means. I guess everyone can believe what they wish and then you have to answer for it. Not all religions are equal. I believe in the bible and I belong to a specific denomination, so I make a choice I must stand by. So what is your point? That you have the right answers and others don’t? Well I believe that my belief system is the right one. If you don’t agree, that’s fine, believe what you will.

So your acceptance even if you are shown it may be wrong in God’s eyes you will stick to it? Why? Does that mean you have sticttoitofness and God should honor
you! for it? Should you honor God! or your should God Honor your sticktoitofness.

Ahh! So, you’re saying religion IS the problem. Because, what you believe is religion. And, what some believe is flawed. Therefor, religion is flawed.

This question is for Snowleopard:  I hope you re-visit topics.

I’ve been meaning to ask you,  have you ever read “When the Church Was a Family”, by Joseph Hellerman?  If so, what are your thoughts on the book?  

Let see if I can answer these for you. I have known idea why God would do that. I can guess that the devil asked God to do it in the hopes that he could stop his work. Most likely Satan did not know who Jesus was and what he was doing their on earth. Like Satan did with Job. That also explains why Judas Iscariot was taken over by Satan to kill Jesus. If he would have known that Jesus was meant to die so he can beat death itself.

Now second you are mixing two passages here. The first one is where it talks about the body of Christ. Romans 12:4-6 just as each of us has one body with many members and these members don’t all have the same function so in Christ we are many form one body, and each member belongs to all others. We have deferent gifts, according to the grace given us. If a man gifts is prophesying, let him use it in proportion to his faith. Now these passages are talking about the church and the people in it and how we have deferent abilities. Now here it talks about the Holy Spirit making a house in believers. 1 Corinthians 6:19 Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own. when God said “foolishness to save those that would not believe” was meant to say ok these guys will not listen to the good news so move along to some on else and don’t waste your time. I can’t remember where that was or I would get it to you in context but that is what he might be saying there.

The church is definitely not the law but God word is some churches don’t preach God word and some do but you’re right in saying that the church can’t keep you from sin. Only the Holy Spirit can do that and only if you listen to him.

You are also right about the church in how it strengthens your family, gives you a bigger family and a village to help raise you in your spiritual journey and also to spread his word well I hope this has been a help to you.

There is a need for churches b/c there is a human need to fellowship with fellow Christians (Corporate Worship).  Unfortunately, there is no such thing as a “perfect church” because all churches are filled with imperfect people.  Each and every church has its weaknesses and strengths, take a look at Revelation and you can see what I’m talking about.  However, the solution to the problem of “bad religion” isn’t to stop going to church altogether, but become more involved and change the attitudes by your own example.  Some churches fail at accepting repentant sinners into their midst, while other churches fail at expelling those who refuse to repent.  There are extremes on either side.  Don’t DO church, but BE the church!

I found Jefferson Bethke’s poetry/video to have many contradictions in it.  I’m happy that he loves and serves Jesus, but to imply that organized religion is untruthful or false shows his blatant judgment that ALL organized religion to be false.  He refers to those sitting in the pews on Sunday to be hypocrites because they’re sinners, then says he does wrong also, but forgiven.   Even when Jesus found many Jews to be hypocritical in the faith, he still continued to observe the Jewish Law and to go to temple, and participate in the rituals of the Jewish religion.  So did his apostles.  Services were held in homes in the early churches, because there weren’t any churches built yet.  Everyone of us is hyprocritical at times.  Everyone knows our Lord on different levels.  Don’t blame the churches for people’s ignorance, blame the person.

It means the Church is built on the “rock” of faith, and Peter as its leader. You have no authority to interpret scripture any way you wish.

It’s very sad how protestants will accept the Bible wholeheartedly, but will reject the Church who gave it to them.

It means the Church is built on the “rock” of faith, and Peter as its
leader. You have no authority to interpret scripture any way you wish.

It’s very sad how protestants will accept the Bible wholeheartedly, but will reject the Church who gave it to them.

You are COMPLETELY ignorant on what an indulgence is and how one is earned. They have NOTHING to do with getting out of Hell. Learn something before you post idiot.

One
never could “buy” indulgences. The financial scandal surrounding
indulgences, the scandal that gave Martin Luther an excuse for his
heterodoxy, involved alms—indulgences in which the giving of alms to
some charitable fund or foundation was used as the occasion to grant the
indulgence. There was no outright selling of indulgences. The Catholic Encyclopedia states:
“[I]t is easy to see how abuses crept in. Among the good works which
might be encouraged by being made the condition of an indulgence,
almsgiving would naturally hold a conspicuous place. . . . It is well to
observe that in these purposes there is nothing essentially evil. To
give money to God or to the poor is a praiseworthy act, and, when it is
done from right motives, it will surely not go unrewarded.” 

As far as child abuse, ANY dirtbag can molest a child. Whether you’re a Catholic or protestant or whoever. If you can’t see that, you’re an idiot.

Do you have the scripture to prove this verse?! I Do But it goes back to the old covenant of Moses of which you are more than likely you are unaware of and wouldn’t believe it anyway since you believe the old
testament doesn’t count anymore. But you know Jesus always referred us back to the old testament. Hmmmm?

@thelionoftruth:disqus

I never said the OT doesn’t count anymore. Stop putting words in my mouth.

Scripture to prove what verse? I have the CHURCH to prove what I believe. What do you have?

I’ve given you scripture that even SAYS you’re not to interpret scripture personally. But you and every other protestant just brush it off.

That’s funny.

26Now an angel of the Lord spoke to Philip, saying, “Arise and go toward the south along the road which goes down from Jerusalem to Gaza.” This is desert. 27So he arose and went. And behold, a man of Ethiopia, a eunuch of great authority under Candace the queen of the Ethiopians, who had charge of all her treasury, and had come to Jerusalem to worship,† 28was returning. And sitting in his chariot, he was reading Isaiah the prophet. 29Then the Spirit said to Philip, “Go near and overtake this chariot.”† 30So Philip ran to him, and heard him reading the prophet Isaiah, and said, “Do you understand what you are reading?”† 31And he said, “How can I, unless someone guides me?” And he asked Philip to come up and sit with him.

Interprets itself huh?

   Remember the pharisees and sadducees asked Jesus by what authority has he to pronounce his words. My authority is long study of interpretation from the Bible scriptures with the help of Holy Spirit.
What authority reveals your answers?

Saying religion has been the cause of so many wars is like saying religion is the cause of so many sports (since so many do pray before a game, etc)  Wars are over resources, not beliefs.  It just so happens that two nations might believe two different things, or that the church (back then also the state) used their religion to gather popular support.

My views are completely in line with Catholic teaching.

Why should I believe you over a mormon or a jehova’s witness?
All protestants differ. Why should I believe the Christadelphian way of interpreting scripture?

   We went back to the original 1st century teaching before Mankind corrupted it.
We interpret Jesus and the Apostles as they first met together in their Ecclesia’s
and synagogues and their houses.

So Christs church failed until it was revived in the 19th century?

No it pretty much failed in the 3rd century AD when theologists got their corrupted
hands on religion. And has been failing since.

We are not called to do every thing that Jesus did!!  We are called to let Him live through us.   At that time Jesus did not live within us.  We are now the temple that he inhabits.  All we are saying is we are to honor and worship Him not a building or a man made institution/enterprize.. 

Then what does  it mean  when Christ says “upon this Rock I will build my Church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it?”

nothing will stop me.

That’s a good thing, also.

Jesus is the ROCK of salvation! Peter which actually means stone is the first to follow Christ example while he was yet still with them we now become the stones that
complete this foundation That Christ is also the cornerstone of. All things of God emanate from Jesus Christ.

So are you saying that the gates of hell will not prevail against ” the rock”?  Doesn’t he mean the church?

   No it does not! It means Jesus Christ is our Salvation through the obedience of His
commands and instruction of the Fathers Word. Yahweh God is our the Father of our
Creation.

Answer the question. The gates of hell will not prevail against God’s Church. Correct?

they would have to take me away kicking and screaming.

God’s Church (Called out ones) Is the Son of God Jesus Christ He is the Rock! and the
gates of hell will not prevail. Which means even the grave will not prevail! Jesus was
taken from the grave and resurrected Right? The Grave is considered Hell!

So it could have also be said this way then?

18And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on MYSELF I will build MYSELF, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against me..†

Exactly! Jesus is the Rock!

Here. I’ll post it again. Learn what indulgences are before you comment on them. Hell has nothing to do with them.

One
never could “buy” indulgences. The financial scandal surrounding
indulgences, the scandal that gave Martin Luther an excuse for his
heterodoxy, involved alms—indulgences in which the giving of alms to
some charitable fund or foundation was used as the occasion to grant the
indulgence. There was no outright selling of indulgences. The Catholic Encyclopedia states:
“[I]t is easy to see how abuses crept in. Among the good works which
might be encouraged by being made the condition of an indulgence,
almsgiving would naturally hold a conspicuous place. . . . It is well to
observe that in these purposes there is nothing essentially evil. To
give money to God or to the poor is a praiseworthy act, and, when it is
done from right motives, it will surely not go unrewarded.”

Correct, KW.

Smiles

I’m going to watch the presidents State of the Union. I’m interested what his plans are going to be this year and of course his campaign plans are sure to be interesting also.

Here’s where we are going to part ways I believe.
You reference Petros as stone. That is not correct. It is rock. That adds a bit more thought to the verse we were discussing doesn’t it?

haveing fun tonight i see.

In stongs KJV to be technical it does mean (a peice of) rock. I will admit rock is a
more closer description but does not mean he is the church. God’s church is based
on the rock like building your house upon the foundational rock, rather than sand
That would be Jesus Christ! Who would be the better foundation Jesus or Peter?

I did research it. The word means rock. Koine Greek is different than Attic Greek. In Attic there was a distinction, but that disappeared in the language by the time of Matthews gospel. If there were to be a distinction between a small stone and rock the word lithos would have been used.

Also, the word Cephas is a transliteration of the word Kepha. Which means rock. We can see that 4 times in  1Corinthians and 4 times in Galatians.

Aramaic was spoken by Jesus and many scholars believe Matthew was originally written in Aramaic. Eusebius records that the original text of Matthew was recorded in Aramaic and then translated to Greek early on.

Now since Jesus spoke aramaic,we see that the word rock means rock.

It’s different in Greek. Nouns have different gender endings. You can’t use Petra for Peter’ name because it is feminine. But you can use Petros.

Based on this I would say that Jesus is giving Peter a great blessing!!

As can be seen in Isaiah 22:22  Kings appointed a chief steward. THAT is Peter. Christ quoted almost verbatum from that verse, it’s pretty clear what he had in mind.

Thanks for making me think and research!! God bless you for that.

You have to remember That’s what the serpent said to Eve about our Creator. Misconception maybe! Lying! I don’t think I’m Lying. Since I seem to be placing Yahweh God first.

Who do you think Saul went to? Did he just go on his own? Or did he go with the Church?

Well, peace be to you brother. I’m not judging you. You clearly have a zeal for Christ. We’ll see where it leads you. But please believe me when I tell you that this is where it’s lead me. God will forgive whoever he wants. And I hope it’s ALL of us.

The blessing of God be with you also the more study will lead you to see more, keep searching I Hope the light
of God will shine on you. In Jesus name Amen!

FINALLY!!!  Someone who gets it!  All these people who have interpreted his message as “I hate the Church” are just simply not getting the point.  Thank you for your voice of reason

Its why I dont practice religious I have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ my savior. Its my point. Everybody believe in something, its a doctrine doesnt matter what it is. .

