Once again we see the clear fact that the administration will go to all lengths to defend itself and give up scapegoats to appease the masses.

Hillary, Obama and all others of the administration who are involved in Benghazi must be held to task for their criminal actions and removed from office at once. This is a complete whitewash of the matter.

Four are dead, and thirty others were left behind to be killed save for two SEAL’s who saved them at the cost of their own lives when Obama ordered ‘stand down.’

Even if those responsible, for the blunder in Libya were removed from office…another batch of jackasses (Democratic Motto) would be quickly scurried in to take their place. Lets face it, Obama’s goal is to reduce the footprint of America on the world scene. He doesn’t care one iota, what other nations do in our absence. Look at the Marine left stranded in Mexico, this solder placed his life in harms way for the freedoms of those who now sit in power over us, and they haven’t even so much as made a simple phone call.

Its one thing to be laughed at by our political shrill, but now, they’re flipping us off and laughing at the same time.

Incompetence, incompetence and more incompetence.  Total destruction of the Nations economy is the first concern of obama.  After he destroys the economy, he can focus on destroying other things.

Another thought…what has become of those thirty others…?

 Good question!

What about the CIA, they are the ones who gather intel in that region, they had to of known things way ahead of time…

I also had another thought about the Ambassador that Died, he worked in the CIA or with them and knew lots of things that the Gov’t wouldn’t want known.  What if he was going to leak something huge that they wanted secret?  Obummers people give money and weapons to the attackers to conceal blame or divert it… not totally unbelievable.  Take out the person and control damages as best you can, the New Gov’t Policy (that has been around for a long time).

They take orders from someone. Gee I wonder who that was. Now we have Scapegoat Gate.

This is probably a diversion to keep our minds off the 30 witnesses. The regime has the blood of four brave Americans on their hands and no matter what they do the blood will never wash off. Sleep on that mrs. Clinton and Mr president.

What is Funny to me is why did the republican and right wing media asked question about 911 there is alot our Goverment has to ask for there but Glenn beck was very quite about that. but he is up and arms about this. It’s a shame how the lives of 4 people are being used for political gains.

From what little the news and reliable sites outside the nation have stated, and consistently at that is this:

All 30 work for the State Department.
All who are investigating Benghazi in the House are consistently being stonewalled in any effort to talk to them.

This mess has to break, and break as a major dam breach; if Obama is allowed to get away with this, there will truly be nothing he can be stopped from doing.

Oh I do understand, today while downtown on business I dropped off a number of hand written letters to Senator McCain and to incoming Senator Flake, with a polite request for them to work on getting the marine freed.

Obama has given up on him, but the American PEOPLE have not.

And the 2 peole really resposible for it get a pass.

If history has anything to say about Obama’s “in your face” political maneuvers, the American people…that would be the conservative right…the other half, have already baked their brains from too much dope and sold themselves out to mind altering left wing liberal philosophy, resulting from a thorough brainwashing from their youth….. to be considered “people”…but those of us….. still able to think for ourselves, using minimal rational thought, will do what needed to be done eight years ago….remove the bastard from office …no matter what it takes…if Obama policy doesn’t change very soon and by the looks of things, nothing in their behavior indicates that to be the case, If anything, the tactics have become more brazen.  

 These missing 30, have probably been well informed, that if they go public in anyway, they will be found with a suicide-note taped to their chest and five shotgun blasts to the back of the head…now talk about gun control.

They have become more brazen than any other time I can recall of in my life. I have a feeling we are only seeing the beginning of Obama’s true narcissism and madness coming about.

One thing though I do understand of history, the further one reaches out of arrogance (such as the left) the more one is easily tipped over to their doom from without or within.

 Good job snow, thanks for your efforts, I have to disagree with one thing you said…”Obama has given up on him”….that’s not true, Obama never gave a rats ass about him – now if he were black – different story, one short phone-call, would have secured his release the next day.

There are various reports floating around, giving the amount of hallow-point munitions, uncle tom….wait a minute…… did I say, uncle tom…what I meant to say was – Uncle Sam…there, now that’s better, anyway, reports from 750,000 – to well over a one and a half million, have been purchased (at tax payer expense) and distributed throughout the United States…I’m sure you understand that these are illegal to use in combat,  no, these little darlings, are meant for the average conservative American who stands in the way of “progress” and “fundamental change”… 

 Just ask JFK, how the liberal Democrats do business, if that answer doesn’t satisfy your curiosity, talk to his brother Robert…still inquisitive….you might want to look-up Dr. King, maybe he can verify what Democratic policy is and what it has been from 1963 on.

Right. Why do Social Security employees need all those bullets? Is it to protect themselves against attacking mobs of seniors who’s benefit checks have been cut? Beware of gray haired geezers with walkers!

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IF you believe for one skinny instant that Obama cares that 4 people have died as a result of this, I have a large bridge for you.

Read up on narcissism.  The only, repeat only person a narcissist thinks about IS himself and what others can do for him.  A narcissist will sacrifice anyone, including family to accomplish their goals, so these 3 minions that took-the-hit for him…he could care less.

We-the-people have a huge problem on OUR hands with this administration….as they will dismantle the constitution and we will have them around for a long, long, time to come.  just sayin’…

Some info has it, that mission in Benghazi was a set-up to run guns to the Syrians rebels… once they were attacked it was imperative for this administration to cover up the real purpose and involvement in that operation, and they were left to be assaulted and murdered – and they came out with that lame video story and cover-ups and blatant lies. Astounding the arrogance to believe it would not be questioned! And criminal. And impeachable. I too believe they will stop at nothing to protect themselves in this instance, and others, and they are now unleashed to further their dastardly agendas.

I’m still trying to figure out why these people are resigning NOW and not 3 months ago when the incident happened and the Obama Administration was under fire, especially during a presidential campaign????

It’s like, “well, we can’t hide under a rug (getting paid by the taxpayer), so we’ll wait until the scathing report shoves us out the door!” These people should have had the MORAL character to resign then after 4 people were killed!

