How did Reagan win the debate against Carter?

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The media was hammering him as stupid and old and he didn’t do a very good job in the first debate with President Carter. So how was Reagan able to turn things around? Glenn explained on radio this morning.

“I want to tell you the story of Ronald Reagan and how he won the debate against Jimmy Carter. You know, we were living in a time very similar. People didn’t think that Ronald Reagan could handle it and the media was hammering Ronald Reagan. Now the media was also hammering Jimmy Carter. You know, they had ‑‑ that’s why Ted Koppel, we even went on the air because Ted Koppel started “Nightline” and it was just ‑‑ it was just about the hostage crisis. That’s all it was. But Jimmy Carter was winning. And Jimmy Carter was very good at the first debate and at that first debate he made Ronald Reagan look like he didn’t know what he was talking about. Because Jimmy Carter was a bureaucrat. Ronald Reagan was an idea guy, which is much more in line with the American people, the ideas, not the policy wonk stuff,” Glenn explained.

“This is again one of the differences between the election then and the election now because Barack Obama is definitely not a wonk. He can’t even tell you that the debt is at $16 trillion, not 10. He is just about an idea, and his idea happens to be out of step with the American people. His idea is about redistribution of wealth and socialism and that the buck stops with you. But he is so good at being the big picture idea guy that Americans just kind of go along with it. Romney needs to inspire. He needs to inspire and he needs to quickly explain things to the American people. He needs to find ways to explain how he’s going to create jobs. That shouldn’t be too hard, but you’re going to need a good storyteller, a good ‑‑ somebody who knows how to package things,” Glenn said.

“Back in 1980 that man was Roger Ailes. Roger Ailes was a guy who was at the time a political guy. I mean, he went in and he was the one who helped Nixon in the 1960s. He was a producer on the Mike Douglas Show and he was I think the youngest producer and that was the first talk show and there was a guy sitting in the makeup chair and he was putting on makeup, they were putting the makeup on and he was talking about how much he hated television and television was just this passing fad. And Mr. Ailes was standing behind him and I don’t even know how young he was. He was young at this point. And he was standing behind him and he said, I’m sorry, Mr. Vice President, but television will either make you or break you. And if you ever want to have a future in politics again, you’re going to need to learn how to do television.”

“Well, about a year or so later, Nixon decided he was going to run for president and he called Roger Ailes and said, ‘Will you help me? You teach me how to do television.’ And that’s what he did. And he became a political consultant. Now comes to 1980 and Reagan is losing and he lost the first debate because Carter could talk about all of these policies. He could talk about, you know, the farm subsidy bills and everything else. And Reagan was like, I don’t even know what he’s talking about. I don’t know all these subsidies and these programs. And Roger came in to him and said, Mr. President ‑‑ or Mr. Reagan, you have ‑‑ you have good news and bad news. The bad news is you just got your butt kicked. But here’s the good news. You can win. You can win. Reagan said how. He said, I don’t mean this to be a slam. This is why the American people like you and this is why you’re going to be so effective. You really, everything that you talk about really can all be summed up in about five things, and I don’t remember what those five things were but they were basically, you know, communism is evil and we have to have a strong military. The government and its overregulation is the problem, and the solution is the people.”

“So he gave him those five things, whatever they were, and he said all you have to do is just talk about those five things because no matter what is brought up, you can answer that question with one of those five things and those are the things the American people want to hear and what they like about you. And he said, you can articulate, you don’t need anybody to help you on that. You already know those. And so he role played with Reagan. And Reagan said farm subsidy bill. He said, I believe government is the problem. I believe in the farmers and the American people. And if we would just get out of the way of the American people, the farmers will be fine because the farm he is know how to plant. The farmers know how to do it. The government doesn’t. How do they know in Washington? I imagine that meeting ended with smiles all around and the next debate, ‘Well, there he goes again.’ And Reagan crushed him and that was the end.”