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Come on, through your logic, Christians share the same belief as Aztecs!? They’re both religion! (illogical) IF GROUPS DON’T AGREE, THEN THEY DON’T SHARE THE SAME BELIEF! Religion is simply “belief without proof”, wither it’s belief in God or Coatilcue. Link to comment

I have no problems getting along with people of any denomination, I respect everybody even if you dont believe in God its people choice, all I am saying is to have a personal relationship with Jesus, that I agree with this young man, its all.

Spirit sees / hears spirit. Like takes one to know one. We are witnesses of truth. It is the Holy Spirit that dwells in us that leads us to All Truth. Amen.

There is only one war and we invited it: Good vs. Evil / Truth vs. Lies

True Freedom has limits. You may eat of any of the trees in the Garden but one. We embraced the shackles of slavery and the pain of death by eating a Lie and disobeying God. Christ’s Church is never a shackle.

rewrite history all you wish, do you expect the catholic church to actually admit the truth? They are just like the Pharisees. They thought they were chosen by birthwright and you think that catholic makes you chosen as well. Whited on the outside and full of corruption on the inside. Perhaps the reason Revelation does not mention the church of Rome is because it is fallen by that time. Stop thinking of the Roman church as chosen for it is not.

As long as we grant each other freedom, that is all I ask.

Peter along with the other saints doubted him because of his persecution of the church of believers. I guess Peter was wrong eh?

You mean you really don’t understand what is going on there?

I am not ignorant but you are brainwashed. If your church did follow Peter, your priests would be married like Peter was. Then maybe the catholic church would not be suffering the problems it does. Going against God’s will will do that.

You have not shown it. You only show your misinterpretation of scripture.

Where did I sayI worshipped a building. Don’t put words in people mouths. Jesus did not worship the temple yet he respected it as being the house of his Father and of prayer. Just show the same respect for it that Jesus did. Our bodies are his temple even as they were in Jesus’ time. I don’t worship the sabboth but I observe and respect it. For it was made for man not man made for it.

You are quoting your own church lies. They went from town to town selling indugences not to mention enough nails from the cross to build 10 houses in Saxony. LOL Enough would from the cross also. I also forgot that you also see Gods image in pancakes and other such thing. An evil and adulteress generation seeks for a sign. But you are weak in faith and need such props to keep your faith.

Ananias was sent to Paul, why not Peter? But Paul was chosen of God to go and preach to the gentiles, Peter did not do it. God chooses us. He calls us. You don’t believe that only Catholics go to heaven do you?

   Right out of the beginning Genesis is the start of the Serpent lie and it kept growing
so bad that God started Man all over again with eight saved ones in the a Ark.
Matthew 24:38King James Version (KJV)
 38 For as in
the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking,
marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the
ark, Luke 17:27
King James Version (KJV)  27 They did
eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until
the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and DESTROYED  them all.     Do you really think The true God of Creation is going to let Evil survive in His Kingdom? The lie has spread again! But this time God is going to send His Son to sort Mankind out in the judgement and those that survive will know all of His Truth. this will come in the soon to be Millennium. Will you be prepared? The saving part of Jesus is not about your salvation Jesus was Adam renewed! He was the first of mankind to be Immortalized and now opens the doorway for mankind to follow but only if they follow Christ’s total instructions Do you really believe God and His Son will save you when you sin regularly and ask for forgiveness! Shame on you He wants you to strive not to sin by following His Laws and commands. Do you think this is too harsh! Well it becomes easier when you sincerely learn to accept willingly Yahweh God’s Truth The only one and true God!   Hallelujah Praise Jah Yahwey for ever and ever!  Amen!

Right out of the beginning Genesis is the start of the Serpent lie and it kept growing
so bad that God started Man all over again with eight saved ones in the Ark.
Matthew 24:38 King James Version (KJV)
 38 For as in
the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking,
marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the
ark, Luke 17:27
King James Version (KJV)  27 They did
eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until
the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and DESTROYED  them all.    

Do you really think The true God of Creation is going to let Evil
survive in His Kingdom? The lie has spread again! But this time God is
going to send His Son to sort Mankind out in the judgement and those
that survive will know all of His Truth. this will come in the soon to
be Millennium. Will you be prepared? The saving part of Jesus is not
about your salvation Jesus was Adam renewed! He was the first of mankind
to be Immortalized and now opens the doorway for mankind to follow but
only if they follow Christ’s total instructions Do you really believe
God and His Son will save you when you sin regularly and ask for
forgiveness! Shame! on you. He wants you to strive not to sin by
following His Laws and commands. Do you think this is too harsh! Well it
becomes easier when you sincerely learn to accept willingly Yahweh
God’s Truth The only one and true God!   Hallelujah Praise Jah Yahweh
for ever and ever!  Amen!

  Yes Absolutely Now we must overcome this deceit.

Tell me your interpretations? I’m interested!

   I speak in Yahweh God’s Name! I am an Angel of Yahweh!

   I come in the fulfillment of the seed of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, David, All the
prophets and Jesus Christ our King In the fulfillment of Yahweh God’s covenant promises!
This will be the Reality that no one faces. Prepare to see this fulfillment!

Yes. Christ’s Church is also not religion. Can you separate the two? Jesus is Not religion, He did not die so you would have a religion, He died so that you would have a direct relationship with Him, through the Holy Spirit. Religion is a middle man of sorts. Religion gets in the way mostly.

What ever you add or take away from the Word is not of God and that is mostly what religion does…not to mention how many religions there are that are dividing Christ’s Church…do you really think that is Jesus? Who divides?
Come on, this is elementary.

Who is we and what kind of study books? Can you post the book names and authors?

Well the moderator is not allowing the site But the Group Has been
in existence since the 1840s it’s founder is Dr John Thomas he wrote
many books but one revealing book is called Elpis Israel which means
The Hope of Israel you can find it on line. the site has plenty of books
that only leads to Bible scripture the site is called thisisyourbible Dot
com and offers scriptural truth you may not accept the doctrine at first
but you have to give it some reading to see if you reach our understanding. Our hope is that you have the openness to give what
we believe is God given truth.   Praise the Lord! Amen and Amen!

I am Human, I make mistakes, and I strive to to correct them. But the knowledge of Yahweh
God is with me. Yahweh directs me. He also corrects me. My responsibility is to reveal His
truth,and I believe He furnishes me His scriptural truth through His Holy Spirit Through His Son
Jesus Christ. As Christ Said These are not my words, I believe the same is given of me through
Jesus. I am not a heavenly Angel. I am a Earthly Angel that knows truth! Angel simply means
Messenger of God. And I’m Pleased to reveal to all! of God’s true Plan and purpose of what
Yahweh God has for us His Created Intelligent Beings.That is His pleasure to share His eternal Kingdom.  Doesn’t this look and sound reasonable? And you have to show that you are worthy of this gift.

Lots of good stuff in there. I have to come back to this forum from time to time. Better then arguing about Romney’s false jobs claims.

Jesus created His Church and granted authority to men entrusted to administer it.  The “War Of Interpretation” is outside Christ’s Church: People led astray by heretical teachings vainly seize their own interpretation rather than receive instruction from those Christ entrusted.

Loving Greetings in Christ Jesus, and SHALOM . . THANKS for the articles,
and well, on reading the one on Anti-Semitism, it is plain that a larger system
is at work than just a few individuals. Perhaps you remember last year a similar
article came out about  Anti-Semitism, and Al Quida . . well, like those who
write novels they are covertly the masters/engineers/manipulators of the
emotions which however innocent the readers might be, are influenced in one way
or another by the AUTHOR of the Novel . . it is an amazing and powerful way to
control the MASS PSYCHE . . the Anti-Semite or ANTI- Israelite groups have
engineered a long term process using this EXACT MEANS, and may have had these in
place for many years . . it is an insidious and wide spread infection that has
entered the reading habits and media of millions worldwide, and because it is
“BASED ON REASON intellectualized – -couched in LIES” and this, like a silent
torpedo heads straight to the emotions. [This is the same MISTAKE that came out
of EDEN when Eve disobeyed upon hearing the words of the AUTHOR of the LIE
disobeyed her CREATOR and Author of the TRUTH.] Meanwhile the enemy [skillful
and misleading writers]continue to hide their weapons behind hospital walls and
Schools, child and Adult LITERATURE based false information or fabricated
insidious history.

In the film Blade Runner a similar situation was occurring where the ROBOTS
[Nexus Generation] were having their minds implanted with memories of other
people in order to give the robots a sense of reality ie. safety. These false
memories, however on learning the truth eventually lead to instability and
hatred of the Creators and violence . . Hal in 2001 also proved to be unstable
when found on the horns of a dilemma – being forced to LIE, became unstable, and
irrational behavior followed. In the time of our Lord Jesus Christ MOB MENTALITY
was the rule for LEADERSHIP who used this tool, like the Modern NOVELIST to
circulate a LIE by the controllers or henchmen and force their own ends [see
frank Capra's film: Meet John Doe]. . . Many rebellious wicked HUMAN beings
since Eden: CAIN, NIMROD, Pharaoh, Amalekites, Hitler, Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim,
Al Quida, and the majority of False Christian RELIGIONS beginning with
CONSTANTINE, and its TRANSITIONAL likeness PAPAL ROME, control the masses [THE
RELIGION OF MILLIONS] again based on implants “FALSE MEMORIES” and TRADITION
making the BIBLE a forbidden BOOK knowing its revelations will open the eyes of
the readers [READ the LIFE of Martin Luther].

[Happily the BIBLE is being READ WORLDWIDE and many who read it may see
through the morass, will find the TRUTH, Dr. John Thomas, was just such a
person http://www.elpisisrael.com.

These wicked have studiously ignored the GOD of Noah, Abraham and Israel,
King DAVID, Daniel, and all the prophets of Israel, and Jesus Christ and the
loving admonitions of the true GOD, the GOD of Israel, and will miserably fall
taking many lives with them, as in the time of the FLOOD and the time of Sodom
and Gomorrah.

If then, we believe in a DIVINE CREATOR, and that GOD is the AUTHOR, and
WRITER of our CHARACTER, or as the Scripture plainly tells us by His Son [the
Mechiach Yahshua of Israel, /Jesus Christ] . . . The AUTHOR and FINISHER of our
FAITH. [Note- AUTHOR] Those who are confident and wise to that end, will
recognize a BENEVOLENT and WONDERFUL Creator and see through the façade and want
to be a part of HIS PLAN for this PRIVILEGED PLANET[google/see FILM Privileged
Planed DVD]. In the Book “Lost Horizon”, Shangri La was the dream of the world,
and the AUTHOR pointed out that every person on the earth desires a special
place where they can go, where peace and harmony exists. I am confident that
this world is quickly heading for that wonderful change, but with any BIRTH
process there will be TRIBULATION . . finally we remember the Masters words:

These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have
peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of GOOD CHEER;
I have overcome the world. [JOHN 16:33]

  Perhaps I may have misinterpreted you are you defending  God’s called out ones? or Peter’s called out ones?
This confusion will be solved if you told your belief to me.

I wanted to share this with you.

Welcome to Flight # 2012.
We are prepared to take off into the New Year. Please make sure your Attitude and Blessings are secured and locked in upright position.
All self destructive devices should be turned off at this time. All negativity, hurt and discouragement should be put away, Should we lose Altitude under pressure, during the flight, reach up and pull down a Prayer.
Prayers will automatically be activated by Faith.
Once your Faith is activated you can assist other passengers.
There will be NO BAGGAGE, allowed on this flight. The Captain (God) has cleared us for takeoff.
Destination GREATNESS.
Be Blessed!!!

