New executive order on gun control could require your doctor to turn you in

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During the healthcare debates in 2009, one of the main criticisms of the bill on booths sides of the aisle was over privacy concerns. With a national database of health records, what would keep the government from digging around in your personal life? Despite the government’s reassurance that “the government is not going to do that,” the more power the federal government obtains, the less true that seems to be.

Glenn has spoken out against electronic medical records since this debate started, but unless your wealthy enough to pay cash there’s no avoiding them. That’s how health insurance claims are filed. And now, one of the new executive orders on gun control, may make his case.

“There’s a fix in the new healthcare law now coming through one of the executive orders,” Glenn said. “One of the new executive orders on gun control is, ‘the government needs to know if you have a gun. And the government wants you to know that if you have a gun, and there is anyone with any kind of psychiatric issue going on, you must get rid of the gun. You must turn it in.”

“Now let’s think about this,” he continued. “First of all, how do we describe that? That means anybody with any kind of post-traumatic stress syndrome has to get rid of the gun. Anybody who was in the military who has any kid of paperwork like that, you have to get rid of your gun. Let’s say there was a woman who was being stalked or she was raped. Are you telling me she didn’t go to a psychiatrist and wasn’t treated for that? Of course she was. If she has a gun, she has to turn it in now. If you move in an aunt who has Alzheimer’s, you have to get rid of the gun. If you have a teenager that is depressed, and you treat them with a psychiatrist, you have to get ride of your guns. And if you don’t, it is going to be a felony.”

To be clear, these are necessarily the final parameters of any legislation or executive orders that will be passed. This was the word coming out on one, possibly two, of the executive orders being considered as of this morning.

Glenn went on to explain what the ramifications of a law this broad could be. If a kid or a teenager had a rough time in high school and went to the doctor because they were depressed, that family could instantly lose their right to own a firearm.

“Everybody in life goes through depression. This is the most overmedicated society in the history of the world,” Glenn noted. “How many people are on Prozac? How many people are on those drugs?”

When do you get those guns back? Do you get them back? More importantly, what about the Hippocratic Oath? The law the legally protected you, the patient, and your privacy.

There is no right to privacy under the Hippocratic Oath under an executive order that requires physicians to report patients with mental health issues.

“How many people will stop telling their doctors things that are important?” Glenn asked.

Anyone who has ever had private health insurance under an individual plan will understand the implications of this. Essentially this would allow the government to do is label any and all mental health issues, from any point in your life, a “pre-existing condition” for gun ownership. If you’ve ever tried to change health insurance after a serious illness or injury on an individual health plan, you know how impossible it is. Even if it’s an illness that could never return, you can become virtually uninsurable because you are grouped into a ‘high risk’ column.

“How many people will have real psychiatric issues and not report them? And when it comes to depression, if you don’t catch it early, you’ll keep sliding into the abyss, and that’s when it becomes dangerous,” Glenn said.

Most individuals suffering from mental illness already have a hard time talking about issues like depression. Now, they have to deal with the fear of punishing everyone under their roof and a doctor being “required” to turn them in.

This executive order would group anyone with a history of depression, anxiety, mood disorders, PTDS, etc, into the “mentally ill” column. So if you or anyone in your house is in that group, your 2nd Amendment rights have become extremely limited at best.

The biggest problem with these kind of laws is that everything is viewed by the collective. An individual look isn’t taken at each patient, much less each illness. And, as Glenn points out, can be a slippery slope that leads to dehumanizing these individuals all together.

“The ramifications of what we are doing and what we’re talking about…and no one will actually talk about the moral issues behind all of this. We’re talking about these things that are life changing, culture changing, things that are profound in their repercussions,” Glenn told listeners.

Euthanasia is occurring more and more frequently in industrialized countries around the world — the value of life seems to be on the decline in the eyes of European countries. Glenn gave the example of a set of 41-year-old twins in Belgium that were Euthanized recently. They weren’t terminally ill, they weren’t in chronic pain, they were just deaf and had glaucoma.

“They didn’t want to be deaf and blind, so the state killed them. State-assisted suicide,” Glenn said.

“They [Belgium] euthanized 1033 people in 2011,” Pat noted. “They’re euthanizing a lot of people.”

It’s a trend that’s on the rise, Glenn explained, because the excuses are on the rise.

“They didn’t want to live like that. They didn’t want to be that way. It’s costing too much.  We’re going to lose our guns.  We’re going to lose our rights. We’re going to lose this, we’re going to lose that,” Glenn listed off. “It will happen. But remember, the President will tell you these are common sense things.”

  • Draxx

    The Supreme Court should immediately rule on this as Totally Unconstitutional… (and Let us keep the guns).

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Once again we are seeing the all-encompassing darkness of Obama-care being brought into play on the American public. 

    How much more new legislation will Emperor Caligula-Obama impose upon all of us via these illegal executive orders as he crushes the Republic completely? How much more will the people put up with until they demand he be stripped of his office and tried for his crimes? How long will it be before his insanity unleashes a bloodbath across our lands?

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    How long until euthanasia becomes mandated here in the states under Obama and the Obama care laws? How much blood will we accept being shed until people cry ‘enough is enough’ and demand his removal from office? 

  • Anonymous

    I live in California.  My wife took our newborn daughter to the doctor’s office, and I heard afterward that the doctor probed her about whether we have guns in the house, and whether they are locked up or not.  My wife answered yes, they are in a safe.  The doctor says, “At all times?”  My wife answers, “No, my husband takes them out sometimes.”  The doctor then told her that this was unsafe, and they should always be in the safe… 

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    I wish they would find it as such, but I do not count it to happen given the way they supported Obama-care. As with impeachment, Obama needs to be stripped of his office, but so long as Reid controls the Senate, it will never happen.

  • americanathlete

    Obama treats the Charmin extra soft with more respect than the Constitution.

  • Anonymous

    HITLER and his foolish, moronic minions back from the grave.

  • Anonymous

    Not sure why you guys even answered the doctor.  That’s NONE of his business.  As someone once told me, “the government makes thieves of us all”.  Amen Brother.

