Sara Carter describes the “lawless” borderland exposed in tonight’s For The Record

As Congress draws closer to a vote on immigration reform, the truth about the undeclared war on our border is exposed in For The Record: Borderless. While politicians in Washington insist people are only sneaking into the country in search of the American Dream, never before seen surveillance footage shows far too many violent criminals and potential terrorists are organizing and crossing the border in plain sight – putting America’s safety in jeopardy. Hear from the people who actually live along the border and learn from some of the foremost immigration experts when For The Record: Borderless premieres TONIGHT at 8:30pm ET only on TheBlaze. Not a subscriber? Start your 14-day free trial of TheBlaze TV HERE.

On radio this morning, Glenn spoke with TheBlaze’s chief Washington correspondent, Sara Carter about tonight’s For The Record. Sara describes the situation at our southern border as “lawless,” with ranchers forced to spend day in and day out watching, guarding, and protecting their property. From drug cartels who have set up transit routes straight through American ranches to the often violent trafficking of humans and contraband, those who live along the U.S./Mexico border live in constant fear. What are the implications for the nation as a whole?

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Read a full transcript of the interview below:

GLENN: Tonight, For The Record takes a look at the situation in our nation as borderless, and it truly is. And we are going to talk to ‑‑ we sent our cameras out, For The Record, to talk to the people, Americans on the border that have never been interviewed before. Not just by the press but not even by our own government. Nobody has taken the time to interview these people, and they are the people that have safe rooms in their house. They are the people that can’t say, “Get off my land.” They are the people that lock their children truly in closets when they see something coming across the border because they know there’s no help coming. Sara Carter is our senior Washington correspondent for TheBlaze and she is the woman who really broke and really helped free Compean and Ramos. She’s the one who really broke that something was going on and something was wrong with that story. She’s also the woman who brought us the story of the underground tunnels, and we have been so fortunate to be able to hire her and make her our senior Washington correspondent. She was instrumental in this episode of For The Record, which will air tonight, is it at 8:30pm? Is that right?

SARA: It’s at 8:30pm, that’s correct, Glenn.

GLENN: 8:30pm tonight.

SARA: It’s tonight at 8:30pm ET.

GLENN: Okay. So Sara, tell us ‑‑ tell a little bit about what we’re going to see tonight.

SARA: I think we’re going to show the American public, our viewers, the reality of living on a lawless borderland, a borderless land between Mexico and the United States. They are going to get it from the words of the ranchers themselves that have to spend day in and day out watching their property, from drug cartels that are utilizing their transit routes straight through American ranches, moving humans, moving contraband and the fear that these ranchers feel all the time living among those drug cartels and the dangers that it poses to the rest of the United States.

GLENN: The interesting thing here is there is ‑‑ these are people who have lived on the border their whole lives and some of them for generations.

SARA: Correct.

GLENN: And they have had these ranches for generations, they grew up, and they have always seen ‑‑ one of them said in one of the interviews that, you know, “I remember growing up and the guys would come to work in America and they would come across in the daytime and then they would go back across at night. And we would see them and we knew them and they weren’t bad people.”

SARA: That’s right.

GLENN: This is a whole different world.

SARA: It’s a totally different world now. And this is coming from, like you said, Glenn, generations of ranchers who have lived on the border. And I can tell you from interviewing them — both sheriffs who have lived on the border for a long period of time, who had their mothers and fathers live on the border — this is a whole different group of people crossing our border and this should scare everyone.

GLENN: I saw the ‑‑

SARA: This is not the same group.

GLENN: I saw the episode a couple of days ago before the final edits, and I will tell you that I ‑‑ it leaves you ‑‑ you know, the first thing I wrote back to the executive producer was, “Well, that just opens up a whole can of worms. There’s about 700 other shows that we have to do on this now,” and one of them is: It gave me the impression that there is coordination between the drug cartels and our side, the good guys supposedly. Do you feel that’s going on?