“The reason I bring up this story is Pat and I were talking the other day about what Romney needs to do in the election and I’m like, “I don’t think he can politically consult or would politically consult anybody anymore, but I wish he would.” If there was a way that you could just say, ‘Hey, magic fairy dust, resign for about four hours from Fox and then resign up, you know, later that afternoon, consult.’ Or if Romney would just read the stories of what this man said. Roger Ailes is one of the smartest guys. He knows the American people. He knows the American people unlike I think anybody else does. He knows them and he can boil things down and I don’t know who that guy is now that can do that. That’s what Roger used to do, still does at Fox.”

“Who is that guy? Who can boil them down for the American people and teach that to Romney? Because Romney, he’s got to appeal to the regular person. I mean, how many people do you talk to and you’re like, I don’t know, I don’t know if there’s a difference. There is a huge difference.”

“So what does that tell you? That tells you the American people are not really paying attention. They don’t know who this guy is. ‘I don’t know, there’s no difference.’ They don’t know who Barack Obama is because if they think Barack Obama is just like their beer buddy that they have beers with, they couldn’t be more wrong. I contend most Americans, if you got to know the real Barack Obama and you were in his inner circle and you heard his friends and how they talk and what they say about America and the military and everything else, I contend the vast majority of Americans would despise Barack Obama as a friend.”

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Reagan did it the most basic of ways; boil down the complex to simple terms anyone can grasp and understand. Romney needs to do the same; basic principles, plans laid out in simple, understandable means for all to see and hear.

    Mind you, Americans are not stupid; the government loves complexity to a degree even they cannot grasp what they are talking about.

  • Anonymous

    Nothing against you Ron, because I truly love you bud, but Carter could have debated an empty chair and lost. – Hey is Billy Beer still available?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHETWQlwxfg&feature=share&list=PL5FABE780A13D231D Rahm Kota
  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHETWQlwxfg&feature=share&list=PL5FABE780A13D231D Rahm Kota

    It simple point out his record.

  • Anonymous

    Really funny stuff…thanx…Z

  • http://www.facebook.com/terence.noziglia Terence Noziglia

    There was no first debate with Carter, there was only one debate between Carter and Reagan, Glenn gets many “facts” like this wrong, you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

  • Anonymous

    This is why we need lots of people to start speaking up and demanding that Obama release his records (especially now that Romney has provided info on his taxes) so we can see the kind of philosophy and attitude he has for and about America and the role of government. We may even be able to find out who his real daddy is and if he really is an American.

  • Anonymous

    Inspire the individual. The person in business knows more than govt does. The person who is rich did it because they had a gift. The govt did not provide that gift. That gift comes from the document our founding fathers gave to us. Inspire these people to bring out the best of themselves and not rely on a govt that is spending money for what? Romney has a plan to CUT taxes FOR EVERYBODY by 20%. In the affordable care act, there is a plan to RAISE taxes on everybody. America, whatever tax rate you fall into do you want your taxes to go up? Do you want less money coming out of your paycheck each month? Did the current president not say your taxes, for those making under 200k, will not go up? America under this president they WILL!

  • http://www.facebook.com/dan.henry.9083 Dan Henry

    Point out that Barrack has “nothing” in his favor except a lofty idea that he says he can’t get done because the “republicans” won’t let him….everything he has done has had a negaive impact on this country, let Obama put his own foot in his mouth, say he has nothing and watch the fodder come spewing out, then analyze it and let the people know he’s lieing

  • http://www.facebook.com/dan.henry.9083 Dan Henry

    sorry about the spelling. “lying” it’s late

  • Anonymous

    five things will lose the election for romney: attention span; motivation; intelligence; snap card; theft.

    the young electorate has the attention span of a commercial;
    the young electorate is lazy w/the attitude that it’s cool to be so;
    the young electorate is not that bright
    the young and old electorate gets a serious amount of financial aide from government.
    the president will steal the election.

    bho understands the above and will fund out of our tax dollars for young and old folks to be bussed in on election day. only until they’ve been walked directly up to the booth and after they’ve voted will they get paid.

    thousands of ballots from non-existents, dead people and illegals are being filled out for bho as i write.

    bho uses a teleprompter because he is an actor whose phrasing is artful. the fact that he attended ivy league universities enhances his appeal because this makes people think he’s smart.