  • Anonymous

     I wasn’t there, and the doctor caught my wife off guard.  I informed her to answer with, “thank you, that’s none of your business.”  I was absolutely furious when I found out about it.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, that happens.  You think about it after the fact and get upset when it’s too late.  The problem with all these doctors asking questions is that they are going to start getting big heads and having attitudes with patients, as if they have a right to ask questions and tell you what to do and how to live your life.  A perfect example are those that work at the IRS.  They think just because of their position, they can talk down to you any way they want because they have control over your finances and can hit you where it hurts.  They wear their puny little government jobs on their sleeves and feel like they’re in power.  Same goes with collection agencies.  They think they can call you and talk to you like you’re garbage and they’re the big bad collector.  I’m telling you, this world is getting to the point where people are going to have to start getting ugly.

  • Elena

    If they demand your guns, demand a court order first!

  • Anonymous

     it was none of the doctor’s business to push further than the initial question, but kids accidentally shooting themselves does happen and would be something the doctor would feel inclined to ask about.

  • Anonymous

    There may have to be a straw that breaks the camel’s back before we see action from the American people. Many are silent and apathetic because they feel it doesn’t affect them. I hear from many that believe it just can’t happen. My fear is that it will be too late by the time these people realize it does affect them. That might be Obama’s plan.

  • Anonymous

    No one will trust their doctor or tell their doctor the truth if they believe that doctor will turn against them. This will result in more mentally ill people being untreated. That is one thing we don’t need.

  • Barry Bin Inhalin

    Time to find a new doctor.  Once records have been moved, I’d write a thank-you note to the doc, for all of the years of care blah-blah, and be sure to tell him that his services were terminated because he overstepped his professional bounds.

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunately, that’s the attitude of many in my state.  If the doctor had asked while I was there, I wouldn’t have hesitated to shut her down.  Oh well, I can’t live in the ‘if only’s’.  My state is very much like that.  People are very quick to tell each other how to live and what to do (typically liberals).  I’ve known friends who have been threatened by random people to be turned into child services for spanking their children (I’m not talking about abuse, I’m talking about mild spanking).  It’s actually illegal here to spank your child.  But I suppose that goes with the territory of being a progressive movement hub. 

  • Anonymous

    Every executive order must be reviewed by Congress. If Congress decides that an order is no good, then it isn’t a law. If they do accept, then it is law; but Congress has 30 days to review it. After 30 days are passed and no decision it’s made, it becomes law. If it passes Congress, then the Judiciary Branch can rule on it’s constitutionality of the law. We’ll see how much backbone the Republicans have.

  • Anonymous

    I do understand that.  It truly wasn’t the initial question as we are new parents, and it’s something new parents should think deeply about if they are gun owners.  The part that was invasive was the further questioning and an overall insinuation that because I from time to time remove them from the safe, that I was being irresponsible and endangering my child.  The doctor was very anti-gun as well. 

  • http://youtu.be/XEjnyMyJYTI Sam Fisher

    Again this does not help the mental health system why because the shooter did not get any help from our so called mental health system. It seems like more and more they are more worried about taking guns away than fixing the underline problem which is actually fixing the mental health system. This is not constitutional and should be illegal for him to do. These idiots in Washington want to take are rights away not protect children and using the deaths of children to do so. It is going to happen again mark my words more children will die because those idiots refuse to do the right thing.

  • Anonymous

    Nothing would do this country more good than doctors turning in paranoid right wing conspiracy freaks so they won’t go nuts and machine gun little kids.

  • Anonymous

     Doctors and nurses are already big headed. It is irritating that they are being used to enforce gun control.
    In my 60 years I have seen doctors and experienced  wrong diagnoses. I believe most the test they run are unnecessary; the equipment is a replacement for intuitive doctors, the equipment moves more people through or helps get a diagnoses for those who went into medicine to make money, they don’t really care about helping people. I personally don’t take the test, and the nurses would call me at home twice a week and leave messages; “you need to call the office and make an appointment”. Their nagging and the idea they think they have the right to make me take tests, that they have the right to make choices for me — is irritating. I told them no at 30 times, in person, in  a letter and they wouldn’t stop. So I dropped the insurance and they quit calling.
    Back in the 70′s and early 80′s when the government was pushing sex education; I went to the doctor because I had what I thought was the flu. I just wanted to get some medicine. The doctor was doing his evaluation. One of the questions was; how often do I have sex? I asked him what does sex have to do with the flu? I am here just for some medicine, not sexual problems?
    It is ridiculous to have doctors being told what to ask patience to make decisions about their health.

  • Anonymous

    Emperor? You seemed to missed the whole election thingee, where you like, lost.

  • http://youtu.be/XEjnyMyJYTI Sam Fisher

    I wonder how he thinks you can practice using them safely when they are always lock up in a safe. Ask him that next time and see what the doctors says.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe when you guys can like, actually win an election by not putting out nothing but crazy ideas coming from Old Blubbering Beck.

  • Anonymous

    The court already has in the Higgins case, read it you moron.

  • Anonymous

    No, as long as the voters keep you fascists out of office, it will never happen. Hey, how’s the hopey changey thing goin fer ya?

  • Anonymous

    Probably because he’s figured out you people are a bunch of nuts who are leaving their guns lying around so other nuts can get their hands on them.

  • Anonymous

     Hah! I surely will ask next time.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Compton/100000464802780 Brian Compton

     Hitler was elected too…so was Stalin
    An elected administration can stomp your rights just as effectively as a king or dictator can

    Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences. – C. S. Lewis

  • Watchman on the Wall

     It’s much more than a few personalities, folks.  It’s a global conspiracy run by some very wicked and evil people who will stop at nothing to enslave the majority of humanity in their Brave New World Order.  Obama, Reid, Pelosi and Feinstein are just public stooges for much more ruthless sociopaths who direct the affairs of this world behind the scenes and issue their orders to these puppets.  Take out Obama and Reid and there are 100 other servile puppets waiting in the wings to take their places.