Even more sad is that Hillary has this cockamammy fish story of the flu and concussion so she won’t have to testify in front of Congress. Will ANYONE in the Senate ask her point blank of why  no one in her incompetent State Dept. had done anything in August when Ambssador Stevens begged for help? And WHY would she tell the father of one of the men killed that they would get the person who made the film when she and the President knew from the GET GO that there was no demonstration and that it was a terrorist attack?

Yes, it was a cover-up, but these people have absolutely no morals. They blamed Mitt Romney for criticizing the Obama Administration for denouncing free speech. You see where their loyalties lie. And they lied to the families of the 4 slain men who died in Bengazi.

The saddest thing is that the media is no longer working for the people. They have become part of the enemy and now a voice for them. They never questioned the ‘Fast and Furious’ program after an American was killed, they allowed the terrorist attack at Fort Hood to be named “workplace violence”. Amazing how fast the reaction is from the Obama Administration after a school shooting to be able to take some of your rights away.

I so appreciate the GB Real News Team,,,,please address this issue,,,,WHY did the  recent massacre of Newtown teacher, Nancy Lanza, HAVE all those guns in the first place? What was she so afraid of, (other than the mayan “end of the world” BS, which I don’t believe). This was an obviously  intelligent woman who had a REAL FEAR of something. Could it be the Islamist movement was a real fear? Could it be she felt the real need to defend herself and her son, to the point of stockpiling guns, ammo, food, water, and whatever else. Why NOW are so MANY Americans buying up the guns, including myself, and ammo, for defending theirselves, their home, their things(??).
   NOW,,,,,, who started this situation, whereby I  and many others felt the need to go out and buy guns, ammo, water, food, supplies? Who has invited our enemies into the White House for special meetings? These questions need to be whooped up the side of Obama’s face like a smelly fish, because this whole thing is fishy. His agenda is being neatly arranged by tragedies experience such as Newtown, CT which has caought the attention of the entire world. Obama THINKS he can now go about changing MY Constitutional right, by gun control, in some capacity.Once again, Why did Nancy Lanza have such fear, that she stockpiled the guns, the supplies, etc.????

Not only are they tossing scape goats to the wolves on this issue but let us not forget “Fast and Furious” when will the Dems recognize the need for honesty….Nixon was torn to shreds by both parties simply for lying…This administration has lied and worse …yet we see only certain individuals crying for justice….

Hilary should NOT be let off the hook on this, and neither should the President.  The blood of those killed is on their hands and we, as a country, should not accept their deception and excuses.

We are arming al-Qaeda in Syria!  Hello!!

And no doubt, in four years people will forget all about it, especially as regards Hillary’s responsibility, involvement regarding pleas of help repeatedly denied and men died.  I wonder if the report addresses any of the people who made it out alive, thanks to Woods and Doherty, about where they are, who they are, what they have to say.  Hillary should NOT be allowed to avoid testifying…but of course she will continue to do so.

So when can we expect the rest of the muckety mucks and the swell heads to follow suit?

I can hardly wait for the Faker in the WH to render his garments and his racist AG to walk on broken glass……are these crooked suckers going to get away with more murders?

hilary can’t accept these resignations: she has a concussion/amnesia/dehydration.she’s in no shape to “work.” what a farce!

Four dead Americans and one was an Ambassador. They call it a learning curve. What the hell happened to sending help? This report falls short of Obama’s responsibility in it.

he got away with fast &furious;he’ll get away with this too,all because of a compliant media and a spineless congress.

The wheels of Obama’s bus are bloody and caked with gore from all the people he has thrown under the bus to protect himself and his cronies.
***
The wheels of the bus go around and around

The wheels of the bus go around and around

Oh my, Oh my just listen to the sound

As America is crushed red into the ground
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OK so I’m not a poet.

Or the 30 could be the first occupants of one of those FEMA camps.

Actually, after more thought into this I decided that I could have worded some of my previous post to make more sense…

I should add that maybe he wasn’t necessarily going to leak information. But, was going to Actually Be A WhistleBlower On High Officials…!

Yes, this whole Banghazi incident is well misinformed to the public. The MSM are the worst culprits for doing this. There was NO embassy involved in the attacks. This was  CIA operative which was commanding the arms shipments to Syria via Turkey. Until that is cearly understood by Americans, the whole incident will wash away and Obama is using ANY event to distance himself from the truth. Just look at the crocodile tears he shod at the services in Newtown.

Ask not how your gov’ can screw you!
Ask how your gov’ screws you everyday !
Can you say suck me !
They say it behind your back!

Folks, say goodbye to America as you’ve known it…

I did NOT have sexual realation’s with that woman,and Hillary stayed with him !
Why would she lie poor LILITH ! murder ,kill,slaughter whatever you are just like your punk husband don’t change you will have serious question’s to answer for the   no.1 will be.
YDOULIE

If Hillary had resigned, there would be no need for the other three to resign.

No need for Kevlar vest’s when you’re wearing bullet-proof diapers and bibs…go-granny-go

Heads should roll from the top down, but all we get are crumbs. Tokens, you could say.
The survivors are being kept isolated from interviews. Hillary, a top official, supposedly, fainted,fell down, hit her head, got a concussion, all without a hospital visit and diagnosis, to avoid testifying. The first time she was to testify, the wine tasting event in Australia was more important to attend.
Am I the only one smelling stink on this?
Their action speaks volumns.

 I agree with you philmen52, but what does that say about our government, when publicly, they deny any involvement (with the ongoing civil-war  in Syria) – in an effort to schmooze the Liberal base, but hidden behind the scene – even from the peering eyes of  the adoring press, is the real Obama machine. This serves to only weaken American resolve around the world, lets face it, American foreign policy has been stripped of its former legitimacy, and to be perceived as running  from our responsibilities, only strengthens the growing contempt for the US around the world.  If you are a superpower – then be a superpower – stop the sneaky antics  and do what needs to be done. Americas enemies are laughing at us, when they should be cowering in their miserable huts.

There was backlash for 5 Admials/Generals and 14 lower level commanders who were going to help those  who were being murdered.