  • Anonymous

    w/regard to the above, i know i’m right w/one exception:

    there is no way i could know for certain that romney will loose.

  • http://www.facebook.com/matthewehowe Matt Howe

    Get your facts straight my friend. Two debates occurred in 1980 between Reagan and Carter. September 21 and October 28 respectively.

  • new2la

    Obama has lots going for him…..he has the entire democrat party/media and the entitlement groups lying for him. But they don’t have someone very important on their side. And He has the final word.

  • greywolfrs

    You better get some facts before calling someone else a liar. All the information is there, this is the internet age, yet you spout uninformed stupidity. That is about as stupid as one can get, there you are.

  • greywolfrs

    SHHHHH…….Facts are a foreign concept to left wing trolls.

  • Anonymous

    That is why there are thousands of pages in obamacare, non of them can read it.Why did nancy p. say (if you want to know what is in the bill, you will have to pass it)?

  • new2la

    Dan, you can go back and edit your posts. Sometimes I don’t see my errors until I see the post in full. Click on edit.

  • cratewasher

    How did Reagan win? Simple – he was no Mitt Romney.
    The GOP has gone rancid – the only way to build is to reject the candidates that they are offering at every level. If you are a real conservative, you must start now to rebuild the party. A vote for Gary Johnson will do that.
    Even Ron Paul says that Romney would be worse than Obama.

  • cratewasher

    Reagan was closer to Obama’s philosophy than he is to Romney’s arrogance.
    Obama is your next Reagan.

  • cratewasher

    Only problem is Romney in simple terms = more deficit and troops back to Iraq.
    That’s why he must lie and try class war (oh, and kill voter turnout) – it’s his only chance.

  • cratewasher

    Yea! Got Bin Laden, Saved GM.

  • cratewasher

    Romney: If elected, I will immediately turn over Yellowstone Park to Israel to build new settlements!

  • cratewasher

    Gary Johnson 2012!
    Romney and Obama are nearly the same guy.

  • cratewasher

    I’ll take the candidate who will govern most like Ronald Reagan.
    That would be Obama.

  • cratewasher

    Obama more like Reagan than Romney. Romney is more like your Santorum, Bush or Bachman.
    http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/story/2011-11-03/jobs-and-the-presidential-election/51065798/1

  • Anonymous

    Romney cannot inspire anything but contempt. Even the GOP knew it from the beginning. Sorry, y’all. You already lost. Your people picked the wrong guy. If you had gone with Ron Paul you might had a chance. This guy, R-money, lost the election the day he received his name. So he probably lost since before he was born. We all here are having a big laugh every time Glenn says “We can win” with his voice almost not gathering enough energy to leave his mouth.

  • Lioness

    Most of us on the right, ya know the ones who are not going to be to high to get out of bed on election day, know that it really doesn’t really matter who is opposing Obama on the ballot. Anything aside from an out and out dictator who loathes this country, even if it’s a doorstop will have a chance to win. So just keep laughing, if Obama does win, the joke would definitely be on all of us. That includes all of your delusional buddies who think that America will remain a place of freedom for you to espouse your stupidity.

  • Lioness

    Read Obama’s book “Dreams from my Father”, Obama hates Regan. Stop smoking the pot man, it’s making you delusional. Usually you don’t emulate those you dislike, Obama does not like or respect Regan or his policies. Obama’s actions make that pretty obvious, but he also wrote it in his own words if you need any proof.

  • Lioness

    Take some time to read the parallels between this election and the one against Carter. It’s uncanny, many of the same tactics are being used to dupe the morons such as yourself, but fortunately for Regan despite what people considered his pitfalls, he still won simply because the sitting president was a nightmare for the country. Obama is worse, unlike Carter who actually lived his altruistic ideals, Obama can’t even pretend to hide his overly extravagant lifestyle. All those who thought he was going to take away all their troubles should be loathing him for living like the king he wants to be, while their expenses rise.

