Let the bloody sequester come, Obama is already in full retreat from the ‘doom and gloom’ position he has maintained the last few weeks.

We need real cuts across the board 15-20% to begin with and more past that until we have a balanced budget and tackle the national debt.

Bring the sequester on and let it bite Obama in the ass. 

I’m sorry Rand Paul, you made a mistake.  Not because you are a Republican who voted to nominate Hagel, but because you voted for him period.  All of the Democrats who were on board made a mistake.  
What part of ISRAEL IS OUR NUMBER ONE ALLY don’t people get?  This is an indictment on everyone who questions the right of the State of Israel (circa 1948) to exist.  This is very hot button with me and matters to me more than anything except for my friends and family.  
The Palestinian Authority has NO plight, yes I said it.  It’s not even practical to consider the small strip of land, about the size of New Jersey, to be a place for a right of return.  Why don’t places like Egypt, Iraq, or Saudi Arabia take in the Palestinian refugees if they really care about their Muslim brothers that much?  There are a little over 4 million people in the West Bank and Gaza Strip combined.  Why do people want to cram 4 million Muslims onto a Jewish land the size of New Jersey instead of putting them in a Muslim land the size of Montana?  
The answer of course is that anyone who supports the Palestinian Authority must agree with them wholeheartedly on the phrase “Death to Isreal!”
Very few things are cut and dried in this world folks, but here’s one of them:  The United States Secretary of Defense needs to take a hard line with regard to Israel!  Otherwise they don’t deserve the appointment!

Rand Paul you are knucklehead and you lost my vote period !

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The entire time Obummer has been in office, all his Administration spouts out is about Impending Doom & Gloom, there’s this emergency there’s that emergency… and we need more power for this administration to thwart it before it’s too late!  Hurricane Sandy really was at a poor time in politics (and all hurricanes come at a bad time for anybody caught in them, especially those that lose everything), Sandy gave him a way to show some humanitarian aid (if you could call it that because people are still suffering from it).  We will live and go on after the sequestor which is a total bogus political scare tactic, if they can raise our taxes, raise Fed Spending in the Trillions, and Give Away Ungodly amounts of money to their friends businesses (which is way over $80 billion also).  We definitely can withstand that miniscule amount of money taken from $3,760 Billion being spent.  Especially when millions upon millions of peopel never see any benefits of the spending…

You want to save Trillions?  Impeach Obummer and His Administration needs to go…

I just lost all faith in you Rand, I will never support you ever again! How dare you make excuses for the Hagel Vote……

It’s like I voted for it when I voted against it before. None of them have the guts to stick to their principals  to include Rand, McCain, Graham.So sick of them speaking up and then I don’t care if the whole bunch vote for Hagel, if you can not agree with him or have doubts you vote against him. Politicians are all alike.  Lindsay acts like he is so tough and then he tries his best to get the president to shake his hand at the State of the Union. Sick of all of them.

I say stand up, speak up, pray up, because we want to see them stand up for what they believe, not give in to the pressure of politics and turn around and vote differently. I am asking God to take control no matter what it takes.

Rand Paul is the typical politician. If you can’t handle the truth or the pressure, you don’t deserve my vote.  Your voice means nothing if you just talk the talk and don’t walk the walk.

how can you trust anything he says.  he tells you he won’t do something, then he does it and rationalizes it.  the excuse he gave about deference was the exact weasel phrase graham used. i thought rand paul deserved consideration and respect and in the end he is just like the other geldings in the republican party.   we need people to stand up and follow principles,not mindlessly but with some integrity.  this was a test case for him, he lost

Rand Paul is nothing but another rino that has deceived the tea party, they helped him get into office & he does idiotic things like this but then we should have known better, after all his dad is a nut job & he was raised by him I guess

Federal Parks waste more money,buying land that they don’t need.The New River Gorge is a good example,look how land they started with when the park opened and how much they own now and buying people out of their homes and spending thousands  fixing them up and now they’re rotting.

Dennis  – you hit it on the head buddy.  I so wish I could get elected.  No doubt i would become missing in six months…

there ya go. NO SENSE whatsoever. That’s POLITICS talking. they are all idiots. screw u Rand Paul. Just keep playing the game FOOL as IF THEY would let OUR President pick his cabinet with THEIR support. ya dumby. I give up.

I meant to say Gumby, as in monty python Mr. Gumby. same village idiots in our congress.

Yeah, let the sequester happen. 2%, a drop in the ocean and BO is crying apocalypse! He is pathetic. If he cant even cut 2% without crying the end is near what does it tell us? The Crisis Creator has no intention of cutting spending! He creates crisis so that he can then manage it to score political points and blames the GOP.

After the way you’ve gone after Republicans you don’t think are conservative enough, you have a nerve! Now just bite your tongue.
 

omg why NOT vote NO on everything u idiot. it’s what they expect of the right anyway so friggin do it. OMG pulling hair out.

What good is information if you don’t use it…Why is it that every other president was nailed for what they did, but nothing is done about this one…maybe he hasn’t really done all the things that people are saying about him and there really isn’t evidence like they say there is…I don’t know, it is very strange. There are so many lies in the air even on the right..The bottom line with all these people, is MONEY, GREED, POWER…. Everybody is asking for you to give them your money….on every turn…It is ridiculous, they never get enough. Jesus said, the love of money is the root of all evil…not money…the LOVE OF IT….

 I would contend Canada is a bigger ally, and how is it that washington’s advice of not get entangled in permanent foreign alliances is touted with the UN etc and thrown out in regards to Israel?
The answer is the other muslim countries, certainly their governments, don’t really care about the Palestinians that much.  It’s a popular issue, they have to support them in order to maintain credibility.  The reason Iran constantly tries to position themselves as the champions of the Palestinian cause is to prevent Arab nations from ganging up against them (Iran and the arab nations have a long history of dislike and distrust especially since Iran sees themselves as the rightful regional power.  One of the many contradictions of modern Iran, wanting to distance themselves from the monarchy of the past while still wielding a lot of influence in the region a goal even the Shah strove towards throughout his disastrous rule).
The Palestinian authority has no plight, they are largely a group of corrupt and incompetent idiots which is why Hamas even has some semblance of popularity, but the Palestinian people have quite a large plight.
The Palestinians, even the radical Hamas, have conceded that they will not be getting the right to return and the main fight now is for a two state solution, the original misconceived idea of 1948 (like all UN partitions) which suddenly is now unacceptable.  Instead a nation of people must live under constant occupation (interestingly similar to all but 80 years of the Hebrew peoples ancient existence in Palestine)(and as an occupied people they have a right to resist under international law, though it does their cause no good and is less than admirable).
I support Israel’s right to exist as well as the right of the Palestinian state to exist.  The two are not mutually exclusive.

Rand Paul just proved to me today that he was no different from any of those two-bit mealy-mouthed scumbgs in Washington.  He will never get my vote for anthing!

Rand Paul just proved to me today that he was no different from any of those two-bit mealy-mouthed scumbgs in Washington.  He will never get my vote for anthing!

Paul stated “I give deference to the President”.  REALLY?  Then why have hearings?  Why not just let him have who he wants without wasting the taxpayer dollars.  Will he also give deference on Supreme court nominations?  I really get tired of politicians standing up for the “process” instead of standing up for America and the constitution…oh yeah, WHAT constitution…I fear it is dead and gone.

Paul stated “I give deference to the President”.  REALLY?  Then why have hearings?  Why not just let him have who he wants without wasting the taxpayer dollars.  Will he also give deference on Supreme court nominations?  I really get tired of politicians standing up for the “process” instead of standing up for America and the constitution…oh yeah, WHAT constitution…I fear it is dead and gone.

We need to dump the Progressives, and all other die-hard political figures who refuse to stand by the Constitution and will not put the nation first.

We need AMERICANS who put nation first and their ambitions second in the White House, Senate and House.

We need to dump the Progressives, and all other die-hard political figures who refuse to stand by the Constitution and will not put the nation first.

We need AMERICANS who put nation first and their ambitions second in the White House, Senate and House.

So what is with this “Vote for Rand Paul” stuff?

This interview shows Rand Paul to be another meaningless shill.
Limbaugh says the President campaigns against everything he actually supports.
So what is any different when Rand Paul speaks out against everything that he eventually votes for anyway?
And he even admits it!
It is already clear from this interview that he Rand Paul will at some point also confirm Butcher Brennan.
Rand Paul the pro second amendment funding champion is confirming all those opposed to the second amendment.   This is called evil behavior.
Ancient Israel had judges take care of evil men who avoided the truth . 

Senator Paul can be summed up by the one famous word now used to describe most republicans and liberals.

“HOPELESS”

So what is with this “Vote for Rand Paul” stuff?

This interview shows Rand Paul to be another meaningless shill.
Limbaugh says the President campaigns against everything he actually supports.
So what is any different when Rand Paul speaks out against everything that he eventually votes for anyway?
And he even admits it!
It is already clear from this interview that he Rand Paul will at some point also confirm Butcher Brennan.
Rand Paul the pro second amendment funding champion is confirming all those opposed to the second amendment.   This is called evil behavior.
Ancient Israel had judges take care of evil men who avoided the truth . 

Senator Paul can be summed up by the one famous word now used to describe most republicans and liberals.

“HOPELESS”

He just proved that with the promise to veto any legislation coming before him that either does not have massive new taxes, or allowed him to take more direct control of where the “cuts” would take place.

Rush is right, Obama does not want to be linked to anything which will allow him to blame the Republicans and destroy them once and for all.

Edit added:

Which is to be expected of Obama.

He just proved that with the promise to veto any legislation coming before him that either does not have massive new taxes, or allowed him to take more direct control of where the “cuts” would take place.

Rush is right, Obama does not want to be linked to anything which will allow him to blame the Republicans and destroy them once and for all.

Edit added:

Which is to be expected of Obama.

really rethinking Rand Paul . . . . 

really rethinking Rand Paul . . . . 

No information came forward because they REFUSED TO GIVE IT. This is the history of this not so transparent administration. “Deferance” is all this POS gets from the media, from collegues, the justice system, EVERYWHERE! As if there is not enough back scratching going on “up there’” That needs to stop – PEOPLE NEED TO STAND FOR SOMETHING other than compromise. That is all they DO stand for anymore. It can’t be anymore obvious when you have to ASK them not to break the law – to agree to existing law – not to shiot all over the constitution. If you completely disagree with someone – there is no compromising. It’s all their underlings that are doing the grunt work to KILL THIS COUNT!! SO IT MATTERS!

So don’t be one of the POS’s that bail. And cut out 100% of foreign aid.

At no point in history have we ever been ruled like a Marxist country UNTIL NOW! Yep, it’s a NO on all of them. That is what it should be – otherwise what the hell is the point of voting in the first place? And this all sounds great about the sequester, until you cave on this, too. We’ll be watching and remembering what you have said here.