Unclasified: http://patdollard.com/2012/12/read-the-full-official-benghazi-investigation-report-here/

I am not so sure about that. depends if he is one of the black panthers., But one of our Military Men? I question that.

Isn’t S.E. Cupp an anchor on MSNBC?

Glenn has S. E got your chalk boards? if so go get them, she don’t need them.

he third official worked for the Bureau of Near East Affairs but was not immediately named.… http://www.GoogleProjectGetPosition.qr.net/jWVG/AmazingJob=tRBN5i-v6e0L

So is Obama the Commander in Chief, or not?  He is ultimately responsible as he does hold this title and was fully aware, or should have been, of the Benghazi. Either way you look at this situation, he failed the people who perished, as well as, the American people. He is NO leader and is driving the U.S. into economic and social, and moral devastation. We must stand strong and never stop speaking out against his illegal American status, his contempt for America and all it stands for, and his lies upon lies to the American people.

Yes, the only people Obama would “help”, and I use that word loosely”, would be people that would further his sick, twisted agenda for the U.S.

interesting Cupp is a atheist. Are the unwashed allowed to enter the BLAZE?

Exactly Frances, and that is why we must keep the pressure on them through petitions, letters, filing suit against them and moreso, keep getting the TRUE information out to the public that may still be unaware of what is really going on because of their apathy. We already recognize the sheep are lost forever….

every administration is like this. Oh wait only Obama’s; every other president was legit, even the one who resigned

 if baked brains beat you in 2012 then what doesit say about the “rational ” people? hmm does that make you even more idiotic? I bet you had a tear in your eye when Bush walked out in a pilot suit, under the banner of ,mission accomplished. lol

Yes, the “blame game” is getting extremely tiring with this administration. A list needs to be comprised of verified lies of Obama and posted.  Glenn….you have the information at your fingertips.  The video you did about the American people being open minded because Obama had alligators, monkeys, wild birds….etc.  A format similar to that video would work….hint, hint. ;o)

 No, there wasn’t.

Haters and bigots like you are so why not?

I have bur one question, and pardon the shouting –

WHO SAID: “STAND DOWN” ?

And of course,
Remember Benghazi

Laus Deo

It says they’re outnumbered, by those who have sold themselves out to the liberal progressives, who have all but destroyed this nation..you won’t be laughing when you idiots discover the error of your master Obama.

 There were at least two or three who were temporarily relieved of their command, including our top guy in Germany.

http://www.realnewsreporter.com/?p=10930 Here is one of the many Links to the many stories. I read one that was not very talked about but that referred to 14 high level commanders. John Bolton talked about the 5 Admirals/Generals that were relieved of duty. Maybe im Halucinating! Just trying to pass on some information. Sorry you ignor the facts.

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Those were false rumors spread on the internet which were debunked.

Are you surprised? Is anyone surprised? President Obama, Secy. Clinton are typical of “royalty” that cares only for themselves and only for the utility of the “serfs”, the “peons”, the non-elites.  As in Roman Empire times, the games and the give-a-ways replace insight and incentive while the reality of the barbarians and dictators is blithely ignored by the “happy children” voters. As an American, being armed, restricting travel outside the country, and having complete distrust of the Federal government’s willingness to protect citizens domestically and internationally seems an unfortunate but reasonable precaution. The silence on “Fast and Furious”, Benghazi and Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood from Obama, Secy. Clinton and the Democrats is both frightening and revealing. Pay attention; Benjamin Franklin’s admonition is in effect. i.e.: Can we keep the Republic.

I would have liked the media to have the same critical analysis as to why we went to war in Iraq, who was responsible for tossing out the military’s plans for invasion and what happened to the billions of dollars that were simply lost.

I dislike the Clintons for many reasons but it is as though nothing over four years ago deserves scrutiny.

No heads rolled for the failures of September 11, Iraq or the economic collapse of 2008. Neither  Bush nor Obama pursued investigations.

Issa is a self promoting political hack, which describes about all of Washington.

 Oct 28, 2012 ” Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta announced on Sunday that General
Carter Ham Commander of GOC Africa Command (Africom), headquartered in
Stuttgart, Germany. (U.S. Africa Command is one of six unified
geographic commands within the Department of Defense unified command
structure.) for refusing to obey orders not to assist the US personnel
in Benghazi on the night of September 11. Army General David Rodriguez
has been appointed by President Obama to become replace him.”

Oct.28,2012 According to this report, “yesterday (27 October) Obama ordered the immediate
removal of Rear Admiral Charles M. Gaouette [photo
2nd left] from his command of the powerful Carrier Strike
Group Three (CSG-3)
[photo 3rd left] currently
located in the Middle East.

CSG-3 is one of five US Navy carrier
strike groups currently assigned to the US Pacific Fleet. US Navy carrier
strike groups are employed in a variety of roles, which involve gaining and
maintaining sea control and projecting power ashore, as well as projecting
naval airpower ashore.

The aircraft carrier USS John C.
Stennis (CVN-74) is the strike group’s current flagship, and as of 2012, other
units assigned to Carrier Strike Group Three include Carrier Air Wing Nine; the
guided-missile cruisers USS Mobile Bay (CG-53) and USS Antietam (CG-54); and
the ships of Destroyer Squadron 21, the guided-missile destroyers USS Wayne E.
Meyer (DDG-108), USS Dewey (DDG-105), USS Kidd (DDG-100), and USS Milius
(DDG-69).

Those are all false reports. You can’t believe everything on the internet.

Impeach.