  • Lioness

    A vote for Gary Johnson, is a vote to eradicate the libertarian movement. When freedom is completely abolished, the libertarian movement will cease to exist. Obama is worse for our country than the status quo, he will completely decimate this country.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHETWQlwxfg&feature=share&list=PL5FABE780A13D231D Rahm Kota

    Did this troll really say that? I guess this guy didn’t hear him say these things.
    http://youtu.be/DIwAQpogvSA
    http://youtu.be/wnrwW_zEahU

  • cratewasher

    A vote for Romney is a vote for Karl Rove and the same politics that broke this country. I’m better off than I was four years ago – I can vote my conscious (Gary Johnson) and know that, at worst, I’ve elected the lesser of two evils. The entire GOP should be punished for presenting their reactionary theocrat as presidential material.

  • cratewasher

    Yes Obama promised to be more progressive and he continued Bush policies. Yet, like Ron Paul says – Romney would be worse.

  • cratewasher

    This Troll has a name.

  • cratewasher

    Your Romney is no Ronald Reagan. Reagan actually cared about the fate of the American worker (though he was an imperialist just like Bush and Obama). My vote will be going to Gary Johnson. I will vote my conscious, and probably elect the lesser of two evils (Obama) – a win -win.
    Re boot GOP, and offer a real candidate instead of the bozos of the last two elections.

  • cratewasher

    Romney:
    On day 1, I will turn over Yellowstone Park to Israel so they can build new settlements.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHETWQlwxfg&feature=share&list=PL5FABE780A13D231D Rahm Kota

    Sorry I should not have said troll I thought she was talking to a left winger and not a libertarian. Forgive me sir.

  • landofaahs

    He told the truth about liberal democrats, that’s how. And the economy or lack thereof spoke for itself. nuff said.

  • Anonymous

    Reagan was a horrible President. He spent like a a progressive lib.

    GARY JOHNSON 2012.

  • Lioness

    Obama has his finger on your movement. I implore you to read his book. A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Hitler. His policies are mimicking Bush’s but he’s no Bush. He despises our country and he is convinced the white people have some imaginary hold on “his” people. He has sinister desires which could very well lead to communism or just the total destruction of our country. Do you really want to find out what he will have more “flexibility “ to do in regards to Russia, in his second term? Why does he seem to side with those who are not our allies while angering those who are? Why won’t he make our country energy independent? He goes out of his way to do this under the guise of needing “clean energy” as if he’s saving the planet from global warming while energy bills skyrocket. He will reduce our population through government health care and rationing, and cause massive poverty thorough his energy policies. He also doesn’t mind a little nuclear holocaust to even it all out. His true home is in the countries of Africa, he despises our way of life. Tell me how Romney compares to that?

  • Lioness

    It’s just another one of those Gary Johnson types trying to convince me of their principals. I’m almost finished reading Obama’s book and as someone who has always found interest in human nature. I am starting to really freak out. On it’s surface it sound nice, but what he is saying isn’t. Not to those who believe in America. It’s as nuts as one believing in a master race of blond hair and blue eyes. Like Hitler and his spite against Jewish people, he really hates white people, he believes we have some imaginary (at this point) power over black people, that they are just part of our world but that we really have all the control. He is consumed by this. It’s creepy.

  • Anonymous

    GM is still on life support and will probably be back in a year asking for more cash, and unless Obooboo jumped out of a helicopter in full tactical gear with an HK MP5 in the middle of the night, then the NAVY SEALS GOT HIM!!! NOT OBAMA!!

  • Eric Zeichert

    The left still underestimates Reagan, despite the fact that he cleaned their clocks in California, and nationally, and still inspires constitutional conservatives to this very day.
    Republican progressives can’t stand him either. Good.
    As for Mitt, there are a lot of similarities. First, Mitt is not an idiot, although Dems enjoy porttraying him as such. As long as they believe he is an idot, that is all for the best.
    The Democrats have also accused Mitt of murder, tax evasion animal cruelty and plotting near genocide against Hispanics, black Americans and anyone over 60, even though he is 67.

