Comments on: Results of TheBlaze gun poll

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 18 Jan 2013 06:51:00 +0000

Reply to sparducks. I’ve read the info at the http://www.countysheriffproject.org that you suggested.It has been my experience as a 25 year veteran in Law Enforcement ( and not at the local or county/parish level) that having assisted local Chiefs of Police and Sheriffs you can’t get any 3 of them to agree on anything.Especially when it comes to how each of them runs their own Departments. I’m sure you are correct in the total number,but considering their vast differences, varied bacgrounds, political afflications and often contenious relationships between counties/parishes(unwillingness to cooroperate even in investigations and share resources) that getting that many to come together to support each other is indeed mind boggling. It’s a nice dream,but an imposssible task. If you believe putting your hope in a Sheriff’s association for stopping Obama is your answer. I wish you luck. As you also suggested in your reference to Mack/Printz/vs the US I read the entire court case from the 9th circuit and the Supreme Court including the Justices decision. The 9th circuit court found that none of the provisions of the “Brady Act regarding “Backgroung checks” was unconstitutional. The whole gist of the case was based on the two Sheriff’s going to court to stop the Federal government—Congress from using them to do background checks on people buying guns. After the 9th circuit, it went to the Supreme Court. In an earlier case, New York vs the United States 505US144 (1992) the Supreme Court ruled that the Federal government,Congress, may not compl the states to enact or administer a Federal regulatory program. The Supreme Court In Printz Vs the United States had to consider three aspects in making their deision:” In the historical understanding” of the question in the constitution. “In practice” with regards to the constitution and “In the structure” of the constitution itself. The court had to review: the Brady Act, the 10th amendment, the “Commerence Clause”, the Federalist papers, and the Supremacy Clause of the constitution. (You should read these) In the end, the Supreme court stated/ruled that ” Congress can’t compel the states to enact or enforce a federal regulation program.” So the two sheriffs each in their in own counties do not have to do background checks for people buying guns as part of a federal program. They won! So in so far as Supreme Court is assembled TODAY that ruling will stand. Congress decides how many justices sit on the court. It has ranged anywhere from 5 to 10 over the years. The make up of the court (liberal vs conservative) basicly depends on who gets appointed by the President and approved by congress. Although conservative judges have voted liberal— so just because they were appointed by a Republican president doesn’t mean they will vote that way. The Printz ruling will stand until the make up or number of justices changes and becomes even more liberal. Congress is:the Senate and the House of Reps . The Democrats have a majority there and in the House the Republicans are losing seats and have given in to the President on several fronts.. Note! Obama Care is a Federal regulatory program that the Supreme court ruled is constitutional and will be implemented by the States. Didn’t the ruling in Printz say the government couldn’t do that ? Doesn’t the 10 amendment say that the constitution poses no limitations on the exercise of “delegated powers” ,but merely prohibits the exercise of those powers “not delegated to the United States” In other words those powers not delegated by the constitution to the federal government belong to the states–”States rights” How did Obama Care and Row vs Wade become law ? The Supreme Court! 9 Justices appointed for life.The “Commerce Clause” authorizes congress to regulate interstate commerence Directly,but does not authorize congress to regulate state government regulation of interstate commerence. The Federal government side steps the commernce clause by using national safety and regulating the trucking industry ,by using the EPA, the Energy Dept, and a host of other agencies to by pass the constitution.As I noted earlier, Obama will use whatever it takes to either by pass the constitution or get rid of it. If there is no constitutuion or he ignores it he will do what he wants.Like when he issues an executive order for example as he recently did with having your doctor report if you own a gun in his latest 24 executive orders on gun control or establish a nation wide gun registry. The Supreme Court ignores precedents in constitutional law all the time–don’t put all your eggs in one basket and rely on that. You can start with the Sheriff’s and the Supreme court,but there is only one viable solution– put a scope on that AR,buy some 30 round clips while you can and make your own ammo. Good luck! God Bless America!

By: sparducks

sparducks — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:30:00 +0000

There are 3088 sheriffs in america. they all need to band together and support each other. The precedent was already established in 1997 Printz v The United States. This is where we start. Not civil war talk.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 06:23:00 +0000