SARA: Oh, yeah. Glenn, I mean, look, we’ve seen it in the past. We’ve seen people, you know, working for Department of Homeland Security that have are being caught red‑handed, you know, being paid off by the drug cartels, allowing cartel members to move across our border. You’re talking about billions of dollars in the narcotics and contraband trade moving back and forth and that money purchases people. That money is their power, it’s their control. And you have these coyotes working for the drug cartels that are literally stationed along the border watching our own border patrol agents, watching our own law enforcement, and they look for anything, in this case they can do to get someone on their side to allow them to move their contraband across the border. If they don’t move it in the darkness of night, they move it straight across our highways during the day and right through our own law enforcement. And this is something that we need to look into in the future as well. But it goes beyond just the illegal immigrants who are crossing the border who are looking for jobs, this is about a new breed of people moving across the U.S. border. These are bad guys and they have bad intentions and they really do not care about the national security of the United States and they don’t care about what they cross into our country.

GLENN: Okay. One ‑‑

SARA: And we have to remember that.

GLENN: One last question here. I notice that some of the ranchers had their voice disguised and they were filmed in the shadows.

SARA: That ‑‑

GLENN: Others were shockingly open with who they were and I mean, why did ‑‑ why did some of them say, “Yeah, show me.” Was there no fear? Was it ‑‑

SARA: You know, no, I think there is fear. I think these are brave people. And you’re brave when you fear something but you do it anyways. Some of these ranchers decided that they wanted the American public to know that they meant business, that they weren’t just going to hide in the shadows, that they were going to tell them exactly what was going on and they were going to go fully on the record with it. And they are putting their lives in danger.

GLENN: Big time.

SARA: I mean, they are talking out against the most egregious and dangerous drug cartels in Mexico.

GLENN: And one of them is ‑‑

SARA: ‑‑ that utilize that area of the border to move their contraband. And they wanted the American people to know that there are some of us that are willing to stand up to this and they want the government to know, the federal government to know that it’s their job to protect the American public. And for those that went into the shadows, they have reasons to hide too. They have children. They live, you know, they’re new to the border or their ranches run right across areas where they have seen enormous amounts of violence and they’ve been threatened themselves. So for some there is a real reason to go in the shadows, and for others they feel like this is their time to speak out and get people to listen.

GLENN: Okay. Sara, thank you very much. Appreciate it. It’s For The Record tonight at 8:30pm ET. It follows Pursuit of the Truth where we are looking for new documentary filmmakers. It’s a new entertainment and information show all kind of wrapped up in one. Great show we produced together with Vince Vaughn and his people. And it’s a great show. Tonight, premiere night on TheBlaze TV.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/rigoberto.serrano.39 Pachy Serrano

    The facts are there to see folks, but sometimes conservatives only want to hear what they what to hear . . . Border crossings have been on a 5 year low (due to our sluggish economy) and the current administration have arrested more “illegals” than Clinton and Bush combine. We even have more patrol agents than ever before and deported more “illegals w/ criminal record” than any other admistration before. Even some Latinos are wondering if, in fact, Obama is on their side on immigration reform cause the numbers don’t lie. Is there crisis on the border? Sure. There have always been a crisis on our borders, especially on the South, but a large fence won’t fix that. If the military should be guarding our borders I am for that, but if we continue to be afraid of  our “brown” brothers and sistersm, we are the ones with the problem. We need immigration reform NOW!!

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    The borders are unsecured and thus we are vulnerable to an extreme not seen in years.

    The Democrats, RINO’s and the administration want to have more and more illegals enter the nation to expand their voting base with amnesty; to please their large business donors, bribers and cronies with new low-wage, non-healthcare covered workers; to ensure that the next blow to the middle class is delivered.

    Seal the borders, enforce the laws we have on the books and NO AMNESTY!!!

    Again, secure the borders, and work to disable the cartels completely – the same cartels that Obama willingly and knowingly armed in Fast and Furious to undermine our freedoms; and in arming enemies of the state he has committed treason yet again.