    So, why are all the polls showing this to be a dead heat? How much worse ammo could Soros and Obama have to barf up in October? Short of proving Mitt was on the grassy knoll, or piloted the aircraft that hit tower 2, it is unlikely they have worse to offer. We all know Mitt and the RNC have yet to use their best stuff and JUST MAYBE there is a sound strategy behind holding back until the debates. I am cautiously optimistic that lessons were learned from the McCain campaign.
    Let Mitt be Mitt!!

  • new2la

    No Glenn, it isn’t just you. Barack Hussein Obama is a character out of a play book. I heard the radio clip where he BO, was talking to the Pimp with the Limp and it was very telling. I can imagine how he is, acts and behaves when not on script.
    He is a dude, not a man of character. And no, I wouldn’t care to have a beer with him, but I would like to be a fly on a wall at his staff meetings. I would like to hear his private conversations with Michele. But I would mostly love to be an invisible chair in a room with he and Valerie Jarrett.
    I do believe whom ever the victor, God’s hand of fate will be the cause and not anything done by man. If Obama wins, there will be no hope for America because that would indicate we have made God angry.
    If Romney wins, A second chance (or in my estimation, one in many) will be given to us to correct many failings. It’s no coincidence that we have the choice between a man of faith and one who claims to be faithful. I like to believe that good always triumphs over evil……we shall see.

  • cratewasher

    What’s Bush/Cheney’s excuse for not getting him?
    Romney is more of the same ineptitude we watched for 8 long years while our economy tanked and we were ripped off by Wall Street.
    Pathetic the candidate you people have put forth this year. Absolutely pathetic, and it will cost the entire GOP for years to come. And to think you could have had Ron Paul – you deserve to lose.

  • new2la

    Democrat congress in Jan. 2007-2009. That’s when All the problems started. Does this answer most of your questions?

  • cratewasher

    It always comes back to race baiting with you people. If you had a real man running for president, you might not feel the need to stoop this low. Your party’s pathetic choice of candidate will haunt conservatives forever, and leave a stain on the GOP (or as I call them, the Gang Of Perverts) for years to come.
    Gary Johnson is the future.

  • cratewasher

    Oh, the “back to Africa” racism shows up again. You people should be ashamed for offering such a weak candidate to represent conservative ideals (gay marriage and abortion are personal choices in a free society and have nothing to do with presidential politics, by the way).
    No one will ever forgive the GOP for Bush, and were not about to follow you lowlifes over the cliff again.

  • new2la

    Looking at all your comments about you claiming to vote for Johnson is a joke. You’re someone from the left, not the middle. You have been found out and this last post has done it for us. Thanks; Typical left wing nut job……you can’t keep your mouth shut! Good luck with trying to split the vote.

  • cratewasher

    I believe the unnecessary and ineptly handled Iraq war started years earlier (along with billions in payments to the Pakistani ISI who were hiding Bin Laden (took Obama’s presidency to flush him out).
    You are the party of war criminals, and it’s a shame because the Dems are only scarcely better. We needed Ron Paul and you people give us this Romney idiot….

  • cratewasher

    I wrote in Ron Paul last election and would do the same again, but Johnson actually has a future and real conservatives (not GOP clones) need representation. You’re right, I can’t keep my mouth shut – but your pathetic Gang Of Perverts has offered up the weakest candidate since Sarah Palin – it’s no wonder your party will continue to lose votes over the next few decades.

  • new2la

    @Lioness. Yes it is creepy and he is actually worse than Hitler. BO has a lot of powerful people backing him. Funny how the left have zeroed in on the 1%. Those backing Obama are beyond wealth. They are the cream of the proverbial uber rich. They pay people like some that are posting on here, to deceive and play a role of someone they are not. How do I know this? I just do.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHETWQlwxfg&feature=share&list=PL5FABE780A13D231D Rahm Kota

    They seem to think they can convert you to their cause lol. I can’t see voting for him for a few reasons but the one that screams at me the most is the whole open boarders thing when the economy is still sinking into the ocean with a mill stone tied around it. I have to find this book it sounds scarier than anything Steven King could come up with. Oh the new me is following you I had small change of plans.