 His answer is: “I support the pres and appoint his ppl even if I don’t agree with them”. Why? “because the pres has the right to appoint..” What? His answer is senseless. Who cares if there is a history of denying bad ppl pres support or not???!!!  Use some damn common sense and some courage.. If the constitution says no blacks allowed… do you support it??? If it said, “Kill all whites”… Support it?? Give me a break.. He chumped out.. Either you believe someone is qualified enough and you support them, or you don’t. This “Well..the president appointed him and I believe he has the right to get the job because of that”… Good grief… What the hell is that..?

If the president has the right to decide who is in his cabinet, why waste the time and money going through a vote.  I do agree, however, that many Republicans were going to vote No and then changed their mind.  Lindsay Graham and John Mc Cain are two examples of RINO’s who need to get out of our government. Enough is enough ! Rand Paul, you were too easily convinced to change  your mind.  How many more times will that happen after people put their faith in your original decision?

I said yesterday I would wait to see if he had a good answer for voting the way he did.  Looks like I am still waiting for a good answer.  Absolutely disgusted.

Wow Rand Paul is really clueless when it comes to the Democrat party, no wonder Pubes are getting rolled.
Sad I thought he was a sharp guy…

It was first called Palestine by a ruler that hated the Jews and
intentionally used this name as a slight to the Jews since THE JEWS were the
first people of religion that occupied that entire area. There never was such a
thing as Palestinians – they are manufactured subset of people therefore they
deserve no right at all to the land of Israel or even the land they are
squatting on!

Rand Paul is full of crap just like the rest of them. End of story.

I left Iran out of my post on purpose because I’m well aware of their isolationist bent towards the rest of the Middle East, due to their bull-Shiite.
The Palestinians never wanted a two-state solution. The Israelis accepted it, and for their sins were attacked. They won a war, AND allowed the Palestinians to stay on the land that they lost but ONLY with refugee status. There is no other nation under the same scrutiny as Israel. No international law is worded in favor of the Palestinians being freed from refugee status in this region. Unfortunately however, these people are third generation refugees. They have no identifiable nation and it’s the fault of their war-mongering ancestors. Israel was the only party interested in the partition plan, reluctantly I might add. The Palestinians broke the compromise and decided on their own that they were mutually exclusive to the Israelis. They did it in 1948, 1967, 2005, with little skirmishes in perpetuity. They continue to provoke violent conflict and are always shoved back more severely. If you poke a bear with a stick it will maul you. If you somehow survive, why would you poke the bear again? It’s been long overdue, the time for the Palestinians to move on.

You are right Senator Paul, the first responders will not be affected initially by the federal government.  You see I am the wife of a BP Agent, among all the Federal Agents combined the Border Patrol is getting the biggest hit, by far.  Starting tomorrow if a resolution in not passed my family along with TWENTY-TWO THOUSAND PLUS families are preparing for a 42% pay decrease.  Can ANYONE imagine losing roughly half of their income.  And due to the hours that BP Agents work it is extremely difficult for the spouse to work out of the home if they have small children.  Thousands of us will be placing our homes on the market as we will no longer be able to afford our mortgage payments.  It would have been nice to know about these cuts 6 months ago so that the Agents and their families could have saved considering most of us live paycheck to paycheck since many of us survive off of a single income.  But we were NOT informed months ago that a cut such as this was going to take place.  The upper management of DHS kept the potential cuts secret until the 20th of Feb.  This is crap.  Cut entitlement programs not decrease the safety of those living and protecting our borders.

snowleopard,, yes indeed, it is his intention to destroy the GOP forever. Still many are too stupid to ask themselves this question, BO is the POTUS, he is paid and it is his job to know what goes on within his administration. Isnt it convenient that he has claims he knows nothing, eg what goes on in Benghazi, F&F to name two. If he doesnt know then he has no business being the POTUS!

So what? I don’t like Hagel, but if it wasn’t him it would be someone else. The point is, to me, this changes nothing about Rand Paul. Our country is falling apart around us, and so many of you are splitting hairs! You people won’t vote for him, over this? At least he stood for the filibuster. Yeah I can’t understand why he didn’t vote no, but it isn’t a deal breaker for me. 

Further, I wish we could jump off this cabinet track. Elections have consequences. I say, let the President nominate the most corrupt people he can find. After all, we have the worst of them as the head of our executive branch.

this analogy is not a perfect comparison but based on your logic americans are a manufactured subset of people who deserve no right to the land of the Native americans (insert hundreds of tribes here).

Really? For him to say, ” I decided that no information came forward that would have eventually disqualified him.” Are you kidding me, a dyed in the wool Muslim supporter, spouting that crap over and over during the last 10 years, wasn’t enough huh? Obama brings him in KNOWING how he hates the Israelis? Just couldn’t come up with any information that would disqualify him? YOU are now off my list Sen Paul. You aren’t willing to fight for our ONLY ally in the Mideast, but instead gave the wishy-washy BS, “It one of these things where i don’t treat it the same as an issue. I
treat it as a presidential nomination to a political office,” he
answered. “I think the president does have the right to form his
cabinet. I voted for John Kerry and I got some grief for that,” he
continued, “I agree with nothing that Kerry represents … I just have
made the decision that on these type of appointees, unless I can find
information that they’ve taken money from a foreign government or given
us information that was not accurate, then I go ahead and let the
president make his political appointees.” Well, Sen Paul, for me, that is totally UNACCEPTABLE!! And you know why? Because if the tables were turned (as with Justice Thomas), and they had the vote power, they would NEVER let that person be appointed. PERIOD.

Guess that just leaves Sens Cruz and Lee!!! What a shame. You will never again have my support or vote, and I’m not alone on that one.

Mr. Paul: your explanation doesn’t cut it – - no more support – - no more money. My confidence in at LEAST one good man in Washington is gone – because my confidence was in you. I’m back at dismally feeling hopeless.

This appointment represents a clear and present danger to our friend Israel.  Read the Joel Rosenberg series on the Iran nuclear threat to Israel.  It insightfully illustrates the effect a weak US administration would have on foreign policy with Israel.  This isn’t splitting hairs at all.  Millions of lives will be in danger if Iran is able to fully develop their nuclear centrifuges, which they are in the process of diligently doing in Natanz right as we “split hairs” in this thread.  I’d advise you to call up any Israeli in Tel Aviv or Jerusalem and tell them about how this is no big deal, but you had better speak up as they might not hear you over the rockets flying over their heads.

A reasonable response with a sense of history. Bravo.

Personally, one of my best friends growing up is now in the IDF Special Forces, but while living in Norway I had a Palestinian room mate. I’ve heard both sides of the issue extensively.

I’ve come to support a bi-national state. The Palestinians should wage a non-violent campaign to gain citizenship and the right to vote in Israel.

The two state solution is just not viable.

See Stratfor:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/84981857/Stratfor-The-Geopolitics-of-Palestinians-Geopolitica-de-a

Rand admitted in his own words that he is ‘playing the game’. He is nothing more than a politician…period!

Israel’s motivations for acceptance of the partition is up for debate (some albeit few historians suspect based on their stances prior to 1948 they only accepted it b/c they knew the Palestinians wouldn’t).
You’re right, b/c of Israel’s connections to the west and location they get a lot of limelight that nations involved in similar if not worse acts such as Sri Lanka don’t have to deal with.
1948 (between Israel and the Palestinians not the arab nations) was mutual aggression, Israeli military forcibly expelled the residents of Haifa etc.
1967 was an act of Israeli aggression in response to the moronic military posturing of their Arab neighbors and barely involved the palestinians.
The question of who continually pokes and provokes who (Israeli settlements for an example of their side provoking…the palestinians actions of provocation or reaction depending on who you as are pretty obvious)
What matters is now the Palestinians are interested in a two state solution so we can make it happen, which is better than maintaining the current situation where too many people die without any coherent plan for change.
If the irish and the english can coexist (for the most part) now then it is certainly possible for Israelis and Palestinians but not if third parties continue to demonize and dehumanize one side or the other

Native Americans typically looked at personal propriety of any land to be a strangely European phenomenon.  It wasn’t until several hundred years of war and rampant homesteading that they understood, the Eastern seaboard got very crowded and it was easy to see why you couldn’t roam about freely and shoot buffalo (or anything for that matter) anymore.  Staying in one place is simply the easiest way to thrive.  Although the conflicts of white man vs.native and Arab-Israeli are different in nature, you actually are drawing a decent analogy here.  The white man was clearly in the wrong on this one.  Today the government funds Native Americans per capita more than any other group, and it isn’t even close.  I would also contend that we need to expand reservational territories.

Thanks, I’ve spent a lot of time studying Middle East History, namely Iran.
If the Palestinians had better tactics they could really pull off an anti-apartheid south africa sort of thing (ironically israel and south africa collaborated on making nukes back in the day).
The idealist in me thinks the best solution would be a one state solution…I just feel like two state is the most realistic for the time being, and the most achievable.
However, i post this without having read the article which I will definitely do tonight.

If I could, I’d grab hi and shake him, and say Rand, this rationalization is idiotic. You’re not convincing anyone. Basically what he is saying is that because the rest who might have had the votes to contend his appointment dropped out, he went ahead and voted yes, since his vote of no would not have mattered…. And, he also had the wacko notion that either you vote yes on all of them, or you vote no on all of them… What?? You vote each one as it comes. An anti-Semite, or an anti-American, GETS A VOTE OF NO, even if it won’t defeat his nomination. Of course! Why would you do ANYTHING else? At least you’re on record TRYING.

And the last ridiculous notion: the Senate not approving these appointees have never happened in our nation. Point? I don’t care if it’s looked on as a blaspheme, or heresy. You vote to DO THE RIGHT THING, period!

He really went off the rails here. I am as disappointed in any representative as can be hearing it, yet cannot be surprised, or moved to real anger anymore. He basically is making all of the above nonsense excuses because, in his mind, the real fight is on Brennan and the drones. This didn’t matter to him. Kerry didn’t matter to him. Yeah, I swear, this isn’t working. We have to try something else, because no-one is going to do it in Washington. It’s a vipers nest of plagued corruption that needs to be restarted from the ground up…

Building settlements is hardly equal to firing rockets at innocent civilians, no matter whose land it is on.

Apparently Rand Paul thinks that maintaining some kind of gentility in the Senate is more important than stopping some nut from abusing the military.

Another typical politician: me first, citizen last.

no SecDef nominated by Obama was ever going to ‘take a hard line with regard to Israel”, especially now that he doesn’t face re-election. when Obama won in Nov it was already game over.

so basically the republicans admit defeat before they even start to fight. great. boy, do i feel hopefull.

When I saw that Hagel had been confirmed I felt like someone had sucker-punched me in the stomach.  To find out that Rand Paul voted to confirm him makes my husband and I re-think our position of support.  He will NOT get any kind of support from us.  This was a major, major issue and he failed!