    At the root of our problems here is the immorality of the American people who were easily deceived into voting into office dishonest politicians who could be bribed, bought off or intimidated into going along with actions that keep moving us slowly and gradually toward world tyranny.  A moral and well-educated populace is essential to the preservation of liberty, freedom and self-government.  America once had that, but she has lost it and will never recover it until the second coming of Jesus Christ.  Everything short of this is merely a pipe dream that mistakenly thinks mankind can solve the depravity of human nature on its own.  That’s ridiculous.  We see  endless proof of this in our world.  How much longer will we cling to this wishful thinking and refuse to face the truth?  Mankind is desperately wicked and desperately needs a savior.  It’s that simple.

  • Anonymous

    You kooks and your insurrection fantasies, no wonder you go nuts.

  • Anonymous

    Nothing would be better than doctors locking up gun freak paranoids before they wipe out a classroom full of little kids.

  • Marny

    As I understand it from my kids who still have young children, asking about guns in the home is a common practice of pediatricians nowadays.  Some sort of mandate for insurance purposes.  What really surprised me, however, is when my husband, the grandfather of these young ones, visited the podiatrist just to have his toenails trimmed (he is diabetic and must maintain good foot health), and the podiatrist’s office was in the process of switching over to the new Obamacare mandated digital records system – he was asked how many children he has, as well as some other personal stuff he never had to answer before and was told that they could not file an insurance claim without answers to those questions.  He is on Medicare with a supplement.  This confrontation finally turned into a “big deal” wherein the doctor summoned the “person” who was on premises getting this new system up and running and together they determined that if my husband just paid cash, he would not have to answer the questions.  So, what does that tell you?  As far as I know, there is a provision within Obamacare that PROHIBITS doctors and other medical personnel from asking a patient if he is a gun owner, etc., so it appears that this “proposed” EO is just the perfect way to get around that directive so that ”they” can truly say that Obamacare does not call for gun disclosure.  What a bunch of diabolic swamp rats! 

  • Anonymous

    You just try and come after a freely elected government,  shit head.

  • Anonymous

    We are conditioned from a very young age to answer questions from our doctors honestly.  If the doctor is quickly going down a very long list of yes or no questions (as they do at the start of almost every visit), it is easy to slip and honestly answer Yes if asked if there is a gun in the house,  before the question with all of  it’s ramifications regarding Obama Care fully registers,  and you think it through enough to realize that in this instance you should be lying to your doctor. 

    This is one of the most insidious aspects of Obama Care;  the violation of our trust by the intrusion of the state into what used to and should be a private matter between a doctor and patient.

  • Watchman on the Wall

     So do all the millions of Jewish-Freemason global elites who he serves and who own him.  Obama is the figure head.  You have to pinpoint the real adversary: the global elites and the spirit being they ultimately serve: Satan himself!

    This is all about the destruction of Biblical Christianity and the true nation of Israel: American Celto-Saxon (white) Christians.  Until you get this, nothing makes any sense.  Once you do, everything becomes quite clear.  All truth is found in Yehushua, or Jesus Christ of the Bible.  God doesn’t reveal the truth to those who are not fully surrendered and submitted in all things to His son Jesus.  Those who are not of Jesus, worship self and by extension, the devil.  Such people have been sent a strong delusion by God so they will believe the lie (because they refused to believe the truth of Jesus) and so be condemned (to hell) for delighting in wickedness as God defines that.  2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 states this very plainly.  But no one is listening.  They’re all spiritually blinded and incapable of discerning the truth.

    The problem starts with the American people who no longer fear or serve YHWH, or the God of the Bible.  The problem does not start outside of us and blaming others won’t cut it any longer.  It’s time to look within our own hearts for the root of the problem. We have  tolerated and compromised with evil long enough.

  • Anonymous

    election? you believe barry was re-elected squarely? you believe, as we have been told by the state run media, that fewer people voted for Romney/Ryan than did for McCain/Palin…you believe Barry received fewer votes than he did in ’08 and still won? 1/3 of black men between 18-and 30 yrs. of age voted Republican and barry still won. curious. the game is rigged. loaded voting machines in swing states? one method for sure. barry is a power mad, America-capitalist loathing, commie/muslim sympathizing, anti-Israel disaster. understand?  

  • Watchman on the Wall

    Good luck with that.  The Supreme Court has a bunch of globalists sitting on it who will, in the end, do what they are told by their CFR and Bilderberg masters.

  • Anonymous

     We are conditioned from a very young age to answer questions from our
    doctors honestly.  If the doctor is quickly going down a very long list
    of yes or no questions (as they do at the start of almost every visit),
    it is easy to slip and honestly answer Yes if asked if there is a gun in
    the house,  before the question with all of  it’s ramifications
    regarding Obama Care and Second Amendment rights fully registers,  and you think it through enough
    to realize that in this instance you should be lying to your doctor instead of telling the truth. 

    This
    is one of the most insidious aspects of Obama Care;  the violation of
    our trust by the intrusion of the state into what used to and should be a private matter between a doctor and patient.

  • Anonymous

    no freedom loving American patriot is planning to “come against a freely elected government”. the fear is that one day the elected gov. could turn on the people. This has happened pretty much everywhere but in America b/c of our Constitution and particularly the 2nd ammendment which affords us commoners to keep and bear arms. All this stuff is hidden in books.  

  • Anonymous

    I wasn’t as much worried about the initial question about guns, but it was a further insinuation (after my wife informed the doctor we do indeed own a safe and the guns are in the safe) that I was still unsafe for even having the notion that the guns would come out of the safe, ever. 

  • Watchman on the Wall

    Impeachment is a pipe dream.  America is no longer ruled by the rule of law, but by wicked tyrants who are controlled by wicked sociopath global elites who operate behind the curtain where no one can see what they do to destroy western civilization and white Christianity.

    Study the teachings of the Talmud of the Jewish rabbis and you will comprehend the magnitude of the hideous fraud which the Jewish-Freemason elites have perpetrated upon America for at least the last century.  The demonic Jewish worldview informs the actions of the global elites who issue the orders to the likes of Obama, Reid and the SCOTUS.  Deny or ignore this reality and all the prescriptive remedies in the world won’t make a bit of difference.  Because we haven’t defined the problem correctly yet.

