Comments on: Where does Glenn stand on gay marriage? He sat down with Penn Jillette to discuss the role of libertarianism in the future of the country http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/12/06/where-does-glenn-stand-on-gay-marriage-he-sat-down-with-penn-jillette-to-discuss-the-role-of-libertarianism-in-the-future-of-the-country/ The Fusion of Entertainment and Enlightenment Sat, 25 May 2013 11:04:00 -0400 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Anonymous http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/12/06/where-does-glenn-stand-on-gay-marriage-he-sat-down-with-penn-jillette-to-discuss-the-role-of-libertarianism-in-the-future-of-the-country/#comment-244836 Anonymous Tue, 30 Apr 2013 20:51:00 +0000 /?p=41068#comment-244836 Excuse me,but who died and made Penn Jillette an expert. This guy is an entertainer,Right?. When did he become "The" authority on marriage, government  or anything else. Glenn likes him so he brings him on the show and they talk. His opinion isn't worth any more than someone else's opinion. And that's all it is His opinion. What--- because he is a Libertarian and Glenn is a Libertarian ---what he says is gospel ----carved in stone? That's  like asking Mao,Hitler or Stalin what they think of Capitalism and the Declaration of Independence. No thank You--Glenn on a scale of 1 to 10 you get a minus 5. I don't care what he thinks about marraige or chocolate milk. Giving him a  public platform to expouse his propaganda is ridiculous. Excuse me,but who died and made Penn Jillette an expert. This guy is an entertainer,Right?.
When did he become “The” authority on marriage, government  or anything else. Glenn likes him so he brings him on the show and they talk. His opinion isn’t worth any more than someone else’s opinion. And that’s all it is His opinion. What— because he is a Libertarian and Glenn is a Libertarian —what he says is gospel —-carved in stone? That’s  like asking Mao,Hitler or Stalin what they think of Capitalism and the Declaration of Independence.
No thank You–Glenn on a scale of 1 to 10 you get a minus 5.
I don’t care what he thinks about marraige or chocolate milk.
Giving him a  public platform to expouse his propaganda is ridiculous.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/12/06/where-does-glenn-stand-on-gay-marriage-he-sat-down-with-penn-jillette-to-discuss-the-role-of-libertarianism-in-the-future-of-the-country/#comment-244817 Anonymous Tue, 30 Apr 2013 20:09:00 +0000 /?p=41068#comment-244817     The Treaty of Tripoli was writtten by Joel Barlow in 1796 and later sent to the Senate in 1797. Barlow was a Deist and a strong advocate of Church State separation.(But not the same separation we hear about today) Barlow  in1791 wrote a Book entiltled " Advice to Privileged Order in the Several States of Europe Resulting From the Necessity and Property  of a General Revaltion in the Principle of Government" In chapter two of his book he attacks organized established churches. Eventhough  an advocate of Church state separation,he makes it clear that  the distinction between a State sponsed Church as an ally of an authoritian government is different from" Plain Religion".(He was of course refering to the Church Of England and the King--- in comparison to just plain religion)  He notes that separation of Church and State means that established Churches as religion in his opinion or indeed different from a State authorized sponsered religion in alligance with government. The quote noted above is Article 11 of 12 articles in the Treaty.Since the United States was indeed consdiered to be a "Christian" Nation founded on Christian principles stemmng from the Bible,.Barlow in writting the Treaty to Muslims(who hate Christanity) is explanning to them that the United States government does not have an alligiance or is controlled by a "State" (meaning government sponsered) "Religion" that is Christian. The treaty was intended to create peace between Tripoli pirates and the US,but failed. Pres John Adams did sign the treaty,but not only did he understand what Barlow was trying to explain to the Muslims ,but also signed it because it was politically correct to avoid a war. Since 1797 numerous groups including athestists have attempted to use their false intrepration of Barlow's statement in the Treaty to promote the erronous idea that the United States in not a Christian Nation founded on Chritian principles stemming from the Bible. The United States was indeed Not founded on One Christian religion--Catholicism,Protestantism,etc.In that respect alone--- Jacob you are right,but your understanding of what Barlow wrote is wrong.Trying to promote your opinion by leaving out the rest of the story/using only part of the information won't work. We have always been a Christian Nation!      The Treaty of Tripoli was writtten by Joel Barlow in 1796 and later sent to the Senate in 1797. Barlow was a Deist and a strong advocate of Church State separation.(But not the same separation we hear about today) Barlow  in1791 wrote a Book entiltled ” Advice to Privileged Order in the Several States of Europe Resulting From the Necessity and Property  of a General Revaltion in the Principle of Government” In chapter two of his book he attacks organized established churches. Eventhough  an advocate of Church state separation,he makes it clear that  the distinction between a State sponsed Church as an ally of an authoritian government is different from” Plain Religion”.(He was of course refering to the Church Of England and the King— in comparison to just plain religion)  He notes that separation of Church and State means that established Churches as religion in his opinion or indeed different from a State authorized sponsered religion in alligance with government. The quote noted above is Article 11 of 12 articles in the Treaty.Since the United States was indeed consdiered to be a “Christian” Nation founded on Christian principles stemmng from the Bible,.Barlow in writting the Treaty to Muslims(who hate Christanity) is explanning to them that the United States government does not have an alligiance or is controlled by a “State” (meaning government sponsered) “Religion” that is Christian. The treaty was intended to create peace between Tripoli pirates and the US,but failed. Pres John Adams did sign the treaty,but not only did he understand what Barlow was trying to explain to the Muslims ,but also signed it because it was politically correct to avoid a war.
Since 1797 numerous groups including athestists have attempted to use their false intrepration of Barlow’s statement in the Treaty to promote the erronous idea that the United States in not a Christian Nation founded on Chritian principles stemming from the Bible. The United States was indeed Not founded on One Christian religion–Catholicism,Protestantism,etc.In that respect alone— Jacob you are right,but your understanding of what Barlow wrote is wrong.Trying to promote your opinion by leaving out the rest of the story/using only part of the information won’t work.