  • Anonymous

    The federal government is more than likely being paid off also.

  • Anonymous

     No not reform Yes.ENFORCEMENTouldnt you go where you areb given govt handouts in the form of food stamps,education. health care,housing ,etc.ect.Remove ALL of these freebies and they will self deport.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rigoberto.serrano.39 Pachy Serrano

    I dont know which “freebies” you talking about cause most “illegals” I know they work all day and pretty hard too. By the way, illegals can’t get food stamps, tax refunds, SSI, SSA, etc. in my State. The only thing they get a free health care cause my State figure it out that having illegals running around with illnesses is not good for anybody, so I don’t know where you live, but u are misinformed.  

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUrbEIqFl_Q Sam Fisher

    That is because you liberals screwed the economy up.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rigoberto.serrano.39 Pachy Serrano

    The Cartels have very little to do with illegal immigration my friend. The illegal drugs issue in America has almost eveything to do with supply and demand. Even by closing the border completely, which, by the way, will never happen for obvious reasons (economics/politics/cultural) the Cartels will still runing around trying to get drugs into our country and NO conservative, no Govt., no Americans will be able to stop that. Reagan tried and failed, Bush tried and failed, Clinton tried and failed, etc. Most illegals come here to do the work Americans won’t do and American companies are as guilty as our Govt. because they need cheap labor and You, me, GB, or any other conservative out there will have to undertand that once and for all. By the way, self-deportation won’t work eighter cause is a lousy idea with stupid consequences. I will support putting the military on the border and enhance technology, but fences and tough laws won’t do the trick. Our agricultural and services industries are addicted to these workers and keep our economy moving. If they leave we are doomed!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/tom.lister.14 Tom Lister

    I will tell you that here in Arizona along I-8 between Casa Grande and Gila Bend, every mile post marker is a load out point for drugs.  I worked this area as a law enforcement officer, there are scouts on almost every high point.  Often our look outs ran off cartel scouts when going up on an operation.  Nothing is changing.  Yes we have a lot of BP agents on the border….but the inconvenient truth is that there are little to no resources behind.  (like only having defensive linemen w/o any linebackers or defensive backs.)  Also if you don’t put resources in hot zones there are no recorded entries.  Just a few examples of the games this administration are playing.  But I will tell you……the flow continues, and yes the illegal crossers of today are not the illegals of my youth.

  • Anonymous

    according to the DHS’s Napolitano ,”our borders are as secure as they never been” ,sure a single file line of barbwire sure as hell does the trick and does detour anyone from crossing it

  • ihateidots

    I am really tired of hearing people say “illegals do jobs Americans just won’t do” that is just bull crud.  I did most of those jobs……….because I WORK.  What you have in America is a welfare system that American’s NO LONGER HAVE TO WORK.  If the welfare programs our wonderful gov’t provides would stop tomorrow………those Americans would finally have to get off their butts and get a job milking cows, working in slaughter plants, picking veggies, house cleaning, etc.  Don’t tell me illegals do jobs American’s don’t want to do, our gov’t is responsible for Americans no longer having to work to make ends meet.  Democrats AND Republicans………wasn’t that long ago that welfare was something people took as a last resort, now it ain’t no biggie……..to much welfare is bad for country and family.

  • ihateidots

    I am really tired of hearing people say “illegals do jobs Americans just won’t do” that is just bull crud.  I did most of those jobs……….because I WORK.  What you have in America is a welfare system that American’s NO LONGER HAVE TO WORK.  If the welfare programs our wonderful gov’t provides would stop tomorrow………those Americans would finally have to get off their butts and get a job milking cows, working in slaughter plants, picking veggies, house cleaning, etc.  Don’t tell me illegals do jobs American’s don’t want to do, our gov’t is responsible for Americans no longer having to work to make ends meet.  Democrats AND Republicans………wasn’t that long ago that welfare was something people took as a last resort, now it ain’t no biggie……..to much welfare is bad for country and family.