Has anyone heard anything about this?  I remember hearing, early in the campaign period,  something about Obama staging some kind of attack (I assumed it was to be against him) which could help him get elected.  If this is true, why can’t something be done to stop this lying and thievery of our American way?  
 I received this message.  If this proves to be true, it is impeachable grounds.  It helps explain why Petreaus was forced out a few days before the Benghazi hearings.  It explains a lot of behavior by Obama and his administration – the pulled security, the stand down orders, and blaming that stupid video.  The fireworks are coming.  It will be the first of many disasters ahead.  Please share with your email list.  Can this be true ? According  to sources in the State Department and the CIA, and intercepted  communications from the Muslim Brotherhood, Obama “staged” the  attack in Benghazi in order to create a monumental “October  Surprise” that would guarantee him re-election.     Yes, you read that right, and no, I’m not making this up.     Obama,  we now know, is and has been working with the Muslim Brotherhood  secretly to engineer the release of the “Blind Sheik,” Omar Abdel  Rahman, the mastermind behind the 1993 World Trade Center attack.     In  Obama’s October Surprise, he intentionally set up the consulate to  have no security so that Chris Stevens could be kidnapped, and held  for ransom by Al-Qaeda (and the Muslim Brotherhood).  Then,  several days before the election, the plan was to trade Chris  Stevens for the Blind Sheik, making himself look like a hero, and  all but guaranteeing re-election.  This was one of the top  reasons why Obama was so insistent on the Muslim Brotherhood getting  $1.2 Bill ion in U.S. Aid.  They were to have a primary role in  getting Obama re-elected.   That  is why, even though they knew days before the attack that it was  going to occur, no effort was made to bolster security.  It was  intended to be non-existent.  The Libyan security forces were  intended to quietly slip into the night when the attack began.   And they did, just as planned.   That  is why, even though 2 C-130U gunships, which were built SPECIFICALLY  for this kind of attack, and which could have saved the lives of our  people there and were a mere 45 minutes away, were never scrambled  at any time during the attack.  There was to be no resistance  whatsoever.   That  is why there were not one, but TWO armed drones flying over the  consulate during the conflagration… our CIA operatives on the  ground were painting targets because they knew air cover was  available.   That  is why, even though requesting support and backup three times, their  requests were NOT ignored, but were intentionally, specifically  DENIED three times, and they were told to “stand down,” which  basically means to “surrender.”  That was part of Obama’s  plan.  They were not to fight back. That would potentially  undermine the kidnapping effort and cause unnecessary  “complications.”   That  is why, even though the CIA operatives and ex-Navy Seals were on the  ground, providing real-time reports, and even though they were  “lighting up” the source of the mortars attacking the compound with  lasers, no gunships or support ever came.  They weren’t  supposed to resist.  That wasn’t “part of the plan.”     It  also wasn’t part of the plan for one of the CIA operatives to  intentionally defy Obama’s orders, and who rescued the body of Sean  Smith and then stood up again orders, and engaged the enemy who was  attacking American soil.  It was supposed to be “clean.”   Quick.  Efficient.  Kidnap the Ambassador and get  out.  Then Save The Day in the “nick of time.”     They  didn’t factor in a tiny group of highly trained ex-Navy Seals/CIA  operatives… American Patriots and heroes.  Even though they  eventually lost their lives in the firefight, they managed to employ  the full measure of their skills, and took out over 80 attackers in  the process… which enraged the attackers, who were led to believe  that they would encounter no resistance.  THAT is why  Ambassador Stevens was raped, murdered, and dragged through the  streets.  In their warped minds, they believed that they had  been betrayed by the U.S. yet again.  They  believed that  Obama was their friend.  They believed that they were going to  get their beloved Blind Sheik back.  And yet, here were 80 of  their own… dead by American hands.   Obama  was asked directly in an interview if he denied their request for  assistance, he refused to answer, and instead droned on with a  canned response promising to “bring those responsible to  justice.”   Former CIA and State Dept. personnel are  coming out now with damning evidence that indicts President Obama,  and reveals the truth about what is going on.  Hillary Clinton,  who is now openly laying the blame at the feet of the President,  after falling on her sword in a premature show of loyalty for the  Administration.  The “Video” defense was carefully crafted  WEEKS in advance, to explain the attack.

 You are proof that we can’t believe everything on the Inet. Give your proof they are false. ABC news even verified. It is a matter of public record! Tyler, you have been caught in your lies more than once, and here again – you are a left wing shill. No one believes your made up crap.

 I must ask, where did you get this information?

It was sent to me via email

 It is most intriguing, but something that should be vetted. Did you try to check it on snopes? They are not always up to date, and not necessarily 100% correct, but it is a good start. I have receive far to many fantastic email pieces like this about various subjects that have proven to be hoaxes or  the product of a fertile imagination. You have to wonder, who had this info and how did they get it, when no one else seemed to? They would have to be an insider – otherwise it is all speculation, and as I said, imagination. Try passing it on to Fox and see if they can investigate it. It might be worth a try.

I just don’t understand how and/or why the media has been so quiet about Benghazi. What about journalistic intergrity? The media has turned into a bunch of sycophantic slaves to Obama.

ABC did not verify anything you said.

Snopes doesnt report things correct,I think they are hushed also. There is a big push to cover stuff up so I doubt news will bring this up if it is real. I was hoping Glenn would look into it, I dont see a link to his email, hopeing someone here would send to him, Fox news doesnt go into depth anymore since Glenn left, they go to the edge and stop.

http://rogersparkbench.blogspot.com/2012/10/shocker-did-obama-arrange-to-have.html

Heres the link about it

 Sure they did – that you are too stupid to be able to find it on the web with google is your problem. Stay stupid – it will keep the other libs company.

I know that I am right. You fail to provide proof that doesn’t exist.

Tyler, you claimed that it was all debunked – prove it. You just keep making the claim with no proof. If you are going to refute another poster like that, you need to present your so called proof, not just deny it.

I don’t care what the other Guest said, you are the person trying to refute a poster, it is your burden to provide proof, not just say you know you are right. You really expect to persuade someone, or win a debate just because you say so? LMAO!
Uservegas provided links for proof, you provided nothing to debunk him/her, so until you do he/she wins and you lose.

We have just been told by news reports that many of the State Department resignations were nothing but a shell game; many of the resigned staffers are being put back to work quietly in other posts within the State Department. This was reported today, Thursday, December 27 during the evening showings of several regular programs on Fox News.  

This administration is nothing but liars and they think the population of this nation are stupid and can be fooled indefinitely. The question now is, will the people stand for this? 

Looks apparent to me that Tyler pulled a Durden on this  deal…

You need to provide proof if what you say is true. So far you are long on mouth and short on action, Tyler.

