U.S. Ambassador killed as Islamic extremists storm embassies in Libya, Egypt

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On the anniversary of the September 11th attacks, chaos in the middle east erupted. First the U.S. Embassy in Cairo was swarmed by thousands of protesters who torn down the flag and replaced it with terrorist slogans – but then things really got ugly when a U.S. ambassador and three staffers were killed in Libya when their Embassy came under attack as well.

Read continuing coverage of the embassy attack HERE.

In Libya, an angry mob stormed the American embassy and in the ensuing violence the U.S. Ambassador to Libya, Christopher Stevens, and three staffers were killed. CNN reports that RPGs were fired into the embassy and caused it to be engulfed in flames. Stevens and the three other staffers were separated from the rest of the people in the building.

CNN elaborates:

A senior U.S. official familiar with the details of the attack said a rocket-propelled grenade set the consulate ablaze, leaving the Americans facing a fire inside and attackers outside.

Stevens and the others who died were separated from the rest of the staff while trying to escape to the roof of the building. The official said there were several “valiant but unsuccessful” attempts to get back into the building and rescue them.

Stevens, Foreign Service information management officer Sean Smith and a U.S. regional security officer were in a safe room in the Benghazi post as it burned around them, according to CNN sources. The security official got out and went back for Stevens and Smith, but found Smith dead and recovered his body, the sources said.

Stevens managed to escape the burning house, but the sources did not know what his condition was when he got out. The sources said Smith died of smoke inhalation, but it was not clear how Stevens died.

Meanwhile in Cairo, Islamic radicals stormed the walls of the U.S. embassy in Egypt and tore down the American flag in protest of a film that mocked Muhammad and Islam.

AFP reported:

Nearly 3,000 demonstrators, most of them hardline Islamist supporters of the Salafist movement, gathered at the embassy in protest over a film deemed offensive to the Prophet Mohammed which was produced by expatriate members of Egypt’s Christian minority resident in the United States.

A dozen men scaled the embassy walls and one of them tore down the US flag, replacing it with a black one inscribed with the Muslim profession of faith: “There is no God but God and Mohammed is the prophet of God.”

Demonstrators also daubed part of that slogan — “There is no God but God” — on the walls of the embassy compound.

Upon reviewing the news, Glenn could not believe how America could react with any

“1979 is the last time somebody tried to kill our ambassador and they did kill our ambassador in 1979 under Jimmy Carter.  What a surprise.  What a surprise.  It has happened only five times and what a surprise, it was in the radical Sixties and Seventies.  And then America got tough and they stopped killing our ambassadors.”

“Now, now that they have killed four embassy staff members and an ambassador and they have taken two embassies, not one, two different embassies and surprisingly ‑‑I mean, what are the odds, what a coincidence, on September 11th, that that just happened to be the day coincidentally.  They are sending us a message, and what was the message we sent back? ”

Glenn said that, to this point, the response from the White House has been weak and unconvincing. Instead, the President should be making a strong stance against the radical groups who led these attacks and stop funding countries like Egypt and Libya whose governments are not friends of the United States.

“We are talking about Muslim extremists.  We’re not talking about every Muslim,” Glenn said. “They are animals.  And this president, what is he doing?  You know what this president should be doing?  He should be calling every congressman right now and saying I’m stopping all funding to Egypt, all of it.  I’m stopping all funding or any aid or anything else we’re doing in Libya, all of it.”

Glenn railed against Obama’s previous praise of the Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptian President Morsi, and the Arab Spring, as well as his disrespectful treatment of Israel.

“He won’t meet with Benjamin Netanyahu but he’s bringing the Muslim Brotherhood leader of Egypt into the White House! ”

“Here’s what the president should be doing today:  First of all, our warships should be on alert.  This is an act of war.  Just taking the embassy is an act of war.  We had two embassies taken in two Islamic countries yesterday by Islamic radicals.  They went in, they burned the flag.  That’s an act of war.  We don’t need another war and we certainly don’t need another war in the Middle East and we certainly don’t need it under this commander‑in‑chief.  But let’s be clear.  That’s an act of war.  Then they take our ambassador and they kill him!  What do you think?  Is that an act of war?”

“First thing, the first thing that has to be done is the president needs to address the American people and say, ‘This is an act of war. Now, how the United States of America decides to handle this is an ongoing discussion and we’ll let you know. But we’re putting you on notice that we did notice you killed our ambassador and took two of our embassies. You don’t push the United States of America around. Period. And by the way, we also notice that you did it on 9/11. We don’t think that was a coincidence. Message received, Muslim Brotherhood. You’ll receive our message. Here’s the first thing we’re going to do. Congress is not sending Egypt a billion dollars’,” Glenn said.

“In about a month or so we’re going to elect another president and he’ll stand by you. He’ll help you when you want to overthrow the Muslim Brotherhood.”

“This president also should announce that he apologizes to Israel. Israel is fighting for their life. Ahmadinejad is coming over and speaking at the United Nations on Yom Kippur, the holiest day of the year. He’s speaking and addressing the United Nations. The next day Benjamin Netanyahu is speaking at the United Nations. The president is going to be there. Benjamin Netanyahu is going to be there. But the president is too busy when he’s in New York to meet with Benjamin Netanyahu. Remember, the guy, he has told he’s never had a better friend. ‘I’ve been the best friend Israel’s ever had as a president.’ But he’s too busy. And what’s on his schedule that he just can’t cancel? He said that Benjamin Netanyahu, the White House came out and said that he can’t meet with Benjamin Netanyahu. No, just can’t do it. Don’t have time; too busy. Oh, by the way, on that day I’m going to be ‑‑ I’m going to be on the David Letterman show. What do you think? Do you want a president that thinks that David Letterman is more important than our ally Israel? I think this is a pretty easy choice, America,” Glenn continued.

“The other thing the president should be doing is closing these embassies. Pulling everybody out. Do you know that Canada just pulled their people from Iran? I’m telling you war is coming. Get our people out. And get our troops back home.”

“This is not good. If you give this man (Obama) another four years, there will not be a country left. There’s no way to survive the onslaught, the coopting of the Muslim Brotherhood. There is no way to survive the way this man spends money. ”

“It’s 1979 and as much as Bill Clinton looks like a dream come true to us, if you give this man another four years, America, Jimmy Carter is going to look like a dream come true.

  • Anonymous

    glenn is a no nothing piece of shit…
    he has no clue what is being done, nor should he.

    I have an idea.
    Instead of attacking the President, let him do his job.
    Using the death of U.S. citizens to start another baseless attack once again shows that glenn beck is a gutter swimming piece of shit!!!

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    This attack on both embassies and the murder of at least four of our fellow Americans is an act of war, a deliberate and premeditated provocation designed to show to the world how vulnerable we truly are.

    According to many accounts Cairo Embassy broadcast their apology letter twice, even after Obama’s alleged denouncing of it from the White House (personally I see it as a CYA moment on his part).

    Later on he claims he will stop at nothing to have these murderers brought to justice; which we all know how worthless words are when compared to actual deeds when a move such as this, violating US terrritory of our Embassies, occurs.

    Then the MSM joins in a coordinated assault on Romney for his honest and accurate criticism of Obama’s foreign relations disasters, especially in this matter. The Blaze has a recording of an open-mike incident showing that this happened. So now Obama is trying to blame Romney via the MSM; and MSNBC is now demanding that the DOJ investigate for murder the Fla pastor who threatened to burn the Quoran; claiming that his threat to do this caused the murder of our citizens in Libya.

    Radical Islam does everything for a purpose:

    Showing off the weakness of America, take out the embassies.
    Showing to the US that Radical Islam is still a true threat.
    Showing the world ‘we can do as we please, when and where and to whom we wish’
    Showing the world ‘we are in holy war against all other faiths and people’
    Showing the world ‘The Caliphate is coming again.’
    Iran and Egypt – alliances growing between them in all areas for the coming storm with Israel and dominance of the Middle East
    Israel – abandoned by Obama to their fate.

    We should be on a full war warning by now; and instead, only Embassies are on such alerts, while mass demonstrations occur in Algeria and Morroco. Due to Obamas Arab Spring sewing the wind, we shall soon see the full whirlwind returned upon our nation in full.