We have always been a Christian Nation! 

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/12/06/where-does-glenn-stand-on-gay-marriage-he-sat-down-with-penn-jillette-to-discuss-the-role-of-libertarianism-in-the-future-of-the-country/#comment-244809 Anonymous Tue, 30 Apr 2013 18:43:00 +0000 /?p=41068#comment-244809 You are 100% correct! You are 100% correct!

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/12/06/where-does-glenn-stand-on-gay-marriage-he-sat-down-with-penn-jillette-to-discuss-the-role-of-libertarianism-in-the-future-of-the-country/#comment-244734 Anonymous Tue, 30 Apr 2013 05:15:00 +0000 /?p=41068#comment-244734 Glenn,   I have watched you and listened to you, but I have to say I am upset with you right now.  You are not taking a conservative Christian view on gay marriage.  God is supposed to be first in our lives.   You have pulled us conservatives in from day one and now you are starting to change on us, a lot like Fox News, we are the ones who have made you successful and bought all of your books.  It is really sad to see you be for Gay Marriage.  It is a great disappointment in the stance you are taking.  Why? Glenn,   I have watched you and listened to you, but I have to say I am upset with you right now.  You are not taking a conservative Christian view on gay marriage.  God is supposed to be first in our lives.   You have pulled us conservatives in from day one and now you are starting to change on us, a lot like Fox News, we are the ones who have made you successful and bought all of your books.  It is really sad to see you be for Gay Marriage.  It is a great disappointment in the stance you are taking.  Why?

]]> By: Glenda M. Tankersley http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/12/06/where-does-glenn-stand-on-gay-marriage-he-sat-down-with-penn-jillette-to-discuss-the-role-of-libertarianism-in-the-future-of-the-country/#comment-237795 Glenda M. Tankersley Mon, 15 Apr 2013 16:15:00 +0000 /?p=41068#comment-237795 Glenn marriage is for man and woman only, not 2 men or 2 women according to Yahweh!  If they want to live together that's their business. Glenda M. Tankersley/North Little Rock, AR. Glenn marriage is for man and woman only, not 2 men or 2 women according to Yahweh!  If they want to live together that’s their business.

Glenda M. Tankersley/North Little Rock, AR.

]]> By: HolyChrist http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/12/06/where-does-glenn-stand-on-gay-marriage-he-sat-down-with-penn-jillette-to-discuss-the-role-of-libertarianism-in-the-future-of-the-country/#comment-231836 HolyChrist Fri, 22 Mar 2013 17:03:00 +0000 /?p=41068#comment-231836 The BIG comment that Beck makes at the end of the video that shouldn't be ignored is that "god" came down and gave us our rights and gave us our Constitution! That's false! That is the whole rub that people like him do not connect. MAN wrote the Constitution and it is absolutely not written in stone. That's why we have amendments. If someone is against something the Constitution says (or disagrees with someone's interpretation of the words) it doesn't mean they are some extremist term like "Socialist" or a "Nazi". Did Nazis give us our current set of amendments? Of course not! Is the idea of more amendments mean you are anti-American? Of course not! The BIG comment that Beck makes at the end of the video that shouldn’t be ignored is that “god” came down and gave us our rights and gave us our Constitution! That’s false! That is the whole rub that people like him do not connect. MAN wrote the Constitution and it is absolutely not written in stone. That’s why we have amendments. If someone is against something the Constitution says (or disagrees with someone’s interpretation of the words) it doesn’t mean they are some extremist term like “Socialist” or a “Nazi”. Did Nazis give us our current set of amendments? Of course not! Is the idea of more amendments mean you are anti-American? Of course not!