Who said Christ’s Church is a religion?  Religion is a secular word.

Jesus, right before His death, created His Church and entrusted those Apostles, with Peter as Rock with the Keys, to administer that Church. 

A direct relationship? Great. More is required.  Christ’s Church does not “get in the way” — The Church is infallible, Jesus created it Himself!  The heresies of Martin Luther are used to create false divisions were there should be none.  Embracing the Splintering of the Fullness Of Truth is a questionable start to one’s journey, though there are mitigating circumstances.

Don’t like Division?  Get ready.  There will be division.

Elementary? Jesus does not divide?

Matthew 10:32 and following:

32 So every one who acknowledges me before men, I
also will acknowledge before my Father who is in heaven; 33 but whoever
denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in
heaven.

34 “Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth; I have
not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to set a man against his father,
and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her
mother-in-law;Christ’s Church exists, in part, as a Rock to help guide and guard those against strange teachings we were warned of which are quicksand for the soul.

All are called to God.  Some listen, some do not.

 This is a fantasy of False Christian RELIGIONS beginning with
CONSTANTINE, and its TRANSITIONAL likeness PAPAL ROME, to control the masses [THE RELIGION OF MILLIONS]

20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 

John 7:7King James Version (KJV)
 7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil. John 15:19
King James Version (KJV)  19 If ye were
of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of
the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

Christ’s Church does not “control”.  We all have Free Will choice as it was in The Beginning.  Deceived people refuse to follow His way and accept The Way He created for us.

go right ahead you might learn something from some of us here on the right. i have to admit that you the nicest Occupier that i seen here.

   The deceived are the masses from the 3rd century on they all believe what they are
told is truth then they think they see truth because they believe it’s a secret mystery
that only God could know!  So don’t try to reprove it cause God only knows.
God is actually revealing His plan and purpose when you learn how to decipher
Revelation. But you have to seek for it and believe God will reveal it to you.

Last I checked having faith does not mean you are left or right. All the Democrats I know go to church and for the most part, believe in God. Which is kind of the problem, we believe in helping the poor, helping the struggling, helping the sick, and giving without expecting back. We believe in the religious values of fairness, hard-work, and respect for all people.

I would never be so cruel as to consider you from the ‘right’, at least in this forum

OK Most that believe they are saved because they have the Holy Spirit in them are living
the deceitful fantasy that they can do anything because they don’t understand that the blood
of Jesus is a symbolic term for LIFE in Christ when we follow him! Not that he forgives us for
anything we do! We must know Jesus and Follow his ways and must show by being Doers of
the Word that we will show our worthiness in order to receive Holy Spirit in us.

i was just geussing from the link you have in your profile. and i am on the right i have no shame of it.i believe the world needs a heart transplant. the rich are not the problem but their hearts. i don’t think you can change the world by protest but by example. both sides have this problem they say they want to help but how many do? i think it says more about a people if we give are own money and time on are own free will. in other words you can’t force a horse to drink or you will drown the the horse. you must let him drink for himself.

Philadelphia Society:

No thank you.  You are unable to reject His words and then try to make them your own.

by the was i was not calling you unchristian.

by the was i was not calling you unchristian.

by the was i was not calling you unchristian.

by the was i was not calling you unchristian.

  Rejection is your defense when I am the one who sees and understands though
study seems that provides me with Holy Spirit that reveals greater things
How do you get your knowledge and understanding?

yes i know. man, people are so nice in this forum. Crazy Idea!

   Two Questions. 1 How do you believe in Jesus Christ?
2 How do you believe in God’s Word?

huh realy?

His Holy Church — through the Words of God and Jesus as written by men through the power of the Holy Spirit and the people that Jesus gave authority to teach His Holy Word and administer His Holy Church.

If one rejects the actions of the Son, one rejects the actions of the Father.

am I not my brother’s keeper? Many of the rich give away millions of there money to charity. Yes they do this individually, but yet they get a tax break to do it? Is that not his motivation, to get a lower tax rate then he normally would, thus dwarfing the contribution in the first place. And engaging in corporate socialism welfare??

Not to pick on Romney and not sure if my math or logic is correct, just a little rant to end the evening.

More importantly, why don’t we just put it out there, what a christian nation would look like. How different it would be and how these argument would be non-existent.

Okay on that note, I’ve already worked 2 jobs for 12 hrs for 30% less then I used to make, thanks to Bush who I want arrested, fined, and jailed. I still need time to get home and train at the gym with my beautiful democratic fiance.

buenos noches!

am I not my brother’s keeper? Many of the rich give away millions of there money to charity. Yes they do this individually, but yet they get a tax break to do it? Is that not his motivation, to get a lower tax rate then he normally would, thus dwarfing the contribution in the first place. And engaging in corporate socialism welfare??

Not to pick on Romney and not sure if my math or logic is correct, just a little rant to end the evening.

More importantly, why don’t we just put it out there, what a christian nation would look like. How different it would be and how these argument would be non-existent.

Okay on that note, I’ve already worked 2 jobs for 12 hrs for 30% less then I used to make, thanks to Bush who I want arrested, fined, and jailed. I still need time to get home and train at the gym with my beautiful democratic fiance.

buenos noches!

am I not my brother’s keeper? Many of the rich give away millions of there money to charity. Yes they do this individually, but yet they get a tax break to do it? Is that not his motivation, to get a lower tax rate then he normally would, thus dwarfing the contribution in the first place. And engaging in corporate socialism welfare??

Not to pick on Romney and not sure if my math or logic is correct, just a little rant to end the evening.

More importantly, why don’t we just put it out there, what a christian nation would look like. How different it would be and how these argument would be non-existent.

Okay on that note, I’ve already worked 2 jobs for 12 hrs for 30% less then I used to make, thanks to Bush who I want arrested, fined, and jailed. I still need time to get home and train at the gym with my beautiful democratic fiance.

buenos noches!

am I not my brother’s keeper? Many of the rich give away millions of there money to charity. Yes they do this individually, but yet they get a tax break to do it? Is that not his motivation, to get a lower tax rate then he normally would, thus dwarfing the contribution in the first place. And engaging in corporate socialism welfare??

Not to pick on Romney and not sure if my math or logic is correct, just a little rant to end the evening.

More importantly, why don’t we just put it out there, what a christian nation would look like. How different it would be and how these argument would be non-existent.

Okay on that note, I’ve already worked 2 jobs for 12 hrs for 30% less then I used to make, thanks to Bush who I want arrested, fined, and jailed. I still need time to get home and train at the gym with my beautiful democratic fiance.

buenos noches!

am I not my brother’s keeper? Many of the rich give away millions of there money to charity. Yes they do this individually, but yet they get a tax break to do it? Is that not his motivation, to get a lower tax rate then he normally would, thus dwarfing the contribution in the first place. And engaging in corporate socialism welfare??

Not to pick on Romney and not sure if my math or logic is correct, just a little rant to end the evening.

More importantly, why don’t we just put it out there, what a christian nation would look like. How different it would be and how these argument would be non-existent.

Okay on that note, I’ve already worked 2 jobs for 12 hrs for 30% less then I used to make, thanks to Bush who I want arrested, fined, and jailed. I still need time to get home and train at the gym with my beautiful democratic fiance.

buenos noches!

that is exactly what you are doing rejecting the actions of the Son, then you are rejecting the actions of the Father. Christ Church is God’s Church because men have
corrupted the truth for their purpose and now have everyone convinced of their Lies.
If you can’t intelligently see this. How is anyone going to learn God’s Truth?

  Tell me who wrote the Catholic encyclopedia?

Incorrect and grave error.  The Philadelphia Society is incorrect and in grave error. Christ’s Church is indefectible yet Christ entrusted it to certain defective men.  Man by his nature is corrupt — we embraced the Evil.  Every one of us.  It is a heresy to reject Christ’s indefectible Church because of the actions of man whether they be moral or immoral.

I didn’t send you any artcles. I was just checking in and noticed your posts. I don’t have time right now to go through all of this and I think maybe you may have meant to send it to someone else. Have to go now, I need a quick bite and a change of clothes, we have a quset speaker at my church and I may be needed for the projection equiptment…so, I cannot be late. Have a nice evening and Shalome.

nabe some of them you can say that about but they can’t be all like that.
you do make an interesting point on a Christian nation i have to give you that one.
it noy just Bush’s falt but all in government. infact i most likely dislike B

nabe some of them you can say that about but they can’t be all like that.
you do make an interesting point on a Christian nation i have to give you that one.
it noy just Bush’s falt but all in government. infact i most likely dislike B

   How do you know this I don’t see any form of backup! So far it’s just hearsay,
and I don’t belong to the Philadelphia Society I am a Brethren in Christ That was what
the first century disciples called themselves in Greek That’s Christadelphian.  

   How do you know this I don’t see any form of backup! So far it’s just hearsay,
and I don’t belong to the Philadelphia Society I am a Brethren in Christ That was what
the first century disciples called themselves in Greek That’s Christadelphian.  

That was just an article I passed on to you.
You know intellect is a funny human trait there are men of technology and genius’s of math and supposedly intelligent evolutionist But know one seems to grasp the intellect of God’s plan and purpose! Why do suppose that is? If everyone would follow the true instructions of His Son Jesus Christ the more you absorb the more Holy Spirit Guides you to God’s Plan and Purpose But for some reason people likes it the way they were taught and think they see! but false doctrine has been surrounding them and they feel secure not knowing it’s
flesh that makes this feel good.
I feel for humanity but they just don’t seem to get it! They were deceived to thinking that is the norm!
I pray God will help them see that it is not for their salvation that God offers them but it is for his manifestation that gives them the opportunity to exist forever in Yahweh God’s Kingdom and that His Son was the first man to have been Immortalized that allows His followers to enter the Kingdom and be Immortalized Also. The Lords Blessings be with you and Shalome also

Actually, Ryan, I’d say very little of it is actually Bush’s fault.  Bush actually managed to keep the economy going decently.  Our problems stemmed from the control the libs took in Congress in 2006.  Very little, really, has to do with Bush.  He did make some problems, to be sure, but the current state of the economy isn’t really one of them.

In the millennium Lioness, all will be taught God’s true righteous nature.
But it’s best to start learning now that will give you God’s revelation in
what to do in God’s kingdom.

In the millennium Lioness, all will be taught God’s true righteous nature.
But it’s best to start learning now that will give you God’s revelation in
what to do in God’s kingdom.

i am more upset with him taking freedom away from us more than job losses which you can like you said started in 06.

i am more upset with him taking freedom away from us more than job losses which you can like you said started in 06.

But Bush isn’t really responsible for taking freedoms away from us.  Though there are parts of the Patriot Act that do just that, other parts of it are perfectly well and good.  Bush actually managed to keep our general freedoms intact.  He certainly was no idiot liberal.  That’s for sure.  I mean, Bush, by no means, was the best President of the past century, but he certainly was better than ALL of the Democratic Presidents of the past century and several of the Republican ones, including his own father.  I definitely would put Reagan and Eisenhower well above him myself.  In my opinion, Reagan and Eisenhower were the 2 very best Presidents of the last 100 years.  I don’t see anyone competing with those 2 brilliant Presidents any time soon.

good points. whoever this CAR guy is seems to be following me on disqus.

good points. whoever this CAR guy is seems to be following me on disqus.

It wasn’t me, I didn’t say it! I Love your passion !!

I think there are 2 things I wouls say…
…the first is part of a song, maybe you heard this:

Be careful little eyes what you see,
Our Father’s up above and he is looking down in love,
so be careful little eyes what you see.