    Understand too; the radicals do nothing for one reason, there will be more coming soon…and sooner than any of us expect.

  • SoThere

    Folks, strtlk is the face of the Liberal Progressives in this country. Many of them are in our Government.

    Save America from idiots like this, vote Conservative.

    It’s OK to vote out an noneffective President. Really, it is.

  • Anonymous

    Listen,a-hole, the president will do nothing. Oh i take that back, he will apologize for us . Instead of telling them that we are pulling our embassy and our billions of dollars out of their country.We stand for freedom or we stand for nothing.We speak from a position of strength, but not under this president.We have ALL been waiting for him to do his job, but it”s already 3 and a half years, you think he can do it in the month and a half he has LEFT?.

  • Anonymous

    The Joint Chiefs are getting involved in politics. They’re trying to place blame for the attacks on a Florida pastor for showing an anti-Islamic film. Take our freedoms away so we can appease the terrorists? That’s the thinking of the liberal government. Just like the invasion of Illegals coming into the country, the liberals blamed that on Americans that wouldn’t take jobs here. It’s always our fault, right? These people have to be drummed out of office.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Carmine-Fragione/100002894613526 Carmine Fragione

    why din’t Obama protect our foreign ambassadors in hostile territory on the anniversary of 911 ? There is no such coincidence of some movie that provoked this attack, it had to be well planned, and the POTUS was asleep at the wheel. There was no security . It is all inexcusable.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEhRucEVzH8&feature=share&list=PL5FABE780A13D231D Rahm Kota

    It will not shock me if he kisses their ass. This had nothing to do with a stupid video and had all to do with 9/11. I say we burn more of their holy books just to prove I point you burn our flag attack our embassies and kill our people without just cause than we will burn you holy books

  • Anonymous

    since those people attacked our Embassy in Lybia and stormed the Embassy in Cairo,taken down our flag (national symbol) and burned it, i would say that is a declaration of war on their part,we should shoot back since the Embassy’s are considerd American soil, in other words those people invaded us ,besides of illegaly entering

  • Anonymous

    America thought that the Iran hostage situation was bad. At least, they didn’t kill anybody. These idiots are far worse and have killed four Americans. Whether they kill four or 3,000, this is an act of war! If America doesn’t sever complete ties with Egypt and Libya, then America is doomed! It will only encourage the extremist terrorists to do further damage and show the world who has more clout. I just can’t believe what I’m seeing.

  • Anonymous

    Does the POTUS know or realize that an attack on any of our embassies is an attack on the USA?

  • new2la

    For the first time I saw Bill Clinton asking to send the creep a $10.00 donation by text….Bill Clinton, do you have no conscience?
    They are using that movie about Mohammad as a cue to start something, which they did. This president should be hauled away in handcuffs; He is behind in all that is happening; Obama the plant.

  • new2la

    We can forget about the response from the asp in DC.

  • new2la

    Instead of giving us your two cents, how about if you bent down and crack a smile aimed at your messiah, the king of fools?

  • Anonymous

    Unreal and sad how terrible the U.S. has become over the radical islam and so called Arab Spring hatred.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEhRucEVzH8&feature=share&list=PL5FABE780A13D231D Rahm Kota

    You know what maybe Obama should stop supporting revolutions started by Muslim extremist and maybe things like this would NEVER HAPPEN! I know it is crazy for the left to not cave into Muslim extremist or hand them money like the idiots at code pink do. You play with fire and gasoline shit like this will happen. Now take your fake outrage and shove it.

  • Anonymous

    dont’ forget: during the clinton years, yasar arrafat (sp.) was the most frequent visitor to the white house and camp david. the clinton yrs. weren’t all that great.

  • greywolfrs

    I am so glad that this administration supported these idiots. I can see they are showing how grateful they are for the help.

  • Anonymous

    Remember this was a attack on us AMERICA
    Just like the right’s we are losing
    Illegal alien’s
    Drug’s from our leader’s and friend’s from the south,IT is all on purpose don’t be fooled !!
    IT’S on PURPOSE !!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Oh, he will respond, new21a. “I’m so sorry we offended you. Please accept my humble apology.” After all, didn’t he publicly say he would side with the Muslims in case it appeared like there was going to be any war?

  • greywolfrs

    Hey, it’s sticky chin the coward. Another baseless attack? So, it wasn’t Obamao who supported these idiots in their civil wars? And this is how they thank him? You are a complete moron, sticky chin.

  • Anonymous

    Would that be the ”vertical smile” to which you refer?

  • Anonymous

    He’s waiting for a 2nd term, jay, so he can be ”more flexible.”

  • Anonymous

    I’m still trying to figure out Pres. Obama’s press conference this morning. He didn’t even give his statement until after Secretary Clinton and Romney gave theirs (more “leading from behind”?), and when he finally got around to giving the press conference, his statement started out by condemning the attack and somehow transitioned into how he went to visit wounded soldiers in the hospital yesterday as part of his 9/11 observance.

  • Lioness

    We’re not even giving our own money to these horrid places, it’s China’s money and our unending debt. Brings new meaning to spreading the wealth.

  • Anonymous

    I think it is yet another example of exactly how unprepared for and ill-equipped he is to deal with an emergency situation. He just stands back. Not a good quality in a nation’s leader.

  • Anonymous

    Our coward president hides in his closet not knowing what to do, he does not want to fight with his Muslim Brotherhood friends. Good old Hillary Clinton and dumber then dirt John McCain sure did this country wrong by using our millitary to help the rebels overthrow Egypt, now the new war starts and this time it will be our country against the new occupiers

  • Anonymous

    Maybe “they” didn’t kill anyone directly but remember, eight U.S. servicemembers died in when President Carter sent them in in to try to free the hostages.

  • SoThere

    There are now “boots on the ground” in Libya. The killing of Americans has just begun.

  • http://www.facebook.com/nick.barlow.104 Nick Barlow

    Progressives live to define “the conversation” by defining terminology. So, I thought I may have a “go” at it as well. The terminology under consideration includes RELIGION OF ISLAM and MILITANT MUSLIMS. Here it is:

    “We in the United States embrace a right of religious freedom and have no issue with people who practice the RELIGION OF ISLAM, even though MILITANT MUSLIMS declare that they are our enemy.”

    Now, shall we use these terms consistently to make the distinction between religion and military aggression, thus defining the “conversation?”

  • Anonymous

    Leave it to Obama. We’re attacked on our own soil (the embassies) and what is his first reaction? Apologize to the attackers on the embassy’s website. Has anyone noticed that Obama’s words were literally plagiarized from George Bush’s speech after the towers fell? He has to quote someone he despises because he has no words that he can formulate himself?

    This may be radical Islam’s statement, but don’t believe for one second that Egypt or Libya’s governments disapprove of what happened. The Libyan guards actually signaled the crowd and showed them where the ambassador and his guards were at inside the building! If they were doing their jobs, then why wasn’t a singe Libyan guard wounded or killed?

    In Egypt, the embassy guards allowed the protestors inside the embassy grounds. The actions of these terrorist states and their people belie their intent. Both invasions were violations of sovereign US soil and should be considered acts of war. Both nations need to be put on notice that should they fail to control their people again and protect US soil in their nations, it will be considered an act of war on the part of the government and the next time, it will be answered with cessation of diplomatic relations and warplanes.

    Worse, Obama has now told Binyamin Netanyahu that, while he realizes Israel could be attacked soon with nuclear tipped missiles from Iran, he does not have time to meet with him. However, he says, Netanyahu should realize that he “has a great friend in the United States.” Uh huh. Know why he won’t see Netanyahu? Because he’s appearing on the David Letterman show. Sorry, Benny, but my image is FAR, FAR more important than the potential genocide in Israel. But, hey, we got yer back, dude!

    Obama sent diplomatic cables through TWO countries to make certain that the screaming, crazy Persians got the message that, no matter what he’s said, if Israel attacks Iran, the US will stay strictly neutral. This act alone, constitutes treason and could lead to complicity in the murders of thousands of Israelis.

    Obama thinks he is just misunderstood. Yeah, that’s it…his actions have pretty well spelled out that he’s VERY compassionate…toward terrorists, anyway.