Sorry, Rand, but you caved. NOT what I or many, many others were looking for. If you THINK these jerks will honor their promises, then I have some of that ocean front property in Arizona to sell you. Right now, I think you could make a fortune on all of it that will be offered to you. You’re responses are the same old political crap that the Republicans have continued to show rather than exhibit a pair of gonads and challenge these jerks. Additionally, I am getting sick and tired of you NON military folks cntinuing to accept the likes of Kerry and Jane Fonda. You’re a disgrace to those of us who have put our butts on the line to defend the rights granted us by the Constitution. “He’s being dishonest with us” you say. I guess that justifies your ability to BELIEVE they will honor their promises. Until now, you have had 100% support from me but sorry; young man, you NOW have a way to go to get my support as a Presidential candidate with this line of thinking. Such “logic” just makes me SICK!

I agree with garysvent. I have been supporting Rand Paul in many things, but to just vote for Hagel instead of protecting the USA and Israel. Really took the cake. Apparently, he wants Obammy and Hagel in office, well I’m not supporting the three of them.

that is Bull. no matter how may les votes he had he should have stood by his on convictions which obviously were ot as important as joig the masses….he has lost my respect …he has joiined the masses….losers in all three houses …..

In 2014, elections will come and we can choose to vote all who voted for Hagel out of office.

Without judicial review? Are you kidding? obamma owns them you knuckle head! I not for you ever again traitor!

Brennen, Hagel, Kerry, Hillary, Geithner, Holder, and the rest are NOT the problem.  Barry Soetoro is the problem.  Any and every nominee he makes is going to agree with his Globalist, anti-Constitution, anti-American beliefs.  Holding up their nominations doesn’t do anything for us, only pay into their hands.  Yes, the Left does it to Republicans.  But holding up everything else to filibuster each nominee is pointless.

He obviously isn’t what we thought he is! He’s OUT!

Who are you going to vote for then guy?  He made a call, that was down the middle, and most importantly it is reasonable.  REASONABLE.  Isn’t that what we lack in our political leadership?  The best chance we have for someone who is reasonable is Rand Paul and he does one thing that you (and I) don’t like and he has “lost your vote, period”.  I will let  you in one a little secret….libertarians disagree with people ALL THE TIME!!!  THAT IS WHY THEY HAVEN’T BEEN A VIABLE PARTY, until now, if short sighted people like you would take a minute and realize that the person who you always agree with DOES NOT EXIST.  You can always just swallow whatever Karl Rove sends down the shoot.  WAKE UP!!!

I have friends in Israel that I will call up, and I did warn them, when Obama was elected. 

I think your getting away from the issue. This is an ADVISORY position. That’s what this cabinet is. Do you think any political appointee could advise Obama to be any less anti-Israel as he is now? Of course not! Especially considering this president is narcissistic and doesn’t listen to his cabinet anyway. I agree with Rand, let the president have whoever he wants. 

Rand, your vote to confirm Chuck Hagel as Secretary of Defense mattered to me even though you may have seen it as not mattering to anyone.  Obama’s appointment of Hagel appeared to me to be an intentional move to degrade, if not destroy, the military leadership of the U.S. Are there no graduates of the AF Academy, the Naval Academy, Westpoint, the Citadel or other
military training centers of the U.S. who are well educated enough in the discipline of military skills and military leadership to lead our Defense Department?  What qualifications does Hagel have to prepare him for the office of Secretary of Defense?  He, himself, said he would learn on
the job.  That’s a very dangerous way to get the skills one needs to insure the security of a country. The U.S. has invested millions of dollars in training men and women in the military academies in military strategy and leadership.  Where is our return on the money we’ve spent on the education of military leaders?

Sorry Rand, I’m not buying this a bit! If you have a any thread of a doubt —you vote no! You want proof…..do you think Obama is going to run in with all type of proof that Hagel is as pure as the snow—you have a problem sir. H-ll Obama has never given any proof who he is! How can you exept the decision of a president who has proven he is a socialist and is killing America? Don’t tell America you will stand by them and don’t do it. I’m smelling a ‘Rhino’ here!  

Well Senator, then all a nominee has to do is keep their mouth shut and/or deflect; because they know, eventually, they will be approved? 

Paul is another sell out no matter what he’s saying.

If someone, anyone doesn’t make a stand then we are all doomed to failure. If this man was not qualified before, then as far as I’m concerned he still isn’t. No excuses. I’m sorry to say sir that you have proven to me that you are not the one for change in D.C.

 My sentiment exactly!

Then how do you explain Tribal lands within the U.S.?

All Rand Paul is interested in daily is asking for donations!

Welcome Rand to the inner circle of hell

Wow attack of the double talk.

What a steaming pile of shyt he is spewing.

I agree with Rand Paul. The President was elected by a majority of the people. He should get his appointees in most cases. I am against just about everything Obama does but the majority of the American people like Obama and his agenda more than Romney’s. Appointees are only put in place to carry water for the President. There are much better issues to take a stand on. This one has no meaning beyond useless pestering. Republicans need to choose their battles more wisely. Voting against what is basically a President’s messenger and administrator is a waste of time. Republicans must be smarter in choosing their battles or the majority of the American people will look at them as those who cry woof. Republicans have to fight both Democrats and Libertarians on just about every issue. This gives Democrats a distinct advantage. They should concentrate on the most important issues with as much fight as they have in them and more. Appointees are mostly for political junkies to fight about and in the end one is just as bad as the other and only carries the President’s water.

You cant trust anyone any more. They all have to go

Poor Glenn another rhino springs from the bowels of DC

You just dont vote for this slime regardless.

They always fire the police, teacher, prison guards and BP’s just to scare everyone. did same shyt in 1995

A vote against Hagel was the way to advise the President that you thought the nomination was a bad one, Paul.

 Rand Paul, is lair, he agreed  with Hegel cuting the money to the army stooping giving money to Israel and the rest of it and he doesn’t wont to tel you ,
if you look at his policy ,it look like the same to Hegel.

Tread7 is stating an opinion that you don’t agree with, thereby your basis for calling this person short-sighted.  Libertarians are very close to being anarchist and that is where they lose their votes.  Rand Paul and his father Ron have always taken a laissez-faire stance on Iran.  This doesn’t resonate well with very many people.  What I do like about libertarians is that they are able to distinguish between personal freedoms and social issues.  The Democrats and Republicans take such a harsh stance on their beliefs, for better or worse, and lump their articulations into a giant wad a CPAC dough.  The libertarians are hard pressed to have a real opinion on anything, and instead try to hide their apathy under the guise of political moderation.  However, even though I am a registered Republican voter, I do feel that the 2016 election will be: Winner Democrat, runner-up Libertarian, followed by loser 3rd place Republican with the lousy campaign.

Yes,I was just beginning to think Rand Paul was a real stand out and stand up guy,but all this is sure changing my mind.I wouldn’t vote for anything Obama wants no matter what !

Rand Paul’s reasoning is so convoluted it makes my head hurt.  Today he sent out another solicitation email describing how he was hanging tough with the Brennan nomination.  The same thing repeated over again will net the same result.  Paul portrays this “I’ll fight for you attitude” then caves in with the typical go along to get along political theater.  

So what issue to run with then?  The SecDef job is a VERY important one.  He has the President’s ear on matters of intense morality and the safety of many human lives, here and abroad.  So what issue is there left to argue about?  The Republican party has been chastised for being pro-life, chastised for not agreeing to military spending cuts, not agreeing with unconstitutional Obamatax, not agreeing to singling out rich folks on the extention of the Bush tax cuts (divisive class warfare), criticized for referring to Democrats as Social Democrats (which is what they are), not wanting to fund Planned Parenthood with public money, not allowed to push through much needed entitlement reform…yada yada yada.  It seems that every single time the Republicans take a stance on anything they are simply told to shut up and give in.  Is this not a disturbing trend to you?  The Republican Party is in serious need of revamping its banality on everything.

Your missing the point and I knew you would. Libertarians do not care about effective political strategy to move the country in a positive direction. They care only about their political ideology to a point of martyrdom at the expense of any kind of effective political strategy. The only effective strategy Libertarians have is to berate Republican candidates for not being Libertarian enough. They are unwittingly allies of the left because of their lack of political savvy. In effect they have become tools of the left.

 I unstand your point and agree with a lot of it. I do not agree that policy comes frome the bottom up. Appointees are just messengers and administrators for the President Republicans need to choose their battles more wisely and fight them to the end. They should start with those they have the most support of from the voting public. Fighting issues that are unpopular with voters or of little consequence will only lead to them getting voted out of office as in the last election.

As far as I am concerned Rand Paul commited political suicide on this one.

Nope Rand,I am not buying it.You Sir,screwed up.A present,or a NO vote would have been the right way to go.I understand and care for your father. Rand,you are no Ron Paul.You,in your own way have sold us out.Your statements confirm to me that you have become part of the machine.You have let us down.Now Sir, you are a real D.C. Pol.You have recieved my last contribution.Good-bye.

I missed saying that I have little doubt that you will vote for that commie/islamist Brennan.Your in the bigtime now and following your masters wishes.I was hoping that you were differant and finally someone I could vote for for President.Thru your dbbl speak, I must say once more that now you are just one of the boys.Please remove me from your mailing list.I can deal with one mistake but thru your discussion with the host,you have really disappointed me.What a shame.So keep playing your political games.I guess the king really does not have any clothes.  

Sorry, Rand Pauls logic does not compute for me! Mr Paul states he tried everything to stop Hagels nomination but all failed. Thus he goes back to the argument the President is entitled to choose his cabinet as long as no information is fothcoming to demonstrate that the man is unamerican! So, Mr Paul gave him the thumbs up? Whatttt, if this isn’t the dumbest comment I have heard it ranks among the top ten! Thats like excusing your vote for a tyrant because you can’t stop the initial outcome so you fade back and give your approval. How is that to be viewed as an example to our young people! Mr Rand Paul, you still had a Constitutional obligation to demonstrate to those who voted you into office, that regardless if the “battle” was lost, you still show that your a man of Principle and do not condone and vote yes for a man of Hagels character and ideological position! You still should be required by your values and conscience to show your disdain for a man of so little competence.  Instead you took the odd position to say “oh well”, I tried, so let me say yes to confirming the confirmation of Hagel! What the hell do you think will be remembered Mr Paul, your vote to sustain a Filibuster or your yes vote to confirm Hagel!

what part of “you lost the election” don’t you understand? Focus on the loser part.

Sorry, but I don’t understand this. What questions did he want answered? I think there was more than enough information to indicate that Hegel was unqualified for the job. When have the Democrats ever shown deference to the nominees of a Republican president (John Bolton, Robert Bork, Clarence Thomas, numerous judicial nominees, etc.)? You don’t vote for someone whom you believe to be incompetent and a possible anti-Semite. Rand Paul has called for an end to foreign aid to Israel. I have questions about his father when it comes to Israel, and I have to say that the apple doesn’t appear to fall far from the tree. I’m sorry to say that because I like Rand Paul’s position on a lot of issues, but this is troubling to say the least.

AL C, You said alot in so few words.One day,they will all go,one way or another.I have come to the conclusion that none of them can be trusted anymore.It really is US against THEM.Really sad when you think you finally have someone that will fight for our rights,just to find out that he is just one of the boys that follows the losing republcan formula.Now, I am really disgusted with R.Paul and the rest of them.CW2 cannot happen soon enough.Well Said AL C. 