  • Anonymous

    Just because he was elected, that doesn’t entitle him to act like an emperor or are you too dense to get the analogy?

  • Watchman on the Wall

     Apparently mob rule is more appealing to you than the rule of law.  Let me know how that works out for you when it is your head that is being shoved under the blade of the guillotine.

    Those who refuse to study history are doomed to repeat it.

  • Watchman on the Wall

     Elections today are complete frauds and scams and anyone with any sense knows this.

    Why should anyone listen to the rantings of a fool who merely scorns and mocks those who possess far more wisdom and life experience than he does?  The answer is, no one should.

  • Watchman on the Wall

     The world hates a mocker and a fool.  And you just proved that you are one.

  • Take 2

    Crew!   Strike down Executive Orders or we all go overboard with Johna to learn our lesson…all over again. They removed Congressional isifer trading SO why not the equaly BAD act of one of the other Branch of governing.

  • Anonymous

     I was asked ‘if I have a gun in the house’ by a doctor that I have been going to for 20 years and trust. 

    It was the first time in 20 years that it has been asked, and it was in the middle of her asking me a list of over a hundred questions that she was complaining about being forced to ask under the new computerization requirements of the new health care law, as she struggled with entering the info in the new computer system that she is being forced to adopt. 

    The question was not her idea,  it was on the list of things that she had been given to ask and record for all of her patients . . . or at least that was what she told me.  Is it possible that some of the questions on the list were optional,  and she didn’t know that?  Considering how convoluted and confusing the law is,  I think it is quite possible.   She didn’t seem interested in the answer to that question,  and there certainly isn’t any professional reason for her to have asked,  unless she was afraid of stumbling across it in the course of a pelvic exam ;p.

  • http://suzeraining.wordpress.com/ suz

    many “ailments” will be considered/and-fall under the banner of “mental illness.”

    for instance, someone who doesn’t use botox and has “too many” expressions when talking, would be deemed bizarre or crazy behavior.  of course, the fact that she doesn’t use botox is not the issue, but you get my point, yes?

    _________

    i think those two men wanted to be euthanized, but glenn’s point is that the STATE ACCOMMODATED THEM!

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    From what I know of history many a dictator moves step by step to lull the people along in their apathy, until they ask ‘what happened’ when it is far too late.

    I think you are right, about that being Obama and Reids plan.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    He sees himself as a god-king over this nation, and he is insane.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Critten you are a hypocrite, we are losing our freedoms under Obama and you call us treasonous for desiring to hold onto our rights peacefully.

    Recall well that the leftists – including the unions, OWS, the Democrats and the radicals allied with Obama have demanded blood in the streets and war against the conservatives.

    Who is the villain now?

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    What will you do when a President turns upon you? Especially a communist such as Obama?

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Oh I understand about Obama completely, he is a narcissist, sociopath and pathological liar, communist, power hungry delusional god-king to his own mind and completely insane.

    He stole the election, pure and simple.

  • Anonymous

    I haven’t lost any freedom.

  • Watchman on the Wall

     The doctor is not your problem.  The government that gains access to the answers you supply her is.  this information will be available to inform the tyrants and their jack-booted thugs in the middle of the night who have guns so they can be confiscated before they start hauling all dissidents off to FEMA camps never to be seen or heard from again: just like the Jewish Bolsheviks did to 66 million Russiand under Lenin and Stalin.

  • Watchman on the Wall

     Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline will drive it far from him, teaches one of the Proverbs.  When the state bars parents from obeying God’s Word and wisdom, it has stepped over the line.  Resist or the next step may be that the state takes your child from you.

  • Watchman on the Wall

     We are all free to resist what is evil.  We have been conditioned to tolerate and compromise with that which is evil and it is wrong and very stupid.  We must wake up and think more carefully and critically and suspect all motives of anyone in government or leadership of any kind.  They are probably not our friends.

  • Watchman on the Wall

     Spoken like a fear-mongering mocker who has an agenda to rob others blind when they lack the tools to defend themselves from the likes of you.

  • Watchman on the Wall

     It’s psychological warfare, brain washing and propaganda foisted on us by our own government and the global elites behind them designed to spread fear into the American population so that we will give up our ability to defend ourselves against evil tyrants.  It’s not the government’s job (or that of doctors) to proect us from our own foolish actions..

  • Watchman on the Wall

    Your doctor ought to stick to medicine.  He obviously knows nothing about world history and tyrants.  His personal views re guns are of no relevance to anyone.  He’s not God, even if he has been trained in medical school to act that way.

  • Watchman on the Wall

     No, the doctor is unqualified in this arena.  It has nothing to do with medicine and he ought to keep his mouth shut on the subject he knows nothing about.  A fool with a strong opinion is a dangerous thing.  And one to be ignored.

  • Destroy All Morons!

    there is simply no way this leftist coup ends peacefully.  i just hope i’m already pushin up daisies when the jackboots hit the ground.  but this is what people have voted for for the last 45 years, so blame is best cast into the mirror :-)

  • http://www.facebook.com/gailnowaczyk Gail Nowaczyk

    If this is true.  Then it has violated our rights of privacy, with our Doctor.

  • crazy betty

    oh cretin, you are in bondage but you’re too blind to see.

  • Anonymous

    If you have never written to your Congressman and your Senators, it is time to do so now and ask them to uphold and defend the 2nd Amendment or be voted out of office at the earliest possibility.

  • Anonymous

    Fifty states have reported voting fraud this election.  My first election was JFK and this has “never” happened before.  Do you understand that??

  • Anonymous

    I would have ended it by saying “No..none in my house.”

  • Anonymous

    Watchman – Excellent; well-said.
    Bless you and your family.
    Praying in PA
    Teri

  • Watchman on the Wall

    The globalists are counting on our broken mental health system to produce disturbed people on psychotropic drugs who commit violent acts with guns so that they can use such events as a ruse and the excuse for disarming Americans.  We must keep exposing their lies and deceits for what they truly are: a key move on the pathway to global tyranny that has been planned by the global conspiracy for over two centuries.  The truth is the most powerful weapon in the world.  We need to use it to expose their evil for what it truly is.