Be careful little ears what you hear,
Our Father’s up above and he is looking down in love,
so be careful little ears what you hear.

Be careful little mouth…
etc. etc.

Be careful little fingers what you type…

Then the other thing I would say to you is if anything will change it will happen when those of us who know better change the conversation by example. Do not put junk out there. Talk your future into exsistance and make it a good one. Sound good.

My advice to you is that there is much more worthy things to fill yourself up with….
….how will we be ready to fill others with better than we got if we don’t get it in us? Treat yourself better and then lavish others with the newer you!!

I looked at it. It appears dry. I don’t see a live Christ, I don’t see the Holy Spirit working through the body. I see nothing about salvation, the rebirth. I don’t mean to sound critical but it does appear to be just another religion.
You know that Jesus did not die so that you could have a religion…He died so that you could have a relationship, with God, not after you are dead….Now,
….how? through the Holy Spirit. That is the trinity. Bible says God (Father) became flesh (Son) who is our mediator through the Holy Spirit Amen. Trinity.

Ryan, no need to feel threatened by CAR there following you on DisqUS.  I’m following you, as well.  I’m following you and 12 others I like to keep track of.  Even set up a bookmark folder for those I’m “watching” lol.  Helps whentalking to those I enjoy talking to.  You happen to be one of them.  Also helps to remain a part of a conversation that hasn’t died, yet.  You can keep track of me on DisqUS if you wish.  No real harm in it.  I consider it a way to keep track of current friends and acquaintances.

Slacker, I follow 50.

59

LOL. I had to drop some though you know the trolls that keep changing their names.

LOL. I had to drop some though you know the trolls that keep changing their names.

What-Ever!!!

What-Ever!!!

What-Ever!!!

   What are you filled up with? should I be as Worthy as you? What is
the Junk out there? The warnings are a loving care for mankind what
happens if they are not revealed God’s true intentions? I am filled with God’s knowledge should I keep it to myself? and I have no greater love
than the Father and His Son and to guide others to Yahweh’s Love in
his plan and purpose for His perfect Kingdom. My happiness is for others in Understanding God’s true knowledge is always my goal so they and I can love the Lord Yahweh God with all our hearts, and with all our souls, and with all our minds, and with all our strengths. And it’s not easy!
Because most reject the reality of their Creators true purpose and plan
that he has prepared for us His Created Beings.
Rather than the plans they think! God has for them in
their false belief because they were taught from their youth deceitful
mans interpretations. and the true light is not in them. I’m here to show
them the true light and get them to see it as Jesus taught me. All things emanate from the Father.  In Jesus Christ Name.  Amen.

Todd, to be fair, I only started following some on DisqUS.  Also, I don’t follow the trolls.  I only follow those I can actually get along with and can have a decent conversation with, like you.  You’re one I follow on DisqUS, as well.  It’s how I found your particular comment here.  I’d rather not follow the idiots.  I don’t really want to go down that route. If I follow someone on DisqUS, I want it to be kind of like a sign of respect rather than just trying to have fun with the trolls.

That blows all the fun though. However, it does logically explain the low number though.

Not really.  Finding the trolls isn’t a difficult job.  Their syntax usually gives them away.  I simply choose not to use DisqUS for that.  I simply choose to follow them without putting a permanent fixture on them as I would do with DisqUS.  I would rather save DisqUS for more important situations than an idiot troll.

No, you only following those that you can have an honest, open conversation with will always keep the list low.

No, you only following those that you can have an honest, open conversation with will always keep the list low.

I’m always up for a nice, friendly conversation.  Can’t get that with trolls.  When conversing with them, I’m always forced down to their level.  After a while, I actually get sick of it and need a break.  It’s always good to have a nice civil conversation with someone you enjoy talking to to fall back on.  Those are the ones I choose to follow on Disqus.

  There lies the differences the Trinity was a concept
created by man a deceit so strong people will truly
hate the thoughts of us rejecting it. But and trinity
believers will not read our books on it. Trinity was not
in the 1st century disciples it turned up in the 3rd and 4th century theologies that is way too much info
unless you read our material. I know you wont be
convinced unless your open to this. If you’re stuck on
trinity I pray one day you see it’s falseness.

I thought it was supposed to be 23!

We were discussing the number of people that we follow with the dashboard.

23??? What happened to 23?

That is Victor’s IQ.

That was a troll who went by the name Onery.  Probably can still be found around here, unless he went and changed his sock recently.

The conspiracy theory mathematics guy Beck had on his show a couple of times. According to him, all dates, numbers of people, years of catastrophes, etcetera can be calculated and the result is always 23.

LMAO

My top number was 27, but now down to 17. I still have 25 following me though – mostly friends, but enough trolls who think following someone on Disqus is like stalking them. Seems like there are more serial trolls than there used to be.

LMAO, September 11, 2001 only comes to 14 though.

Wow, you make more people mad than me, I only have 16 following me, only three are trolls. Roggie, strtlk, and skiermark.

But if you add 9 for the number of digits in all social security numbers you get….. 23!!!!

That’s what he was doing. Needless to say, Glen and the boys had a lot of fun messing around with this guy.

No wonder they were messing with him.

It’s a gift.

i already am watching you.

i already am watching you.

Christians DO Not hate. Any one who does not get the trinity does not have relationship with God Himself. It happens by way of the cross…where His Son gave His life and by resurrection power given us through the Holy Spirit. I don’t see how your religion claims it reads and believes the whole bible.

Yes, we were warned about the theory of Government, that it ultimately leads to abuse my a small minority. Yes I have interesting problems, but I am a bootstraps person and am using all available means to lift myself up and manage my money better. Thank you for your prayers, I’ll do the same for you.

You’re ignorant. Priests can be married depending on the situation. And priestly celibacy has nothing to do with faith.

Read a little Church history.

So how do you explain the Ethiopian eunuch and 2nd Peter? They both show that scripture is not for everyone’s own personal interpretation.

 PSALMS 39  GOD’S WORD Translation

I said,
   “I will watch my ways so that I do not sin with my tongue.
   I will bridle my mouth while wicked people are in my presence.”
2 I remained totally speechless.
I kept silent, although it did me no good.
   While I was deep in thought, my pain grew worse.
    3 My heart burned like a fire flaring up within me.
Then I spoke with my tongue:
 4 “Teach me, O Lord, about the end of my life.
   Teach me about the number of days I have left
      so that I may know how temporary my life is.
 5 Indeed, you have made the length of my days only a few inches.
      My life span is nothing compared to yours.
   Certainly, everyone alive is like a whisper in the wind.
                         Selah
       6 Each person who walks around is like a shadow.      They are busy for no reason.         They accumulate riches without knowing who will get them.”
 7 And now, Lord, what am I waiting for?My hope is in you!8 Rescue me from all my rebellious acts.Do not disgrace me in front of godless fools.9 I remained speechless.I did not open my mouth   because you are the one who has done this.10 Remove the sickness you laid upon me.   My life is over because you struck me with your hand.11 With stern warnings you discipline people for their crimes.Like a moth you eat away at what is dear to them.Certainly, everyone is like a whisper in the wind.                          Selah
 12 Listen to my prayer, O Lord.Open your ear to my cry for help.Do not be deaf to my tears,   for I am a foreign resident with you,      a stranger like all my ancestors.13 Look away from me so that I may smile again   before I go away and am no more.

thank you.

thank you.

Sir you neither possess the knowledge or have Yahweh’s Holy Spirit until you seek Him
truly in sincere heartfelt prayer you will be his adversary unless you change. You are
not seeking but promoting the deceit you’ve leaned falsely. like the hypocrisy in Jesus
time the pharisees and sadducees thought they knew more about Yahweh more than
His Son Jesus Our Messiah. O awake awake from this sleep you are in and worship
the only true Ail Yahweh is His Name! Praise Him Praise Him for ever and ever! Amen.

Some few can under rare circumstances but pleaqse don’t tell me it is purely voluntary.

By the way. You never answered my question. Is there salvation outside of the Roman Cathoic Church? Waiting…

PSALMS 40:  GOD’S WORD Translation

I waited patiently for the Lord.
   He turned to me and heard my cry for help.
 2 He pulled me out of a horrible pit,
      out of the mud and clay.
   He set my feet on a rock
      and made my steps secure.
 3 He placed a new song in my mouth,
      a song of praise to our God.
         Many will see this and worship.
         They will trust the Lord.
4 Blessed is the person
   who places his confidence in the Lord
      and does not rely on arrogant people
         or those who follow lies.
5 You have done many miraculous things, O Lord my God.
You have made many wonderful plans for us.
   No one compares to you!
I will tell others about your miracles,
   which are more than I can count.  6 You were not pleased with sacrifices and offerings.You have dug out two ears for me.You did not ask for burnt offerings or sacrifices for sin. 7 Then I said, “I have come!      (It is written about me in the scroll of the book.)    8 I am happy to do your will, O my God.”Your teachings are deep within me.9 I will announce the good news of righteousness   among those assembled for worship.      I will not close my lips.         You know that, O Lord.10 I have not buried your righteousness deep in my heart.I have been outspoken about your faithfulness and your salvation.I have not hidden your mercy and your truth   from those assembled for worship.
 11 Do not withhold your compassion from me, O Lord.May your mercy and your truth always protect me. 12 Countless evils have surrounded me.      My sins have caught up with me so that I can no longer see.         They outnumber the hairs on my head.            I have lost heart.
 13 O Lord, please rescue me!Come quickly to help me, O Lord!14 Let all those who seek to end my life   be confused and put to shame.Let those who want my downfall   be turned back and disgraced.15 Let those who say to me, “Aha! Aha!”   be stunned by their own shame.16 Let all who seek you rejoice and be glad because of you.Let those who love your salvation continually say,   “The Lord is great!”
 17 But I am oppressed and needy.May the Lord think of me.   You are my help and my savior.      O my God, do not delay!