  • greywolfrs

    Depends on what the meaning of “is” is.

  • Peter Wiggin

    Sharia must change…

    It is time to expose the truths of Theocratic Islam and Sharia Law. Some how this administration feels that uniting Orthodox Islam under a contrived Arab Spring is a sound International strategy. Peace on our World will only occur with a change in Sharia. If there is hope for Islam it would be with the moderate Muslims who are too afraid to speak. You see, Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion must be allowed in  Islam as it must be allowed in a Free World. Without it you have only Sharia Law and it’s practice is all that We hate.  

  • Sandie

    Remember why he chose Biden for his VP? It was because he would be a valuable advisor on these foreign matters because of “all his experience”. Looks like it is dumb leading dumber.

  • Sandie

    He is waiting till after the election, assuming to win, and will then throw Israel to the wolves. He will do nothing to help them take out Iran’s reactor or in any other way stop Iran’s nuclear program or do anything else to assure their safety as a nation.

  • new2la

    Good one bjv…exactly…in fact, he should bring along a match!

  • Anonymous

    We need our president to have a strong response to this attack. I don’t see it. If Obama doesn’t want us to believe that he is involved with the Muslim Brotherhood, then he needs to take action. When they took over Egypt, I knew they would take over that entire region. This is the crisis before the election.

    He will use this and the union walkouts to cause the crisis needed. He turns his back on Israel again not seeing the Prime Minister. If there is war between Israel and Iran, he will not support Israel.

    Where is the outrage? Some Americans are not affected by any of this.

  • Anonymous

    You guys got it all wrong. Wasn’t it the head of the CIA that told us that the Muslim Brotherhood is a mainly peaceful wing of Islam? Hillary, Obama, they all told us that we have nothing to fear. All of the Mohammad balderdash.
    Obama and all of the dems telling us that we needed…NEEDED to help those poor people of Libya by arming them to defeat the dictator Qaddafi? All of those reports of the rebels being joined by Al Qaida were just silly, you see. Never mind that Iran and Syria were by far worse than anything seen in Libya, but we HAD to act in Libya.
    And oh, that oh-so-great Arab Spring, with Egypt. Democracy in the Middle East. Even though Israel is our greatest ally in the world and such, we denounce them to prop up the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt? AND invite them to the White House?!?!?!?
    This is all backfiring on Obama and Co., and it is shameful and treasonous that he has to be shamed into making a statement.
    Romney sounded Presidential.
    We need to stop bowing to Saudi’s and start kicking some Muslim Brotherhood rear ends!

  • new2la

    They are decendants of lucifer himself if truth be told. I personally have friends that are Muslim and my aim is to change their belief. It’s working, I am almost there….wish me luck.

  • http://twitter.com/ShirleyRicci1 Shirley Ricci

    Obama thinks he is just misunderstood. Yeah, that’s it…his actions have pretty well spelled out that he’s VERY compassionate…toward terrorists, anyway. http://AppleMillionaireProject.webs.com

  • new2la

    He hasn’t gotten the memo yet bjv……it was nowhere on the TelePrompTer! (The iPad has some cliches it needs to address and correct!)

  • windtalker700

    You’re an idiot ! remember when The Secretary of the United States of America
    laughed when she reminisced about Qadaffi’s death ? Qadaffi was beaten to death
    by his own people in the most barbaric manner, no due processes of law, no
    courts, just barbarism, and The Secretary of the United States of America laughed
    when she reminisced. I hope people will wake up and re visit those things and
    know the truth. The ruthless are those who are in power here and now, not the
    leaders of tomorrow. They have set the
    Eastern world on fire and they blame somewhere between nobody and Israel. Again, you’re an Idiot !

  • D C

    Wouldn’t surprise me at all if the moslem brotherhood traitor in chief himself was in on planning these attacks. He’s got to be one of the moslem brotherhood king pins himself. He even smells like it – liquid fertilizer pig manure.

  • D C

    I say obambam is behind it all.

  • D C

    obambam the moslem brotherhood traitorous piece of sh(BLEEP)t in chief will hoist the islamic flag atop the white house himself.

  • Anonymous

    Wouldn’t it be something if Obama was in deed in control of the muslims in Egypt and the other middle eastern countries. I don’t trust him or anything he says – he is basically a liar, he has proven that over and over again. If he is put back in office for four more years, then we are going to look like those countries and there will be warring in America. God has lifted his protection, graciousness, and love from us, and the only way to get it back is to REPENT!!! We need a revival and for all Christians to come together. We can fight this if we will all get out and vote to get Obama and all his Marxists friends out of OUR White House. May God help us!!

  • Sandie

    … and if there is any justice, a lightening bolt will strike him…

  • VindicatorX

    When are we going to treat these people seriously? The have made it clear they intend to keep killing us, so why play footsie with them any longer?

    Close our embassies, withdraw our people, blockade their ports, Start patrolling their skies with EC-130J Commando Solo aircraft and jam all their communications technologies, (no more flash mob demonstrations by cell phone or tweeting), cut off all aid, humanitarian, monetary, and military especially, and send in the spartans. Declare no fly zones and enforce them. Remove all targets of opportunity from their cities. Don’t let them come to America for any reason what so ever.

    Then finally get Congress to declare war on them, and give them what they want. They won’t want it when they get it, but I think they have demonstrated their desire for it very well, and why deny them what they so richly deserve?

    As soon as we get this election taken care of, it’s time to end this once and for all.

  • Anonymous

    Someday you will have to tell me who the Secretary of the United States of America is.
    You see, there is no such position in our government.
    So please, after you pass the third grade and figure out what you are talking about, let me know.
    Until then, simply talk to the other idiotic and ignorant becklings. They are just as stupid as you!!!

  • Anonymous

    Talk to me again in 2016, it is when you will be bragging that your next candidate is going to win. This year…You are wasting your time.

  • Anonymous

    Or as Sandie pointed out, that may have been one of the classes B.O. missed when Biden was ”teaching” him about foreign affairs. Sure.

  • Anonymous

    @Maosucks:disqus, Doubt that the man will ever admit it, but Libya is shaping up to be B.O.’s Iraq. You remember the WMD that ”sold” that campaign? And all the grief GW suffered when they weren’t found? This support for Libya is going to come back and bite the POTUS in the butt. Doubt the LSM will report on the matter in the same way as you!

  • Anonymous

    @VindicatorX:disqus, Don’t think much, if any, of what you suggested will happen as long as B.O. is in the WH. That’s why HE HAS TO GO!

  • Anonymous

    we’ve never responded to an attack on an embassy as though it was an act of war, and never immediately. For a couple of reasons, don’t really know what group is responsible. And most importantly it is very fragile situation over there (both cases have fledgeling governments and in the worst incident in Libya just experienced a civil war, both situations minority extremist groups would try to pounce on) and us getting involved militarily will only generate a shit storm that will cause a lot more problems than its worth.

  • Anonymous

    we’ve never responded to an attack on an embassy as though it was an act
    of war, and never immediately. For a couple of reasons, don’t really
    know what group is responsible (especially since this wasn’t a foreign government orchestrated attack any response would need to be specific and well planned while also taking into consideration possible further repercussions of any response made). And most importantly it is very fragile
    situation over there (both cases have fledgeling governments and in the
    worst incident in Libya just experienced a civil war, both situations
    minority extremist groups would try to pounce on) and us getting
    involved militarily will only generate a shit storm that will cause a
    lot more problems than its worth for both us and Israel.

  • Anonymous

    Even if Iran had nukes they wouldn’t attack Israel (this doesn’t mean that a nuclear Iran isn’t a problem, they have long stated their intent to be a regional power, which is why after the first Gulf War devastated Iraq’s military Israel and Iran’s tenuous cooperation came to an end as they were now the two closest things to regional powers).
    The worst thing we could do no matter what happens to the embassies is launch a military response. Even the majority of people in those countries, who while may not like the United States, do not wish for conflict with us would rally together against us. It would destabilize an entire region, and likely effectively end the legitimacy of two fledgling governments (who while they may not be ideal they are certainly better than civil war).