I didn’t say a Sheriff could be (removed) by a Federal agent. NOW. I said that (local) authorities can and have removed a Sheriff from office IF he is brought up on criminal charges or malfeaseance of his office. It can be done in my state by the coroner, the attorney general of the state or he can be recalled by the people(if they have the votes). In so far as a Sheriff being removed by a Federal agent. What I said was IF some unconstitutioal law were to be passed and the constitution was by passed then in my mind in my opinion with congress on Obama’s side as well as the supreme court he would not hesitate to have federal agents surplant/ userp a sheriff’s authority and if necessary replace him. Obama has already proven that he wants the constitution gone and will use whatever he can to do it. He has issued more executive orders in 4 years then all the past president combined. In the early 60′s when intergration became the law of the land Bobby Kennedy, Attorney General, sent Federal Marshals into Mississippi to enforce it. They didn’t get permission from any local judge or magistrate. They didn’t notify the Sheiff or ask his permission. Do you really believe that Obama would not bury some county/parish in a mountain of paper work and use every Federal agency at his disposal to get what he wants including the: FBI, CIA, ATF,Home Land Seciurity,ICE, Border Patrol,etc.I totally agree with you about the public not being informed and about supporting the sheriff and getting an AR. I do support the Sheriff and already have an AR. In my state we have 64 sheriffs one for each parish. The problem is like you mentioned they are elected. Elected is better than appointed,but it has its down side. Anyone who runs can be elected –they don’t have to be Qualified in Law Enforcement to run. A sheriff before being elected could have been a plumber, a used car sales man, a teacher, a farmer, whatever–so just being a Sheriff doesn’t make them the Final Solution or the end all/cure all for what ails your county. They are a politican first to get elected. Their politics and backers make policy and their Departments are controled by budgets which are generated by local funds: millage,bonds, taxes,etc. All of which affects his decisions to carry out how he will act. In so far as my OPINION about a possible civil war . It is just that— an opinion just as valid as your contention about what you think will happen.Check out the the latest gun controls Obama has enacted. In so far as foreign soldiers on American soil remember the story about the frog in the warm water and how gradually the heat was turned up until he was boiled. As you noted Most Americans are not informed or for that matter really conerned about Obama and gun control. 51% of them elected him so they must agree with his policies. Which means gun owners are in the minority. Obama could use any type of chaos, national calamity or disaster to ask for outside assistance in helping with the spread of disease, safety issues or anything he deems necessary. Under the guise of foreign aid could troops be sent from overseas? How many countries are allies of the United States or friends willing to help us? How many are enemies and want to see us destroyed? No matter how it starts-whether secession,armed conflict,whatever– IT IS coming.Our only hope in remaining free will be with a gun not an election, a ballot box ,an elected offical or a political party.As far as a chain reaction around the world –what is stopping those countries from doing that now? They have already had civil war in those places,ethnic cleanzing, and Russia, The USSR, is indeed still a threat, our enemy and capable of taking those countries back now. I agree–The UN can’t stop it any more than the on going genecide in the Sudan land and Africa. Th UN is not and has not been our friend. I did’nt say they could stop anything! The big question for everyone is Are you ready to lay down your life for your freedom or just talk about it. Question? What is the AR for? If not to defend your family ,your freedoms, your country. The 2nd amendment is not about Hunting or what type of gun you have or how much ammo you have. Ask the policemen that were in the bank shoot out in California where the two bad guys had automatic weapons and they didn’t –if their Department Policy should have allowed them to carry similar rifles. Many Law enforcement departments have changed firearms policy to keep up with the bad guys. They don’t obey gun control laws. Anyway—- Lock and Load ,keep your powder dry and remember sight picture, trigger control and center mass. We might disagree about minor points,but we are on the same page when it counts. God Bless America!

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 06:10:00 +0000

If Obama did that, America would immediately revolt. There would be bloodshed and an overthrow of the government. 100 million citizens, about 300 million arms would be hard to beat…. Us American citizens are not going to lay down without a fight to the death. We never have, we never will

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:54:00 +0000

Think! If the IRS seizes our bank accounts, don’t you think we will seize our guns and shoot them? The government would not dare do anything to cause 100 million people to get mad enough to kill them.

By: Dave Ki

Dave Ki — Wed, 16 Jan 2013 01:20:00 +0000

Thing is how many people answer the question truthfully about owing guns? I told everyone that may answer the phone and have some pollster there that ask about guns that they were lost in a boating accident and hang up if they persisted. Assuming they even took the poll.

By: sparducks

sparducks — Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:02:00 +0000

We need to get this word out it is the answer. BTW go pick up an AR15 next time your out. Thanks for response.

By: greywolfrs

greywolfrs — Tue, 15 Jan 2013 19:50:00 +0000

If the government is to seize absolute power, they will have to get rid of the Second Amendment. The Second Amendment is the only thing that ensures ALL other Amendments/Rights. That is why it is important to get rid of it, whether by EO, UN Treaty or any means they can.

By: greywolfrs

greywolfrs — Tue, 15 Jan 2013 19:46:00 +0000

Actually, it isn’t about getting rid of the First Amendment. If they are able to abolish the Second Amendment, ALL other Amendments/Rights will be taken away, not just the First Amendment.

By: greywolfrs

greywolfrs — Tue, 15 Jan 2013 19:43:00 +0000

Do you even realize what you just said? You want the state government to be able to recall a Senator if they disagree on how they vote for bills? So, if you live in a state that heavily Democrap, but manage to get a Republican Senater, the state governor can recall them because they are not a Democrap and do not vote accordingly? Sorry, but that seems like a VERY bad idea.