  • Watchman on the Wall

     It will find its conclusion in the second coming of Jesus Christ who will slay the wicked as foretold in Bible end times prophecy.  Between now and then, much wickedness, injustice and cruelty will abound.  But such trying conditions also create the conditions for God’s true elect and true Israel (white Christian Americans) to shine forth with the truth in love.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wayne-Hamilton/100000247102177 Wayne Hamilton

    How about instead of taking your child to a quack pyschologist or psychiatrist you take the child to your Pastor???? 

  • James Bush

    You didn’t bother to read this story much closer. It says people with legitimate illness may not go to a psychiatrist not people with non legitimate illness like porn addiction.

  • James Bush

    Hitler was not elected he was appointed because his party lost. So when Paul von Hindenburg was dying in his bed Hitler had his Reichstag give him full powers to take effect upon the death of Paul von Hindenburg. So when they were buring Paul Von hindenburg he forced all the German Soldiers to swear loyalty to Hitler.  The only election you are thinking of is not of Hitler but the 2 offices of President and chancellorship. So no Hitler was never elected in his own right. One of the biggest myths was Hitler was elected. He was never elected. Also in an election to combine offices it is never the same as an individual Candidate.  Look at the Soviet Union there was never a real election by the people always by the leadership appointed by Regional Communist factions also known as the Soviet Republics.

  • Anonymous

    One can go on and on about a freely elected government, but the Second Amendment is the only amendment that keeps us free. Once it’s gone, how long do you think the First or any of the Bill of Rights amendments will survIve?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/OPM5LSTZ7TLA4S3YPTQ2NMTIUA James

    Watchman, this movement has been going on since the 50′s & 60′s.  Seems like nothing is like it seems.  Check out the book by  Milton William Cooper 1991 Behold A Pale Horse.  Secret government and school shootings are described.

  • Anonymous

    critten, you need to be locked up for a few weeks where you crap when you are allowed to, pizz when you are allowed to, have coffee when you are allowed to, and everything else when you are allowed to, all under the watchful eyes of your keeper. If that isn’t enough to drive you up a wall, especially when you know you are innocent, nothing will. 

    THAT life style will put you in therapy real quick. 

    And NO charges were ever filed! Just in the wrong place at the wrong time – walking home past the local occupy a.holes. 

  • Anonymous

    You Will! You Just Haven’t Recognized It Yet! Wait Until ‘ObamadontCare’ Law Is In Full Effect In A Few Years…then you will see and have no freedoms..he’s working slowly they have patience because this plan was written fourty years ago..waiting..for the right moment and for the dumbing down of Americans…and complete control…..socialists have been here for 100years…

  • Anonymous

    hey they say chavez was “elected” too…thats what kind of “democracy” we have! when we were created as a ‘Republic’ ‘By The People!’ by the way HugoChavez and Acmindinijad is Hussein-Obama’s best friend and idolizes Mao who killed more than Hitler and Stalin! which makes Reid/bama’s plan more dangerous! 

  • Anonymous

    you got that right mr commie socialist narcisist spoiled god-king had gotten everything he ever wanted all his life…barry-hussein-obama is and always hasbeen the antiAmerican Islamist Terrorist!

  • Anonymous

    Your the only one in this form that has use foul language, and accused people you don’t know of being nuts, because they’ve notice something that you admit you haven’t notice yet. Why attack?     It’s possible you are too trusting, you may have lost more than you know.  Keep an open mind and healthy distrust of all leaders.  History has given us good reason to not want to be a sucker for a sweet talken political leader…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TY27VTXKVBBTZAEX4ZBI5NGYBQ M. B.

    EVERYONE (yes, you…& you…& you, too, & me) needs to write every Congressperson “representing” your district & remind them that they CAN VETO these executive (Imperial?) orders!   Then demand that they exercise this right…..NOW!

  • http://www.speakthewordnow.com Karen Rose

    don’t go to the doctor …Jesus is the healer

  • greywolfrs

    Nothing would be better than left wing dolts, that woud be you, getting your whole head in front of the shotgun.

  • greywolfrs

    What are you going to do about it? The answer: Nothing. Coward.

  • greywolfrs

    Seems that would violate doctor/patient privacy.

  • Anonymous

    Question if government have your doctor ask if you own a gun or a relative have guns that may you might have access to ,is not that invasion of privacy ??? Since the doctor acting in behalf government law enforcement department  in asking you personal question that does not pertain to your medical condition, Is this not going around of you having the right to have a lawyer present for questions and interrogation,do you have right to refuse to answer the doctor or lie to him without ramifications on this question ?? or to take the fifth even when you and your relatives are legal gun owners ?? Will doctor have access to your personal  records  & your relatives records on guns registration ??? Will government seize your relatives guns because they live nearby you might have access or force them to buy expensive gun safe  ???  To me this obama taking his first steps in his agenda to make U.S  into a dictator police state country !!!! Can a doctor refuse to treat you if don’t answer question of the ownership of your guns and of your relatives when he invading your privacy on your legal ownership of guns that do not concern his medical profession the only thing he should do report to enforcement at this time your unfit to access to a gun !!!!

  • Anonymous

    It may be a point of no return.

  • Anonymous

    This Dr./Patient thing regarding gun control is so bizarre.  Two weeks ago my Dr. and I were discussing my diabetes and out of the blue he asked me if I owned any guns and what kind.  Like, what???  Then he proceeded to tell me what guns he had purchased!  So now I ask, how much information should we have about our doctors?  Does he bring these guns to work?  Does he suffer from depression?  Does he have a depressed wife at home alone with his guns and she might come to the office and blow everyone away?  Should everyone going into a doctors office be scanned, like at the Arpts?  How far will or should, this go?  The world is crazy enough as it is, without creating more paranoid people.  We the people have the right to bear arms, stick with the Constitution.  Although,  I hope Obama doesn’t have any guns because he’s apparently  insane as they come and I don’t have to read his medical records to figure that out.  Are they going to offer a monetary “reward” for snitching on our family, friends and neighbors who own guns?  Or will they give you a free phone?  If someone wants to blow people away, they don’t have to register to get their hands on weapons.  This is going in the wrong direction.       

