Comments on: Glenn unveils his most ambitious and visionary dream: Independence http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/01/10/take-a-tour-of-glenns-visionary-plans-for-independence/ The Fusion of Entertainment and Enlightenment Wed, 22 May 2013 18:24:00 -0400 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Daniel Walker http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/01/10/take-a-tour-of-glenns-visionary-plans-for-independence/#comment-240770 Daniel Walker Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:19:00 +0000 /?p=41892#comment-240770 How naive to lump all those men together just because they wanted a place to gather all the people who had the same beliefs together in the same place. How naive to lump all those men together just because they wanted a place to gather all the people who had the same beliefs together in the same place.

]]> By: Daniel Walker http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/01/10/take-a-tour-of-glenns-visionary-plans-for-independence/#comment-240769 Daniel Walker Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:18:00 +0000 /?p=41892#comment-240769 Then why are you here following him or listening to what he's saying? Then why are you here following him or listening to what he’s saying?

]]> By: Daniel Walker http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/01/10/take-a-tour-of-glenns-visionary-plans-for-independence/#comment-240761 Daniel Walker Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:01:00 +0000 /?p=41892#comment-240761  “Wisdom shouts in the street;  in the public square she raises her voice.21 Above the noisy crowd, she calls out.    At the entrances of the city gates, she has her say:22 “How long will you clueless people love your naïveté,    mockers hold their mocking dear,    and fools hate knowledge?23 You should respond when I correct you.    Look, I’ll pour out my spirit on you.    I’ll reveal my words to you.24 I invited you, but you rejected me;    I stretched out my hand to you,    but you paid no attention.25 You ignored all my advice,    and you didn’t want me to correct you.26 So I’ll laugh at your disaster;    I’ll make fun of you when dread comes over you,27         when terror hits you like a hurricane,        and your disaster comes in like a tornado,        when distress and oppression overcome you.28 Then they will call me, but I won’t answer;    they will seek me, but won’t find me29         because they hated knowledge        and didn’t choose the fear of the Lord.30 They didn’t want my advice;    they rejected all my corrections.31 They will eat from the fruit of their way,    and they’ll be full of their own schemes.32 The immature will die because they turn away;    smugness will destroy fools.33 Those who obey me will dwell securely,    untroubled by the dread of harm." (Proverbs 1:20-33)  “Wisdom shouts in the street;  in the public square she raises her voice.21 Above the noisy crowd, she calls out.    At the entrances of the city gates, she has her say:22 “How long will you clueless people love your naïveté,    mockers hold their mocking dear,    and fools hate knowledge?23 You should respond when I correct you.    Look, I’ll pour out my spirit on you.    I’ll reveal my words to you.24 I invited you, but you rejected me;    I stretched out my hand to you,    but you paid no attention.25 You ignored all my advice,    and you didn’t want me to correct you.26 So I’ll laugh at your disaster;    I’ll make fun of you when dread comes over you,27         when terror hits you like a hurricane,        and your disaster comes in like a tornado,        when distress and oppression overcome you.28 Then they will call me, but I won’t answer;    they will seek me, but won’t find me29         because they hated knowledge        and didn’t choose the fear of the Lord.30 They didn’t want my advice;    they rejected all my corrections.31 They will eat from the fruit of their way,    and they’ll be full of their own schemes.32 The immature will die because they turn away;    smugness will destroy fools.33 Those who obey me will dwell securely,    untroubled by the dread of harm.”
(Proverbs 1:20-33)

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/01/10/take-a-tour-of-glenns-visionary-plans-for-independence/#comment-217188 Anonymous Thu, 07 Feb 2013 06:34:00 +0000 /?p=41892#comment-217188 This just REEKS of L. Ron Hubbard, Jim Jones, David Koresh, Warren Jeffs, Aum Shinrikyo, and many, many other deranged lunatics who mix twisted religious fervor with socio-political separatism. This is absolute proof (among other evidence) that Glenn Beck is a certifiable nut case plagued with "Nazi Turrets" and grade-A narcism. It amazes me that his "fans" continue to wallow in his anti-government, end of the world, New World Order paranoid rants. The only thing this buffoon is good for is fodder for late night satire.  This just REEKS of L. Ron Hubbard, Jim Jones, David Koresh, Warren Jeffs, Aum Shinrikyo, and many, many other deranged lunatics who mix twisted religious fervor with socio-political separatism. This is absolute proof (among other evidence) that Glenn Beck is a certifiable nut case plagued with “Nazi Turrets” and grade-A narcism. It amazes me that his “fans” continue to wallow in his anti-government, end of the world, New World Order paranoid rants. The only thing this buffoon is good for is fodder for late night satire. 

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/01/10/take-a-tour-of-glenns-visionary-plans-for-independence/#comment-215940 Anonymous Tue, 05 Feb 2013 13:36:00 +0000 /?p=41892#comment-215940 This is very cool.  The Ranch, which consumes very little acreage, will provide food for the whole town. That is amazing, considering the present agriculture that requires so much more land.  And that a person who knows nothing about food designed it is amazing.  All food will be local.  We want be consuming tropical foods like bananas, chocolate, coffee, avocados, oranges.  This is good.   And providing all your energy by alternative means, wind turbines, is grand.  And I really appreciate censoring and prohibiting all the liberal media.   Go Freedom!!!! This is very cool.  The Ranch, which consumes very little acreage, will provide food for the whole town. That is amazing, considering the present agriculture that requires so much more land.  And that a person who knows nothing about food designed it is amazing.  All food will be local.  We want be consuming tropical foods like bananas, chocolate, coffee, avocados, oranges.  This is good.   And providing all your energy by alternative means, wind turbines, is grand.  And I really appreciate censoring and prohibiting all the liberal media.   Go Freedom!!!!