   These were really harsh words to the Scribes and Pharisees In Mathew 23:
God’s Word Translation:

 1 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples, 2 “The scribes and the Pharisees teach with Moses’ authority. 3 So be careful to do everything they tell you. But don’t follow their example, because they don’t practice what they preach. 4 They
make loads that are hard to carry and lay them on the shoulders of the
people. However, they are not willing to lift a finger to move them.  5 “They do everything to attract people’s attention. They make their headbands large and the tassels on their shawls long. 6 They love the place of honor at dinners and the front seats in synagogues. 7 They love to be greeted in the marketplaces and to have people call them Rabbi. 8 But don’t make others call you Rabbi, because you have only one teacher, and you are all followers. 9 And don’t call anyone on earth your father, because you have only one Father, and he is in heaven. 10 Don’t make others call you a leader, because you have only one leader, the Messiah. 11 The person who is greatest among you will be your servant. 12 Whoever honors himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be honored.
The Hypocrisy of the Scribes and Pharisees
 13 “How
horrible it will be for you, scribes and Pharisees! You hypocrites! You
lock people out of the kingdom of heaven. You don’t enter it
yourselves, and you don’t permit others to enter when they try.  15 “How
horrible it will be for you, scribes and Pharisees! You hypocrites! You
cross land and sea to recruit a single follower, and when you do, you
make that person twice as fit for hell as you are.
 16 “How
horrible it will be for you, you blind guides! You say, ‘To swear an
oath by the temple doesn’t mean a thing. But to swear an oath by the
gold in the temple means a person must keep his oath.’ 17 You blind fools! What is more important, the gold or the temple that made the gold holy? 18 Again
you say, ‘To swear an oath by the altar doesn’t mean a thing. But to
swear an oath by the gift on the altar means a person must keep his
oath.’ 19 You blind men! What is more important, the gift or the altar that makes the gift holy? 20 To swear an oath by the altar is to swear by it and by everything on it. 21 To swear an oath by the temple is to swear by it and by the one who lives there. 22 And to swear an oath by heaven is to swear by God’s throne and the one who sits on it.
 23 “How
horrible it will be for you, scribes and Pharisees! You hypocrites! You
give God one-tenth of your mint, dill, and cumin. But you have
neglected justice, mercy, and faithfulness. These are the most important
things in Moses’ Teachings. You should have done these things without
neglecting the others. 24 You blind guides! You strain gnats out of your wine, but you swallow camels.
 25 “How
horrible it will be for you, scribes and Pharisees! You hypocrites! You
clean the outside of cups and dishes. But inside they are full of greed
and uncontrolled desires. 26 You blind Pharisees! First clean the inside of the cups and dishes so that the outside may also be clean.
 27 “How
horrible it will be for you, scribes and Pharisees! You hypocrites! You
are like whitewashed graves that look beautiful on the outside but
inside are full of dead people’s bones and every kind of impurity. 28 So on the outside you look as though you have God’s approval, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.
 29 “How
horrible it will be for you, scribes and Pharisees! You hypocrites! You
build tombs for the prophets and decorate the monuments of those who
had God’s approval. 30 Then you say, ‘If we had lived at the time of our ancestors, we would not have helped to murder the prophets.’ 31 So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Go ahead, finish what your ancestors started!
 33 “You snakes! You poisonous snakes! How can you escape being condemned to hell? 34 I’m
sending you prophets, wise men, and teachers of the Scriptures. You
will kill and crucify some of them. Others you will whip in your
synagogues and persecute from city to city. 35 As
a result, you will be held accountable for all the innocent blood of
those murdered on earth, from the murder of righteous Abel to that of
Zechariah, son of Barachiah, whom you murdered between the temple and
the altar. 36 I can guarantee this truth: The people living now will be held accountable for all these things.
 37 “Jerusalem,
Jerusalem, you kill the prophets and stone to death those sent to you!
How often I wanted to gather your children together the way a hen
gathers her chicks under her wings! But you were not willing! 38 Your house will be abandoned, deserted. 39 I can guarantee that you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is the one who comes in the name of the Lord!’ ”

The words of Jesus in Mat. 25: 31-46  GOD’S WORD Translation

31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory and all his angels are with him, he will sit on his glorious throne.
32 The people of every nation will be gathered in front of him. He will
separate them as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.
33 He will put the sheep on his right but the goats on his left.  
34 “Then the king will say to those on his right, ‘Come, my Father has blessed
you! Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the creation of the
world.
35 I was hungry, and you gave me something to eat. I was thirsty, and you gave me something to drink. I was a stranger, and you took me into your home.
36 I needed clothes, and you gave me something to wear. I was sick, and you took care of me. I was in prison, and you visited me.’
 37 “Then the people who have God’s approval will reply to him, ‘Lord, when did
we see you hungry and feed you or see you thirsty and give you something
to drink?
38 When did we see you as a stranger and take you into our homes or see you in need of clothes and give you something to wear?
39 When did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’
40 “The king will answer them, ‘I can guarantee this truth: Whatever you did
for one of my brothers or sisters, no matter how unimportant they
seemed, you did for me.’
 41 “Then the king will say to those on his left, ‘Get away from me! God has
cursed you! Go into everlasting fire that was prepared for the devil and
his angels!
42 I was hungry, and you gave me nothing to eat. I was thirsty, and you gave me nothing to drink.
43 I was a stranger, and you didn’t take me into your homes. I needed
clothes, and you didn’t give me anything to wear. I was sick and in
prison, and you didn’t take care of me.’
 44 “They, too, will ask, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or as a
stranger or in need of clothes or sick or in prison and didn’t help
you?’
 45 “He will answer them, ‘I can guarantee this truth: Whatever you failed to do for
one of my brothers or sisters, no matter how unimportant they seemed,
you failed to do for me.’
 46 “These people will go away into eternal punishment, but those with God’s approval will go into eternal life.”

I don’t see the meaning in this. could you be more specific? But one problem is everyone seems to have their own personal interpretations. This is a huge problem that has to be overcome!

Well said, JW.

It drops by increments of 11…

Hi, guys.

Okay then…we will agree to diaagree…go your way.

Only problem is! God doesn’t Agree to Disagree.

Hellooo…

Hello, benny.

Then by now it should be around – 213.

-9663597?

Guess where I just got back from…

Let me guess?

Rhema- HOLY SPIRIT teaches you all things. 1John 2:27 let no man teach you. John 14:26 The FATHER sent the HOLY SPIRIT to teach you ALL things. It is WRITEN!  Seminary teaches mans ideas and traditions. LOGOS-CHRIST-WORD-JESUS-TRUTH! AMEN! Only by the HOLY SPIRIT!

Hooters!!!

Was that too generous?

you just go for the wings don’t you?

   Truth seeking believers strive to practice what they preach.
Truth believers preach what they don’t practice. Like the Scribes and Pharisees in Mat. 23:. of course more explanation of truth exposure is needed.

Paul’s words! Not my words. GOD’S WORD Translation: Will you read this? Romans 1: 16-32 and chapter 2…

16 I’m not ashamed of the Good News. It is God’s power to save everyone who believes, Jews first and Greeks as well. 17 God’s
approval is revealed in this Good News. This approval begins and ends
with faith as Scripture says, “The person who has God’s approval will
live because of faith.”
18 God’s anger is revealed from heaven against every ungodly and immoral thing
people do as they try to suppress the truth by their immoral living. 19 What can be known about God is clear to them because he has made it clear to them. 20 From
the creation of the world, God’s invisible qualities, his eternal power
and divine nature, have been clearly observed in what he made. As a
result, people have no excuse. 21 They
knew God but did not praise and thank him for being God. Instead, their
thoughts were total nonsense, and their misguided minds were plunged
into darkness. 22 While claiming to be wise, they became fools. 23 They exchanged the glory of the immortal God for statues that looked like mortal humans, birds, animals, and snakes.  24 For
this reason God allowed their lusts to control them. As a result, they
dishonor their bodies by sexual perversion with each other. 25 These
people have exchanged God’s truth for a lie. So they have become
ungodly and serve what is created rather than the Creator, who is
blessed forever. Amen!
 26 For
this reason God allowed their shameful passions to control them. Their
women have exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 Likewise,
their men have given up natural sexual relations with women and burn
with lust for each other. Men commit indecent acts with men, so they
experience among themselves the punishment they deserve for their
perversion.
 28 And
because they thought it was worthless to acknowledge God, God allowed
their own immoral minds to control them. So they do these indecent
things. 29 Their lives are
filled with of all kinds of sexual sins, wickedness, and greed. They are
mean. They are filled with envy, murder, quarreling, deceit, and
viciousness. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, haughty, arrogant, and boastful. They think up new ways to be cruel. They don’t obey their parents, 31 don’t have any sense, don’t keep promises, and don’t show love to their own families or mercy to others. 32 Although
they know God’s judgment that those who do such things deserve to die,
they not only do these things but also approve of others who do them.

Chapter 2:
1 No
matter who you are, if you judge anyone, you have no excuse. When you
judge another person, you condemn yourself, since you, the judge, do the
same things. 2 We know that God’s judgment is right when he condemns people for doing these things. 3 When you judge people for doing these things but then do them yourself, do you think you will escape God’s judgment? 4 Do
you have contempt for God, who is very kind to you, puts up with you,
and deals patiently with you? Don’t you realize that it is God’s
kindness that is trying to lead you to him and change the way you think
and act.
 5 Since you are
stubborn and don’t want to change the way you think and act, you are
adding to the anger that God will have against you on that day when God
vents his anger. At that time God will reveal that his decisions are
fair. 6 He will pay all people back for what they have done. 7 He
will give everlasting life to those who search for glory, honor, and
immortality by persisting in doing what is good. But he will bring 8 anger and fury on those who, in selfish pride, refuse to believe the truth and who follow what is wrong. 9There will be suffering and distress for every person who does evil, for Jews first and Greeks as well. 10 But there will be glory, honor, and peace for every person who does what is good, for Jews first and Greeks as well. 11 God does not play favorites.
 12 Here’s
the reason: Whoever sins without having laws from God will still be
condemned to destruction. And whoever has laws from God and still sins
will be judged by them. 13 People
who merely listen to laws from God don’t have God’s approval. Rather,
people who do what those laws demand will have God’s approval.
God Will Judge People Who Are Not Jewish
 14 For
example, whenever non-Jews who don’t have laws from God do by nature
the things that Moses’ Teachings contain, they are a law to themselves
even though they don’t have any laws from God. 15 They
show that some requirements found in Moses’ Teachings are written in
their hearts. Their consciences speak to them. Their thoughts accuse
them on one occasion and defend them on another. 16 This
happens as they face the day when God, through Christ Jesus, will judge
people’s secret thoughts. He will use the Good News that I am spreading
to make that judgment. God Will Judge Jewish People
 17 You call yourself a Jew, rely on the laws in Moses’ Teachings, brag about your God,
18 know what he wants, and distinguish right from wrong because you have been taught Moses’ Teachings. 19 You are confident that you are a guide for the blind, a light to those in the dark, 20 an
instructor of ignorant people, and a teacher of children because you
have the full content of knowledge and truth in Moses’ Teachings. 21 As you teach others, are you failing to teach yourself? As you preach against stealing, are you stealing? 22 As
you tell others not to commit adultery, are you committing adultery? As
you treat idols with disgust, are you robbing temples? 23 As you brag about the laws in Moses’ Teachings, are you dishonoring God by ignoring Moses’ Teachings? 24 As Scripture says, “God’s name is cursed among the nations because of you.”  25 For
example, circumcision is valuable if you follow Moses’ laws. If you
don’t follow those laws, your circumcision amounts to uncircumcision. 26 So if a man does what Moses’ Teachings demand, won’t he be considered circumcised even if he is uncircumcised? 27 The
uncircumcised man who carries out what Moses’ Teachings say will
condemn you for not following them. He will condemn you in spite of the
fact that you are circumcised and have Moses’ Teachings in writing. 28 A person is not a Jew because of his appearance, nor is circumcision a matter of how the body looks. 29 Rather,
a person is a Jew inwardly, and circumcision is something that happens
in a person’s heart. Circumcision is spiritual, not just a written rule.
That person’s praise will come from God, not from people.

It’s all relevant…

It’s all relevant…

Actually I go for the grouper sammich’.

i don’t know what that is.

A grouper sandwich? Oh man, you are in for a real treat. Go to a good restaurant and ask for a fried grouper sandwich/sammich and you will be pleasantly surprised…

AMEN!!  Thank You!

Thank God! Those words are given to Paul by God! They are just repeated by me.

Truth seeking believers strive to practice what they preach.
Truth promoting believers preach what they don’t practice. Like the Scribes and Pharisees in Mat. 23:. of course more explanation of truth exposure is
needed.

What’s the name of his YouTube channel? I’d like to subscribe to it

   I don’t know that one! But I heard Jesus was on Facebook! But Jesus said if someone
told you he was over there, Don’t believe it!

You’re just soaking up the ambiance,luxurious surroundings, artful displays of culture?

Yeah, what’s your point?

You had fun, that’s the point.

Culturally speaking, you may be right…

I never had any doubts, culturally speaking.