I was a Rand Paul fan, but his explanation on his vote for Hagel did not satisfy me one bit! He should be on DWTS.

I wish Glenn would address the subject of pressing the House to go ahead and impeach Obama. Glenn speaks with various members and surely has the freedom to speak of such things off air. When I asked a senator of my state about the subject, he wrote back to me stating that “while I do not agree with all of his policies, I have not seen anything that he has done of which is impeachable. However, I will continue to watch.”  
After all that has been done over the past few years, I am really really disappointed to see that a senator is merely sitting on his thumbs, with eyes closed and bananas stuffed in his ears. Is this what is happening with all of our elected Senators and Representatives???

Can anyone say ‘Scott Brown’?

In other words, if its ok with Barry, its ok with me…pathetic.

At least Ron Paul was very clear on his vision.His Son tho, just talks dbbl speak,and thinks we are all dummy’s.He has made his position clear after you hear this interview a few times.He is a sell out just like that freak Chris Christi.By the way Mr.New Jerksey,thanks for helping us lose the election.It will not be forgotton.Your dream of running for President,as with Rand Paul,is nothing but a wet dream.Most THINKING A mericans understand that it is only the republpukes are just a pack of scared mice.When will a real Conservitive arise through all these smoke and mirrors?God only knows if we are going to save this country from all the PC freaks,we need a real man or women to say what we all are thinking on the national stage.I fear that they no longer exsist.Our country is in deep trouble, so we need someone real for a change.For the life of me,when will an elected pol say out loud what oz-bongo is and be upfront and not fearful of truth?  

NOPE

I can’t believe that I’m saying “I can’t believe it” again.  It seems it’s like the loudest and longest echo of all time.  When, where, why, and how will any elected official ever understand and or live by the principals of: right, wrong, good, bad, holy, unholy, ethical, unethical, moral, amoral, lawful, unlawful, and just plain common sense.  You can’t justify or explain away, no matter how you try, Rand Paul’s decision on voting “YES” on Chuck Hagel.  Every time you think there is a person somewhere out there that can help us save this great country you find some form of unadulterated crap like this.  Rationalize or “Negotiate” away all your principles and freedoms and then what….. GOD help us!!!  

Sorry but Rand Paul just lost my support and the support of many that would have been behind him for President.  He also voted for traitor Kerry.  I can understand a certain respect for the President and his choices for his cabinet.  BUT Obama is NOT our President.  He is a fake and a fraud.  The man deserves no respect.  He is determined to destroy this country.  That is is his goal.  And Rand Paul by voted in support of Hagel and Kerry is helping Obama accomplish his goal.  Sorry but no second chances anymore for ANY candidate.  

Lets see….Bengazi,Oz-bongo care ect.All inpeachable offences.But we do not have anyone that has the balls to start the movement for inpeachment.The republipukes are all spineless.I had high hopes for R.Paul,but he is nothing but a tool.Our leadership in the House and Senate disgust me in total.With them at the helm,oz-bongo will always get what he wants.When was the last time you heard any of them discuss de-funding oz-bongo care.They have opted out and will recieve top of the line care,while we suffer.They are all statist,and really do not care about the working class or for that matter,the Doctors which every day are begining to reject medicare and or medicade.This nation is falling apart.Oz-bongo has caused division among our peoples.It will all come back to haunt them a little sooner than even I exspected.

Legally, the CIA cannot operate in the United States. However, under the present administration, I would not put it past these fools to violated everything there is to violate (and get away with it.) Paul is wrong in this case and he was wrong in the Hagel matter.

I cannot get behind Rand Paul on this. Principles are principles…..you either vote your beliefs or you have no back bone. STAND UP FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN!!!! Even  Veggie Tales and my children understand this concept!

Paul just said that someday we will have a Republican president! Yeah right. At the rate these radicals are going and the Republicans are backing up, I doubt that we will ever have a Rep President again.

I respect Rand but I do not agree with him about his votes on Hagel and Kerry. He should have been on record as voting no

I’m done with Rand Paul. I get several e-mails every day looking for $ &
support. I wrote letters on his advice to John McCain in order to stop Hagels nomination, called my
Senators, and forwarded everything to help as much as possible and then he votes
for him. It’s a sad, very sad day for our country & Israel.

I think deference is ok, when you are dealing with a regular president,not the one we have who wants to make us weak and ineffectual. He could have still made a stand by voting no. He let us down. 

I disagree with Rand Paul, and he’s going to have to be a lot more of a man than he was on this  to make me vote for him for anything, now. Just because McCain and Graham and bunch of other gutless wonders bailed on the filibuster doesn’t mean you should join them. Sometimes the answer the President gets is NO!!! I’m sick of every time there’s an issue that calls for compromise, the Republicans are expected to cave. I also expect them to stop being so pitifully gutless that they oblige. This was one critical vote on a man that many Republicans said was not qualified to be Secretary of Defense. So we let the President have an unqualified man take the reigns of the military because the President wants him!?! There are parent’s who give their child anything he wants because he throws a fit. I thought Congress knew better than that. Does this mean we’re going to be obliged to put up with the idiot Obama has nominated for the CIA Director, as well? 

HEY, REPUBLICANS, GROW A PAIR!!!

Let me understand Rand Paul voted for Hagel because everyone else did? If everyone decided to eat poop sandwiches would you do it too? Thats crazy and shows me that this is not the man I thought he was. Dont waste your time running for president in 2016 your as loony as your father.

They already have a two and three state solution.  The Arabs call those states Jordan and Gaza.  Under the Balfour Declaration, the line that would separate Jewish fm Arab states was the Jordan River, recognizing the historic ties Jews had to Judea and Samaria (aka West Bank).

More Jews were kicked out of Arab countries across the Mideast and N Africa than Arabs leaving, mostly by choice but some by force.  If Arabs have a right or return, then do Jewish Egyptians get to return and have their belongings restored to them, too?  Or is right of return only valid for islamic supremacists?

Arabs were offered citizenship w/all rights but many chose to side w/the pan-Arab armies that were going to push the Jews into the sea.  More than a few sold their holdings in what was Israel in hopes that Jews would be killed off and they’d get their land back and have Jewish money on top of it.  Well, that did not exactly work out for them…

If you will notice, all of these so called “ultra conservative” senators cave on issues after a token resistance.  Rand Paul on this (and this is not the only thing). Marco Rubio on illegal aliens.  There are also others.  We hear now that the Retards are caving on the “sequester”.  What are we going to do?  We vote in Tea Party Conservatives thinking they will represent us……but they don’t. Ted Cruz seems to be the only dependable politician.

While I understand the basic reason (to let a president decide who he wants in his cabinet) Senator Paul gave for eventually voting for Hagel, I do not agree that he should have. When we have a president like the current National Shame, who takes lying and deceitfulness to a whole new level and is stacking his cabinet and staff with other enemies of the United States and those with leftist & radical points of view–who are interested in changing our history and making America just another 3rd world nation–I say to give this guy the thumbs-up on anything he wants–even implied agreement that this vote was–is not acceptable and sends a divided message on just what it is exactly that Senator Paul will fight for and believes….AND gives the egomaniac more of the power, or delusions of grandeur he already has WAY too much of. I am tired of this wishy-washy approach to whatever the issue or circumstance is. It is time for Conservatives to develop a TOUGH SPINE and FIRMLY SET THEIR JAWS and hold the position that matches their words. We need leaders, not more mealy-mouthed, middle-of-the-road excusers…we have an overabundance of them already. Senator Paul–I admire you and agree with alot of your points of view…PLEASE, remember that you are in a pit of vipers and act accordingly TOUGH & STRONG…like Alice Cooper says:”NO MORE MR. NICE GUY!”   

Rand Paul, (and Glenn, I hope you’re paying attention because this is what you should have asked Sen. Paul), Sen. Paul you took an oath to defend our Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic and now you say you think ”unless I can find information that they’ve taken money from a foreign government or given us information that was not accurate” you’ll go ahead and help the president make appointments that are bad for America?  So you’d ok the appoiintment of a rapist?, A felon?  Come on Sen. Paul, the appointment is either good for our country or it’s not good for our country.  Are you representing the people who elected you when you think an appointee will be bad for America but you vote yes anyway just because of this BS about ok’ing a presidential appointment?  So does that mean if this president gets the chance to appoint another Supreme Court Justice and comes up with another Sonia Sotomayor, or Elena Kagan who will damage our constitution for several decades YOU WILL OK THEM IF YOU CAN’T FIND PROOF THEY ACCEPTED MONEY FROM SOME FOREIGN GOVERNMENT OR GIVEN US INFORMATION THAT IS NOT ACCURATE?  IS THAT WHAT YOU’RE SAYING SEN. PAUL?  Because if that’s what you’re saying I’m never going to donate any more money to you, in fact I’m going to donate money to get you defeated.  THAT GLENN BECK IS WHAT YOU SHOULD HAVE TOLD SEN. PAUL INSTEAD OF YOUR SOFT BALL BS “PLEASE TELL ME THE SEQUESTRATION WILL STAND… Oh yes your lord high master Sen Paul please at least toss me one bone and I’ll continue to be your faithful lapdog.  No, you should have told him “Sen. Paul if you vote yes for presidential appointees you know will be bad for America then I’ve got no use for you and I will not support you anymore.”  Got that Glenn?

do you guys know this thread was about Sen. Paul and not about Israel?

Rand Paul etal, wonder WHY we mistrust them as Wimps?  They ‘All roll over to give into Obama and have from day one.  We have Rino’s, Talkers, Teary Eyed Speaker Boehner, the
McCain/Graham team of ‘big talk, big rollovers’, so wonder WHY this GOP party is in trouble?
They CAnnot be trusted AND GIVE IN TO OBAMA AT EACH AND EVERY TURN.  They don’t seem to realize that HE is taking America down a Very Dangerous path and he actually dislikes
“Arrogant(his words) America”.   They sat back and allowed cheating and didn’t demand recounts, but instead rolled over for Obama and allowed him to steal this 2nd term.  I will NOT vote Republicans ever again-and today I told one who called me-what I wrote above.I’m done.

Glen, Be onest with yourself. Do you think OBAMAnation would appoint anyone better than Hegal? Repub’s are against him because they want us to continue as the world’s policeman, and we can’t, Glen. We are so debt ridden, we’re about to collapse. We’ve, along with OBAMAnatons wild spending, and world policing, put our decendants in servatude.

First, the war in 1948 was fought between Israelis, Jordanians, Egyptians, Lebanese, Syrians, Iraqi, and a group of volunteers from other Arab countries, not “palestinians” they rejected a state. In 1967, the Israelis fought their Arab neighbors as they were the countries that existed then. In 1964, the PLO was created when Gaza was under Egyptian control and the West Bank was under Jordanian control, why didn’t they build a state then?

