Comments on: Glenn’s interview with David Barton http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/10/04/glenn%e2%80%99s-interview-with-david-barton/ The Fusion of Entertainment and Enlightenment Sat, 25 May 2013 11:04:00 -0400 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: scanner http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/10/04/glenn%e2%80%99s-interview-with-david-barton/#comment-171377 scanner Fri, 05 Oct 2012 16:25:00 +0000 /?p=38762#comment-171377 You know, I like a lot of things about this guy but how do you publish something called "The Founders Bible" and use the NASB as the text? Neither the Geneva Bible nor the King James used the text behind the NASB which is Alexandrian. Almost 100% of exisiting Greek Manuscripts agree with the King James text while the NASB uses a Greek text that includes all of the spurious New Testament books such as the Gospel of Peter. As far as anyone knows, the 1st book published in America was the King James Bible. Seems like Barton has bought the lie of the higher critics. You know, I like a lot of things about this guy but how do you publish something called “The Founders Bible” and use the NASB as the text? Neither the Geneva Bible nor the King James used the text behind the NASB which is Alexandrian. Almost 100% of exisiting Greek Manuscripts agree with the King James text while the NASB uses a Greek text that includes all of the spurious New Testament books such as the Gospel of Peter.

As far as anyone knows, the 1st book published in America was the King James Bible. Seems like Barton has bought the lie of the higher critics.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/10/04/glenn%e2%80%99s-interview-with-david-barton/#comment-171332 Anonymous Fri, 05 Oct 2012 10:45:00 +0000 /?p=38762#comment-171332 The idea that you can say the founders were christians, as one cohesive group, is a severe historical oversight. There were serious differences and some issues between the various denominations at that time, there wasn't much of an idea of being a christian. You were Episcopalian, or Catholic, or Lutheran etc. Of the founding fathers slightly over half were Anglican, a couple were catholic, a few more were Quaker, a handful of Lutherans, a fair amount of Presbyterians, and at least one Unitarian. Ben Franklin was about as openly atheist as you could be at the time and both Thomas Payne and Thomas Jefferson showed atheist tendencies, while neither were likely atheists they certainly were not particularly religious as both were ardent supporters of the french revolution which was overtly anti-church and anti-religion. "All men are created equal and independent. From that equal creation they derive rights inherent and inalienable." Was the original wording in the Declaration that Jefferson wrote, the religious overtones were added by the congress. Episcopal minister Bird Wilson of Albany, New York, protested in October 1831 during the second great awakening: "Among all our presidents from Washington downward, not one was a professor of religion, at least not of more than Unitarianism." We are not a country counciously founded on christian beliefs, certainly not within our government document. We are a country flavored by christian beliefs for no other reason than they were an integral part of European history (specifically the English Civil War which the American Revolution was really just a continuation of) and culture and did influence enlightenment thinking. The idea that you can say the founders were christians, as one cohesive group, is a severe historical oversight. There were serious differences and some issues between the various denominations at that time, there wasn’t much of an idea of being a christian. You were Episcopalian, or Catholic, or Lutheran etc.
Of the founding fathers slightly over half were Anglican, a couple were catholic, a few more were Quaker, a handful of Lutherans, a fair amount of Presbyterians, and at least one Unitarian.
Ben Franklin was about as openly atheist as you could be at the time and both Thomas Payne and Thomas Jefferson showed atheist tendencies, while neither were likely atheists they certainly were not particularly religious as both were ardent supporters of the french revolution which was overtly anti-church and anti-religion.

“All men are created equal and independent. From that
equal creation they derive rights inherent and inalienable.” Was the original wording in the Declaration that Jefferson wrote, the religious overtones were added by the congress.

Episcopal minister Bird Wilson of Albany, New York,
protested in October 1831 during the second great awakening: “Among
all our presidents from Washington
downward, not one was a professor of religion, at least not of more than
Unitarianism.”

We are not a country counciously founded on christian beliefs, certainly not within our government document. We are a country flavored by christian beliefs for no other reason than they were an integral part of European history (specifically the English Civil War which the American Revolution was really just a continuation of) and culture and did influence enlightenment thinking.

]]> By: snowleopard (cat folk gallery) http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/10/04/glenn%e2%80%99s-interview-with-david-barton/#comment-171076 snowleopard (cat folk gallery) Thu, 04 Oct 2012 20:03:00 +0000 /?p=38762#comment-171076 Oh the left is burning on the spot, this is the end game for them - they will not know how to deal with it or how to stop it being used. Oh the left is burning on the spot, this is the end game for them – they will not know how to deal with it or how to stop it being used.

]]> By: Sam Fisher http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/10/04/glenn%e2%80%99s-interview-with-david-barton/#comment-171068 Sam Fisher Thu, 04 Oct 2012 19:52:00 +0000 /?p=38762#comment-171068 This is just great the left are freaking out and Obama lost more voters. Ha ha! This is just great the left are freaking out and Obama lost more voters. Ha ha!

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