   So you believe in what you are told is truth by your clergy
and they have been God’s responsible and you trust that even
if they are corrupted by their imaginable thoughts.

   People say “I DON’T THINK” When they should say: The Bible tells us that…

   Right Now explain what this verse is telling us step by step… especially keeping
oneself unstained by the world… Because scripture in itself can be taken in many
different interpretations.

   The plank is the deceit of righteousness we have within ourselves.

   The solution no one comes up with is Honor and Glorify the true God that
created mankind and all things and search for His Truth! Even if it goes against
what you’ve learned. Your free will in faith to know God will guide you.
His Name is Yahweh. Seek him for His Glory.

By Grace only if you show worthiness… It’s not a free ride. If it were all
that easy ask and even the evil will be saved in that scenario. I know God does
not allow evil in his Kingdom.

If Jesus was born a man of which he was. He had the frailty to fail (even below the Angels) and yes he was tempted as a man. However he overcame those temptations and that is what made him worthy of the nature of the Fathers Immortality.

   I’m going to break some news to you all and most will hate me for it but first I will give
all these scriptures: Mat. 26: 64.
64 Jesus saith unto him,
Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the
Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds
of heaven.

Who is the son of Man?
Who is the power he sits at the right hand of?

Luke 22: 69.  69 Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God.
The son of Man of course is Jesus! The first of (Man) to be Immortalized! And he sits on
in the power GOD’S right hand.

John 3: 34,35.  34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.

 35 The Father loves the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. Acts 7: 56. 56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. Col 3: 1  1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Heb. 1:13.  13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?

   You must remember that the LOVE of God gives us these visions to share his Nature
and that we become with Him in all things through the rest of His eternity!
If you prefer to stay as you are this is futile and Death will be your destiny.
God knows how we have to be to enable for us to exist with Him! By telling us is His
Love to keep his creation with Him. We on the other hand must search Him to be
like him as He needs us to be. Otherwise we are destructive in ourselves and
will not exist by or on our own decisiveness. That is what God is revealing to us.
Now will you learn to know Him? Your choice is if you want to accept this or not!
When Yahweh Calls He would rather you say yes and follow His Son!
This is Yahweh’s true hope that you do. Praise His everlasting Love for ever and ever.
Amen! So Be It!

Those people that ignore God altogether are not called
of God for He knows their thoughts.

Truth is from God. The priests, called by God with Holy Orders do their best to convey God’s Truth.

Matt 16:17:And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jona! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven.

Christ established His Church and entrusted it to men – men he knows to be marked with Sin. His way, not our way. I cannot know better Him.

So when you go your way consider Jesus Christ return he will set us all on the right path. bless God and His Word
Amen.

Do not let yourself be fooled for a single minute, this is a ridiculous attempt to keep people from going to Church. To keep people from knowing the word of God. To keep believers isolated from others who believe. Believe not this sinner or feel bad for him, for if he truly feels this way, he will soon see the errors of his way.

   I do agree to a point because the ecclesia or called out ones of God strive to
be a Family of God that learn together and help one another stay focused in becoming
one in the Son and becomes one in God as Christ puts it in John 17:…

None of us are worthy friend. If we are sinners we are not worthy. It was and is not a free ride, it cost a great deal. We were bought at a price, that being the sacrifice of Jesus Christ.
If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us but if we confess our sins, God who is faithful and just will forgive us all our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

According to Paul’s gospel in the letter to the Romans if you read it there is grace only to those that does good deeds

7 “He will give everlasting life to those who search for glory, honor, and immortality by persisting in doing what is good. But he will bring 8 anger and fury on those who, in selfish pride, refuse to believe the truth and who follow what is wrong.” Should we argue this with Paul? Interpretation of his words cannot be
misinterpreted.

According to Paul’s gospel in the letter to the Romans if you read it there is grace only to those that does good deeds

7 “He will give everlasting life to those who search for glory, honor, and immortality by persisting in doing what is good. But he will bring 8 anger and fury on those who, in selfish pride, refuse to believe the truth and who follow what is wrong.” Should we argue this with Paul? Interpretation of his words cannot be
misinterpreted.

According to Paul’s gospel in the letter to the Romans if you read it there is grace only to those that does good deeds.

7 “He will give everlasting life to those who search for glory, honor, and immortality by persisting in doing what is good. But he will bring 8 anger and fury on those who, in selfish pride, refuse to believe the truth and who follow what is wrong.” Should we argue this with Paul? Interpretation of his words cannot be
misinterpreted. True no one is worthy but if you strive to learn and follow Christ then you are made worthy by God’s grace.
I don’t know why this tripled?! Disqus I guess!

Romans 7:14-25 ought to answer that. If you misinterpret that too, God help you.

You are talking of the war in his BODY against sin! He is talking about his fleshly natural body has natural sin that he cannot control. He is not talking about sin of the law. the fleshly sin in all our bodies
are lust and emotion senses.

14For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

15For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.

16If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.

17Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

18For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.

19For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.

20Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

21I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

22For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

23But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

24O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

25I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. But he follows the commands of Jesus Christ, are you going to reject Romans verses 1-13 or Romans 8. you can’t pick a verse that defends you! without providing the ones that defends God.

Glenn, drop all the anti Newt G. blogs and start discussing – the threat of muslims in america.  80% of all american mosques follow the preachings of the muslim brotherhood and death to non believers.  Christians are being slaughtered everyday in the middle east.. Chrislam, the new push to incorporate the christian faith into the muslim religion.  Where’s your concern?

Teach them the real reality of Yahweh God and His true Son Jesus! That now they are made of the same stuff that they will inherit the same nature of of the Creator and when they follow the Messiah explicitly (For they are fervent followers) That all will given life  everlasting! And Jesus the Messiah Makes it so. Instead of Death and destruction they
promote to change to them! That would be the solution when they are shown the reality
of truth. It may have to be when the Messiah returns and destroys their false leadership
they will turn to Jesus Christ. Simply because they are kept in fear of their leaders.
Christians on the other hand believe their false knowledge and will be fighting the very
entity of the loving Yahweh God and His Son Messiah Jesus Christ. Lets Pray that the
providence of our loving Father will allow these true believers their safe entrance into
the new Millennium to be taught the real reality of truth of Yahweh God’s Plan and Purpose. 

Romans 6:… GOD’S WORD Translation:   Will you read This?

1 What should we say then? Should we continue to sin so that God’s kindness will increase?  2 That’s unthinkable! As far as sin is concerned, we have died. So how can we still live under sin’s influence? 3 Don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?
4 When
we were baptized into his death, we were placed into the tomb with him.
As Christ was brought back from death to life by the glorious power of
the Father, so we, too, should live a new kind of life.
5 If
we’ve become united with him in a death like his, certainly we will
also be united with him when we come back to life as he did.
6 We
know that the person we used to be was crucified with him to put an end
to sin in our bodies. Because of this we are no longer slaves to sin.
7The person who has died has been freed from sin.
8 If we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him. 9 We know that Christ, who was brought back to life, will never die again. Death no longer has any power over him.
10 When he died, he died once and for all to sin’s power. But now he lives, and he lives for God. 11 So consider yourselves dead to sin’s power but living for God in the power Christ Jesus gives you.
12 Therefore, never let sin rule your physical body so that you obey its desires.
13 Never
offer any part of your body to sin’s power. No part of your body should
ever be used to do any ungodly thing. Instead, offer yourselves to God
as people who have come back from death and are now alive. Offer all the
parts of your body to God. Use them to do everything that God approves
of.
14 Certainly, sin shouldn’t have power over you because you’re not controlled by laws, but by God’s favor.
15Then
what is the implication? Should we sin because we are not controlled by
laws but are controlled by God’s favor? That’s unthinkable!
16 Don’t
you know that if you offer to be someone’s slave, you must obey that
master? Either your master is sin, or your master is obedience. Letting
sin be your master leads to death. Letting obedience be your master
leads to God’s approval.
17 You were slaves to sin. But I thank God that you have become wholeheartedly obedient to the teachings which you were given.
18 Freed from sin, you were made slaves who do what God approves of.
19 I’m
speaking in a human way because of the weakness of your corrupt nature.
Clearly, you once offered all the parts of your body as slaves to
sexual perversion and disobedience. This led you to live disobedient
lives. Now, in the same way, offer all the parts of your body as slaves
that do what God approves of. This leads you to live holy lives.
20 When you were slaves to sin, you were free from doing what God approves of.
21 What did you gain by doing those things? You’re ashamed of what you used to do because it ended in death.
22 Now you have been freed from sin and have become God’s slaves. This results in a holy life and, finally, in everlasting life.
23 The reward for sin is death, but the gift that God freely gives is everlasting life found in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 8: 12-30  GOD’S WORD Translation:   Will you read this?

12 So, brothers and sisters, we have no obligation to live the way our corrupt nature wants us to live.
13 If
you live by your corrupt nature, you are going to die. But if you use
your spiritual nature to put to death the evil activities of the body,
you will live.
14 Certainly, all who are guided by God’s Spirit are God’s children.
15 You
haven’t received the spirit of slaves that leads you into fear again.
Instead, you have received the spirit of God’s adopted children by which
we call out, “Abba! Father!” 16 The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children.
17 If
we are his children, we are also God’s heirs. If we share in Christ’s
suffering in order to share his glory, we are heirs together with him. God’s Spirit Helps Us
18 I consider our present sufferings insignificant compared to the glory that will soon be revealed to us.
19 All creation is eagerly waiting for God to reveal who his children are.
20 Creation was subjected to frustration but not by its own choice. The one who subjected it to frustration did so in the hope
21 that it would also be set free from slavery to decay in order to share the glorious freedom that the children of God will have.
22 We know that all creation has been groaning with the pains of childbirth up to the present time. 23 However,
not only creation groans. We, who have the Spirit as the first of God’s
gifts, also groan inwardly. We groan as we eagerly wait for our
adoption, the freeing of our bodies from sin.
24 We
were saved with this hope in mind. If we hope for something we already
see, it’s not really hope. Who hopes for what can be seen?
25 But if we hope for what we don’t see, we eagerly wait for it with perseverance.
26 At
the same time the Spirit also helps us in our weakness, because we
don’t know how to pray for what we need. But the Spirit intercedes along
with our groans that cannot be expressed in words.
27 The
one who searches our hearts knows what the Spirit has in mind. The
Spirit intercedes for God’s people the way God wants him to.
Nothing Can Separate Us From God’s Love
28 We know that all things work together for the good of those who love God—those whom he has called according to his plan.
29 This
is true because he already knew his people and had already appointed
them to have the same form as the image of his Son. Therefore, his Son
is the firstborn among many children.
30 He
also called those whom he had already appointed. He approved of those
whom he had called, and he gave glory to those whom he had approved of.

   I’m not saying we are! But just a thought. Did you ever stop to think that we may have already entered into the early part of the Millennium? It has been over 2000 years since Jesus Christ death. And the signs are clear! Jesus could be back with us any day now. Death is a true reality of the times! Everlasting will be the new reality in Jesus Christ’s following believers lives.
With God! Anything, is possible! Just a thought, just a thought.

Very interesting. Though, I am not fully convinced that “he had the frailty to fail”.

All humans can be tempted because of the flesh and blood! Remember Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven.

Yes, but isn’t it cheating if you already know that God exist?

Where is the test of faith if Jesus already knew God, or is God?

It would actually be calling God the liar that was
the serpents deceit. If God were pretending to be the Son
He would have known He couldn’t die! and make us think by deceit he was all powerful and mighty! Do you believe God lied?