It’s also well documented that the “palestinians” want to use the two state solution to weaken Israel. Their goal is still the same, to eliminate the State of Israel. If the “palestinians” are so interested in peace why do they boycott Israel, why are their no peace rallies in Gaza or the West Bank, why are “palestinians” assassinated when they are found aiding Israelis or are considered friendly to them?

On the issue of settlements, the first settlements were Jews returning to areas they had been expelled from by the Jordanians after the 1948 war. The other settlements were built on empty land. Most of the settlements would be by most standards considered suburbs of Israel’s cities they wouldn’t make it impossible or even that hard for the “palestinians” to have a continuous state if such an agreement were to happen. The settlement issue is a myth and an excuse the “palestinians” use to not come to the peace table because they know they are not serious about peace.

Think I too agree with Jalina.  I hoped his ‘big talk, was real, but he Rolled Over and joined the club of Wimps”

“But, in this case, I decided that no information came forward that would have eventually disqualified him.”
That’s because they refused to give you the information you demanded, Rand!  What makes you think they’ll give you any concessions on Brennan when they know you’re bluffing? All they have to do is wait you out and ignore your demands and you will fold in the end. You’ve already told them that’s what you’re going to do. Apparently, all this bluster is just for show. Once you’ve fooled voters back home into thinking you’ve tried your best, you’ll give Obama everything he wants.

Can someone please teach these Republicans how to play cards? You can’t win if you tell your opponent in advance that you’re bluffing, or announce that you plan to fold your hand if the betting gets too hot for you to handle. And you certainly won’t win if you show your cards in advance. Boehner did just that with the fiscal cliff talks when he volunteered to Obama that he was willing to raise taxes before negotiations had even begun. Then he acted all surprised when Obama doubled down on his bet. 

The United States is one of the few countries in the world that can stop countries like North Korea and Iran. If the US doesn’t go after these people who will? Trust me, you wouldn’t like a world with North Korea and Iran having nuclear weapons.

They are TOO STUPID to realize that Obama is set on ‘Destroying the Republican Party, so that DemonRats can control what he has started- The Amerika, that is what his Commie Father, Frank Marshall Davis taught him-  We have NO Leadership of ANY party folks.

Thank you for your input bert28 – I totally agree!

Good post.  Rand, Boehner, McCain, Graham, Thune, etal Folded like “Cheap Suits”
They can NOT be trusted, and I better NOT get any emails asking for money- They have NOT represented me and my family in getting rid of this Fraud in our Whitehouse.

Excellent Post.  I hope Glenn Beck reads some of these posts. These GOP people are “Gutless, Wimps who Roll Over for Obama and Boehner just Cries. Sickening.

We are into the 5 year of Change we were promised – And Wise, Mighty, and Noble are doing nothing for We the People – As Beck said several years ago on following the herd that is headed towards the cliff …

The 7th Day Humbling of Mankind – The Beginning of the End of the Age - at Amazon.com

hacham, Israel has proved that we’ve enabled them (through 50 yrs of billions financial aid, neuclar weapons, modern armaments, and modern aircraft), that they can, very well, take care of themselves. Remember the 6 day war? Yet, they ar our ally, and if we see that they can’t, then we should interceed. I’m jst sick of American soldiers dying when they shouldn’t have been sent. Geo. Washington warned, in his fairwell address, for America not to get entngle i old world conflicts. We can no longer afford this.

He COULD have chosen a better SecDef and done something right for ONCE.  But of course you’re correct here, I’d be a naif to think he actually would.

The fact that we can override a nominee to the Cabinet is supposed to be a check on the President.  Isn’t it a shame that it never works?

Yep, he was another Rino-

If, a President is mature thinking, offers full disclosure of his background, and is not greedy wanting to Take Over the freaking Country …Sure, show some respect where respect is due Rand. 

Name 1 thing Rand this President offered for such respect. 1              

But Paul still had the option of voting no and sticking by it. He had a choice.

Save a fast one trillion, toss out Obamacare, that way we aren’t paying for illegals right now when we can’t afford it. They will go home.
Stop foreign aid, no tanks or jets to Egypt, they just want us dead anyway.
Get rid of the IRS, which can’t handle their job now and Obama wants them to handle the medical, go to a straight simple flat tax.
Rid of FDA, they are so amazingly corrupt anyway, they are approving dangerous drugs at an alarmingly rate to the highest bidder, the EPA, who Obama admitted to using to shut down the rest of our industry.
Get out of the UN, over 10 billion a year there, we are blamed for sticking our noses into business all over the world, let the, handle it now.
Stop the fancy vacations, over 2 billion a year.
The list goes on, but no, Obama hates our military so much they and federal employees, just regular people on hourly wage, have to give up 20% of their take home pay, how is is sharing the burden when no one else is doing it?

But it means those trying to put food on the table have to give up 20% of their take home, really add to do. Time for sharing the load with those in DC.

on some levels they could consider that an invasion (already lost what they consider to be half of their country and now the prospect of losing more, which is hte purpose of the settlements so Israel can claim that land in any negotiated solution)…nevertheless I did not mean to imply they were equal just that Israel is far from innocent of provoking or even initiating violence.

i don’t see the point here and i said it was a loose comparison but still fell in line with the over all train of logic being applied to Israel

I’m sorry Senator Paul, this idiot was a disgrace and a blithering idiot who couldn’t stand on two legs during his questioning. He proved his incompetence and one thing you didn’t understand that Obama could care less what information you want to extract, they have not been forthcoming on any issues and the WH will continue to flip you the bone. You have to fight tooth & nail on any idiot Obama places before your committee.

Of course you use the basic presumption that Arabs are Arabs and should view themselves as a single ethnicity. This is over simplistic and makes many false assumptions about the nature of relations between nations and different groups.
The Balfour declaration has no legal authority anymore and can only be used to show that a lot of the geopolitical mess in the Mideast is thanks to the UK and the French from WWI treaties and the mandate period.
“mostly by choice”- if you leave by choice you weren’t kicked out. Tens of thousands of Jews still live peacefully in Iran and travel freely to Israel.

A couple of things more in response and less nitpicky; Hamas (yeah even these crazy guys) and the PA are willing to concede the right of return (which is claimed by Palestinians and not Arabs. Pretty much all Palestinians are Arabs…not all Arabs are Palestinians. Important distinction otherwise you immediately assume Jordan and Gaza etc are all the same thing and view the issue the same way), so that’s mostly no longer an issue.
The basic idea is that the refugees were kicked out or fled to avoid a war they were not directly involved in and were not allowed to return to their homes when it was over.
I don’t have much of an opinion on right to return, its not going to happen and the Palestinian leaders have mostly realized this and are striving for achievable goals like having a state and attempting to build some sort of economy. Realistically right of return went out the window after about a decade, morally I don’t know if where I think it would fall, but that is mostly mute since it ain’t gonna happen and most people involved are well aware of this fact.

Rand Paul is running for President in 2016.  The reality is that when the Republicans can’t block a nomination then Rand figures that by spewing this excrement he’s stating that if he wins the presidency he can try to say “hey, I voted for your guys because I felt the president deserves to appoint his cabinet.  Now you guys need to show me the same curtousy.”  Of course democrats don’t work that way but I’m thinking he is thinking that he can somehow pressure them by pointing out his voting record for appointees.  Won’t make any difference anyway.  Democrats will never allow a Republican president to appoint a conservative to anything without a full out war to block them regardless of Rand does.  

In terms of having a state in the modern world you don’t just get to declare that you have a state, you need UN recognition.
In the early years the Palestinians struggled having any sort of unification, they were allowed a lot of autonomy under Ottoman rule but the British were very good at (as a basic tactic of their colonial rule no matter where they were) keeping the Palestinians divided and squabbling throughout the mandate period. The PLO was only formed as late as 1964 b/c by then it became apparent to the Palestinians that the other Arab nations had no real intent on keeping their promise of reconquering palestine and that they needed to make their own effort, and also to fight some of the Arab governments (who were not fans of the PLO) who were mistreating or taking advantage of the Palestinians. They’ve faced a lot of obstacles, namely themselves (they’ve been fairly incompetent, especially in the early years, about how to go about dealing with their plight). That and there’s this stupid idea (not well documented) that a Palestinian state would jeopardize Israel, so we try to prevent it from happening. The main reason though that a two state solution wasn’t agreed to in the 90s, was Sharon did some stupid stuff to antagonize people and undermine Ehud, and no agreement could be made on how to divide the holy sites.

Two separate things, map of settlements on the west bank http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.zionismexplained.org/apartheid/israelisettlements_westbk2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.zionismexplained.org/apartheid/apartheid.html&h=350&w=300&sz=32&tbnid=hst_JC_1dX6iZM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=77&zoom=1&usg=__6mcWZYEvnV-awLV0RCubFNe7mKc=&docid=oi4Cw8VHl8zzZM&sa=X&ei=_2QwUcT1II7A9gSi0YCYBQ&ved=0CEQQ9QEwBQ&dur=565
it’s a big url but you’ll see the settlements are all over the place in the West bank and expanding and part of Likkud’s strategy of being able to claim more land before there is a solution (a radical wing, I mean really radical, of that party even claims that the majority of Jordan should belong to Israel and state that as a goal). Empty land or not it is still considered to belong to the Palestinians (even Bush forced Israel to stop construction and tear some down). We have tons of empty land and if Canada, to use the every popular comparison, were to start building settlements on it we’d be pretty mad.

and Palestinian peace movement stuff http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/dec/23/israel-palestinian-peace-movement if you ask you shall receive

I’m sick of the Republican party.  Straight to hell with the cowards.

What I got from Rand Paul’s message to Glenn, “well to have my Republican  cohorts be supportive of my 2016 Presidential run, then I will have to go along with the flow!” He is basically saying, getting elected is more important than WHY you went to Washington in the first place.

…so why did you confirm him?  i think if people are confused about his answer, it’s because he makes no sense.  he still is making no sense.  if a guy is not qualified to hold an office (i don’t care about deference to the president) you shouldn’t nominate or confirm the guy.

disappointed.

 You are right, it was Arafat and the liberal news took it from there. The “Palestinians” are a clan of Arabs that were unwanted by most all other Arab states, that is were they were allowed to go, Israel, or encouraged!
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I think he has bee mislead or hasn’t had the backing of the gop. ? WHY don’t we get to vote  on  these positions.

So being a rabid anti Semite does not qualify as information that was troubling enough to stop his nomination? Are these WA. DC FREAKS so screwed up that a ranting, raving, MENTALLY ILL, ha te filled RAC IST is acceptable if the almighty ObaMAO says so? Are you f—ing kidding me?

Do you really think that he would have been confirmed if he spoke the same way about lslam & mu slims?

Rand is proving to be erratic at best, on board for amnesty for ILLEGALS & now this, very troubling.

This is what I was afraid of some while back.  None of these people are going to do anything that is not expedient for themselves to get what THEY want, not necessarily what is good for the country.  Whether they are D, R, or I (which encompasses at least some of the Tea Party people now) they all speak with a lying, deceitful tounge.  We have very few truthful politicians of any stripe.