  • Anonymous

    we’ve never responded to an attack on an embassy as though it was an act
    of war, and never immediately. For a couple of reasons, don’t really
    know what group is responsible. And most importantly it is very fragile
    situation over there (both cases have fledgeling governments and in the
    worst incident in Libya just experienced a civil war, both situations
    minority extremist groups would try to pounce on) and us getting
    involved militarily will only generate a shit storm that will cause a
    lot more problems than its worth.
    And frankly going to war with an entire region is not worth it, and is probably a war that we can’t win. Too many soldiers who didn’t need to die have already died in American history. These are minority groups we’re dealing with thriving on the environment of countries with fledgling governments, any action we take will only uselessly waste the lives of American servicemen and further worsen the situation over there.
    You are right that the transnational violent muslim extremists want a war with, hell they would love it if we went to war and discriminated against all the muslim nations of the middle east. That’s what Osama wanted, b/c they know that is the only way they can win over the people and that is the only way they can beat us.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Horton/100000278827311 Jeff Horton

    Don’t buy Levi Strouss items until they pull their manufacturing out of egypt. And other anti american states. we don’t need anything from them.

  • Lioness

    You’ve made a great point. We don’t need any more of our troops there, we have technology for goodness sakes, far greater than anything they have. We need to separate ourselves from that backwards war and protect our borders (a little energy independence wouldn‘t hurt). And most of all stop giving them our money, how pathetic. It’s like handing cash to someone who just murdered your family. We should have no part in the asylum over there, their religion has complete control over their insane behavior and we can not change it.

  • Lioness

    I think you’ve succeeded in your attempt to sound like a progressive because I’m confused:)

  • MarsBarsTru7

    I have a feeling that the poop is about to hit the fan. I know we’ve all experienced so many “high alerts” from media types that it just gets tedius, and I can’t quite nail down all the specifics that make me feel this way. Some: gas price protests, OWS revisiting NYC en masse, Chicago strike, the lying polls, NBC and MSNBC flying off the rails, gun sales and ammo sales still climbing, food prices jumping, jobless rate rapidly increasing, newly finished “secret” bunker in the White House, federal agencies just received massive shipments of arms and ammunition, Middle East flare up worse than ever, U.S. embassies and citizens being killed in the Middle East while Obama does nothing but talk, a sudden change in rhetoric from the left (as if… no matter what the right can’t win this time)… etc… etc… etc…
    Call me an alarmist if you must. Just… Everyone be careful. Be frugal. Prep. if you can. Keep your eyes and ears open.

  • jon venuto

    ” Later on he claims he will stop at nothing to have these murderers brought to justice.”-
    He will start and end at nothing. . .
    Other than give the Muslim Brotherhood a raise.

  • Anonymous

    Muslim see, Muslim do, Muslim hate like Muslim do….

    Islam is the fruit of religious intolerance, it is fraudulent on every conceivable front. It is a smokescreen devouring everything decent, just and good. Hostile monsters are its converts from any lingering former rational thought World mayhem is the agenda, death to the West especially Israel and America are the ultimate goal.

    Here’s an original idea, America should help bring about democracy in the middle east, and hold a white-house meeting with a sworn enemy – the Muslim Brotherhood, while simultaneously, we jest our long-time friend and ally Benjamin Netanyahu.

  • Anonymous

    We are all saddened by the deaths of Christopher Stevens and other Americans who worked at the embassy. There should have been adequate protection there in light of the anniversary of 911. I am also saddened that our President went to Las Vegas to campaign in spite of these deaths, and that he opened his comments on the tragedy, at a pep-rally.

  • Anonymous

    If Obama has enabled the Brotherhood in the Middle East, he will try and do it in America. Bad things are coming. Would it be too much to ask the Main Stream Media to support Americans , instead of terrorists?

  • SoThere

    Folks, this is what a Liberal progressive is all about.

    We can save this country from idiots like strtlk by voting Obama out of office.

    It’s OK to remove an ineffective President, really it is!

    Save America, vote conservative.

  • SoThere

    Folks, this is what a Liberal progressive is all about.

    We can save this country from idiots like strtlk by voting Obama out of office.

    It’s OK to remove an ineffective President, really it is!

    Save America, vote conservative, now’s the time.

  • Anonymous

    NATO has teamed with alqueada in syria to overthrow Assad? There is more going on than meets the eye. Keep cool heads.

  • Anonymous

    This is what happens when you want to spread democracy. We need a different foreign policy in the White House.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YMJUHF4UNZWSLIDRXPSSTOHA3Q Shane

    Maybe we should allow the marines who guard the embassies to have a few bullets in their guns; right now the Marines have empty weapons. We can’t rely on Muslim countries to protect our embassies from Islamic militants. How about the President announces to the Muslim world that the USA has freedom of speech for all its citizens, and if they don’t like something an American citizens says, then they can go suck it. We need a President who will stand up to the Islamic fanatics and defend our constitutional right to freedom of speech.

  • outlawed

    Glenn proves some great points about how the president is not addressing this situation that just occurred on 9/11. He also points out how the president does not meet with important people right away……. BP oil spill in the gulf, it took him almost 3 months to set a meeting up with the president of BP. Anyone think that Libya’s media played the film to help cover up a planned attack and made it look like the film was the reason they attacked?

  • http://www.facebook.com/jacqueline.lebron.73 Jacqueline Lebron

    I Agree. May God Bless and Keep us

  • http://www.facebook.com/jacqueline.lebron.73 Jacqueline Lebron

    I keep telling this to my family but they think I am crazy

  • Anonymous

    Feeding the trolls only make them think they are important…. it justifies their pitiful existence ignore them they are the mosquito’s on the windshield of life, why try to have an intelligent conversation with the sophomoric? What is important here is staying focused on what is important…. November is important a day we will see a “change” WE can believe in!

  • Anonymous

    Please let’s not make this tragedy about our country’s upcoming election. People lost their lives. Let’s pray for those individuals as well as their families. The Romney and Obama attack ( I mean election )campaigns can wait a couple of days..

  • Anonymous

    I believe that we are seeing Bible Prophecy literally happening right now. Read the many Bible Scriptures pointing to these days. Some examples: Isaiah 17: 1 – 5, Isaiah 19, Book of Joel, Ezekiel 36, 37, 38, 39, Acts 2:19 (Check out book “Dreams and Visions” by Tom Doyle which is a book about Muslims having Dreams and Visions of Jesus Christ throughout the entire Middle East available at Amazon), Matthew 24. Believers need to be in serious prayer and Bible Study. Time is short.

  • Anonymous

    Come now Moasucks – we all know full well, that the reason the Arab Spring has thus far, been deemed a failure, is because of the complete conservative disbelief of the entire Middle East democratic process. By their failure to swallow hook- line and sinker of the Democrats daily spin, it only makes it seem that Obama has been unsuccessful.

    Solution, grab your clubs and hit the links….oh and turn off your TVsets, your radios, laptops- desktops, I-Pads, cellphones etc. etc. etc then all will be well here in the good-ol USofA.

  • Anonymous

    What is sad, even sickening, is the thought of the dangerous progression of the relationship between Israel and the US and what both nations are now facing. Friends are supposed to be known by their deeds and actions, and by our resent political denial of Israels right to exist – honestly, who needs friends like America these days, especially with Obama at the helm.

    I read an article recently, speaking about Israel actually contemplating the idea of going to Germany for support – instead of the US. How things have changed and how ironic that the one nation who supported the tiny Nation of the Jews more then any other, might be replaced by the one nation who wanted to annihilate the entire Jewish race from off the planet. We can only hope that history does not repeat itself.

    This is more than maddening – its insane!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Nice post fuck stick.
    I didn’t personally attack you, but you found the need to go the extra mile.
    Well done.
    You have learned a lot from glenn beck.
    Your next move, if you follow his doctrine, is to personally threaten my life, ridicule my children or make bigoted comments about my children.
    Fell free to choose any of these options…
    God already knows you are an evil douchebag!!!

  • Anonymous

    Well spoken. I cannot understand the lack of apathy from our people. It is one thing for Obama to turn his back on Israel, but it is another that we let him do it without outrage. We should be in the streets protesting to support our friend Israel. The next step would be to throw this man out of office because he is a disgrace. You are correct in saying it is insane. I am sickened watching and knowing what will happen next if we don’t change it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/pemallard Pat Mallard
  • SoThere

    Folks, strtlk is the vulgar face of the Liberal Progressives in this country, some of them are in our government.
    Save America from people like strtlk, vote Conservative.