]]> By: Bo Wang http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/01/10/take-a-tour-of-glenns-visionary-plans-for-independence/#comment-215909 Bo Wang Tue, 05 Feb 2013 08:45:00 +0000 /?p=41892#comment-215909 how would this actually work?  how would each household get the essential services?  Electricity?  Water?  Waste removal?  What about other "creature" comforts, like a table, or a bed or windows in your home?  Will there have to be cabinet makers and window makers?  window making without the aid of modernized large factories is very time consuming and dangerous. What about clothing or shoes?  I guess this community will have to have its own cotton fields and cattle for leather, but again how it is going to get the crops from the field to each person if there's no trucks or fuel?  I guess there needs to be automotive factories and oil well and refineries.  Should the oil refiner be regulated before they start drilling to prevent them from polluting or after people get sick and die?  How will the refinery worker be compensated or the car maker?  I'm assuming you can't effectively drill or refine oil and you can not build a car by your self.  Oh an where would one get the iron and aluminium and other metals needed to manufacture a car or build any machines for that matter. By the way have you ever tried farming?  Being subject to the weather and soil condition doesn't sound like fun and how does a farmer who raises crops turn his excess production into shoes for his family or a window? Will we have to go to a pure barter system?  and what about the media arm of becktopia?  Since they don't produce a physical good that can be traded, how will they eat in this society?   What about health care, how will a doctor do his/her job with out modern medicine?  Most of the modern drugs we have today are purely synthetic and can not be replicated by natural means.  OK I guess we are going to need some kind of manufacturing for medicines.  OK then what about the ingredients then for medicines?...   Lets say there's no way for you to be completely self sufficient and you have to trade with the outside world, why would any one in their right mind want to trade with people with little to no industrial scale products, precious metals or other natural resources?  Or at least don't have the capability to develop those resources even if they did have them? You can continue to ask yourself these questions until you realize that Glenn Beck and anyone who thinks having a community like this makes a lick of sense are totally illogical.  I do agree with one thing that Glenn Beck said, he wants us to to go back to a simpler time.  Yep if you follow his plan, you would, you'd go back about 200 years.   how would this actually work?  how would each household get the essential services?  Electricity?  Water?  Waste removal?  What about other “creature” comforts, like a table, or a bed or windows in your home?  Will there have to be cabinet makers and window makers?  window making without the aid of modernized large factories is very time consuming and dangerous.

What about clothing or shoes?  I guess this community will have to have its own cotton fields and cattle for leather, but again how it is going to get the crops from the field to each person if there’s no trucks or fuel?  I guess there needs to be automotive factories and oil well and refineries.  Should the oil refiner be regulated before they start drilling to prevent them from polluting or after people get sick and die?  How will the refinery worker be compensated or the car maker?  I’m assuming you can’t effectively drill or refine oil and you can not build a car by your self.  Oh an where would one get the iron and aluminium and other metals needed to manufacture a car or build any machines for that matter.

By the way have you ever tried farming?  Being subject to the weather and soil condition doesn’t sound like fun and how does a farmer who raises crops turn his excess production into shoes for his family or a window? Will we have to go to a pure barter system?  and what about the media arm of becktopia?  Since they don’t produce a physical good that can be traded, how will they eat in this society?  

What about health care, how will a doctor do his/her job with out modern medicine?  Most of the modern drugs we have today are purely synthetic and can not be replicated by natural means.  OK I guess we are going to need some kind of manufacturing for medicines.  OK then what about the ingredients then for medicines?…  

Lets say there’s no way for you to be completely self sufficient and you have to trade with the outside world, why would any one in their right mind want to trade with people with little to no industrial scale products, precious metals or other natural resources?  Or at least don’t have the capability to develop those resources even if they did have them?

You can continue to ask yourself these questions until you realize that Glenn Beck and anyone who thinks having a community like this makes a lick of sense are totally illogical.  I do agree with one thing that Glenn Beck said, he wants us to to go back to a simpler time.  Yep if you follow his plan, you would, you’d go back about 200 years.  

]]> By: TheSluffabout http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/01/10/take-a-tour-of-glenns-visionary-plans-for-independence/#comment-215840 TheSluffabout Tue, 05 Feb 2013 02:43:00 +0000 /?p=41892#comment-215840 Right or left, once you start talking utopian compounds it's all only a punchbowl away from making headlines... Right or left, once you start talking utopian compounds it’s all only a punchbowl away from making headlines…

]]> By: H.P. Loathecraft http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/01/10/take-a-tour-of-glenns-visionary-plans-for-independence/#comment-215397 H.P. Loathecraft Sun, 03 Feb 2013 05:19:00 +0000 /?p=41892#comment-215397 Book your mover early for better rates. Book your mover early for better rates.

]]> By: H.P. Loathecraft http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/01/10/take-a-tour-of-glenns-visionary-plans-for-independence/#comment-215396 H.P. Loathecraft Sun, 03 Feb 2013 05:16:00 +0000 /?p=41892#comment-215396 Apparently you haven't glugged sufficient Kool-Aid. Drink up, my man. Apparently you haven’t glugged sufficient Kool-Aid. Drink up, my man.

]]> By: H.P. Loathecraft http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/01/10/take-a-tour-of-glenns-visionary-plans-for-independence/#comment-215395 H.P. Loathecraft Sun, 03 Feb 2013 05:08:00 +0000 /?p=41892#comment-215395 Little Somalia. I just hope it attracts every conservative on the planet. Little Somalia. I just hope it attracts every conservative on the planet.

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