Could I ask you if Car is an acronym for something or
what its meaning is and why you have occupywallst. org on your profile? I’m curious if you follow this site to be aware of them?

Are you saying Obama is really a fictitious Character?

Gordon Gekko is a fictional character and the
main antagonist of the 1987 film Wall Street and the antihero of the
2010 film Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps,

Yes, Romney is Gordon Gekko. Great with money and slick enough to get others to do the jail time.

“he would have known he couldn’t die”? I though he did know he couldn’t die, just his body died but he is eternal. He even told his disciples he would rise again and would be living in heaven, then coming back for their souls later.

Its like he just lived here temporarily and being completely eternal and knowing exactly who he was. Is this not true. Did Jesus not know he was God?

Isn’t it true that Jesus’s body, after being killed, got up and left his tomb, and he revealed himself to his disciples as a man of flesh and blood? Also, when he went to heaven, didn’t he take his body with him?

   If I were with God. Would I live my life living as I had? If God provided His revealed Word.
Would I not attempt to tell everyone?! If I knew that I had God’s Truth. what do you suppose I
would do about it? If you see someone presenting a different aspect of God’s Word wouldn’t you
at least look at their views in an objective manner? The belief in God has mostly always has
been taught and accepted on hearing His Word. But Seeing what you heard was not exactly
understood. Yahweh God is asking us in a way now to look for His Word instead of just hearing the Word, because now it will be more revealed as you read yourself and look closer into God’s
Word. It will become clearer of His true meaning of His plan! and His purpose for His Kingdom.

   God is not a dictator of words. He is a loving Farther letting us know how we should be, to
able to live with Him in Peace (Harmony) within His realm of existence or (Him being the supreme power of all things) His Kingdom! Being the exalted KING OF ALL CREATION!

   The only reason for this message is for those who seek for the Truth of God will look at
the differences in a logical pattern of research and I will provide some. Take it or leave it!
I will attempt to cause you to THINK! about these differences to form your interest in
God’s Truth that I believe I have IN me. Believe or Reject this. At least Look! at it.

   Romans 9:  GOD’S WORD Translation:  Will you read this?

1 As a Christian, I’m telling you the truth. I’m not lying. The Holy Spirit, along with my own thoughts, supports me in this.
2 I have deep sorrow and endless heartache.
3 I wish I could be condemned and cut off from Christ for the sake of others who, like me, are Jewish by birth.
4 They are Israelites, God’s adopted children. They have the Lord’s glory, the pledges,  Moses’ Teachings, the true worship, and the promises.
5 The
Messiah is descended from their ancestors according to his human
nature. The Messiah is God over everything, forever blessed. Amen.  6 Now it is not as though God’s word has failed. Clearly, not everyone descended from Israel is part of Israel
7 or a descendant of Abraham. However, as Scripture says, “Through Isaac your descendants will carry on your name.”
8 This
means that children born by natural descent from Abraham are not
necessarily God’s children. Instead, children born by the promise are
considered Abraham’s descendants.
 9 For example, this is what the promise said, “I will come back at the right time, and Sarah will have a son.”
10 The same thing happened to Rebekah. Rebekah became pregnant by our ancestor Isaac.
11 Before
the children had been born or had done anything good or bad, Rebekah
was told that the older child would serve the younger one. This was said
to Rebekah so that God’s plan would remain a matter of his choice,
12 a choice based on God’s call and not on anything people do.
13 The Scriptures say, “I loved Jacob, but I hated Esau.”
14 What can we say—that God is unfair? That’s unthinkable!
15 For example, God said to Moses, “I will be kind to anyone I want to. I will be merciful to anyone I want to.”
16 Therefore, God’s choice does not depend on a person’s desire or effort, but on God’s mercy.
17 For
example, Scripture says to Pharaoh, “I put you here for this reason: to
demonstrate my power through you and to spread my name throughout the
earth.” 18Therefore, if God wants to be kind to anyone, he will be. If he wants to make someone stubborn, he will.
19 You may ask me, “Why does God still find fault with anyone? Who can resist whatever God wants to do?”
20 Who
do you think you are to talk back to God like that? Can an object that
was made say to its maker, “Why did you make me like this?”
21 A
potter has the right to do whatever he wants with his clay. He can make
something for a special occasion or something for everyday use from the
same lump of clay.
22 If
God wants to demonstrate his anger and reveal his power, he can do it.
But can’t he be extremely patient with people who are objects of his
anger because they are headed for destruction?
23 Can’t God also reveal the riches of his glory to people who are objects of his mercy and who he had already prepared for glory?
24 This is what God did for us whom he called—whether we are Jews or not.
God Chose People Who Are Not Jewish
25 As God says in Hosea:    “Those who are not my people      I will call my people.   Those who are not loved      I will call my loved ones.26 Wherever they were told,      ‘You are not my people,’         they will be called children of the living God.”
27 Isaiah also says about Israel:
   “Although the descendants of Israel are      as numerous as the grains of sand on the seashore,         only a few will be saved.
28 The Lord will carry out his sentence on the land,      completely and decisively.”
29 This is what Isaiah predicted:
      “If the Lord of Armies hadn’t left us some descendants,      we would have been like Sodom and Gomorrah.”
30 So
what can we say? We can say that non-Jewish people who were not trying
to gain God’s approval won his approval, an approval based on faith.
31 The people of Israel tried to gain God’s approval by obeying Moses’ Teachings, but they did not reach their goal.
32 Why?
They didn’t rely on faith to gain God’s approval, but they relied on
their own efforts. They stumbled over the rock that trips people.
33 As Scripture says,
   “I am placing a rock in Zion that people trip over,      a large rock that people find offensive.   Whoever believes in him will not be ashamed.”

These are questions that are answered with study. I
clearly cannot answer them on the basis of what you know now. however if you wish you can look them up if you would like to www dot thisisyourbible dot com we have many books that lead to the Bible in these matters
and or people will contact you if you wnt to ask questions of them.

These are questions that are answered with study. I
clearly cannot
answer them on the basis of what you know now. however if you wish you
can look them up if you would like to www dot thisisyourbible dot com we
have many books that lead to the Bible in these matters and or
people will contact you if you want to ask questions of them. Don’t fear
if you turn to the true God in your heart He accepts the lack of
knowledge. When you become His loving child.

Well, basically these are just questions. I have developed faith in God, which stems from my personal relationship with God.

I don’t need all the answers and having these ‘interesting’ perspectives does not change my faith. We are curious creatures and asking questions, tryin gto get a better understanding of things is a healthy part of our nature. Well, to be continued…

No, your right you don’t need all the answers!
But you NEED the right answers to know Yahweh God’s Truth. His Word! Not mine.

I disagree with that somewhat. The only truth to know is that understanding God is simple. Love others as God has loved us. Even the 3 wise men could not be filled enough with knowlegde. The relationship with God can only be based, on faith.

Oh! OK but if that’s true why isn’t the Bible Just a
few pages explaining that to us and Simply explain to us! I am your Creator I will save you no mater how you are because I will fix your character automatically so
don’t worry be the way you want! you don’t have to fear Me! I am an easy God! No really sin all you want I’ll
forgive you your just misguided I’ll set you straight.
Oh BTW I will let you live forever you really don’t have to obey me I’m just joking! you’ll be alright!
If this sounds reasonable It’s Really Human Fantasy True?

“OK but if that’s true why isn’t the Bible Just a few pages”

Originally, when GOD himself wrote the bible, it was two pages. The Ten Commandments.

Didn’t the Cathlic Church compile the King James Bible out of individual scrolls from various disciples over time?

So what did people do before the bible? Which is brand new considering humans have been around for a couple of million years.

Even when Moses destroyed the first bible, the two tablets with the commandments, and God had him make it again, he gave him the same information. 10 rules to live by.

In the whole bible, there is no book called, “The Book of Jesus”. I know about the book of Revelations, which is a specific as God gets in telling his followers to write everything down. As well as the book of Psalms.

But I’m just guessing here.
And also, in the book of Psalms, didn’t God say it was better to speak in parables to help you understand?

1 Timothy 6  GOD’S WORD Translation:  Faith still takes knowledge! Money knows nothing in the scheme of things that ends in death. Will you read this?

1 All slaves who believe must give complete respect to their own masters. In
this way no one will speak evil of God’s name and what we teach.
2 Slaves whose masters also believe should respect their masters even though
their masters are also believers. As a result, believers who are slaves
should serve their masters even better because those who receive the
benefit of their work are believers whom they love. Guidelines for Living a Godly Life
Teach and encourage people to do these things.
3 Whoever teaches false doctrine and doesn’t agree with the accurate words of our Lord Jesus Christ and godly teachings
4 is a conceited person. He shows that he doesn’t understand anything.
Rather, he has an unhealthy desire to argue and quarrel about words.
This produces jealousy, rivalry, cursing, suspicion,
5 and conflict between people whose corrupt minds have been robbed of the
truth. They think that a godly life is a way to make a profit. 6 A godly life brings huge profits to people who are content with what they have.
7 We didn’t bring anything into the world, and we can’t take anything out of it.
8 As long as we have food and clothes, we should be satisfied.
9 But people who want to get rich keep falling into temptation. They are
trapped by many stupid and harmful desires which drown them in
destruction and ruin.
10 Certainly, the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. Some people who
have set their hearts on getting rich have wandered away from the
Christian faith and have caused themselves a lot of grief.
11 But you, man of God, must avoid these things. Pursue what God approves of: a
godly life, faith, love, endurance, and gentleness.
12 Fight the good fight for the Christian faith. Take hold of everlasting life
to which you were called and about which you made a good testimony in
front of many witnesses.
13 In the sight of God, who gives life to everything, and in the sight of
Christ Jesus, who gave a good testimony in front of Pontius Pilate,
14 I insist that, until our Lord Jesus Christ appears, you obey this command
completely. Then you cannot be blamed for doing anything wrong.
15 At the right time God will make this known. God is the blessed and only ruler. He is the King of kings and Lord of lords.
16 He is the only one who cannot die. He lives in light that no one can come
near. No one has seen him, nor can they see him. Honor and power belong
to him forever! Amen.
17 Tell those who have the riches of this world not to be arrogant and not to
place their confidence in anything as uncertain as riches. Instead, they
should place their confidence in God who richly provides us with
everything to enjoy.
18 Tell them to do good, to do a lot of good things, to be generous, and to share.
19 By doing this they store up a treasure for themselves which is a good
foundation for the future. In this way they take hold of what life really is.
20 Timothy, guard the Good News which has been entrusted to you. Turn away from
pointless discussions and the claims of false knowledge that people use
to oppose the Christian faith.
21 Although some claim to have knowledge, they have abandoned the faith.
   God’s good will be with all of you.

I would say you are a pretty confused person and
your misconception of Bible scripture needs updating
the first five books of Moses is written in the Hand of
Moses by God. Maybe you should have a talk with your Minister or Pastors. Your views are a slight bit off,
actually a great deal off.

Is any part of the following untrue?

According to Reader’s Digest, this is what happened:

Constantine asked Eusebius to produce 50 “Bibles” for church use in Constantinople. . Since there was no official ‘canon’ at that time, Eusebius compiled lists of three classes of Christian writings.

The first group were books that were universally accepted as sacred. The 2nd group contained seven books that were disputed, but are now considered as part of the canon. (Hebrews, Revelation, James, 2 Peter, Jude, 2 and 3 John).

The third group were less popular books that were considered canonical by some, but not generally considered to be inspired – Didache, Epistle of Barnabas, Shepard of Hermes, among others.

