Comments on: Libs trying to destroy yet another cheap energy source http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/01/22/libs-trying-to-destroy-yet-another-cheap-energy-source/ The Fusion of Entertainment and Enlightenment Mon, 20 May 2013 07:29:00 -0400 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Asa King http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/01/22/libs-trying-to-destroy-yet-another-cheap-energy-source/#comment-231062 Asa King Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:37:00 +0000 /?p=42453#comment-231062 The buoyancy of hydro carbons also carries natural things such as uranium. we didn't add it and fracking fluid is actually quite safe, even to drink, but he high pressures create a hydraulic gradient upwards that carries bad things such as uranium or more like likely benzine, or both. both of these are bad to drink (duh). I actually like fracking its a hell of a lot cleaner than "clean coal" <-----(misnomer) but it isn't clean and it can be cleaner. also there isn't much toxins in the gas but peoples homes have exploded due to gas coming up from their basements. The buoyancy of hydro carbons also carries natural things such as uranium. we didn’t add it and fracking fluid is actually quite safe, even to drink, but he high pressures create a hydraulic gradient upwards that carries bad things such as uranium or more like likely benzine, or both. both of these are bad to drink (duh). I actually like fracking its a hell of a lot cleaner than “clean coal” <—–(misnomer) but it isn't clean and it can be cleaner. also there isn't much toxins in the gas but peoples homes have exploded due to gas coming up from their basements.

]]> By: antithetical radical http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/01/22/libs-trying-to-destroy-yet-another-cheap-energy-source/#comment-215205 antithetical radical Sat, 02 Feb 2013 00:32:00 +0000 /?p=42453#comment-215205 If you aren't saying it is from fracking, then why are you mentioning it? To this point you have been on an anti-fracking rant, so why introduce a non-fracking source? That is intellectually dishonest behavior. As to the EPA, they do a lot of studies, and they have an agenda. They report things with that agenda in mind and I wouldn't put it past them to skew the report to suit their agenda, especially since they also are the agency charged with fining and filing suits that cause the fines to be levied. They are currently in the business of enacting the carbon credits bullcrap that Obama couldn't get through the failed cap and trade scam. No, I don't think you really know what you are talking about. Land grabs are not possible for the reasons you are suggesting - petroleum development is done on lease basis and they never own the land, they lease the rights to the land and the minerals. Sorry, but the oil business just doesn't work like it did in 1900. You are comparing legitimate leasing with condemning a right of way under imminent domain. It does not wash - they are not in any way the same. If you aren’t saying it is from fracking, then why are you mentioning it? To this point you have been on an anti-fracking rant, so why introduce a non-fracking source? That is intellectually dishonest behavior.

As to the EPA, they do a lot of studies, and they have an agenda. They report things with that agenda in mind and I wouldn’t put it past them to skew the report to suit their agenda, especially since they also are the agency charged with fining and filing suits that cause the fines to be levied. They are currently in the business of enacting the carbon credits bullcrap that Obama couldn’t get through the failed cap and trade scam.

No, I don’t think you really know what you are talking about.

Land grabs are not possible for the reasons you are suggesting – petroleum development is done on lease basis and they never own the land, they lease the rights to the land and the minerals. Sorry, but the oil business just doesn’t work like it did in 1900.

You are comparing legitimate leasing with condemning a right of way under imminent domain. It does not wash – they are not in any way the same.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/01/22/libs-trying-to-destroy-yet-another-cheap-energy-source/#comment-215156 Anonymous Fri, 01 Feb 2013 21:15:00 +0000 /?p=42453#comment-215156 If you grew up in OK you should be aware of the issue in Norman OK and their high levels of Chromium in the water, OK also has one of the highest rates of Bladder cancer, I have family that live in OK also. I'm not saying this is from fracking, but it is from as you said large industrial facilities dumping, and this dumping happens all the time becasue I think alot of the concern comes from the EPA progress report which was released last month http://www.epa.gov/hfstudy/pdfs/hf-report20121214.pdf It doesn't contain any information on water contamination, even though congress asked them to study it. hmmmm Here are some of the things I've read that spark concerns for me http://www.tceq.texas.gov/assets/public/implementation/air/sip/dfw/ad_2011/10022SIP_ado_111811.pdf http://www.propublica.org/documents/item/methane-contamination-of-drinking-water-accompanying-gas-well-drilling http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2012/03/22/economics-snake-oil-vs-environmental-nonsense/ http://rydberg.biology.colostate.edu/phytoremediation/2012/fracking%20phytoremediation%20by%20Amanda%20Shores.pdf About the Land grab, why dismiss it, we did it for rail road, highways and other development. http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/02/us-chesapeake-landgrab-substory-idUSBRE8910E920121002 If you grew up in OK you should be aware of the issue in Norman OK and their high levels of Chromium in the water, OK also has one of the highest rates of Bladder cancer, I have family that live in OK also. I’m not saying this is from fracking, but it is from as you said large industrial facilities dumping, and this dumping happens all the time becasue

I think alot of the concern comes from the EPA progress report which was released last month http://www.epa.gov/hfstudy/pdfs/hf-report20121214.pdf It doesn’t contain any information on water contamination, even though congress asked them to study it. hmmmm