Rand, when you vote for a position you are saying, “I have advised and you did or did not take my advice, but even though I don’t  think he can do the job I will vote for this person”. What that says to me is I am a sell out.

I am sorry to say that the man I thought Rand Paul was is not all true. Although he is a good man, he is still a politician. Darn!

There is always a right or wrong. Right or wrong does not depend on the situation or future actions. I think if you think a person is not the right person you should vote No, even if the count is 99 to 1.

If you feel strongly enough to lobby against an individual then you should follow through with a Nay vote. This is what the American people are looking for in a politician. Even if you know he will be nominated, vote your gut feeling even if it means unsuccessful. Its the record that counts on your behalf. later down the line people will only look at the record and not the details. For heavens sake draw a line in the sand and stand by it.

Sorry Senator, it turns out your principles are seasonal.

ridiculous answer! NONE OF EVIL HUSSEIN-OSAMA oops OBAMA SHOULD BE IN OFFICE! HUSSEIN-OBAMA SHOULD NOT BE IB OFFICE NOR ANY OF HIS NOMINEES THEY ARE ALL ANTI-AMERICAN AND ANTI-ISRAEL!!NO ON ANY OF THESE!  Rand you are an idiot!
Republicans wont be in office with what you are doing hussein-obama is putting forth a dictator ship…

You can try to justify anything but when you go against Israel, you have crossed the line. PERIOD! 

we tried to help the indians to become civilized. Israel and Palestines war goes back to the bible the word of God. palestines,islam who they really are, have been fighting to be God’s chosen One’s since Abraham. it goes back to Jacob(israel)(Gods chosen one) and ishmael(the illegitimate slave)

I will never support this man again. He is a idiot!!!

Mr. Paul, What a HUGE mistake!

This man has no idea of right and wrong. I am just sick over this whole interview. I use to have hope for paul.  He is nothing but a unmoral loser. What and the He&* is going on in this country. paul is a fool. Bottom line he is just another lieing idoit. Man I am just sick to my stomach. Lord help us. I can’t believe this guy had me fooled. I am just glad I saw he true colors before I voed for him again.

Israel Is Gods Chosen One and Islam Is Gods illegitimate Slave And ‘Pallestine’ is too stubborn to realize that..obstinate like Pharroh…not letting Gods people go….their stubborness will be their utter destruction…and HUSSEIN-Obama IS one of those Islamist Terrorist wanting Israel’s destruction..thats why BHO picks His nominees,,,Get That Rand..its not a party thing the way you do things. its an anti-israel anti-American thing…For a World Wide Islamic Caliphate! and as George Soros Puts It a One World Government A New World Order!!

I’m Sorry….. Not good enough !
They have all sold their souls to the devil and I’m done with them.
We’ve been sold out , AGAIN !
I’m changing my party to NP after being a life long Republican , Now I don’t even trust them…

Thank you Rubio, for standing up and listening 

 You’re spewing smoke Rand. You didn’t vote your conscience or your constituents you voted with evil. You’re done as far as I’m concerned. Go home.

This is a perfect example of a Rino Republication.  As is Gov of Florida, Walker.  They are fine with the conservitive votes until it comes to their election potential, and then they change to the position which they think gives them the edge in upcoming electiions.  I am sure that the Republican party was all over Paul as a goose on a junebug.  If he had any convictions, then he would have held his own and voted no even if he was the single no vote.  Same with Walker.  Tea Party put him in office due to his stance on the Obama Care.  But as soon as things got tough, he folded.  That is the main reason the country will never return to their roots and we can consider we are a liberal country from now on.  Live with it!

All these posts about Israel and Palestine seem to be way off topic of the article.I believe that the topic is about Rand Paul and not meoddle East conflicts.

 paul’s vote and response is a disgrace! He should be fighting too keep Americans in the positions that matter to Americas security? Will fight with us through whatever happens, not having a individual plan at the last minute which serves the traitor’s in this administrations war on America remaining American! !!!

glen , you’ll never know what you’ve meant to this country. but like ALL MEN , you have some weak spots, that frankly AREN’T correct/naive!. first one. i’m an old street fighter, alot of military history in the family tree. dude virtue “ALONE” WILL NOT keep our guns, once there gone- it’s dogpile,buddy. 2nd,no conspiracy- groups.???.. my grandmother warned me of this day, being a “bircher” she unfolded the story,( along w/the bible)telling the story  that we’re living in now… and those people have been shaking down people like rand paul since day one. it’s WE- THE- PEOPLE!!! who have the power to change this, by turning with open face and open hearts ,’BACK to Jesus Christ- and i’m talking about the so-called Church, the idol worshipping,apostate, lukewarm, Church. then go into the street and freedom has NEVER, been free , nor will be now. 

In Reno, NV there is legal prostitution. One can pick the physical characteristics of the partner, and the type of “trick” for an all inclusive price. In Washington, DC, prostitution per se is a minor business because the politicians offer an ever changing variety of “tricks”, but at constantly increasing prices. So there just aint enough money available for the professionals and the talented ameteurs.

Paul’s job is to “defer” to the people he is supposed to keep safe-not a President-who is supposed to be responsible to the people. Rand Paul just lost my support.

Yep!  Let’s strive for absolute perfection from every Conservative candidate.  Who wants to win elections anyway?  We are far better off sticking with our hard lline with our candidates, and let the Progressive Socialists win the elections.  Look how great we are making out with the past two Presidential elections.  Heck, if we stay home in 2014 the Democrats can have complete control again…. and that should really fix things.

Or we could settle for some imperfections, and vote for the less than absolute perfect candidate.  Who knows we might even win an election and take away much of the power of the Progressives. 

But my bet is that we will stay home and blow another election, which might just be our last opportunity!

Sorry Rand Paul.  I’m finished with you.  I thought those of us that believe in freedom and believe in Israel had a friend in you.  Apparently, I was wrong.  Will not EVER get my vote!

glenn you let Paul off the hook.  you were soft as pudding on him, he did an obama on you and talked off the questions and you let him do it.  please don’t be like bill and shawn….  our fellow country men don’t have access we need people to hold these people to the truth.  you did not do that today.  now we are disappointed in you.  America don’t put your freedom up for others to maintain.  they will always disappoint because they will always feel/think what they know and you don’t is what’s important.  As for you paul i am glad you showed your true colors early America take note.  

In your view, it is not the #1 ally, but infact your one and only ally and you could care less about any other country in the world, including your own.  A sick one issue voter.

You would rather take Obama over Rand – sad, but true of many conservatives.  Forget that Rand is the only one that is working to get Obama admin/Brennan issue a stmt that it will never drones in US skies.  You could care less about drones, ndaa or anything that is anti-freedom.

  This vote made me lose respect for thr man. If he feels the president should get his way, Why vote at all. If it was turned around and we had a Rep president the Dem would do everything in their power to get their way. The rep need to get a mean as the Dem.
  Why ain’t there people looking into the 2012 election. If one person votes twice that takes away another vote. If our troops can’t vote no one has the right to vote. Why am I the only one that feels this way. For two elections that I knoe of the right to vote of our troops was taken away. I’m a dem now but will soon be ind. I can’t stand both parties. They are all the same.
  Why can’t we find people that will stand up for the country, not the party?  They all let the party think for them. If they can’t think for themself they need to wash dishes for a living. There needs to be a 3rd party. I’m sick of voting against someone and being forced to vote for someone I have to hold my nose when I vote. This last election has made we wonder why should I take the time to vote.  I can’t believe how stupid the American people are now.

It is absolutely not true that your ‘friends and family” matter more than Israeli politicians.  Since Israel is the main issue for you, then your friends and family are also in danger as they likely live here.  You put Israel over your own friends and family, for sure. Hence, American is in this state because of such thinking.

Why did you refuse to get heated over Rand’s confirmaton of all of Obama’s appointees?  As he said, he believes any president has leeway to choose his cabinet unless Rand gets some information like they get funding from foreing gov’t, etc..

Warmonger  Beck Presses Rand on Hagel Vote

~ Beck will never figure out why Libertarians fail to include him in their movement?
~ Somebody needs to inform him, that having a picture of Lincoln on his set is an automatic exclusion from his inclusion to the Liberty movement, not to mention his stand as an Israel-firster.
~ How can anybody who supports a President, who formented the greatest destruction of our Constitutional Liberties created by our Founders, attacked his own citizens, which lead to over 600,000 deaths, believe he can be included in the Liberty Movement?
~ If he was really about Liberty, Beck would have hit Rand on his support for Brennan ‘The Drone Warrior’ who believes in murdering his own citizens, not Hagel.

Yes sir…. You Libertarians has such a strong base that you do not need any additional support!/S

There is no doubt about Brennan. That guy is arrogant and leftist. He is not the man for the job if we want to keep a secure and cnstitutional America. As for Rand P., I just am floored by his
latest thoughts on this interview. I’m really getting worried even more. Thanks for your stepping up to question Rand Paul and anyone else you can squeeze beneficial info from.    

I agree with you, ALL of those items you mentioned need to go away forever, they have done nothing but corrupt Our Country and Politics.  People are going to go into a mass hysteria when Obummer Cuts the Military in Half (to start), and that is not for saving money but taking more Control Over the Common Man/Woman.  When they start dropping bombs from drones into our local communities (they don’t care about Our Rights or Constitution, and they will just write laws that give them False Authority).

Now on the Federal Workers (unions walk out to hurt businesses into doing their bidding) we need people to stand up and walk away long enough to sway Popular Opinion.  Similar to what the NY City Waste Workers did and let the garbage pile up and the Common Man/Woman including also some elites are Totally Fed Up With The Situation.  We Cannot Afford All of Those Jobs Anyway, many, many, many people would just go to work in the private sector instead (There would be those that complain till the earth ends, but in reality more of them would end up more of their hard earned money in their pockets because of less Taxes Would Be Required).  If Welfare went away then many Inner City Poor People would leave to farms to grow their own food if it is not handed to them in a basket.  Well you understand, because the list of cuts could take a thousand pages to write…

RAND PAUL IS JUST ANOTHER TWO-FACE POLITICIAN.  I HAVE WRITTEN ON MANY SITES FOR HIM TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT IN THE LAST 3-4 YEARS.  HIS STUPID DECISION REGARDING HAGEL LOST ME AND I WOULD NEVER VOTE FOR HIM FOR ANY POSITION.  HE CERTAINLY CANNOT BE COUNTED ON IN ANY POSITION.  THE STUPID IDIOT COULD HAVE VOTED NO!! NO!!  I DON’T EVEN WANT TO HEAR HIS STUPID NAME EVER AGAIN. IF “IT’S” (HE/SHE) A POLITICIAN “IT’S” STUPID, CROOKED AND TWO-FACED.  RAND PAUL, YOU LOST A LOT OF PEOPLE!!!!!  ALWAYS REMEMBER, YOU CAN ALWAYS “VOTE NO” WHEN YOU DON’T AGREE WITH SOMETHING AND IF YOU “VOTE YES” YOU ARE SAYING “I AGREE” AND THEN WE KNOW THAT YOU ARE A TWO-FACED CROOK, PERIOD.  GOODBYE, RAND PAUL, YOU ARE JUST AN “UNDER COVER”, CROOKED GOVERNMENT LOVER AND TALKING OUT BOTH SIDES OF YOU CROOKED MOUTH.  GOD BLESS AMERICA.