    New2la, strtlk has threatened peoples lives here, (Glenn Beck, the SCOTUS) ect. He also ridiculed my children and made bigoted comments about political Republican Blacks. He’s a bigot , a racist and a hatemonger.

    He is what he claims others of being.

    Save America from idiots like strtlk, vote Conservative and shut this idiot up.

  • SoThere

    new2la, strtlk is the vulgar face of the Liberal Progressives in this country, some of them are in our government.
    Save America from people like strtlk, vote Conservative.
    New2la, strtlk has threatened peoples lives here, (Glenn Beck, the SCOTUS) ect. He also ridiculed my children and made bigoted comments about political Republican Blacks. He’s a bigot , a racist and a hatemonger.
    He is what he claims others of being.
    Save America from idiots like strtlk, vote Conservative and shut this idiot up.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t be so naive Ed, Iran has been attacking Israel and many other sovereign states for decades on. Ever heard the term “Proxy” used? Ever heard of Al-Qaeda maybe Hezbollah or Muslim Brotherhood not to mention other such militant groups who sympathize with their radical ideology – by the way, one just took over the government of Egypt and has quickly become a religious armed camp – otherwise known as, a dictatorship. Oh and by the way, they (The new democratically elected Egyptian Government) just had their first talks with the Iranians in over 30 years which took place several days ago, funny that only a few days afterward, our Embassy’s in three different Islamic nations have now been attacked.

    If the majority of people in the Islamic world do not wish to have war waged on them by the United States, then they certainly have a funny way of showing it. No, the only way to make this sort of thing disappear from the Middle East is absolute overwhelming military response on the capitals of each country involved – that will send the clear desired message that you don’t mess with the USA.

    Again, if you haven’t noticed, when has the Middle East ever been stable? – You can’t destabilize something that has always been a political hornets nest.

    Peace through strength will gain their attention and calm these fanatics down.

  • new2la

    Does it really matter which group in That country were the perps? Lead through strength and that doesn’t mean apologies on our part. They struck us because some idiot on our side made a film that interested no one here. Comparing murders and film making are two totally different issues. Cower and suffer the consequences.

  • new2la

    Don’t you worry, I know how this individual operates. I have all his info I need. He has a vocabulary of a first grader, if that….and yes, a racist bigot of the worst kind.

  • SoThere

    I’ve been personally threatened by this idiot, he insulted my wife and children and made numerous death threats. I’ve archived all of them and many others.

    He lied about his Military service, educational claims and past history where he claimed to be a police officer, firefighter, teacher, sailor on a secret mission and so much more.

    He’s what’s wrong with this country, a cancer festering in the Nation.

    I try to reply to his garbage and to the people he attacks.

    I just wanted people he posts to to know. :)

  • Anonymous

    History repeating itself – stands at our shores, as in the days leading up to WWII, a vast portion of our population felt that entertainment was somehow of more value, than the frightening world events unfolding all around them.

    Its the effect of a false sense of security, in having two of the worlds largest oceans buffering us from reality, but the world today is a very much smaller place then it was back in the thirties, not only are we exposed and vulnerable, poor Israel is surrounded on all sides several layers deep, by enemies having one purpose and that is her death and total destruction. God forbid!

  • http://www.facebook.com/sofia.mcnabb.9 Sofia McNabb

    Thank you for speaking the truth. God bless you.

  • Anonymous

    Glenn Beck predicted all of this a few months ago!

  • http://www.facebook.com/sofia.mcnabb.9 Sofia McNabb

    Keep God close and read his words for comfort.

  • Anonymous

    It matters significantly which group we go after. Would you suggest we arbitrarily strike back without discretion? Killing to kill isn’t effective and it’s inhumane and well beneath a free and “christian” country. Lead through strength doesn’t mean lead by bullheaded anger.

  • new2la

    How about two years ago?

  • Anonymous

    At the time of the end the king of the South (Middle East,led by Iran) will engage him in battle (talking about the king of the North) and the king of the North (Europe, led by Germany) will storm out against him (Blitzkrieg) with chariots (modern war machinery, tanks, fighter jets etc) and cavalry and a great fleet of ships. He will invade many countries (Middle East first) and sweep through them like a flood. He will also invade the Beautiful Land (Jerusalem). Many countries will fall (Mark well that info – I will come back to this verse 41 later below) but Edom (Turkey), Moab (Saudi Arabia),and the leaders of Ammon (Jordan) will be delivered from his hand. He will extend his power over many countries; Egypt will not escape. He will gain control over all the treasuries of gold and silver and all the riches of Egypt, with the Libyans and Ethiopians in submission. But reports from the east and the north will alarm him (Asia, led by Russia and China)and he will set out in great rage to destroy and annihilate many. He will pitch his royal tents between the seas at the beautiful holy mountain (Mount of Olives) Yet he will come to his end, (Christs 2nd coming) and no one will help him. Daniel 11:40-45

    It looks like the Egyptians are now completely in the sphere of the Iranians, also as of yesterdays attack on America in Libya, it’s probably safe to say, that part of Daniels prophecy has also been fulfilled – the part to keep a watch for is Ethiopia. Currently, their president has brain cancer and isn’t expected to live very long. Who then will fill the void in his absence. Now only one third of Ethiopia is of the Islamic faith and a full two thirds is Christian. But in news reports over the past several weeks indicate that it is the radical Islamist who are quickly assuming control of the state. That part of Daniels prophecy may be nearer than we realize, especially considering how fast events in the middle east have progressed over the past few months.

    This prophecy in Daniel – and its for the later days – mysteriously omits the (king of the West) WHY. Well, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that this ‘King’ is the United States of America.

    And, the very political maneuvering the Democrats have displayed in recent weeks and months have changed this nations constitution, leaving us venerable from lack of political understanding and wisdom on Obama’s part.

    This years presidential election will probably end with riots in our major cities, which will spread like wildfire across our nation, leaving us venerable and wide open to foreign attack.

    I said I would get back to verse 41 in Daniel (above) and the reason the book of Daniel doesn’t mention the “king of the West” is because one of the nations that the king of the north destroys is us – America.

    This prophecy is working itself out in the news headlines before our very eyes each and every day, watch for Ethiopia to soon fall under the sway of Iran and Egypt . Watch for Israel to go to Germany for help, because America has turned its head away from helping them. That will spell Israels doom – for the king of the North will double crosses the Jews after their armies have been placed around the city of Jerusalem. So keep your eye out for European armies to encircle Jerusalem in the very near future on behalf (supposedly) of Israels invitation.

    Time is short indeed and running out swiftly.

  • new2la

    Cairo….how about some tear gas from the air, to give them a real reason for anger?

  • Anonymous

    Of course Iran has been attacking Israel. By being the champion of the Palestinian cause Iran can claim to be a leader in the region and also prevent Arab governments from working against them, but they also worked with Israel for a long period of time. Panarabism worried both Israel and Iran, and Israel’s defense policy of a periphery alliance network (make allies out of all the states on the periphery of the arab nations) led to their friendship with Turkey, and although not formally acknowledged most people knew about their ongoing relationship (tenuous but cooperative).

    Only Hezbollah is an Iranian proxy, and they operate largely independently as a mostly Lebanese nationalist organization.
    As to Iran having discussions with Egypt, states in the same region usually have diplomatic relations, as a fledgling government Egypt needs to establish relationships etc. A concern for both is probably the potential of Israeli aggression (the question of justification for Israeli aggression is a different matter, but it is something they’d both be worried about) which would lead to a dialogue between nations.

    As to your war. First and foremost it is a war we would likely lose (and a war the rest of the world would not support us on and would reasonably take actions to prevent our engaging in it), second it is a war that would cost too many American lives even if won. And after you win, if you win then what? The transnationalists only give a crap about us b/c we prop up governments they don’t like in Muslim countries and they realize in order to topple those governments they have to beat us. If we didn’t mess with them they wouldn’t be messing with us, in the cold war we had to, now it’s just a power trip.