  • Anonymous

     should say none of your damn business or that I don’t answer to personal question when don’t pertain to my health !!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Matt-Horrax/100000508662465 Matt Horrax

    Thank you SO much Supreme Court Justice Roberts. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Matt-Horrax/100000508662465 Matt Horrax

     Well, at least youre using common sense arguements. I mean, who can argue with THAT? Bravo critten.

  • Anonymous

    Been there done that.  My doctor won’t refill any medications unless you see him every 3 months!  And I’m not talking about controlled substances.  BP meds, etc…

  • landofaahs

    I remember back in 1972 when Democrat Senator Thomas Eagleton was being defended as McGoverns VP pick even after he had twice received electroconvulsive therapy and the democrats defended him and he could have been in charge of nuclear weapons.  These democrats have very short double minded memories.  What idiots.

  • Anonymous

     My great grandmother use to hid potato from Russians and Germans soldiers  during World War Two Poland they just put back in the ground ,maybe you can do the same with your hand gun with zip lock plastic bag that is air and water tight and some cloth to absorb moisture in the air .just say you miss place it I put someplace safe when no one else was looking ,example under pool blocks with lock chain barbecue or in tamper proof briefcase in plastic trash bag chain to post below ground level hidden to sight !!! 

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t answer his question.  I was just so stunned by it, all I could say was, What?!  

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TX4XL32X6KVVBASYNXIBBWDSDE Jimmy

    Here is the deal Glenn: we all have to keep our mouths shut and go underground until this Tyranny passes. It is important to start telling others that it is not any of their business and keep to ourselves.

  • Anonymous

    Obama does not care about children! Obama refuses to give school choice to children. Obama has waived or lowered educational standards to dumb down our children. He has promoted abortion, partial birth abortion and the death of children that survive abortion. Obama stated he would not want his daughter punished with a baby. He has pushed for outrageous debt that will leave to our children. No one should ever believe this know liar that even his own Reverend stated he was a liar and willing to lie to get his way. People must remember that Obama’s own definition he is an immoral president.

    Obama’s Fast and Furious actions backfired and could not be used for gun control for it came to light that they were providing the guns to the bad guys and were responsible for the deaths of hundreds of people.  Obama used his power to cover it all up and no one was held accountable or punished for these deaths. They have been saying ever since that had plans in the works to pass new gun control laws. Now as they have said let no crisis or tragedy go to waste for they are secretly glad about the school shootings.

  • Anonymous

    Those that Obama admire and consider mentors have stated that they may have to execute 10′s of millions of us to force their agenda on us.

    They already do not have a problem stealing from us. Under the left beliefs, if slavery was voted on as bbeig desired again, it would be okay if the mojority passed it.

    Let us remember just like everything else, the left votes for it and then exempts themselves, just like Obama Care Welfare Program. It is no suprise that those whom vote for things want others to pay for them.

  • Anonymous

    These
    policies are examples of poor management and leadership.  Obama wishes to punish all Americans for the
    actions of a few. This is like the employer that sets strict new dress codes
    due to a single employee that abused the dress code. This is due to leaders
    that have no backbone and address whom is the real problem. They talk of all
    the gun deaths, but refuse to take the guns out of the hands of the criminals. There
    is no common since in many of the laws. These are the politicians that legalize
    drugs, refuse to punish corruption or theft of investor’s money, reward immoral
    and irresponsible behavior, but blame guns for deaths. It is not the guns, but
    the people and the culture that the democrat party has promoted. These are the
    same politicians that make laws and exempt themselves and steal or tax dollars

  • Anonymous

    There are gun laws that will help stop crime. The following
    people should be prohibited from own any guns. Any individual whom has been a
    member of a gang, a person whom has committed 3 felonies as a minor or a crime
    with a gun, anyone that has ever sold illegal drugs or has used illegal substances
    as an adult, and anyone whom ever came to the US illegally or overstayed their
    visas. The punishment such a violation should be life without parole.

  • Anonymous

    Obama states we must pay our bills, but all the freebies he is giving away to his supporters are not our bills. I also must ask if we must pay these bills, then why not make underwater homeowners pay their bills. Why are those that have children not made top pay for them and sacrifice for them for it is their bills, not mine?

    No person willing to give up liberty for security deserves any liberty.

  • Anonymous

    Mental illness and guns do not cause suicide or homicide. The drugs given have been PROVEN to cause these behaviors. Going to the doctor increases your chances of killing yourself or others.

  • Anonymous

    You, like, forget, like, that obama was elected to PRESIDE over our Republic, and he was not, like, elected to RULE.  We still have a Congress, sort of, at last glance.

  • Anonymous

    It sure didn’t take long to revert to the liberal choice – foul language and insults, did it?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/2YRN4O5JE5AWH3VKL2WOGVU7RU Arthur

    Yes we need to take weapons away from those that are mentally unstable. Look at the reports, most gun violence is conducted by a person that is mentally challenged. People with known PTSD should not be permitted to own or purchase weapons until cleared by a Doctor.  Additionally, those citizens that are charged with drunken or public violent behavior should have thier weapons taken away and placed on a list banning them from purchase weapons. Soon we will be calling the Police when we see someone in a parking lot acting out of the normal standards, just we do when we see an adult miss-treating a child in public and the child is taken into protective custody, and that person will loose run ownership privaleges. Anyone that is mentally incapable of living with other humans should not have access to weapons.  We remove driving privaleges from drunk drivers, ban people from bars for disorderly conduct, place people in jail for public displays of violence, taking away weapons is not wrong for the right reason.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/R3RXPTFPX4TYVBYHHYXN4IAS7U Lorraine

    So this means we will have a drastic reduction in our police forces and fire fighting forces, too, as these people are required to seek psychiatric help when they shoot someone or when they see horrible death associated with their jobs.  I would think paramedics would be affected, too.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4HAW7OERGSC7VZM72V7IGDJ3B4 Sharmane

     You are 100% correct that Obama does not care about children.  He voted four times while a jr. senator from IL to deny aid, comfort or care to infants who survived abortion.  Someone who does that has a total lack of conscience or morals.  I believe his regime would stop at nothing to achieve their agenda of disarming the law-abiding people of the USA – nothing, including the Fast and Furious debacle and perhaps even mass shootings.  To these types of people the end justifies the means.  We need to circle the wagons and be very vigilant.  The next four years may get very ugly.