No doubt Eusebius’ choices influenced future attempts at canonization, and in 367 Athanasius wrote an Easter letter agreeing with Eusebius’ choices as to which books should be omitted, and supported including the books in the second category.

The canon was accepted and confirmed by the Council of Carthage in 397, but debate continued about the books of James, Jude, and Hebrews until 419 when the Council of Carthage formally reaffirmed the canon yet again.

Now take that and put that down as the deceit from Councils of men of whom God had nothing to do with those
decisions. And relearn the truth from the first century
Apostles and disciples of Christ were taught directly by Jesus and the Doctrines to follow Then that will be
the real conception of God’s Truth.

It seems like the more questions that are asked, the more questions one has. Don’t you think this is the case?

Questioning is good! How else did Philip teach the Ethiopian eunuch The truth of Prophecy.

   So! is your hope like an atheist? You exist to die! What comes of that? how does your
children pass this on? Living a short life is OK? Enjoy it while you can? What is the purpose
to continue to quietly go and exist no more? If your thoughts are temporary on a small portion
of time what good is it that YOU! can no longer Think! Where does that lead to moral goodness!
 Wait… Do you think it is possible that we have everlasting souls? Good Thought!
But where did these souls come from? Evolution? Why even think of these depressing thoughts? Why even have hope if there is no God? If you are simply a temporary intelligence
and then Death comes what good did it do you and us if we couldn’t control the future because
evil will always exist to cause grief eternally that a planet will always experience turmoil and  evil until its ultimate destruction and the good intelligent Beings of it had no purpose at all!
Should we accept Death of all things as our unwanted but reality of ending of nothingness?
Why even ask? with this thinking there is no HOPE!  Believe in the Creator of Mankind or
Death! If you die becoming nothing! you will never know! But if there is a Creator and obey
His laws of everlasting life! the option of everlasting life is! a better thought! Isn’t it?!

Romans 12: GOD’S WORD Translation: Will you read this?

 1 Brothers
and sisters, because of God’s compassion toward us, I encourage you to
offer your bodies as living sacrifices, dedicated to God and pleasing to
him. This kind of worship is appropriate for you.
2 Don’t
become like the people of this world. Instead, change the way you
think. Then you will always be able to determine what God really
wants—what is good, pleasing, and perfect. 3 Because of the kindness
that God has shown me, I ask you not to think of yourselves more highly
than you should. Instead, your thoughts should lead you to use good
judgment based on what God has given each of you as believers.
4 Our bodies have many parts, but these parts don’t all do the same thing.
5 In the same way, even though we are many individuals, Christ makes us one body and individuals who are connected to each other.
6 God
in his kindness gave each of us different gifts. If your gift is
speaking God’s word, make sure what you say agrees with the Christian
faith.
7 If your gift is serving, then devote yourself to serving. If it is teaching, devote yourself to teaching.
8 If
it is encouraging others, devote yourself to giving encouragement. If
it is sharing, be generous. If it is leadership, lead enthusiastically.
If it is helping people in need, help them cheerfully.
9 Love sincerely. Hate evil. Hold on to what is good.
10 Be devoted to each other like a loving family. Excel in showing respect for each other.
11 Don’t be lazy in showing your devotion. Use your energy to serve the Lord.
12 Be happy in your confidence, be patient in trouble, and pray continually.
13 Share what you have with God’s people who are in need. Be hospitable.
14 Bless those who persecute you. Bless them, and don’t curse them.
15 Be happy with those who are happy. Be sad with those who are sad.
16 Live
in harmony with each other. Don’t be arrogant, but be friendly to
humble people. Don’t think that you are smarter than you really are.
17 Don’t pay people back with evil for the evil they do to you. Focus your thoughts on those things that are considered noble.
18 As much as it is possible, live in peace with everyone.
19 Don’t
take revenge, dear friends. Instead, let God’s anger take care of it.
After all, Scripture says, “I alone have the right to take revenge. I
will pay back, says the Lord.” 20 But, “If your enemy is hungry, feed him. If he is thirsty, give him a drink. If you do this, you will make him feel guilty and ashamed.”
21 Don’t let evil conquer you, but conquer evil with good.
Footnotes:

The first thoughts on diligence should be to recognize what God
surrounds you with. Truly you cannot sense His Providence. But if Holy
Spirit through Jesus Christ is present, the sense of God is broadened.
We
all know that the differences in our faith guides our thoughts and if
your connection with God is dependent on His Guidance in truth I would
think you would be given a greater providential power than if your
dependent on the worldly processes of power.  I think this would be the
secret to justify how you would keep the strength of this country
together by teaching the power to prioritize God in this as being the
greater Providential power than to believe in the Mega- politics of the
world that in most cases fail. The Real power of the Providence in and
of God truly does have the greater power to sustain this country. It is
the stronger belief in Yahweh the (Ail) and Father of all things that
provides mankind with all the necessary things for mankind to succeed.
This is the message God gives us! For God owns and gives all things.
Follow Him Succeed! Follow the worldly ways of mankind views! And Fail!
Providential power is not realized in us but is used for God’s purposes to bring forth
His covenanted promises of which His power of truth is realized. God uses Man in a good
or evil process. Which would you prefer to be used as? Prioritize God! Not worldly ways.
For God owns and gives all things. 

Romans 13: In the New GOD’S WORD Translation: Read what Paul reveals to the Romans!

 1
Every person should obey the government in power. No government would
exist if it hadn’t been established by God. The governments which exist
have been put in place
by God.
2 Therefore, whoever resists the
government opposes what God has established. Those who resist will bring
punishment on themselves.
3 People who do what is right don’t have to be afraid of the government. But
people who do what is wrong should be afraid of it. Would you like to
live without being afraid of the government? Do what is right, and it
will praise you.
4 The government is God’s servant working for your good.
But if you do what is wrong, you should be afraid. The government has the
right to carry out the death sentence. It is God’s servant, an avenger
to execute God’s anger on anyone who does what is wrong.
5 Therefore, it is necessary for you to obey, not only because you’re afraid of
God’s anger but also because of your own conscience.
6 That is also why you pay your taxes. People in the government are God’s servants while they do the work he has given them.
7 Pay everyone whatever you owe them. If you owe taxes, pay them. If you owe
tolls, pay them. If you owe someone respect, respect that person. If you owe someone honor, honor that person. Love One Another
8 Pay your debts as they come due. However, one debt you can never finish
paying is the debt of love that you owe each other. The one who loves
another person has fulfilled Moses’ Teachings.
9 The commandments, “Never commit adultery; never murder; never steal; never
have wrong desires,” and every other commandment are summed up in this
statement: “Love your neighbor as you love yourself.”
10 Love never does anything that is harmful to a neighbor. Therefore, love fulfills Moses’ Teachings.
11 You know the times in which we are living. It’s time for you to wake up.
Our salvation is nearer now than when we first became believers.
12 The night is almost over, and the day is near. So we should get rid of the
things that belong to the dark and take up the weapons that belong to the light.
13 We should live decently, as people who live in the light of day. Wild parties,
drunkenness, sexual immorality, promiscuity, rivalry, and jealousy
cannot be part of our lives.
14 Instead, live like the Lord Jesus Christ did, and forget about satisfying the desires of your sinful nature.

To know God is to love God. To love God is to have knowledge of God. To have knowledge of God is to learn of God. To learn of God is to learn of His instructions to
live within God’s Kingdom. Then God will know and love You! FOREVER!

 If everybody thinks they have enough knowledge to know God’s intentions so be it.
Those
that still think and wonder if they do? We teach His knowledge! It is
your mindset that  answers the call or rejects it because It is between
you and God. We! are just the Messengers.

I have decided! In my heart for the Potter to mold me, as He sees fit.
That is why I am a peculiar person.

 In the George Washington : Diligence Biog. I Wrote…

 Wow! 12 Comments 4 of them are mine. Are we all still asleep? It looks like something
big has to happen again to wake us up! Maybe that is what God is waiting for to send His
Son! The shadow of this is like Moses in Egypt. God will again show all Mankind once and
for all His force is the only presence in existence that will save His Created Beings. Are you with me? 

Unknown Author:

 God
 determines who walks into your life….it’s up  to you to decide who
you let walk away, who you  let stay, and who you refuse to let go.  When  there is nothing left but God, that is when you  find out that God is all you need.

   Any sacrificial takers out there?

 There is only One 1 TRUTH. There is only One 1 GOD. There is only One 1
Way to FOLLOW. And that is only One 1 FAITH!  In YAHWEH GOD!

Why are
some people warning people of this as false truth? When they should be
personally responsible of their own decisions. You know those that steer
others from truth will be severely judged and dealt with possible
death. You who think you have God’s knowledge sicken me with sadness in
my heart, and hope one day will be revealed all of His knowledge…Not
my words! Romans 2 1-9

Romans 2
1 Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things. 2 But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things. 3 And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God? 4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? 5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; 6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds: 7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: 8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, 9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
In The GOD’S WORD Translation: Romans 2: 1-13
1 No matter who you are, if you judge anyone, you have no excuse. When
you judge another person, you condemn yourself, since you, the judge, do
the same things.2 We know that God’s judgment is right when he condemns people for doing these things.3 When you judge people for doing these things but then do them yourself, do you think you will escape God’s judgment?
4 Do you have contempt for God, who is very kind to you, puts up with
you, and deals patiently with you? Don’t you realize that it is God’s
kindness that is trying to lead you to him and change the way you think
and act? 5 Since you are stubborn and don’t want to change the way
you think and act, you are adding to the anger that God will have
against you on that day when God vents his anger. At that time God will
reveal that his decisions are fair.6 He will pay all people back for what they have done.7
He will give everlasting life to those who search for glory, honor, and
immortality by persisting in doing what is good. But he will bring8 anger and fury on those who, in selfish pride, refuse to believe the truth and who follow what is wrong.9 There will be suffering and distress for every person who does evil, for Jews first and Greeks as well.10
But there will be glory, honor, and peace for every person who does
what is good, for Jews first and Greeks as well. 11God does not play
favorites.12 Here’s the reason: Whoever sins without having laws
from God will still be condemned to destruction. And whoever has laws
from God and still sins will be judged by them.13 People who merely
listen to laws from God don’t have God’s approval. Rather, people who do
what those laws demand will have God’s approval.

How can you not understand Paul’s words plainly?

   After your slumber, and when, and if you Awake you will be given another opportunity to obey
your Creator.

Hypocrisy, among other things made me an atheist….until…. I found a church without a paid clergy, with good people who don’t judge others according to their clothing, social status, or choices. No pulpit pounding– but no political correctness either. Truth is of God. Those who love Him do not apologize for speaking it, but do not judge those who don’t follow it. There is a belief in the progression of a believer toward God. We are not either good or evil, we are simply progressing. I love that principle. I didn’t just find a church. I found the church.

We call our Church an Ecclesia In Greek means Church or called out ones.
We have elected elders like the first century’s Apostles and Disciples and are not
paid.  We have been studying God’s knowledge through Old testament and Christ
teaching from the King James Version as close as the 1st century christian as close
as is possible and are and have been studying as a group over 180 years started in
the U.K. and America, and are a Fraternal Brotherhood all in a baptismal agreement
to teach of God and His Son Jesus the Messiah in  the truth of our Creators Plan and
Purpose for His faithful followers.  Email GODnetworld1@usa.com for Questions.

Thank you Jesus for allowing Kingdomwarrior to send your message so easily understood to me this day.  My God provided to me as He has so many times and me – myself a sinner.  Still He gives me comfort.
I read through all of the comments here and I thank God I did.
May God be with you and America. 
Amen.
Nini