    The actions of a few individuals or even something as ridiculously large as 20% of a country does not represent the majority of a region. When Americans die it makes the news, when other muslims are harmed or fight back against these groups it’s ignored (understandably so it doesn’t make for great ratings).

    During Ottoman rule and even prior to that the Middle East was fairly stable when compared with the rest of the world. The current instability did not being until the fall of the Ottoman Empire after World War I and the beginning of the mandate period. So this is a fairly recent phenomena

  • Anonymous

    Herbert W Armstrong guided by God, revealed this and much much more about end-time biblical events over 70 years ago, to a cynical world who recently emerged victorious in WWII only months before – go figure, God is alive and gives understanding to those who seek him out.

  • Anonymous

    God will send messengers, but it is up to us to listen. Amen.

  • Anonymous

    It was two years ago, agreed.

  • Anonymous

    Your news of current world events should be updated using the sure word of prophecy. Much of what you suggest is just that, either by those who taught you or something coming from within your own head – either way, it is found to be lacking when placed beside the very words of God.

    Nations are destroyed for weakness and lack of preparedness. That is where America finds herself today, especially under the administration of Obama’s liberal left. Seems we Americans never learn from history. Our nation would sooner go to war against itself, then with any worthy foreign opponent and In the age of instant annihilation – unlike WWII – there would be no time to recover from any initial nuclear attack. It would devastate us, it would set us back to the stone age – if not finish us off first hand.

    These are the rules of engagement in today’s new hostile world – we though, would rather sit around on our duffs watching American Idle or some infomercial. While our worst enemies go nuclear. Hillary Clinton feels that our aid to Egypt should be increased, that is not sound thinking and we who happen to live in this nation are in trouble – big trouble!

    We claim to be the leader of the free world when we cannot even lead our own families, or communities, nor our states and especially not our federal government. This can be easily witnessed by the lack of response Obama and team Biden have thus far dealt with towards Egypt – Libya and now today – Yemen and many other nations are taking note.

    The enemy of my enemy is my friend – that is Iran’s foreign policy allowing any and all radical religious groups to jump on board and join in on the mayhem of our new chaotic world.

  • new2la

    Is that what you got from my post…to arbitrarily strike back? Even I know how a good General thinks and so do the ones we have in command. The question is, does Obama?

  • Anonymous

    …and if the Republicans loose – ? – what becomes important then – 2016…after a while, one simply cannot afford not to confront stupidity – meet it at the door of wisdom and tell it like it is.

    We must believe in rational thought and if that is what remains in the progressive camp, anything else is nation busting propaganda and lies.

  • new2la

    It’s been over a year since Glenn left Fox….Once he announced he was leaving, I started taping the remaing shows. It may even be Closer to three years he said it.

  • Anonymous

    I love Daniel. Thanks for your post. It’s almost like seeing The Writing on the Wall.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know where you are getting your information, but it is dead wrong. Apparently, you don’t remember 1998. Al Qaeda had just blown up two of our embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania and Nairobi, Kenya. The attacks happened on August 7th, 1998 and on August 28th, President Clinton launched a series of cruise missile attacks and bombing runs, known as Operation Infinite Reach, against Afghanistan and Sudan. In this case, we KNOW that the terrorists came from Egypt and Libya. At the very least, instantaneous suspension of foreign aid to these countries should be initiated, NOT apologies. Your reasoning is the same as the president’s and it’s wrong. Terrorists simply cannot be appeased. They do not care whether some nutjob in Florida made a video about Islam that is uncomplimentary. They see the president’s refusal to take action as weakness. He already supported the Arab Spring and it has turned into a disaster worse than what the dictators who previously held the reins of power ever perpetrated upon their people. Attempts to appease terrorists results in only one thing – MORE terrorism. Nobody is suggesting dropping bombs on Egypt and Libya, but that SHOULD be the case if they even blink and attempt to do what Pakistan is doing…harboring terrorists under official state protection. Obama’s foreign policy is what led to this in the first place. He can place all the blame on George Bush he wants to, but that tune ended a long time ago. When countries know of a certainty that these actions lead to serious consequences and they know beyond the shadow of a doubt that we wish nothing more than friendship, but will respond to attack with a rain of death, they have to think twice.

    Your belief that Iran’s nuclear program is peaceful and they would never drop a nuclear bomb is born of the same lack of thought of your current comment. Both Ahmadinejad and Ali Khamanel have repeatedly announced to the world that the second that they are able to do so, they will launch a nuclear attack against Israel. They are Shia. They believe that the Twelfth Imam will return and lead them in the destruction of their enemies, but only if they sweep Israel from the face of the earth. That is the official word from the highest levels of the Iranian government. They know the consequences. They believe that an attack on Israel will hasten the time of the return of the Imam, therefore, removing those consequences. Just what do they have to say or do to get your attention?

    Your beliefs are based on superficial tripe and demonstrate the finished product of the public school system. They DO NOT THINK LIKE US. Get it?

  • VindicatorX

    It’s an idea whose time has come. IF we ignore them and leave without dealing with them like liberals want to believe is possible, they will come and get us like they proved on 09/11/01. If this President doesn’t take action, like it looks like he won’t because it cuts into his fundraising and campaigning it’s not going to matter – that will assure his defeat as it did for Carter. Even if he acts at this point he is not going to win – he lost the election when he decided to reach into the American public’s pockets with his health care scam.

    I just think we need to get down to business with these extremists once and for all. We’ve been soft pedaling them for eleven years, and where has it gotten us?

  • VindicatorX

    I can hardly wait!

  • VindicatorX

    Thinking like yours is what got us where we are now with these people. They want to kill us no matter what, are you thinking they will change if we just “give peace a chance”???

    These people want to rule the world over your dead body – are you willing to let them? That is what you are saying; go back and read it for yourself.

    Being a veteran I can tell you the only way to treat hostiles is with hostility if you want to be left standing when the battle is over, and make no mistake about it, they mean to bring the battle. There is no peace with them, no negotiation, no settlement, nothing but annihilation will stop them. They need to be subjected to such a dramatic and severe amount of violence that they can never amass the power to operate as a hostile force again, and if that means they have to die, then that is what it means.

    Your defeatist, “frankly going to war with an entire region is not worth it, and is probably a war that we can’t win.”, attitude is only going to mean the end of America and the western civilized way of life.

    Thank God real Soldiers, Marines, Airmen, and Sailors don’t ascribe to your philosophical wallowing, “Too many soldiers who didn’t need to die have already died in American history.”. I never met or served with anyone who was such a defeatist as you. No one who ever died in defense of this country ever died needlessly – that is an insulting myth promoted by those people who wouldn’t serve their fellow citizens because their precious life was too important to them to pitch in and fight like everyone else. We call those people cowards, and you must also be one.

    I have news for you – we are already in a war with them, I say it’s time we acted like it and gave them all the war they can possibly stand. Otherwise, if people like you get their way, this will go on forever.

    Is that what you want? A protracted series of attacks until one day they manage to wipe us out? That is what their goal is. It’s not about Muslims or any other religion – it is about world dominance and the sooner people like you figure that out, the better off you will be.