Here are some of the things I’ve read that spark concerns for me

http://www.tceq.texas.gov/assets/public/implementation/air/sip/dfw/ad_2011/10022SIP_ado_111811.pdf

http://www.propublica.org/documents/item/methane-contamination-of-drinking-water-accompanying-gas-well-drilling

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2012/03/22/economics-snake-oil-vs-environmental-nonsense/

http://rydberg.biology.colostate.edu/phytoremediation/2012/fracking%20phytoremediation%20by%20Amanda%20Shores.pdf

About the Land grab, why dismiss it, we did it for rail road, highways and other development.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/02/us-chesapeake-landgrab-substory-idUSBRE8910E920121002

]]> By: antithetical radical http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/01/22/libs-trying-to-destroy-yet-another-cheap-energy-source/#comment-215146 antithetical radical Fri, 01 Feb 2013 20:35:00 +0000 /?p=42453#comment-215146 Grew up there, no cancer in my entire family. Where are you getting your evidence? (I noticed you presented NONE.) Apples and Oranges - this isn't Brazil, and much of the stories about land grabs are just that - stories. Anyone who leases mineral rights to developers without consulting an attorney is not very smart. Never get into any real estate transaction without consulting an expert. Sorry, Winston, but you are not backing up anything, just repeating stuff you hear somewhere from some source really isn't very compelling and since I know the area my experience differs from your hypothetical case. Cancer Clusters occur more often in areas like Love Canal - the industrialized Northeast where chemical dumps are, mainly industrial solvents containing benzine compounds and other carcinogenics that are very concentrated. Please try to provide some evidence before you make claims that just don't parallel others real world experience. Grew up there, no cancer in my entire family. Where are you getting your evidence? (I noticed you presented NONE.)

Apples and Oranges – this isn’t Brazil, and much of the stories about land grabs are just that – stories. Anyone who leases mineral rights to developers without consulting an attorney is not very smart. Never get into any real estate transaction without consulting an expert.

Sorry, Winston, but you are not backing up anything, just repeating stuff you hear somewhere from some source really isn’t very compelling and since I know the area my experience differs from your hypothetical case.

Cancer Clusters occur more often in areas like Love Canal – the industrialized Northeast where chemical dumps are, mainly industrial solvents containing benzine compounds and other carcinogenics that are very concentrated.

Please try to provide some evidence before you make claims that just don’t parallel others real world experience.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/01/22/libs-trying-to-destroy-yet-another-cheap-energy-source/#comment-214766 Anonymous Thu, 31 Jan 2013 18:43:00 +0000 /?p=42453#comment-214766 I wouldn't use Oklahoma or texas as an example of good drinking water, those state have some of the worst "cancer cluster" every documented, that is linked to industry and petroleum production. My concern is also about drilling rights and judging what happen in Texas with land grabs, maybe that concern should be greater than the environmental, which I think is still greater than the reward. After reading what the brazilian government did to the Kayapo tried to create hydro electric power station, what happens to land owners in the US who might have gas rich lands. I wouldn’t use Oklahoma or texas as an example of good drinking water, those state have some of the worst “cancer cluster” every documented, that is linked to industry and petroleum production.

My concern is also about drilling rights and judging what happen in Texas with land grabs, maybe that concern should be greater than the environmental, which I think is still greater than the reward.

After reading what the brazilian government did to the Kayapo tried to create hydro electric power station, what happens to land owners in the US who might have gas rich lands.

]]> By: landofaahs http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/01/22/libs-trying-to-destroy-yet-another-cheap-energy-source/#comment-212664 landofaahs Fri, 25 Jan 2013 06:39:00 +0000 /?p=42453#comment-212664 You have an extra y chromosome. You better seek help. You have an extra y chromosome. You better seek help.

]]> By: antithetical radical http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/01/22/libs-trying-to-destroy-yet-another-cheap-energy-source/#comment-212619 antithetical radical Fri, 25 Jan 2013 04:47:00 +0000 /?p=42453#comment-212619 Proof is what you need to present, not diatribe. Proof is what you need to present, not diatribe.

]]> By: antithetical radical http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/01/22/libs-trying-to-destroy-yet-another-cheap-energy-source/#comment-212616 antithetical radical Fri, 25 Jan 2013 04:45:00 +0000 /?p=42453#comment-212616 That isn't truth - the propaganda content of that "movie" is well recognized. I see your claims but no documented proof. That is where your argument falls apart - never any kind of independent verification for your claims. That isn’t truth – the propaganda content of that “movie” is well recognized. I see your claims but no documented proof. That is where your argument falls apart – never any kind of independent verification for your claims.

]]> By: Sam Fisher http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/01/22/libs-trying-to-destroy-yet-another-cheap-energy-source/#comment-212403 Sam Fisher Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:10:00 +0000 /?p=42453#comment-212403 Maybe you should learn to look at reality instead of getting spoon feed propaganda from your lord and savior Obama. Maybe you should learn to look at reality instead of getting spoon feed propaganda from your lord and savior Obama.

]]> By: Repugnatcant http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/01/22/libs-trying-to-destroy-yet-another-cheap-energy-source/#comment-212362 Repugnatcant Thu, 24 Jan 2013 22:32:00 +0000 /?p=42453#comment-212362 Take your meds and the voices in your head will stop. BTW- learn ya some spellin' K? Take your meds and the voices in your head will stop. BTW- learn ya some spellin’ K?

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