  • Lioness

    Gay marriage, which I support, and a woman’s right to chose, that’s a state matter. We are a republic. Don’t forget that.

  • Lioness

    Obama’s nightmare is your future. You are not for this country, this is not about race for me, just for those who are obsessed with it. That’s why you can’t even bring up the word white or black without someone like you jumping all over it. You’re a liberal for sure, you just don’t know it. All true conservatives know a dictator when they see one.

  • Anonymous

    Obama is more like Adolf Hitler than Stalin, Stalin is more like your Clinton, Gore or any current Democrat.
    http://www.usatoday.com/money/

  • Lioness

    That sounds like a good job, I would enjoy being paid to mess with the liberal’s. But seriously, Obama’s book has freaked me out. I’m going to start pasting quotes, it’s just as creepy in context as out of context. People need to hear his lies. He said that Rev. Wright’s church was just a church his family attended like he had no real choice in the matter. He chose that church while doing his community organizing, he never heard of him prior to that. He was spiritually moved by his message, yet he mislead everyone into believing he was just an acquaintance. He was married in that church for goodness sakes. Creepy for sure.

  • Lioness

    There is something weird about these Libertarians. This is kind of freaking me out. I’m starting to think new2la might be on to something with her post. These people smell like OWS to me.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHETWQlwxfg&feature=share&list=PL5FABE780A13D231D Rahm Kota

    Some most likely are but I don’t think they all our Gray Wolfs seems to be genuine in his love for this country. This may be the last time I check this profile. They will not let me shut this down because they decided to change something with the profiles again can DISQUS ever stick with something I been at this for a year and they changed things around ten times at least just stop it guys.

  • Anonymous

    I’m glad someone finally said it. Good one.

  • Anonymous

    For sure.

  • Anonymous

    You low lifes? Lioness is not a low life.

  • new2la

    Also read Dinesh D’ Souza’s book about Obama…it’s much more detailed. His movie 2016, is a must see. When you’re done there, read G. Edward Griffin’s book, The Creature from Jekyll Island……this will cause migraines, so be careful. And just for fun, Then read Atlas Shrugged if you haven’t already done so. LOL
    I think I recall you saying you are an atheist? If I am wrong, forgive me for bringing it up…but Perhaps After this election is over, You will see the hand of God work His miracles before the end of the year….remember I told you this.

  • http://youtu.be/ff8jDkOHp3U Sam Fisher

    I think the resort to this tactic when they can’t convert people to their thinking. Lioness from what I seen is a force for good.

  • http://youtu.be/ff8jDkOHp3U Sam Fisher

    You know accusing others of racism with no proof is childish and just plain wrong. Show me one racist remark in her entire profile and I will vote Gary Johnson but sadly there is no proof of your claims of her being a racist. Second point I just love how you Gary Johnson supporters love to demonize people for having different beliefs than you do. Maybe you hard core libertarians should get to know someone before calling them racist and lowlifes and using left wing tactics to shut down your enemies first amendment rights.

  • cratewasher

    Here is lionesses’ verbatim quote: “His true home is in the countries of Africa, he despises our way of life.” Racism.

  • cratewasher

    Here is her exact quote to me about Obama: “His true home is in the countries of Africa, he despises our way of life.”
    Racism writ large.

  • http://youtu.be/ff8jDkOHp3U Sam Fisher

    I don’t support both
    but yet gay marriage is constitutional under the first amendment and don’t
    support a ban on gay marriage for that reason. As for abortion if a state wants
    to pass that law do so but do not put my hard earn money in the hands of abortion
    doctors and Planned Parenthood. It is odd that liberals forget that we live in
    a Republic to begin with and think that we should fund things like abortion. I wonder if we will have freedom in the next
    for years or four more years under the rule of Obama. I think the choice is
    clear.

  • cratewasher

    Then why support a GOP that wants to CRIMINALIZE a woman’s right to choose. By criminalize, they mean put women in jail, or as one Republican legislator recently said, give the woman the death penalty. This is today’s GOP. Support it at your own peril.