The Whitehouse does not have the authority, according to the Constitution, to make war without consent of Congress, but the War Powers Act passed by Congress destroyed that part of the Constitution. 

Why  do you Republican`s always shoot yourselves in the foot, no head, and these excuses you guys makeup are lame. Just think I, was behind you for 2016, now I, don`t know.

Bert28, I wish I could’ve given you 10 more “Like”s. It seems to me that Rand Paul voted for Hagel when he realized that the numbers weren’t in the favor of his better judgement. He saw a defeat coming and rather than make a stand, he gave in and went with what he saw as the winning team. I’ve no respect for people who don’t stand up for what they believe in. Even if they later change their minds due to ANY reasoning, consideration, new beliefs, or whatever, I can understand why they would then do something they would not have done before. But to simply GIVE UP just because it looks as though you will probably not “win”, I can not understand and do not forgive, no matter what the issue, belief, idea, or whatever it may be. At that point, I think Paul was considering his political career more than using his better judgement and standing up for what he felt was the “right thing”. Too bad. Just one more politician who changes the actions that should be governed by their beliefs and better judgement. I was hoping that Paul would be better, or at least different than that. 

You’ve made a false segue way.  I do care about the drone issue and things having to do with freedom.  You’ve also made an unsolicited comment to me.  I will tell you my opinions about drones or anything else, if you ask me what I think of them.

Again, you are telling me how I feel.  Fuck you, I will tell you how I feel.  I don’t like you.  That’s how I feel.

I appreciate your sentiment here.  People don’t realize when they’ve won a point for their soul.  If you are a lone Senate member who objects to a nominee on moral grounds, and are outvoted 99 to 1, your one vote makes you the grand champion of your cause.  This is because you were in the highest position to do something, and were the only one willing to take a stand.  In a lot of cases this would cost you your Senate seat.  If the vote was even 98 to 2, even while gaining that extra vote, you and the other dissenting Senator are now CO-champions of a cause and your stance has only half the significance.  

I was going to lambast this bozo, but I have just plain given up on Rand Paul.

Moral integrity is far more important than winning elections.

What the ADVISORY appointment amounts to is a shovel full of crap being thrown onto a mountain of crap. Unfortunately Conservatives can’t stop any of the shovel fulls anymore.

No matter who goes to Washington, or what their principles are before they get there, they all seem to get corrupted after they have been there for awhile, it’s just a matter of to what degree” McCain, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor and others continue to treat this President as they would treat and respect any other president, with no acknowledgement of his actions and goals for the country! They give him the “traditional” respect of the office when he has done nothing traditional, and appears to be destroying our economy, culture, values, and traditions as fast as he can, including being very Muslim Brotherhood-friendly, which is destroying our National Security. Also aggressively PRO-abortion, PRO-Gay-Marriage, and only represents the citizens who vote for him and “buy his B.S” The rest of us HAVE no representation as he could care less what we think, feel, want, or the hardships he is creating for us. Obamacare is minimalizing Health Care for Seniors, Medicare is turning into Medi-CAN’T, and he appears to think we should all just take Pain meds, and die as soon as possible, unless of course, we are Democrats. Or illegal aliens. 3 years and 10 months to go.
I plan on out-living the b–tards! The ultimate revenge!  

I don’t see anything wrong with Rand Paul’s actions. 

I am not happy with Rand Paul anymore….he has lost my support

Let’s really examine this:
Hagel is a Republican and served in the military. Will he be the best Sec. of Defense? Only time will tell. In the end, it could have been worse. Rand voted to confirm a a Republican who served in the military. Obamao could have put up a left wing radical that never served, like Van Jones. I really do not think this is as bad as all of you are making out.

First, stop acting as if you re the end all, be all of Libertarianism. Second, what exactly do you have against Lincoln? Are you believing the left wing lies about him? Third, I do not agree with everything Glenn says or has done, but at least he is making the attempt to come around. Fifth, exactly which president are you referring to that formented the greatest destruction of Freedom? Sixth, I doubt you have been a Libertarian as long as some of us, so who are you to open your pie hole and think you speak for me? You claim to be about freedom and Constitutional liberties, yet believe it is OK to take away my First Amendment rights by claiming you speak for me? Go away, left wing dolt.

How has Rand gone against Israel? Why is it that people like you thinkIsrael comes before your own country?

“The Republican’s plan to avoid the sequester would give President Obama the authority to propose a rewrite to the 2013 budget and redistribute the expected cuts. That will also face a test vote this afternoon in the Senate.”  ABC

In one of his propaganda pressers Obama was asked about this bill that’s being considered in the Senate he said “I don’t have time to go over the budget line by line and cut unnecessary spending.” He also said that if such a bill ended on his desk he would “VETO the bill.

What the hell is this moron doing in the White House?  My guess is that he has another Vacation planned to play more golf.  This time with Charles Barkley or some other celebrity.  Maybe Jay Leno.  Jay has so much influence over the economy and budget cuts.  Ya right!

In fact it has been called Palestine for centuries. The west bank was occupied by Jordan 1967 and all Palestinians who remained in the area were made Citizens of Jordan.
Israel is in fact a Palestinian State.
Canada is a North American state.
And Germany is a state in Europe.
This is an ethnic struggle as well as racial struggle.

“Following what is known as the 1948 Palestinian exodus, the 700,000 Palestinians who fled or were driven from their homes were unable to return following the Lausanne Conference, 1949. In the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, Israel captured and incorporated a further 26% of the Mandate territory, Jordan captured the region today known as the West Bank and the Gaza Strip was captured by Egypt. In the course of the Six Day War in June 1967, Israel captured the rest of Mandate Palestine from Jordan and Egypt, and began a policy of Israeli settlements.”

You are in the glee of martyrdom. You would rather hand the country over to the Marxists than play smart politics. Politically Democrats are a lot smarter than Republicans and that is why we have a Marxist President and other Marxists picking up seats in the last election. Democrats have more political savvy and know how to manipulate people. Is it moral to hand the country over to Marxist because you do not realize politics is a game of chess and your playing checkers.

 You could start by donating your house back to the Indians.

I have to say if he runs for President, I will not vote for him no mater what.  He did not convince me at all.

I vote Republican, I voted for Mitt Romney, I am a Christian. I despise Marxism, Communism, and anything of a socialistic tendency. I just want to be clear on that.

If Republicans become morally bankrupt it doesn’t matter anyway, they will be just as bad as the Democrats that are in power. It’s the degenerate nature of our voters that has ruined us.

Rand Paul knows how to choose his battles.

Rand has earned my vote for 2016.

Glenn is no libertarian.  I want to know what Glenn’s score would be on this test. http://www.bcaplan.com/cgi-bin/purity.cgi

I like Rand Paul, and I was happy to hear that he was elected to the Senate in Kentucky. 

However, this interview sounded more like political posturing than standing on principle. 

Canada is a bigger “ally”? Really?!?!?!? 

Certainly, per land mass they are a larger NEIGHBOR….

…but Ally? 

Truly, thou doth jest. 

Canada does stuff for us. Does not spy on us, has no human rights violations record, trades extensively with us (including the vast majority of our oil). In other words its a mutually beneficial relationship.

The Israel palestinian conflict is a very modern conflict and didn’t start until Zionism really began to take off at the turn of the 20th century and the Zionists chose to go to Israel instead of Uganda. Obviously pushing this point further is pointless since you base your views on the theological instead of the empirical.
However, the idea that we tried to “help the indians to become civilized” is the dumbest thing I have ever read.

There were several hundred thousand Jews who were forced out of the region formerly known as Palestine (a Roman Empire regional designation for the area) as well.  The Israeli government has funded (for years) a program to return Palestinians to property that is rightfully theirs.  There are a lot of legal loopholes to traverse on this one, but many Palestinians have been returned to their original homestead in the land known as Israel, formerly Palestine.  

carge obama with treason since  we canot impe ach oama

i want to hea r more from  judge  Andrew na p aitano

Native Americans were also killed and forced into communities and lost land.  But certainly noone is fighting to get their land back with US money.  The same with Kurds and numerous other groups in the world, yet noone thinks an attack on those group is immediately an attack on a supporting country.

Even if everything you said was true, remember you are an American first and have your land and people to protect first.  America hasn’t won a war since WWII and it has depleted the treasury.  And there will be retaliation in the US, incl from Islamists that both parties allowed into this country.

At best, why don’t you let Jesus take care of it and you take care of your friends and family at home.

They are using rockets and not missiles and other weaponry that the Arab world has (funded by US taxpayers), hence they want trouble and not a solution. FYI – Hamas was supported and funded by Israel when it started – that is a fact.  The non-terrorist Palestinians want a 2 state solution and no fighting.  So don’t use terrorist actions against the common people.

Settlements is what gives to resentment that causes rockets to be fired off.

The problem repub/dem political parties have about Canada is that it is too peaceful and law abiding for them.  Repub/dem constantly want wars and conflicts – hence they choose the Middle East to partner with and fund all sides (except secular muslims and christians) with arms and money and intelligence.

I bet the crew on board the USS liberty would disagree with you.

 Ok.  I have had it with you people crying Israel first!  You my friend are ANTI-AMERICAN.  There…I said it.  If you love Israel so damn much – move there!  I happen to love this country or at least used to until it started going down the drain decades ago.  I don’t have a problem with Hagel because I think he is right.  Our foreign policy should be in the best interest of OUR country…that’s right OUR country the US.  Not Israel.  It makes me sick to my stomach to think of all the innocent people have been killed, the money that has been used to make the military industrial complex richer, the loss of our young men and women’s lives for what???????   I want these wars to end.  What has this country become? 

I am disappointed that we have such weak kneed politicians on all sides of the aisle who do not stand for the people, the Constitution, our founding documents and vote their values and not go along with anyone or anything even the President.

http://youtu.be/2L4egLu6mas

I couldn’t hear you over the 113 likes for my post. sorry

Why are you still talking to me?

I am extremely disappointed in Sen. Rand Paul’s weak-kneed vote to approve this anti-Semitic radical.  Sen. Paul needs a spinal transplant and seems to be in cahoots with the satanic forces currently in power.  But it all makes sense if you believe in the End Times.

I still can’t figure this son of Ron Paul.  He is still a party-kinda-guy. I agree with Glenn, that the GOP is dead as much as is the Democratic Party. Let’s start fresh with the Unaffiliated Party.com. No party, just people power as Thomas Jefferson intended it to be.