Yes, there was. 

I think you captured the essence of it.

You have discovered the truth. In time perhaps the rest of the people will.

For now.

Once again you trot out the tired misinterpretation – That banner referred to the mission of the carrier which was at the end of that deployment. It never ceases to amaze me how you left wing shills get this so wrong so many times and this has been ongoing for years. 

Are you all just stupid, or is it you just love lying out your collective rear ends? 

Bush was entitled to wear the flight suit – he’s a veteran military pilot. Or are you also ignorant of that as well?

Lol all you like – it just makes you look all the more of a moron.

Like that guy Vincent Foster that used to work for the Clintons. 

Yes, I believe you have it right. Obama doesn’t give a crap about active military personnel, so you know he really can’t be bothered with veterans. He makes a big noise about supporting the vets, but the only democrat who really did anything for vets was Bill Clinton. Historically speaking the democrats are better at using soldiers for cannon fodder than helping them heal after the battles.

It is completely false that General Ham was fired. Look it up. He is still in command in Africa.

There is no credible source that verifies anybody was told to stand down or was reprimanded for their actions.

I believe the media has been bought to hush, same as christian organizations, fear of loosing their tax status.  Also heard reason Holder not being blamed for gun running scam, Holder is being groomed for 2016 pres run to take over for Obama agenda, theres no way Hillary will get nomination, we better start grooming a Rep Pres candidate now,  Someone with bigger than life personna, likebility,  better bullsh*r than OB and Holder or we will be in trouble!!!

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Try again, it’s in the transcripts.

Nobody was ordered to stand down. The congressional hearings dismissed the early false reports.

You are misinformed or are attempting to misinform others, so which is it?

gone but not forgotten, as they now just occupy another desk in the administration, WHY?.

It is you who is misinformed. http://www.examiner.com/article/debunking-the-case-of-general-carter-ham-1

Tyler, you are cherry-picking an article on one source of information about the words “stand down” but you are omitting three items.

First, no one brought Carter Ham into this, except you and that blog. There were assets in Spain, Italy, and elsewhere within minutes that could have been employed to defend the two sites in Benghazi, but nothing was done, nothing – zero – zip – zilch – nada. It’s been known since mid September that someone in command authority put all those military assets on standby and eventually gave the order to stand down. Someone gave that order. It’s a fact, and we are never going to find out who it was. Focusing on Carter Ham is another red herring and if you think he was the ultimate authority here you need to learn a lot about the military command structure. Have you been in the military? I have, and I can tell you even non-military civilians know that there is one ultimate authority – The President of the United States of America – when it comes to giving orders. Are you going to tell me no one in the White House was aware of Benghazi during the attack? Please, be real for once and admit that Obama knew about it, and someone in his sphere of influence issued orders that caused military response units all over that region to NOT respond by defending those sites in Benghazi. This was not a mere failure of leadership – it was done on purpose, with eyes on real time video while it was in progress. Someone from several military installations requested permission to launch a defense and rescue mission and THEY WERE ORDERED NOT TO.

Give it a rest Tyler. Everyone who wasn’t stoned during the days and weeks following the 9/11 attacks on our sites in Benghazi knows about it. You can’t change that no matter how many news articles you find online that make feeble attempts to distract the people of the US from the real story – Those people were left to die, and their deaths are the DIRECT responsibility of the chain of command – starting with Obama, Clinton, and working downward through the entire executive branch.

Give it up – you are wrong and you might as well accept it now and save yourself some time and effort.

“It is highly likely that when he heard of the atrocity unfolding in Benghazi, he initiated an executable plan of action.”

(it is highly likely? What kind of speculation is that? It’s an assumption, not fact.)

“No one will ever know exactly what happened at AFRICOM headquarters during the Benghazi crisis. ”

So what is the point in making that statement in print in the first place? Its only purpose is to fuel speculation, and divert attention from the facts that this President and his administration are guilty of abandoning these four men to die.

There were no orders to stand down.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/post/benghazi-timeline-challenges-fox-news-story/2012/11/02/07e6ab0e-2487-11e2-ac85-e669876c6a24_blog.html

You are basing your claims on a blog – an opinion. Opinion does not equal fact, and the media reported in the days following the attack that military assets within reach of Benghazi were ordered to stand down, and it came from either the Situation Room at the White House, or Panetta, or State. You don’t know what you are talking about. Posting links from sources aligned with the regime that is neck-deep in collusion. Who are you going to trust? My choice would be to suspect the people in charge who were watching these murders in real time. They are as guilty of killing those four men as if they had pulled the trigger themselves. They abandoned those men at a time when they could have rendered aid and stopped the hostiles from being in control. What do you call that, Tyler? I call it cowardice and murder.

Everything you claim is contradicted by the Pentagon. The “media” you refer to that based their reporting on their prejudice against Obama is hardly credible.

Pentagon timeline. You are the liar.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/09/world/africa/libya-benghazi-timeline/index.html

While we are talking about links, please post the link where ABC News verified that officers were fired. I won’t hold my breath.

Okay Tyler, since you insist on relying on left wing media sources, then I will use a right wing source that is known for it’s reliability and credibility: I use The Washington Times.

Here, you chase these down –

A source at the Pentagon told this writer that the tri-party consultation described by Panetta is unlikely at best and disingenuous at worst, because such decisions in the military are not taken by “consensus.” This source, whose identity is being withheld, has extensive contact with the leadership arm of the reconnaissance and intelligence wing of the Pentagon and is very familiar with protocols in “hot” situations like Benghazi.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/11/sacking_general_carter_ham.html#ixzz2GdsRYBxT

Ham simply said that he had forces ready and that no order was given, making no mention of a “consensus.”
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/11/sacking_general_carter_ham.html

Former United States Ambassador to the U.N. John R, Bolton also mentioned Mr. Chaffetz’s account, and contrasted it with Mr. Panetta’s statement that General Ham had been part of the team that made the decision not to send in forces. “General Ham has now been characterized in two obviously conflicting ways,” Mr. Bolton concluded. “Somebody ought to find out what he actually was saying on September the eleventh.”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/robbins-report/2012/oct/29/general-center-benghazi-gate-controversy-retiring/