  • Anonymous

    Such incredible malarkey. What’s worse, some people will believe it. Like putting armed guards in all schools. There are 98,817 public schools in America. Police officers make an average of  44,000 a year (benefits not included which would add another 30% approx.). That would cost the nation 4,347,948,000 a year. I work in the schools and we just laid off three important teachers, costing us one and a half programs because there wasn’t enough in the budget. Please tell me, you small government, cut programs people where all this money is coming from????

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Julie-Johnson/100002415262145 Julie Johnson

    And Social Security was never going to be used for identification.  Uh huh.  Emergency Powers will be laid down after the crisis has abated.  Uh huh.  The Government will never use your medical information to force you into anything.  Uh huh.  Yeah…sure. 

  • Anonymous

    Obama tries to blame Republicans for not letting him raise the debt ceiling to ‘pay the bills’ -  meanwhile HE is the reason those bills can’t be paid!  HE needs to stop spending.  I was baffled when he won again….then I realized that half of the country is receiving benefits from our government – obviously they and their families are the ones that  voted for him.  He promised ‘no tax hikes for the middle class’ – just another one of his lies.  With all the new taxes, more and more people are going to be out on the streets.    

  • Anonymous

    It scares me to think that there will most likely be bloodshed when people finally do wake up and demand he be stripped of his office….those who receive benefits will not take it lightly.  I am truly afraid of what the future is going to bring.

  • Anonymous

    yea right – The Congress  that is that thing that needs to be restricted to 1 term –  not a lifetime, millionar producing, getting fat and lazy on taxpayers expense – right?  how many days a year are these guys working ? 137 or so ??? They all need to go – term limit and back to your businesses and no need to provide lifelong security either when they are out of office right? and Health insurance Obamacare for everybody!!!  Yes that the way to go!!

  • Anonymous

    DO NOT BE AFRAID ! – be smart get prepared – don’t let them scare you into anything. I felt the same way not so long ago but I now am ready. Bring it on!

  • Anonymous

    I know people that would rather keep their head in the sand than talk about what is going on in our country. People can’t just stand by hoping that somebody else steps up and makes things right…we are ALL in deep trouble. I have heard that Obama wants to bypass the Congress on some issues – he should not be permitted to bypass Congress on ANY issue. To me he is trying to be a Dictator rather than a President – he doesn’t like to take no for an answer.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry: if you are telling your doctor or psychiatrist that you are planning on using guns (or any other implement) to commit violence, I am good with the reporting. If you are a mentally ill person, you should not have access to a gun; just as people with certain medical conditions cannot have a license  to drive a motor vehicle (a rather highly lethal implement in its own right). identified mentally ill and homicidal persons will have to go to illegal gun sales; which will continue to flourish; but by attempting to block them, it is one step more challenging to keep them away from causing harm.

    Cribbed from the White House Press Release today those provisions that pertain to suitability to own a gun:

    Today, the President is announcing that he and the Administration will:

    1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.
    2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
    3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.
    4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
    5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
    6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
     
    16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
    17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.
     
    20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
    21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.
    22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.

    This is the stuff to justify a civil war?
     

    .

  • Anonymous

    That’s a lie, it doesn’t require doctors to turn anyone in. It simply doesn’t prevent them from asking about a patient’s gun ownership. Which is a perfectly legitimate question if someone is in the hospital if there are psychological issues.
    The right wing has to spread lies about this issue, because any reasonable person has no problem with background checks, military weapons being banned for civilians, and restrictions against people with serious mental health issues. There’s no reason to oppose those fair and balanced approaches, so you have to make up lies like this one, or like the one about the Nazis taking away guns, which they didn’t do.

  • Anonymous

    Funny. Where were you guys when Bush was stomping on your rights with the patriot act? Did your guns protect your rights then?

    You are all full of it.

  • Anonymous

    You lost your freedoms under Bush. Where were the right wingers then? How come your guns didn’t prevent that?

  • Anonymous

    lol. you don’t know what a communist is, do you?

  • Anonymous

    LOL. uh, if you say so.

  • Anonymous

    which is it, is he a commie (atheist) or a islamic terrorist (fundamental religious believer)?
    Or is he so awesome that he can do both?
    You people are hilarious.

  • Anonymous

    A useless congress thanks to House Republicans.

  • Anonymous

    Count me among the mentally ill.  I thought HRH Obama was elected to uphold the constitution.  Here he is grinding it to powder.

  • Anonymous

    DISABLING The wrong people,
    While doing background checks is possibly a great idea , it could have been done reasonably years ago, more effectively too
    There are people with “mental conditions” which are fully competent to responsibly own & operate safetly and have can proven so throughout their community

    Which NOW will be raped of their SOVERGN RIGHT to defend there lives in neighboorhoods where gun shots are heard every other night!

    These people are now a mark in society, as IF they can no more be trusted as citzens then any criminal whom reels a firearm!

  • Anonymous

    In honor of Chairman “O” disturbing the airwaves today I went out and purchased more ammunition. A armed free man is a Citizen …. An un armed man is a subject or worse a slave!

  • Anonymous

    Ah Yes, I can see it now. “Doc I have this pain around my waist area when I sit”, Hummm I see, Let me ask you Mr. patient, do you carry a concealed firearm by chance, if so, whats the make, model and serial number?? (what a crock of crap!) this same tactic was used in Cuba during the beginning’s of the gun grabbing process, how do I know? I was there while they got them from my dad at gun point in the middle of the nite!. wake up America this next step is coming. 