First, before the Moder State of Israel was created, the term “Palestinians” referred to the Jews living in the area, the Arabs living there refused to be called “Palestinians.” They decided to change this after the 1948 war. Also, before the British gained control of the region after WWI the Arabs were composed of different tribes that composed the areas of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Israel, and other places in the Middle East. It was the British and French that decided to create the different states not the Arabs. In fact, the Arabs didn’t want separate states they wanted an Arab caliphate over the entire Middle East.

If the PLO was really created to establish a state in the West Bank and Gaza, they would have fought the Jordanians and the Egyptians, yet the continued to ally with them and fight the Israelis. Their true goal wasn’t to establish a state only in the areas of the West Bank and Gaza but to get rid of the Israelis from the Middle East, so that the Arabs could establish their caliphate.

A “palestinian” state defined by the 1949 Armistice line would jeopardize Israel. Israel would be around 10 miles wide, something very easy to break through in an invasion and would cut Israel in half. Not to mention the fact that the West Bank is of higher elevation than most of Israel, Tel Aviv and other costal cities are visible from the West Bank, which means terrorists can fire missiles and rockets at these cities and at the airport. This area also has a large portion of the Israeli population so that adds to danger. These are some of the reasons why Israel doesn’t want to leave the West Bank, and the reason why the “palestinians” want it so much. The “palestinians” have been offered 97% of the West Bank, but they refused why? Because the Arabs don’t really want a state and because they want to have the area which is easiest to attack Israel. That is the only reason the “palestinians” are “interested” in “peace” is so that they can use the agreement to attack Israel from a weakened position. If the “palestinians” truly wanted their own state, they would take any agreement, especially one that offers them 97% of what they want.

Here’s a link about the myth of Settlements being an obstacle: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths3/MFsettlements.html

Here’s a linke about the peace process:
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths3/MFpeace.html#7

How can land be considered “palestinian” if they never had sovereignty over the area or they currently don’t live there? The difference with Canada, is that Canada has sovereignty over these areas.

On to the “palestinian” “peace” movements. What your link shows proves my exact point. The so called “peace” movements don’t rally for peace, rather they protest against Israel. If they were truly for peace, they would be calling for peace with Israel, not attack it.

I personally don’t understand the position that Rand Paul has taken, with regard to Hagel. He didn’t want him, but since it was decided that he was going to be the Defense Secretary, and that the Republicans could not muster enough votes to prevent this, then Paul goes ahead and votes for him. NO! Mr. Paul, what you do is take a stand, and not waiver, no matter what, even if your position is defeated. This is not the character that I would want, as a leader. I want someone who is firm in their position, and doesn’t take action, fearing future repercussions, should the Republican party regain the White House. This kind of action may very well serve to prevent the Republican party from ever reclaiming the White House. Maybe politicians have to play this way, and I have no clue how to do it myself. Not a clue! Maybe that is why I am not a politician. Having been appointed to board positions by politicians, however, I have been able to see how they operate, and the ones that always impress me the most, are those who will not compromise their convictions 

By peace movement I presumed, apparently falsely, that you meant the palestinians would push their cause using peaceful measures and civil disobedience (like the boycotts) that we consider so admirable in this country.
A palestinian, I imagine, would respond to your idea of a peace movement by saying they want to have peace not to surrender.

The 97% is an interesting point, to us that 97% sounds pretty good. But in the eyes of the Palestinians they’ve already given up 53% of their country. You would be very hard pressed to get me to say something positive about Arafat and his corrupt and incompetent friends. The Palestinian cause is much better off without him.

As for you first paragraph, there is no denying that nationalism with all of its trappings appeared in the middle as a result, or more a reaction, to european presence and the fall of the Ottoman empire. Previously there had been no need of it. The PLO was created so the Palestinians would have their own organization outside of the control of the Arab governments who they felt and were betrayed by. Mostly this is all semantics the main difference here appears to be you think that everything the Palestinians do is with the motive of destroying israel (which if someone invaded where you used to live is somewhat understandable. Not saying I agree, I can just see if the same thing happened to me i’d be pretty pissed off). As such the current unacceptable status quo must be maintained where palestinians are born and grow up in absolute poverty essentially under martial law of Israel creating a breeding ground for terrorists. Or if not maintained have the oppression worsened for the sake of security and thereby alienate the entire world.

  Its sad how people dont study or learn from history. So much hatred for the jews from just about all over the globe. I feel Obama well end up in the history books for many things,all bad.
   The drones and the patriot act and NDAA and more is all for a police state/agenda 21.

It is easy to explain– backroom deal.  Rand Paul is now Rancid.  A man with integrity could never vote for Hagel.  Rand gives deference to the president, in that he can choose who he wishes?  If that is true why do you “representatives” have to vote on them?  Add Rand to the long list of “conservative” traitors.

I would argue that the Deir Yassin incident was much worse (sort of like their Mi Lai), but after 65 years that’s two things. Israel has redeemed itself for the USS Liberty incident.

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Squirmy, and using political gamesmanship to explain a monstrously bad decision. Why wasn’t he on Glenn’s show asking him to have his audience lean on their senators? Why wasn’t he public with why he can’t support him? Man, I had hope for Rand. But just found out he is a mealy-mouthed wimp like the rest of the GOP. Maybe we could get some DNA from Liz Cheney, Sarah Palin, KT McFarland, and Michelle Malkin, and gene splice it into the GOP senators to counter whatever testosterone reducing chemicals is being put in their water in D.C. 

Hagel, Brennan, Lew? Seriously? The GOP is dead. 

I regret that I ever contributed to Rand Paul’s campaign….
I regret that he got in office.
He voted to put traitors in key offices.
He has failed the Constitution and the people.

He is DEAD to me just like our nation now.

Libertarians need to educate themselves on Islam and I would like to see one of them admit that we have allies before I vote for one.  They do not see any evil, or the morals. I’m a former Dem, who is still against having our troops everywhere, but Islam is a threat and I don’t have any problems having the US in South Korea.

In addition, I hate that they vote in deference to the Prez – we sent you there to stop him!  There’s always some more important mission in the future – I’m tired of that excuse.

Sorry I still don’t like Rand Pauls explanation on Hagel. If he is going to have the attitude, “if you can’t beat them…join them”. He is know better then anyone else in congress. He admits this guy is the wrong guy for the job of SOD. Yet, as hard as he fought agaist him,,,he caved. That is what everyone else does in politics, I thought he was different?

I would not have a problem with a two state solution, IF…. The palastinian goal was not to abliserate the Israeli’s. They say Isreal must be destroyed. Now who in there right mind would say, Okay you have a right to your own country? We as a country MUST NOT turn our back on our friend Israel. Israel gave them Gaza and see how that is working out for Israel, they are under constant bondardment from Palastinian’s. If you are under the misconception, If  we just gave them a country of their own and they would stop this crusade, we as a people are not recognizing the root of the problem. We are hated people. Israel and United State are the finfidal. We are the bad guy according to them, there will never be peace in that land. Oh we will have a 7 yr peace agreement at some point, which will come to an abrupt end all out war in the final days.May God Bless the United States of America and are friend Israel!!! 

To me our so call  con-artist President obama is  setting up U.S citizens and the free world for his pre made excuse to weasel out of our commitments to Gulf oil states  that are leaning and helpful to the Western world!  To give Iran and radical Muslims free rein in the Middle East he already pull a aircraft carrier from the gulf !!!!!!!   Plus I believe obama will go back on his word with our most trusted ally Israel in not allowing Iran to attain nuclear weapons !!  Our President obama doing this on purpose to run up our national debt so he have a  ready made con artists excuse  not to honor his promises to U.S citizens and our allies and to give his cohorts Muslims extremist free play in taking over western world nations !!  Our President obama excuse line will be that U.S is short of money now ,cannot fund any military actions anywhere in the world so he  can weasel out of honoring any U.S commitments or his campaign promises to U.S citizens .  Wake up people our President is not for the free western world which include us and in his first president  campaign he made the statement that he would side with the Muslims world over the Western free world I think he on his way to honor these words !!!   With obama recent appointments to his cabinets and high positions he will make double sure it will take place and have his puppets backing up his excuse and cover !!  Imagine this set up we cannot produce our own natural gas & oil because obama regulations and oil rich nations friendly  to west are be taking over by radical extremists Muslims , I call this a perfect created crisis for obama to not let it go to waste !!!  U.S be in complete downfall and in chaos and obama will make his move in for complete control with socialists Marxists third world dictator nanny police state with no freedoms or rights of our citizens !!  

Believe I heard on a news cast that our enemies of Iran and the radical Muslims world are in favor of obama recent appointments of Sec state,Sec Defense and C.I.A ??? Question is obama setting the stage to run for President of a Muslim rule world ?????????

Glenn you should not have let Rand Paul off the hook on Hagel I sincerely hope you will not support him any more I will not support him he is a blow hard talks a good game then lets us down! We already have seen what Hillary did and I am sure Hagel will do much more bad things, so my support is not going to happen. I have followed you for some years now so if you continue to support Rand Paul I will consider you are not going to make a stand against him.  Rubio is a much better choice.

I heard part of obama military cuts that U.S mightl down  it’s procurement  numbers of F35 joint stealth fighters (lighting) or stop production and development ??? Was this obama hidden agenda of raising our national debt for a excuse to cut our military expenditure for F35 ,lighting jets that we promise to sell to our allies of Great Britain,Canada, Israel etc !! To me if this is  true obama using a back door method to break his promise to our allies if we don’t purchase this jets plan numbers for our Marine corp,Navy,Air force,it will greatly increase the production cost to these nations for F35 jets ,because fewer jets produce & purchase !!!  It basic put these jets out the price range of our allies or only be able buy so few it won’t help in the defense of their country if this is true it just more obama double talk to our trusted allies setting them up to have a weaker defense !!  While obama banning the export of F22 Rapier and Russia ,China ,Iran trying to build their own stealth jets fighters or Iran trying to make purchase of these stealth jets from China and Russia ???? Hey obama it seem every move you make have a hidden agenda to make Israel weaker and be more at risk of attack from other countries and not be able to prevent a nuclear attack from Iran !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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 I thought Germany was a country. Maybe we need a definition of the term State.

Senator Paul reason to voted for Hagel isn’t convincing.  He voted for him because he felt the pressure from the other side period.  In other words, he also CAVED.

Because they are Racists. What we are seeing over there is like a kind of Extended whiplash from two world wars, and the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, Soviet Union the British Empire.
If you have time this will give you an overview don’t know how scholarly this is but its “close enough for Jazz”
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-war-of-the-world/

What a strange, illogical position. “I filibustered to get more information, we didn’t get it, so I voted to confirm because the President can appoint whomever he wishes unless they got money from a foreign government.”

Paul has no idea if Hagel got money from a foreign government, and there is significant evidence that he did. I am afraid that his logic fails here, and so does his explanation. I have no doubt that this vote was a political sop to his kook Libertarian followers, who actually like Hagel’s stupid statements and opposition to the Bush surge. 

Hagel’s testimony exposed a wildly reckless appointment, and an appointee who is not just dangerously unqualified for the post, but seems remarkably stupid and uninformed. Paul’s vote to confirm is without explanation.