  • Anonymous

    You clearly don’t know what you are talking about. And why does everything have to be “conservative” or “spin”? I see things in terms of truth, and falsehood. And Obama and his ridiculous foreign policy is damn false.
    First things first: Democracy is a western idea, that was formulated out of centuries of trial and error. Besides, democracy is nothing but mob rule, and what should be more correctly sought is representative republics- which is what the United States really is. But more to the point- to think that democracy and Islam are compatible is infantile at best; moronic at worst. ‘Arab Spring’. Give me a break. These are coordinated attacks, by (despite the idiocy of Obama’s cabinet) a very NON moderate group called the Muslim Brotherhood. Far from it. these radicals are wolves in sheeps clothing. Luring in until the guard is down, and then they will attack.
    The argument has been made, rather successfully I believe, that Islam respects force (ironic considering they hide behind towels when they behead people and commit acts of terrorism), and that Clinton’s absolute refusal to put ‘boots on the ground’ and instead use tomahawk cruise missiles encouraged the attack on the USS Cole, and furthermore prompted the attack of the Trade Center on 9/11.
    Now, before you get your progressive panties all twisted in a knot, that is not saying that Clinton directly caused these attacks; however Al Qaida themselves publicly stated that they were emboldened by Clinton’s refusal to commit ground forces that gave them the ‘green light’ to attack the Cole.
    Obama has taken this dove-ish, love-in approach to foreign policy too far. Carter was horrendous. Under Carter the Middle East felt secure in testing and attacking us. For 30 years things have been relatively secure. Now, under Obama, we see a resurgence of this insanity and probing.
    And you think this is all just political, partisan posturing. Sheesh…
    Muslim nations are not compatible with democracy and liberty. Muslim nations have been given the option to vote (Iran, Turkey, Palestine, now Libya and Egypt) of late, and every time, EVERY time, they vote for an oppressive, theistic, government run by religious dictators.
    Those “moderate” muslims liberals love to talk about….go find me one in Egypt. Or Libya. You can’t. Because those that speak out against despotic regimes are either dead or too scared that they will be killed next so the radicals have free rein.
    “Moderate” muslims. Yeah, like any “moderate” would kill people over a cartoon. Or a movie. But, what about when some “artist” places the crucifix in urine and calls in “art”? Or a statue of Mary in elephant dung? I’m supposed to be tolerant of that, huh? It’s art, after all.
    Gimme a break.
    The apology tour is not working. That’s not partisan, its truth.
    Meanwhile, Obama has time to go on 60 minutes, some silly Miami radio station, David Letterman…but can’t seem to find the time to meet with the Prime Minister of Israel?!?!?!?
    A freakin’ representative of the United States was killed by cowards and butchers, and he can’t be bothered to take time out of his popularity tour to speak with our only reliable ally in the region (and perhaps the planet)?!?!?!?!?!?!?
    Methinks that if anyone here has an agenda you might need to look in the mirror. All of that “tolerance” doesn’t seem to be working when it doesn’t agree with you.

  • Anonymous

    But I thought that the “Arab Spring” was a good thing. That’s what the media wanted us to believe. That those poor little Libyans and Egyptians just want to be free from dictators like Mubarak and Qaddafi. Well, guess what? Now that their free, what are they doing with it?
    Killing American diplomats, and raiding embassy’s with more “protests” scheduled.
    Amazing, isn’t it? Using a ridiculous movie to paint with a wide brush and accuse an entire nation of being responsible for? And even worse, having a President that apologizes for it on our behalf? What complete and utter nonsense. Obama apologizes so much for America, I wonder what we’ve done wrong in his view that he feels the need to apologize.
    This whole “open glove” policy is plain naive. Iran is marching forward with towards nuclear weapons (with which it WILL use against Israel to hasten the return of the Mahdi, as they openly declare every time that rat is in NY at the UN), and our President has nothing to say. Sanctions. Sanctions, my hind quarters.
    What don’t you get that a US AMBASSADOR WAS KILLED?!?!?!?!?
    You and the lame stream media act as if this was just another day. And on 9/11?!?!?!?!?!? Obama can invite the Muslim Brotherhood to THE WHITE HOUSE but can’t find the time to meet with the Israeli PRIME MINISTER!?!?!?!? The only country in the entire region that has our back?!?!?!?!?!?
    The whole region is already a shit storm. A coming caliphate. Egypt voting for a terrorist group? Iran marching towards nukes. Libya biting the hand that helped them (why is nobody questioning where the thanks is for helping them get rid of Qaddafi? Where is the appreciation?). Oh, wait. Obama wanted us to “lead from behind” so maybe the EU should be thanked first.
    Yemen now rioting. More planned. Stay tuned.
    These people can’t handle democracy. They are only capable of supporting tyranny.
    We need to act swiftly and strongly and send the towel-headed cowards that do these types of things back into their caves.
    This appeasing President, who bows to Saudi princes, is selling us down the river.
    If we don’t do something, who will?

  • Anonymous

    huh? “…what remains in the progressive camp,…anything else is…propaganda and lies”. what point are you trying to make? that progressives (an oxymoron) have better ideas?
    That sounds like insanity right there.

  • Anonymous

    Amen, brother. This appeasement garbage is a total failure; as I knew it would be. You don’t appease people just waiting for the right chance to kill you.
    I think that we need to hit them with the culture wars. SImilar to fighting communism in the 60′s, you don’t fight it with guns. You fight it with ideas. Bread lines versus 24/7 Super Walmarts with 50 different kinds of bread. No imbecile would openly support communism when offered true capitalism.
    Likewise, these religious zealots should be inundated with western culture.

  • Anonymous

    I’m saying they aren’t capable of ruling the world over my dead body unless we’re stupid and reactionary enough to give them credibility and make ourselves appear as “the great satan” to the majority of the people.
    It’s not about give peace a chance, but establishing stable governments in those countries will go a lot further to promote peace and stability than revenge. That’s not to say we don’t try to get the assholes that did this, but we proceed with caution and consider every viable option and every possible outcome.

    It is a war we couldn’t win. The area is too vast and the longer we fought the greater strength our enemies would have, resentment towards us would grow in the region and we would only be creating more terrorists with a full scale war. Our military has also not historically shown much ability in combating guerilla tactics, and any war in the long run would only be bad for the united states around the world and would severely hurt the already tremendous debt.

    My point is, at the moment there are not enough of them to wipe us out and the military option is not the best way to combat terrorist organizations operating in countries with fledgling governments who are attempting to establish legitimacy.

  • Anonymous

    as to my point on dying needlessly. Our country has misused the military a number of times for matters that weren’t defending our nation. Being willing to die for the country is enough, that doesn’t mean we have no wasted their lives before with unnecessary and fruitless wars

  • Anonymous

    Did you not see the hundreds of Libyans who came out to protest the attacks and support America?
    As a citizen of a free country I believe whenever a dictator is overthrown it is a good thing. There is going to be turmoil, that’s what happens when a government is overthrown. The terrorists especially see this as an opportunity, if we strike back and kill anyone who shouldn’t be killed by mistake they we only help the terrorist cause b/c they only win if we hand the hearts and minds of the people over to them. The people don’t have to like us, but they do need to like the new government.
    The apology for the movie by email was sent before the attacks, and apologizing to muslims not involved in the attacks is still ok.

    At church every sunday we say in prayer (at least at mine and most catholic and episcopal churches and presumeably many others) “we await his coming in glory”, that doesn’t mean we’re wanting to bring about the end of the world. A view of Iranian history shows that while the revoluntionary rhetoric has never completely died down they have become a significantly more pragmatic nation after the death of Khomeini largely thanks to Rafsanjani who recently gave an intervew in which he was very critical of Ahmedinejad. The point is even the government of Iran is not united and they certainly aren’t the suicidal lunatics we paint them to be.
    “ISrael and the U.S. need to establish a broader strategic relationship with Iran” Shimon Peres 1986. In 1986 the Iranians were significantly more ideological than they are now, but Peres knew we could work with them and encouraged Reagan to ignore their rhetoric. Their tune changed in 1991 when we decimated the Iraqi military and Iran and Israel no longer had a mutual enemy to fear and work together against so now suddenly they were the two nations in the region vying for power and Iran became suicidal maniacs despite their efforts in 2003 and reach a diplomatic solution to the nuclear issue that we just ignored.

    We should do something, but that something shouldn’t be a military reaction if it can be at all avoided. The terrorists don’t attack b/c they think they can kill us all, they want us to strike back b/c if we seem like the aggressor it’s the only way they’ll have support.

  • Anonymous

    Prophecy should never be used to interpret anything. It is prophecy, if the facts fit fine, but you should never change or ignore facts simply b/c they don’t fit.

    You seriously overestimate the potential impact of a nuclear strike, devastating yes, but most of us would still be here.

  • Anonymous

    By immediate strike I’m talking within a week before we’re able to gather information and compose ourselves, the example you gave was a couple of weeks after the attack and pin point strike.
    There are tons of people on this thread suggesting just bombing the place, a i’ve found one who thinks we should go to war with the whole region.

    We should not punish the governments for something they didn’t do, especially by decreasing their ability to combat that same thing. If we want peace in the region and a decrease in terrorism we need to support these governments and make them legitimate and stable.
    I am not suggesting appease the terrorists but we should avoid striking militarily if at all possible. After the cold war and the mandate period the entire region is very sensitive to the sense of foreign influence from the west, it was probably a factor in Iraq though that was mostly Shia’s wanting revenge on the Sunnis for the last few decades and the Sunnis trying to keep their position of power.