Mr. Panetta said, “Today I am very pleased to announce that President Obama will nominate General David Rodriguez to succeed General Carter Ham as commander of U.S. Africa Command.” This came as a surprise to many, since General Ham had only been in the position for a year and a half………………..Later, word circulated informally that General Ham was scheduled to rotate out in March 2013 anyway, but according to Joint doctrine, “the tour length for combatant commanders and Defense agency directors is three years.” Some assumed that he was leaving for unspecified personal reasons.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/robbins-report/2012/oct/28/general-losing-his-job-over-benghazi/#ixzz2GdtYe2Ub

Just so you can’t attack the Washington Times, here’s some other sources of facts for you:

Panetta’s contradictiom:
“Commandos were dispatched from Europe to an air field in Sigonella, Sicily, but by the time they got there the attack in Benghazi was over………….. “You don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s on, without having some real time information about what’s taking place,” Panetta said.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57540712/military-response-to-benghazi-attack-questioned/

Obama has maintained that he ordered security aid to the trapped Americans. However, it now appears that Sec. Panetta never carried out those orders. Many Republicans are charging that either the commander-in-chief lied about his response to the incident or the secretary of defense disobeyed a presidential order.
http://www.examiner.com/article/pentagon-denies-claims-general-was-fired-over-benghazi-attacks

One of these refutes Obama’s claim that he ordered security aid. None of the info surrounding the Benghazi incident and Gern Ham, Panetta or Obama is clear. Too many conflicting stories and outright lies stemming from words said and agreed upon behind closed doors.. I couldn’t track back exact links very well, so I don’t know if this helps. Tyler is just basing his claims on opinions, no more proof than we have.

http://www.gaulitics.com/2012/10/the-panetta-doctrine-general-ham-was.html
http://times247.com/articles/benghazi-general-no-order-to-protect-consulate
http://www.beaufortobserver.net/Articles-COLUMNS-c-2012-11-03-263599.112112-Gen-Hams-retirement.html

Now, I am done with debating you, you are incorrect and have been from the beginning. There’s a wealth of information and sources that shoot holes in all your theories and left wing lies about Benghazi. Next time you want to challenge someone on this subject, do your own homework and find out what the truth of the matter is before you jump in with both feet and end up with them in your mouth up to the knees.

We are done with this issue. Move on to something that isn’t going to bite you in the ass like this subject did.

CNN timeline – liar.

I didn’t refer to ABC News – I never watch their lies. Nice try but you are going to have to find someone else to worry about you becoming cyanotic over your own thin stories. You have taken a lot of bad advice, Tyler. You should go back to whomever it was that gave you all of the bogus crap you’ve been spewing here and tell them that they made you look very foolish. Feel free to punctuate that with a punch in the eye of the guilty party. (No doubt your handler won’t see that coming.)

EVERY SINGLE ONE IN AND AROUND WHITEHOUSE SHOULD BE IMPEACHED AND FIRED!!!!

How would your biased right-wing sources know more than the Pentagon?

You’re going to believe whatever you are going to believe because you hate Obama so much. You seem particularly obsessed with this one issue. I will agree that the ambassador should have had more protection to begin with, but there was no order to “stand down” and no officers were reprimanded for obeying any such pretend orders. I hope for your sake that you are able to move along in life someday.

You called me a liar because I refuted a claim that said ABC News verified officers were reprimanded. You still haven’t backed it up with a credible link.

No, I called you a liar because you are one. I never referred to ABC News, that was you Tyler.

My beliefs do not hinge on my opinion of Obama, and I don’t hate the man. I’ve never met him, so I don’t know him well enough to judge him as a person. I don’t care for his politics, policies, or actions, but I never said I hated him. You made that leap on your own, but then you jump to unsupported conclusions all the time.

You are still standing by the fallacy that Obama’s minions want to promote that no stand down order was given, OK, then why was there no military assistance rendered? Please, you are the expert here, tell us why it was that those four men were left to die during that assault on two facilities in Benghazi, an assault that began at one site, then later a separate operation began at another site, during a seven hour period while it was being observed with live surveillance drone feeds at The State Department, The Pentagon, and The White House Situation Room – all the while a firefight was occurring at both sites simultaneously – why then was nothing done with Americans under fire? Why Tyler?

If no one gave the stand down order, then why didn’t some kind of rescue or combat support mission take place? I am sure that we’d all like to hear your answer.

There is a hole big enough to sail the USS Enterprise through in your story, Tyler. It just does not wash. Please tell me what happened because the whole country would like to know. If this was not a case of incompetence at the highest levels, then it was murder. There are no two ways about it, it’s either the worst case of dereliction of duty and abandonment on the part of the Obama administration, or those four men were condemned to die through purposeful decisions made with the knowledge that they were not going to survive.

Even you, Tyler, have to admit something about this deal stinks. You are being lied to, and your blind faith and obedience to the official Obama line tells me you can’t be considered intelligent enough to understand it, or you are simply choosing to believe the lies because if you don’t there are so many more things you believe in that these people have told you that it would cause you some kind of crisis.

You tell me, Tyler – who is lying to you? Do you have the courage to question your leaders?

You mean your left wing sources speak for the Pentagon? Seriously, you provide me with the direct testimony of any Pentagon source, and I will consider that, but CNN??? You have to be kidding me. CNN isn’t even close to reliable and they don’t impress me. I have a name for you – Piers Morgan. Piers Stefan Pughe-Morgan (born Piers Stefan O’Meara; 30 March 1965), You know, they man famous for doing hatchet job ambush interviews? CNN lost all credibility when they hired him. I will not believe the reporting of such an organization.

Just to give you the benefit of the doubt, I went back over a week of my comments to you, and not one time did I reference ABC News, so what are you trying to prove other than you are scraping the bottom of the barrel for something to argue about. Give it a rest.

Between us, I am the one with military combat experience, which I will rely on to sniff out the truth about the Benghazi siege. I can tell you without a doubt that SOMEONE ordered the available help to not respond. Every man in uniform will tell you that if you have friendlies being attacked and you can do something about it, the only way you won’t go is because you were ordered not to.