]]> By: HolyChrist http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/12/06/where-does-glenn-stand-on-gay-marriage-he-sat-down-with-penn-jillette-to-discuss-the-role-of-libertarianism-in-the-future-of-the-country/#comment-231831 HolyChrist Fri, 22 Mar 2013 16:45:00 +0000 /?p=41068#comment-231831 Wow, HUGE no. Wow, HUGE no.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/12/06/where-does-glenn-stand-on-gay-marriage-he-sat-down-with-penn-jillette-to-discuss-the-role-of-libertarianism-in-the-future-of-the-country/#comment-224667 Anonymous Thu, 28 Feb 2013 18:05:00 +0000 /?p=41068#comment-224667 Are you okay with a man marrying a dog? Who decides it has to be humans? Does it “pick your pocket or break your leg”  as Glenn said? As long as the dog is okay with it, right? Should the government have a say in that? How about a man who wants to marry and sleep with the corpse of his dead fiance? Who are we to stop that kind of deep "love?" This is absurdity, of course, but it is to make a point. Just because it sounds like Liberty, doesn't mean it is. Are you okay with a man marrying a dog? Who decides it has to be humans? Does it “pick your pocket or break your leg”  as Glenn said? As long as the dog is okay with it, right? Should the government have a say in that? How about a man who wants to marry and sleep with the corpse of his dead fiance? Who are we to stop that kind of deep “love?”

This is absurdity, of course, but it is to make a point. Just because it sounds like Liberty, doesn’t mean it is.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/12/06/where-does-glenn-stand-on-gay-marriage-he-sat-down-with-penn-jillette-to-discuss-the-role-of-libertarianism-in-the-future-of-the-country/#comment-224658 Anonymous Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:58:00 +0000 /?p=41068#comment-224658 Where does Glenn stand on polygamy? And while we are on the subject of marriage, let's try a little absurdity. Is he okay with a man marrying a dog? Does it “pick his pocket or break his leg.” As long as the dog is okay with it, right? Should the government have a say in that? How about a man who wants to marry and sleep with the corpse of his dead fiance? Who are we to stop that kind of deep "love?" And how long until "consensual" pedophilia is excepted by our twisted culture? Use your brains people. Just because it sounds like Liberty, doesn't make it right. Where does Glenn stand on polygamy?

And while we are on the subject of marriage, let’s try a little absurdity. Is he okay with a man marrying a dog? Does it “pick his pocket or break his leg.” As long as the dog is okay with it, right? Should the government have a say in that? How about a man who wants to marry and sleep with the corpse of his dead fiance? Who are we to stop that kind of deep “love?” And how long until “consensual” pedophilia is excepted by our twisted culture?
Use your brains people. Just because it sounds like Liberty, doesn’t make it right.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/12/06/where-does-glenn-stand-on-gay-marriage-he-sat-down-with-penn-jillette-to-discuss-the-role-of-libertarianism-in-the-future-of-the-country/#comment-224646 Anonymous Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:33:00 +0000 /?p=41068#comment-224646 I wonder if Penn would be okay with an atheist meeting on public property? Public property should be a place where the Public is allowed to voice their beliefs.  Also, science is not disproving God - the "god of the gaps" is a straw man - it is only showing how complex His creation is. It is silly to believe that something so complex was not programmed to be so. It's like saying you are disproving that computers were designed because you are breaking them down into basic component parts and then explaining how they work together to do what they were designed to do. You will never be able to show matter just popping into existence from nothing; that is just absurd. Science will always be stuck on first cause because there is no way to test non-existence. I wonder if Penn would be okay with an atheist meeting on public property? Public property should be a place where the Public is allowed to voice their beliefs. 

Also, science is not disproving God – the “god of the gaps” is a straw man – it is only showing how complex His creation is. It is silly to believe that something so complex was not programmed to be so. It’s like saying you are disproving that computers were designed because you are breaking them down into basic component parts and then explaining how they work together to do what they were designed to do. You will never be able to show matter just popping into existence from nothing; that is just absurd. Science will always be stuck on first cause because there is no way to test non-existence.

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