    The idea of Iran starting a nuclear war, while maybe consistent with their rhetoric, is not consistent with their actions especially since the Rafsanjani and Khatami presidencies. Rafsanjani, one of the most influential politicians in Iran, recently called out Ahmedinijad as being an idiot who has mismanaged the entire nuclear situation. Iran’s number 1 goal has always been to be a regional power, the best way to do that is get a nuke b/c once you get a nuke suddenly the world takes you seriously.
    The Iranian government is severely divided right now and Ahmadinejad will finish his final term as president as a lame duck executive. It’s not hard to believe a diplomatic solution can’t be reached, we’ve had opportunities in the past that we missed and we really can’t afford to miss the next one.

    I attended public high school and go to a private university. My iranian education has been largely on my own involving lots of primary sources.

  • Anonymous

    you said it doesn’t matter which group…suggesting you don’t give a crap if we bomb the right people

  • TylerDurden

    You are correct. Obama has sworn to find and bring the attackers to justice. Stark contrast to Reagan, who pulled out of Lebanon after Marine barracks were attacked.

  • Anonymous

    Did someone wake-up on the wrong side of the twilight-zone….Now how might “you” answer that question….”Methinks so”….

    Maosucks the problem with many a conservative is the same problem many progressives have failed to figure out…jumping the gun…jumping to conclusions…. not listening…and presuming everything said coming from anyone having a slightly differing opinion from yours, is legal game leaving one prostrate to be ripped apart and treated as if they’re an idiot….But… many a time, especially when one jumps the gun and that certain individual presumes to know what they are talking about….. it is they who look the fool.

    So lets go over your piece (above) and see how far apart we are in our thinking and how we might differ.

    “I clearly do not know what I’m talking about” – lets use this opening line from your post as a pretext for my argument.

    1) I too see things in terms of – right vrs wrong. – we agree

    2) I also think that Obama’s foreign policy doesn’t stand a chance, nor does the man have the slightest clue. – we agree

    3) I have studied the Middle East for decades now, never….not once, did the thought ever ever cross my mind, that a democratic government (in any form) would ever work in that war torn region of planet earth, especially in the Islamic world where a false idea of God is dictated over the population by “godless power hungry men” – again we agree

    4) Months ago, when Mubarak was being softened-up to be tossed under the bus (by Obama &Co) – portrayed not only as an evil dictator, but ruthless toward his own people, it was my voice that stood behind the thirty year ally of the US and many conservatives argued against me – It was Mr Mubarak who warned the US of exactly what we seeing transpire across the Mid East region today, that “the Muslim Brotherhood would not be friendly toward the US”. Had Obama listened to the wisdom of this mans words…words of experience, it could have boosted his own foreign policy experience and at least, give the world a shred of evidence, that he might know what he is doing from time to time. – so we agree again

    5) I think Regan said it best…”Peace through strength” – that pretty much sums it upl…especially in that area – in fact, one could argue – its the only language they understand. – so once again we agree…batting 100

    6) “Progressive Panties in a wad”…now that statement I just simply will not tolerate…now I’ve been called many things before and that is a first…no truthfully, most who read my posts would equate me to the “ultra conservative far right” because I believe in traditional America, where Capitalism has served us well now for over 200 yrs. Where, one achieves his successes through life, from hard work and diligence, being responsible and helping the little ol lady cross the road safely – not because you want to rob her on the other side. To treat others, as you yourself would wish to be treated. To give to those less fortunate than myself, not be forced by my own government, to pay for some lazy ass welfare sluggard, who could give a shit.

    I could go on with this letter, but by now, I’m hoping at least, that you get my drift – we are in a life and death struggle to save our nation and it looks as if we may actually have to go to war with ourselves, because of the absolute division our nation finds itself in. The progressives are throwing away everything our forefathers ever fought and died for – winning the Revolution made this nation who we are – winning the Civil war made this nation who we are – winning two World Wars made this nation who we are – and every skirmish in between – has helped shape us and has made this country great. Our history is who we are. And Now, Obama simply refers to every ounce of blood ever spilled throughout our nations past – “out of date” and in “dire need of revamping and change” Smirking as he trashes our fundamental code of conducting affairs, found in the best document ever written by the hand of man – the US Constitution.

    So in ending, I see you’ve also mentioned “tolerance” – you may want to exercise a little yourself – if we are ever going to win over the opposition, the definition of that word is sorely needed.

    Now just in case you still do not get my former reply to your post – it was “a lighter moment of hummer” – go back and reread it, then, if you still don’t get it – as I often must do with my sister… when she doesn’t understand a joke, – write me back and I will explain it to you in full, but for some reason, explaining jokes – always ruins the punchline. Have a nice day and try not to get your panties in a wad…..Z

  • Anonymous

    Does anyone find it curious that America is being blamed for a disgusting film that was created by Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, who was born in EGYPT!! Is it possible that this was purposely done in America to stir up more anti-American sentiment???

  • Anonymous

    Good reply. But the religious leaders of Iran are in this for life. They are the real power in Iran, not the president. While there have been power struggles in the past, the Mullahs eventually, always win. Ahmadinejad as a lame duck president is even more scary. Human nature has a tendency toward fatalism when great power is about to be removed. Ahmadinejad literally has nothing to lose. The fact is, the Iranians gain nothing by continually threaten nuclear strikes without being fully committed. Israel cannot take the chance. We may not feel the threat here in the US, but Israel is surrounded on every side by those who would, in a heartbeat, use any means at their disposal to destroy them and sweep them from the face of the earth.

    President Obama has made a serious mistake in his foreign policy approach. Not a singe country in the Middle East fears us. His apologies and appeasements have done nothing more than embolden state sponsored terrorism. I agree that going off half cocked and bombing Egypt and Libya is the wrong approach, but they should also understand the consequences for allowing continued attacks on our embassies. The guards who helped the terrorists should be very publicly executed and the leaders of those countries should take a “no quarter” stand against terrorism if they are ever going to be restored to the world power club.

    Obama has further continued his treasonous behavior by sending messages to Iran that if they attack Israel, we won’t stand in their way. This has, as with all his other foreign policy fiascos, given the Iranians proof that the US no longer stands with Israel. This will lead to more insane behaviors on their part. The danger this has brought to Israel is incalculable. It also dramatically increases the chances of a preemptive attack by Israel and a much, much shorter fuse to nuclear warfare. This causes an ever more destabilized Middle East. The net effect leads to precipitous action on the parts of people who are crazy enough to not care about the aftereffects of murdering millions of people because they believe that they will be hastening the world to Armageddon and that there will be no unacceptable consequences because Allah will sweep the infidel from the face of the earth.

    On a more practical front, the destabilization of the region will topple the world economy because the economy is based on oil. Even if Iran only disrupts the supply lines by attacking and mining the Straits of Hormuz, it will effect the same ultimate result – Armageddon.

  • new2la

    So if a group of nuns were responsible, we shouldn’t take actions just because they are nuns?

  • Anonymous

    Only the blind, deaf and dumb swallow your logic. Of course, one has to prove the bible before prophetic understanding is unlocked to that individuals mind, something it seems, you have not done for yourself. So for the time being, go on believing your own interpretation of reality and when prophecy is fulfilled before your very eyes – afterward, someone having wisdom to unlock its secrets will explain things to you in much greater detail.

    If not for the return of Jesus Christ – in the coming years – all life on this planet would be lost…try and convince the one who created you, just how dangerous nuclear bombs are.

  • VindicatorX

    Tripe from a person with no personal fortitude to make a stand isn’t very convincing, and it is what has gotten us where we are today. It’s this President and his failures that have this out of control situation going on.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jansher.khan.56679 Jansher Khan

    9/11 was done by usa……..watch many videos on youtube… refer to those videos plz.. babies…!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Excellent argument – someone has their eyes open.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rodolfo-Torres-Jr/100001968829510 Rodolfo Torres Jr.

    I AGREE 100 PERCENT WITH GLEN BECK ON WHAT HE SAYS ABOUT OBAMA….