  • http://www.speakthewordnow.com Karen Rose

    Come on now, you have been taking about this and showing videos about this for a few years. What the hell is anyone doing about it? You can’t just keep talking about all this crap that is going on, here and all over the world. I will tell you what is happening, Jesus is coming and He is the ONLY One that can save you.

  • http://www.speakthewordnow.com Karen Rose

    Come on now, you have been taking about this and showing videos about this for a few years. What the hell is anyone doing about it? You can’t just keep talking about all this crap that is going on, here and all over the world. I will tell you what is happening, Jesus is coming and He is the ONLY One that can save you.

  • Anonymous

    you know, last night i was watching a documentary on 9/11 on the smithsonian channel and they said something interesting that caught my attention. when the attacks 1st happened and bush was on air force one,guiliani was trying to make sense out of the devastation going on in nyc,etc.,the commentator (martin sheen,i think,go figure) said ‘one of the first things to be ordered and carried out was the closing of the borders.” now i ask you,why could we do that then and not now? why can’t we effectively close the borders? answer: because our government doesn’t want to. what a farce! give ‘em more guns holder!

  • Anonymous

    I am sick & tired of fake ass conservatives like you. Self deportation DOES work. In fact it worked TWICE. Look up Operation Wet Back 1 & 2. Yes put troops on the border but we can put the fear of God in these pukes.

  • Anonymous

    I am sick & tired of fake ass conservatives like you. Self deportation DOES work. In fact it worked TWICE. Look up Operation Wet Back 1 & 2. Yes put troops on the border but we can put the fear of God in these pukes. You’re a leftwit in sheep’s clothing no more, no less.

  • Anonymous

    I am sick & tired of fake ass conservatives like you. Self deportation DOES work. In fact it worked TWICE. Look up Operation Wet Back 1 & 2. Yes put troops on the border but we can put the fear of God in these pukes. You’re a leftwit in sheep’s clothing no more, no less.

  • Anonymous

    I am sick & tired of fake ass conservatives like you. Self deportation DOES work. In fact it worked TWICE. Look up Operation Wet Back 1 & 2. Yes put troops on the border but we can put the fear of God in these pukes. You’re a leftwit in sheep’s clothing no more, no less.

  • mtman2

    All the while exempting from Oba-don’t-care  their donor cronies and friends; Not to forget of course themselves.
    Talk about a division between the rich and the poor, the mid income folks will be relegated to the beggar status at the discretion of the elites[THEM], for handouts. None of these treasonous examples can stand in the Light of true Americanism.

  • mtman2

    Working papers are a far cry from citizenship, allowing limited time, movement and rights.With no papers there should be no work and yes they will leave. This can only be accomplished by severe employer consequences. So far the Mexican economy is funded at over 30% U.S. $$ sent back, it should only be by legal status, papered temps. Working legally is different then legalized parasitism from the Lib/Progs, for votes through dependency. And at the working peoples expense, We are now at barely 50% of the population. Amnesty ain’t it for real Americans. Ask ANY legal immigrant, having gone through the process.

  • mtman2

    There are plenty of “brown brothers and sisters” that are Americans now, with many still to come, legally!

  • mtman2

    “illegals” now get everything Pachy, go back to Media-Matters, they love rehashed misinformation!

  • Anonymous

    Wrong Glenn, When you say that illegal aliens invader who are breaking into America and breaking our laws, but it’s ok if their doing so just to come and “work” is dead wrong. Their responsible for the destruction of the American middle class. They are responsible for holding down Americans wages and taking food off the plates of hard working American families. They are just as much of a problem as the ‘drug smugglers.’ 

  • Anonymous

    I wonder what environMENTALists would say if we took them for a tour along the border to see the thousands of tons of trash, shitty diapers, plastic tarps and bottles, etc. left behind by illegals.  The government should use ‘Super Fund’ money to clean it up.

  • Anonymous

    help these people