  • Anonymous

     We are giving too much power to central government wake up people ,I hope the individuals states will run the federal medicare and they keep individual electronic medical records and guard the Identities from federal government and may give feds bulk info !!! Look how obama abuse federal power they compare auto dealerships who donated to obama progressive party and close  the ones that was not in with lockstep with obama close not on merit of dealership !!! If federal government have your name and access to your medical records , a computer would read your over 40, match to another computer file you donated to republican party, you would especially always be at the bottom of the list to get treatment,operations and ban U.S hospitals even with your own money or private insurance of a operation to give you another 10 to 15 years of a good life!! Also since fed know your in need of treatment or operation ,medicine ,they will cancel your passport can get operation abroad and travel restrictions can go over the border to pick up needed medicine or receive  mail medicine from foreign country this is obama steps to bleak future for our people not in lockstep with him !!!  Why so obama have more money  to buy votes from the don’t care to work crowd or old leeches and illegals with freebies at your expense and medical benefit you work all your life for so he can save more in social security and medicare money and fat friends at G,E etc save in pension  payout!!  Our President obama agenda for you if over 40 and don’t donate to his dictatorship progressive party is with his death panels is for you go take a pain pill and die !!!   Don’t give federal electronic medical records to be scan by computers to combine with his black list too much power !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    If a doctor working for federal law enforcement asking questions and interrogation you on your gun ownership & your relatives on their guns to me same as a (policeman) you should have a right to a lawyer,right to refuse to answer or take the fifth Just another way of obama using a doctors to get around our rights and laws to invade our privacy without probable cause or warrants etc he just using a doctor to ask the questions instead of law enforcement personal !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

     Where will this lead to if your primary doctor ask you about your guns for no reason just to take a survey for government if you refuse to answer will he mandate you be seen by a shrink doctor this  is same tactics use in Soviet Union that put many innocence people in camp because they were not in lockstep with their socialist communists dictator !! Now I remember a form a doctor office,one of question asking you have guns in your home believe was common form fill out to keep records updated by everyone ,next time I’m just going to leave that question blank next time it no one business ,private information !! P.S if someone unfit per doctor he should report to the police to check gun registry !! I just say if I answer the question either way I’m afraid for my life it will put it in danger !!  More people will have access and know you don’t have a gun or you have guns to steal , or attack you when your away from your home where most people don’t have right to carry !!

  • Anonymous

    We should have some shrink doctor declare obama is unfit for president office he has the king or God complex !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Instead of him having doctors under threats find some phoney reasons  to say legal gun owning citizens are unfit so he can have more complete control and be at his whim’s and mercy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Welcome to the new Soviet Union !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

     What next everyone be mandate to see one obama shrink doctors ,because you can be possible threat or if you refuse your possible threat so obama can seize your guns from some phoney reasons from doctors who under threats from federal government to find you unfit ! You be especially targeted if your not in lockstep with obama policy or don’t donated to obama progressive party just as obama close car dealerships who were not in lockstep with him !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

  • Anonymous

     I guess most people at this site including me are mentally ill to obama and his minions because we are not lockstep with his dictatorship policy plus we are not one of his obama zombie looking for obama freebies !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GW6ALM3N2YFTOT6TN3GZGAHQG4 Frank Balcer

    If the Dr. asks me if i have any “guns”. I’ll just tell them “ya, i got 2 guns”.
     (then I’ll just flex my arm muscles) “right here”
    that or i will just tell them it’s none of their business because, it has nothing to do with why I’m there.

  • Anonymous

    that makes me so angry!!!  It is NON of their business and shame on him for asking.  It may be pointless from what I am reading but find a new doctor anyway

  • Anonymous

    I don’t see a problem with this. why not have doctors report people with mental issue and if there is a gun in there house it should be removed.

  • Anonymous

    can you prove what your saying

  • Anonymous

    Yesterday in honor of Chairman “O”s disturbing the airwaves I went out and purchased more ammunition…. sort of crazy…..I guess….. Hey Doc. is it crazy to buy ammo?  Or is it crazy to allow one man dictate to a free people what they can & can’t have?

  • Anonymous

    What we seeing here is that criminals have more rights and protection than law abiding legal gun owners !!!  If law enforcement or police want to ask questions or interrogate they have right to have a lawyer present,to refuse to answer or take the fifth with no ramifications !!!  But your doctor under government threats and penalties is force to become a deputy arm of law enforcement do you have the right to refuse to answer without ramifications stop medical treatments, have lawyer present,,refuse or take the fifth and protection from reprisal from doctor & government for not answering questions??? A doctor can pass judgement on you!! Can you have second doctor in your defense to state that you are fit to own a firearm before police seize your guns and your relatives guns without trail,judge,hearing ????   To me a criminal have more rights and protection ,than legal gun owner going to your deputy doctor with no protection !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,  

  • Anonymous

    Doctor’s are human and being human may believe no one should own a gun…. so who is to say that many people with no mental issues will be barred from ownership because of a doctor with an agenda?  where will it go? will everyone who was ever depressed be barred? will adults who as children were forced to take Ritalin be seen as a possible danger and be barred?  This is a slippery slope to go down….. who knows you yourself might be on the wrong end of the stick one day and be barred from ownership…….. Be careful what you wish for……

  • Anonymous

    Yeah I got two guns too! a staple gun and a glue gun……. Be careful Doc. I know how to use em too!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GW6ALM3N2YFTOT6TN3GZGAHQG4 Frank Balcer

     I got a nail gun & a screw gun as well. i just for got to mention that.

  • SoThere

    Did you actually read what Obama proposed?  They are already being done except the doctors violating Dr. Patient privilege.

    It’s amazing how you skipped over 7 and 8 which are programs already initiated by the NRA, how convenient!

    9-15 are already being done, so are 18 and 19.  It’s clever how you dismiss those parts that are meaningless or already being done.

    Why do you see the need to omit certain parts of Obama’s rant.

    The announcement made by Obama was a dog and pony show using little children as props.

    The whole thing was meaningless and would not prevent anything like Sandy Hook from happening again.