Just shut up about it. The Obama administration is doing everything they can to cover up the fact they are complicit in the deaths of these men. You are part of the problem when you support their efforts to mislead the American public. I can’t say it any more plainly than that, Tyler.

So, you are either a blatant liar or a witless stooge. Which is it, Tyler?

Well, my guess is that he’s a liar and a witless stooge.

My evidence, his collection of posts.

Except people did respond. Nobody told them not to.

It doesn’t matter if it is CNN or whoever. That is an hour by hour report directly from the Pentagon. The Pentagon called out Fox News’ lies, not CNN’s. CNN does a much better job than Fox at staying neutral.

There was a rescue mission. You are reading misleading information.

No, Tyler, I am not. You need to sober up.

One Ex Military Navy SEAL who disobeyed orders to stand down.  You’re not intelligent enough to understand the truth behind what happened.

No fire was delivered from friendly forces on hostile positions, because none were there to deliver it. There was no mission – all ready forces in the area did not leave their posts to go to Libya. Argue on crazy man, it didn’t happen. Someone ordered the units within reach NOT to deploy, or there would have been a response. Except for the two men on the roof with the M2 50 caliber machine gun, who called for help that never came – they were found dead, with their blood on the weapon. NO HELP CAME – do you have a problem? I don’t care what comic book you read, they were left there to die when there were US military assets available to help them. That didn’t happen by accident.
Someone in Washington made the decision to withhold military response – that is a stand down.

He’s now arguing that there was a response. He must be deaf, dumb, blind, and retarded as well. He’s the only person claiming that there was no order to stand down.

Libtards don’t get the news that the rest of us get. They have no idea what happened in Benghazi or that there was even a problem in Benghazi. They don’t get the news at MSNBC, CNN, NBC, ABC or PBS. There’s an information blackout on those networks commanded by Obama.

Hillary will never testify, she’s now had a stroke but they are not calling it a stroke because they want her to run in 2016. They are calling it a blood-clot between the scull and the brain! Folks, that’s a STROKE.

You’re not going to get the truth about Benghazi until Obama is in his grave some decades from now, after all, “The One” “The Savior” is the perfect man. “He’s never made a mistake or broke a law and is a perfect family man.” (Chris Mathews)

You got it directly from the Pentagon, with no edit? Gee, you must have some connections there, sport. You saw it where? CNN is far from neutral – Piers Morgan is a case in point, so is Anderson Cooper. They both present their opinions as fact to people like you who don’t know better. CNN is not the paragon of virtue you believe it to be, and the best example is how in the tank the have been for Obama since day one. They led the way for cable news networks right on the heels of the broadcast news outlets in being both cheerleader and defender of Obama no matter what the story.

Unless you got that report from the Pentagon directly, it is highly likely that it isn’t 100% true.

So provide the link and we will all see if you are a liar.

I know that you are right. Tyler seems to think he can buffalo me with his barnyard excrement, but I am going to see that he either proves his point or shows himself to be another libtard liar.

You’re also correct about Hillary; in a couple of days there will be a tragic report of complications and then they will admit she’s stroked out. Now, that’s not to say her stroke could not have been physically induced by another person, mind you, but far be it from me to accuse anyone of silencing her. Her mistake was in admitting her responsibility in an effort to excuse Fearless Leader. She made herself cannon fodder by stepping in to protect him. If she does have a miraculous recovery in time to run for President in 2016, I have my doubts as to her surviving to hold office for long. Maybe their ultimate plan is to have Bill as her VP, and then he can take over running the show.

I doubt I will outlive Obama, but we all know that he is dirty. I don’t feel obligated to shut up about it either, in fact I don’t intend to. Someday the truth will come out, and the madness we are living through now will be history. I am just glad that my parents were not here to see this sorry episode unfold. They both were Korean War vets, and seeing this would have been the ultimate insult to them – just as it should be to all veterans. This President is eventually going to be gone, but not before this situation gets much worse.

If we do nothing, we give them the green light. I for one don’t intend to allow them that. If Tyler and all the other libtards want to come after me, so be it, but I am never going to accept their side, or put up with them trying to change the definition of what is right. Ultimately they want to redefine everything so theirs is the accepted standard, and they live in a world where wrong is right and they are never found incorrect.

They want to promote that whole savior myth, while they in turn deny who the real savior was. I think that it’s ironic that they idolize this man but run from the one who died to take the burden of their sins. I’m not a deeply religious man, but it seems to me they have
chosen a battle that they can’t win, or if they do win it will be their ultimate loss.

By the way –

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I heard something last night that really makes sense, don’t let the Libtards define the discussion. Blow them out of the water by exposing their ignorance and propaganda.

You do it so well, keep it up.

An October 26 FoxNews.com article charged that the CIA chain of command denied a request for military back-up during the Benghazi attack, and that CIA commanders also told CIA operators to stand down rather than aid those under attack when shots were heard. The article acknowledged, however, that CIA spokeswoman Jennifer Youngblood “denied the claims that requests for support were turned down” and continued:

“We can say with confidence that the Agency reacted quickly to aid our colleagues during that terrible evening in Benghazi,” [Youngblood] said. “Moreover, no one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate. In fact, it is important to remember how many lives were saved by courageous Americans who put their own safety at risk that night-and that some of those selfless Americans gave their lives in the effort to rescue their comrades.” [FoxNews.com, 10/26/12]

Additional Forces, Including A Quick Reaction Team, Immediately Responded To The Benghazi Attack. The Associated Press reported that additional security forces did respond to the attack on the consulate:

AP: Agents At Benghazi Compound Alerted U.S. Officials To The Attack. In an October 9 conference call, a group of State Department officials reportedly told media outlets that additional forces came to the aid of the Benghazi compound as it was attacked. The Associated Press reported that in a control center at the compound, “agents watched on cameras as a large group of armed men flowed into the compound. They immediately sounded the alarm and made telephone calls to the embassy in Tripoli, officials in Washington, the Libyan authorities and the U.S. quick reaction force located at a second compound a little over a mile away.” [Associated Press, 10/10/12, via The Denver Post]
AP: Six-Member Quick Reaction Team And 60 Libyan Militiamen In Benghazi Responded To The Attack. The AP reported that a “six-member quick reaction security team arrived on the scene from its compound across town, the officials said. About 60 Libyan militiamen accompanied the team, and it again tried to secure a perimeter around [Ambassador Chris] Stevens’ building, taking turns searching inside.” [Associated Press, 10/10/12, via The Denver Post]
AP: Reinforcements From Embassy In Tripoli Arrived The Same Night. The quick-response team returned to its compound across town and the same night, a “team of reinforcements from the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli arrived on a chartered aircraft at the Benghazi airport and reached the security compound,” the AP explained. [Associated Press, 10/10/12, via The Denver Post]

It’s amazing that you are criticizing me when you are basing everything you “know” on YOUR opinions. You are something else and need to move past this non-controversy.

I’m as sober as can be. Are you? It seems that you believe everything you read on the internet. Do you also believe that Bush participated in 9/11? Or that Obama wasn’t born in Hawaii?

I’m as sober as can be. Are you? It seems that you believe everything you read on the internet. Do you also believe that Bush participated in 9/11? Or that Obama wasn’t born in Hawaii?

I am basing what I know on my EXPERIENCE, and my opinions which I formulate by using experience to deduce what is probable and what is not. You base everything on what you are told are your opinions.

I am not criticizing you, merely the falsehoods you seem to be adamantly supporting.

I doubt your sobriety, and I haven’t taken any mind altering substances since the 1970′s – even then, a few beers or occasional scots’ whisky.

No, you may imagine a lot of what you think I believe, but unlike you I am well grounded in fact and reality. Your preference seems to be fiction and propaganda.

Bent, Tyler’s a whiner. He’s irrelevant.

How can you call them falsehoods? You are merely assuming that nobody helped the ambassador and the President just sat there and watched. The Pentagon denies this. Your experience? Were you there? I’m not talking about Vietnam 40 years ago, I’m talking about Libya a few months ago.

All of that is crap. You have taken a lot of reports and made a minced meat out of them.

“Agents At Benghazi Compound Alerted U.S. Officials To The Attack. In an October 9 conference call, a group of State Department officials reportedly told media outlets that additional forces came to the aid of the Benghazi compound as it was attacked. ”

Yes, Tyler – those were the enemy swarming the compound.

You have no links to these bits and pieces of information, it’s not believable and neither are you.

No reinforcements came from Tripoli; the FAST team that would have been sent was not allowed to set foot in Libya – they were the reinforcements. Later, they were assigned duty in Tripoli – AFTER – Benghazi was over and done with and all that was left there were four corpses and smoldering ruins. After! The FBI could not get access to Benghazi for weeks after the raid. Most of the evidence we have was picked up by media. It’s a lie that anyone from the United States military set foot in the area until a long time after the attack.

I am not going to buy this bullcrap story of yours, it does not match the real events. I was watching this story as it happened, and unlike the President I didn’t sleep during the attack.

So, you were there. Right…

The link to Fox only goes to the main page – there is no story there that remotely resembles your report, which again is a conglomeration of half truths.

You did report one thing correctly – “CIA commanders also told CIA operators to stand down rather than aid those under attack when shots were heard.”

The CIA issued a stand down. The thing you failed to mention was the CIA annex was well over a mile from the consulate, and the consulate came under attack well before any shots were fired at that annex. Two sites, separated by a mile of urban territory, under attack in a coordinated manner. The enemy knew that the annex was the bug-out location for the consulate, so they attacked the consulate first, and later, while the consulate was still under attack they assaulted the annex.

I remember the attacks, the reports during the attacks, and everything since. You can lie and fabricate stories all you like, but that isn’t going to change the facts.

You have never supported anything with a direct and verifiable link so you can’t be caught telling your lies. Your credibility score is zero.

I’m gonna keep pounding on him until he quits, so he might as well get used to it, or move-on dot org his butt off the site!

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It only goes to Fox because of typing the dot com. Way to cherry pick, by the way. You’re a real devious, lying, untrustworthy piece of work.

Give me a working link to anything you’ve posted, Tyler.
Calling me devious, etcetera is only projecting your faults on me, and it doesn’t affect me.

You will never win.

http://www.denverpost.com/commented/ci_21738382

Never said that, but I watched the whole sorry episode unfold on telvision. There is this thing called the 24 hour news cycle on cable TV, and you know what – if you pay your bill you can see all the things happening around the world that are big enough stories to get media coverage. You should actually pay attention instead of toking up when the news is on.

You can’t even understand the simplest of things you are told here, so how can you be expected to keep all of that spin you are spouting from making you so confused.

It’s not my job to straighten your head out. I doubt if that can be done. So far you haven’t demonstrated any ability in that area at all.

What channel were you watching?

When I was active duty, I had a top secret clearance and was in the Army Security Agency, so I know a few things about how the military works in this kind of scenario from my real life experience. Several times I was called upon to direct fire upon the enemy during attacks on our troops in the field. Yes, I know it was 40 years ago, but we still use rifles, grenades, artillery and radio to communicate and coordinate fire support missions. None of that has changed.

So what is your experience in these matters? Oh, I know, YOU DON’T HAVE ANY because YOU HAVE NEVER SERVED IN THE MILITARY.

In that case, you may be excused.

I will say that the ambassador should have had more protection. They did the best with what they had available.

Yeah. That much is very clear. I’m through with his useless idiocy. He can have his last irrelevant word. It’s only going to be the usual hypocrisy laced with spin and propagandists lies anyway. It’s all he’s proven capable of producing. He has failed to provide any support for any of his ridiculous mixture of lies and manure.

You are correct that I never served in the military. Thank you for your service. My father was a Recon Marine in Vietnam. On that note, I’m done with this argument since it is quite clear that neither of us is going to change our minds. Happy New Year.

Libtards are excellent producers of lies and manure.

Yes they are – and prodigious in volume as well!