  • http://youtu.be/ff8jDkOHp3U Sam Fisher

    Seeing how he lived there and talks fondly of Africa in his book yah I say he loved living there and he hates this country be taking freedom from the people and trampling on constitution and using it as toilet paper so there for not racist but fact nice try.

  • cratewasher

    It’s so obvious the similarities to Reagan, even the UK sees it…
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/dec/27/vote-obama-centrist-republican

  • cratewasher

    No ones hates the country that makes them president. You folks are really stretching for a new paradigm, huh? Here’s one – Vote Gary Johnson!

  • cratewasher

    Reagan would never have stood for those who call themselves Republicans today. He would cast his vote for Obama before Romney.
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-06/romney-persona-non-grata-in-italy-for-bain-s-deal-skirting-taxes.html

  • Anonymous

    Dish washer is what new2la says. He called conservatives low lifes. He is not going too convince me to waste my vote.

  • Anonymous

    Here is your exact quote: “we’re (were) not about to follow you lowlifes over the cliff again”

  • Anonymous

    I like Sarah Palin, nothing weak about her. I think you meant John McCain…that was the candidate.

  • Anonymous

    NO!

  • http://youtu.be/ff8jDkOHp3U Sam Fisher

    Never!

  • http://youtu.be/ff8jDkOHp3U Sam Fisher

    It how some of them act like. Granted I am glad they are not voting for Obama but still I would like to say I am voting for Mitt without being stocked and mocked out of my first amendment rights. It is odd how they say they love freedom but yell at others for having a different opinion. I was like that myself but I want to stop that in myself and will. This in fighting has to stop and we must focus on what matters reversing what the Progressives did.

  • Anonymous

    For a person who once tried to share God to me, it is really telling when you come down to call me stupid for disagreeing with you politically. The outlook is desperate for your beloved GOP, no?

  • Lioness

    I think your confusing me with some one else ding dong. I’m not even Christian, nor am I affiliated with any organized religion, just spiritual on my own terms. I don’t just disagree with you politically, I disagree with those who will allow Hitler another four years. It’s personal.

  • Lioness

    I’m an American, what would I care what the UK thinks?

  • Lioness

    Nice attempt at making crap up OWS. How bout a prez who supports Sharia Law. Now that’s soooo much better. You know what they do to gays in the middle east? A real war on women is being waged and our dictator and chief has no problem siding with it. Of course if you read about the men in his family, he’s probably for it.

  • Lioness

    I seen the 2016 movie and that was horrifying. After reading Obama’s own words, it totally coincides. I like to study an individuals psychology through their own words, and he is carrying way too much hatred. As for my spirituality, I am as far away from atheism as you can get. Just have my own path. so many posts can cause confusion as to one‘s beliefs, thanks for asking. We are on the same side.

  • Lioness

    That’s my point exactly, most libertarians are sensible people. They usually are understanding of this political climate and have no issues with those voting for Romney. They are principled to the point that they might vote Johnson in a throw away state like New York, but they are not pushing the issue. These obnoxious posters are OWS people, anarchists, young confused people who were taught conservatives are communists, or just plants who really side with Obama.

  • Lioness

    Thanks Diana. I’m absolutely convinced some of these so called Gary Johnson supporters are OWS. Conservative libertarians do not debate in this fashion. Putting down Regan? That in itself is strange for a so called conservative. Calling Obama Regan? Now that’s just plain insane. No president was ever perfect, but Regan was pretty good. This guy is probably an Obama supporter or an anarchist.

  • Lioness

    Thanks for your kind words, I’m very passionate about this election, I’m trying to remain logical, but I love this country, ya know.

  • Lioness

    Excellent point, and the sad thing is, most don’t even know we’re a republic, it not even being taught. Not when I was young either, just a democracy. But it’s still there in the Pledge of Allegiance. Although that’s being banned too.

  • http://youtu.be/ff8jDkOHp3U Sam Fisher

    I Believe every word I said and thank you for being a good friend.

  • http://www.facebook.com/erichuseby7 Eric Huseby

    Negative. Reagan debated John Anderson Sept. 21. Carter boycotted that debate.