Glenn stops by Real News to talk fiscal cliff Wednesday, Nov 21, 2012 at 1:51 PM EDT Your browser does not support iframes. http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery) I imagine Obama and Reid will dump us over the cliff full speed; this way he can declare an emergency exists and grab yet more power into his hands. Tyranny is nearly at hand. landofaahs If the republican party is going to cave in to odumbass, they will never get money or votes from me again. I cam close this last shot but nomore BS. Offer the democrats a 1% increase on the “rich” coupled with massive spending cuts on spending with elimination of Dept. of Ed and Environment. If dems vote against it, then the taxes on the rich that would come anyway but we get the the lower income to shatre the pain of taxation and cuts. This is the best outcome we can hope for since poor liberals are too stupid to know that businesses don’t pay taxes, they pass them on to the consumer or they go out of business which in turn guts revenue for the govt. and leaves less for the “poor”. You also have the unemployed from the business that close down jumping into the the system to take away from the meager resources dedicated for the poor. Live it and love it libtards. You voted liberally for it. lol Elizabeth Bracy John Stossel had an economist on that said the fiscal cliff is made out to be this dire emergency, but it won’t be. So I’m not sure what to think. corey williams Why is it that everytime we have raise taxes in this country the economy goes up . But when ever we lower taxes the econonmy drops. the economic time in this country was the 50s & 60s and the wealthy in this country paid higher rates then the middle class then. landofaahs Corey, I have had many discussions of this over many years. It gets very tiring and although young people may not understand at first glance I will endeavor to once again to my physical detremint try to explain. !950′s was post warld war 2. The only unmolested economy in the world was the US. Every other industrial country suffered major bombing and thus their ability to produce manufactured goods was greatly reduced. At that time everything Americans consumed was produced here witht he exception of the elite people who were having to have French wine etc. This allowed unions to shake down companies at will with no seemingly negative effects. However, once the other countries started to develope, thanks to those high taxes in the US that lead to Businesses to seek relief of high wages and taxes, the US began to go outside the US. The greedy US govt. realized this and reduces taxes to spur growth here. (Remember that govt always acts to protect itself and their cronies). Let us look at the Clinton administration for a bit. At that time we were looking at the supposed “Peace dividend” following the collapse of the USSR. Clinton slasdhed the military and the internet bubble that made any idiot with a garage and a computer, a .com millionaire in 2 months. I remember it well how the bubble was perpetuated by dreams of big profits. I asked my own family memebers how these .doms were going to make money. Therir answer was “nobody knows yet, but it will”. They lost and I won that battle, but for a while the stock market shot uyp and people were making money hand over fist and in the process were paying those higher taxes and nobody cared because the profits were enough to offset the taxes. The problem came when the dummies realized that the .com bubble was just that, a bubble. When things began to collapse under the first months of the Bush admin. Treasury Sec Rubin called the Bush admin. and wanted them to bail out ENRON. The request refused. The next bubble of housing which started with Clinton mandates of Freddy and Fanny took over as the next bubble..Do I need to go on? landofaahs Boehner will be a part of it if it comes. The dirty republican aholes are at fault too. The economic crisis, war and hell coming was avoidable but this is a deliberate takedown by the UN. Globalism only makes sure we all go down together. Sound like communism? landofaahs Sorry Glenn I only “INVEST” when I have legal shares. I’m not interested in making you richer.But I do wish you good luck. Wildcatters are the …Separatists.. lol sparducks Let’s go off the cliff. The sun also rises. jen Good for you – yes, republicans including boehenr, rove, mccain, and romney are all part of it. Democrats don’t act on their own without their better half called republicans. snowleopard is psychotic with her obssession over obama. jen fill in the blanks that you are lying about or covering up. bush and romney and all their cronies are in on it. republicans have ruled more of congress and white house in past 100 years, and you psycho want to believe bush allowed clinton policies to remain wihtout overturning it – that is unless he agree with everything dems did. jen it has long been a dire emergency. it will be made out to be something in order to get the american public to agree to something or other they shouldn’t be agreeing to. landofaahs Oh Jen, I am not. They are all part of the world govt. takeover. I want them all tried for crimes agasinst the constitution. I hope you are not so liberal as to think that anything less than liberty and the DEMAND of resposibility take it’s effect. If you get cancer, are you willing to pay the bill all by yourself? I am. Because I believ what Christ said. “Which of you with all of your worrying can add one inch to your stature or one day to your life”. Nuff said for me. landofaahs Luv ya Jen. Keep it up. Give no one a quarter even me. Hold us all to a high standard. I have missed your comments of late. I pray God has blessed you. Blessings to you and yours. heis^. http://www.facebook.com/people/Ryszard-Ewiak/100001202215731 Ryszard Ewiak This crisis is not a coincidence. Bible says: “And [the king of the north] will go back (to) his land with great wealth ; and his heart (will be) against the holy covenant [state atheism]; and will act [this means activity in the international arena]; and turned back to his own land [1991-1993. The collapse of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact. Russian troops returned to their country]. At the appointed time [he] will return back.” (Daniel 11:28, 29a) The return of Russia in this context means the financial and geopolitical earthquake; the disintegration not only of the euro area, but also of the European Union and NATO. Then many countries of the former Eastern bloc will return to the Russian sphere of influence. Russian troops will be stationed here again. This will be the last sign before the global nuclear war. (Daniel 11:29b, 30a; Numbers 24:23, 24; Matthew 24:7; Revelation 6:4) In 1882 British troops occupied Egypt. Great Britain then took the role of “the king of the south”. Around the same time, Russia expanded its influence in the region, which previously belonged to Seleucus I Nicator, and took the role of “the king of the north”. (Daniel 11:27) http://www.facebook.com/people/Desy-Nurul-Azkiya/100001601301792 Desy Nurul Azkiya verry bad aghost barack : http://www.facebook.com/people/Desy-Nurul-Azkiya/100001601301792 Desy Nurul Azkiya the eard gone speak to you : Anonymous Snow leopard was also persecuted in Lebanon just for being Christian. How about showing a little respect. http://twitter.com/PamelaMeyerso Pamela Meyerso that is unless he agree with everything dems did.. http://youtube.qr.net/jNUN/watch?v=NMuze8T2Y5k http://www.facebook.com/gmsdesignworks Jason Sears jen…hate to burst your bubble, but over the last 100 years, Democrats have had the White House for 52 years, while Republicans have held it for 48. in the Senate, Democrats have been in control for 32 years, while Republicans have had it for only 16. and finally in the House…Democrats in control 34 years and Republicans 17 years. so who gets the “credit” for screwing this country up for that last 100 years? since Democrats have had more time in control of the Presidency AND Congress, i’d say the winners have a “D” in front of their names. source for Presidents: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_by_political_affiliation source for Congressional numbers: http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0774721.html http://www.facebook.com/gmsdesignworks Jason Sears jen…hate to burst your bubble, but over the last 100 years, Democrats have had the White House for 52 years, while Republicans have held it for 48. in the Senate, Democrats have been in control for 32 years, while Republicans have had it for only 16. and finally in the House…Democrats in control 34 years and Republicans 17 years. so who gets the “credit” for screwing this country up for that last 100 years? since Democrats have had more time in control of the Presidency AND Congress, i’d say the winners have a “D” in front of their names. source for Presidents: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_by_political_affiliation source for Congressional numbers: http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0774721.html corey williams Wrong just like Bush sr. had to raise taxes to fix reagans mess. Clinton had to do so. And your telling me that the Bush trickle down worked? Anonymous Glenn, I am a hardworking administration assistant. I would love to work for you in your Texas location, I am willing to relocate from Indy. The children are grown and out on their own. I would love to be a part of what you are working on. Resume will be sent upon request. God Bless you Glenn. landofaahs Not wrong. If my taxes go up, I raise prices for my goods and services. That means you the consumer pays the tax. I only pass it on and if it is too much to pass on, I go out of business leading to more unemployment and less supply. You also get no taxes. The Clinton so-called boom came about because we had a tech bubble brewing where the markets were pumped up and everyone was making money for a short period of time. We also slashed the military as pasrt of Reagan’s peace benefit collapsing the Soviet Union economy. The Clinton bubble of tech and the start of the housing bubble with fanny and freddy. But don’t worry the bubble we are in now will burst, I just hope it’s under the liberals watch who were the main producers od it. But I don’t plan on participating in it. OscarK44 I still can’t believe we have to argue this again, lower tax rates = more revenue. Lets put this in a way that some of you trolls can understand it. You want to buy this cool new video game to play in mommy and daddy’s basement, so you go to the same store you usually buy your games at and the price is $80. Your friend comes in and tells you that they have the same game next door at $40, where are you going to buy it at. Same with taxes, a company would more than likely build were it will cost less in taxes, that means more jobs.If the company is already here and not bankrupt they will more than likely try to increase business, to expand, to hire more people that means more jobs, more companies and more companies hiring, means more tax dollars. Now a job is this thing you have to get when you must take care of yourself, I know, I know, that’s something hard to understand when your a government loving liberal but when you grow up most people figure it out. Unless you have been taught and brought up by people who have lived on the government teat their whole lives.