Rand Paul says GOP is united against Obamacare… for the most part

Senator Rand Paul made headlines last week when the Associated Press quoted him saying Obamacare probably couldn’t be defeated. He later clarified his remarks and reiterated that he would vote against a resolution funding the President’s healthcare legislation. Last night, Sen. Paul brought a good dose of experience to the Senate floor when he took part in fellow Sen. Ted Cruz’s marathon anti-Obamacare speech. This morning, Sen. Paul joined Glenn to talk about what the next steps are for the Republican Party.

Glenn, who introduced Sen. Paul as “the guy who began to give me some hope that there was a way out,” asked him to elaborate on what this moment means for the future of Obamacare and, more generally, the future of the Republican Party.

“No. I mean, whether we win or lose on this, and I don’t think we have the votes ultimately to win on this, but whether we win or lose on this, we will continue to stand on principle against ObamaCare,” Sen. Paul said. “Many state legislatures are going to have the same fight. The same fervor and the same excitement we’ve had in Washington this week will be in state capitals when they get the bill for the expansion of Medicaid. And all the states that are expanding Medicaid are going to have to either raise taxes or go further in debt, and this is going to be a problem. But it comes about over the next year or two.”

“The other thing that’s going to happen is people who had good insurance, this could be wealthy executives or it could be union workers who had good insurance, are going to be paying taxes on it,” he continued. “People are going to find out that their prices for their insurance is higher, part‑time workers are going to lose hours, and full‑time workers may well lose their job. There’s going to be a lot of bad things that come out of this. And so I think the fight goes on. But this is a milestone in that fight.”

There has a good deal of highly publicized in fighting within the Republican Party. But Sen. Paul explained that while Republicans in Washington might not agree on how to defeat Obamacare, they are united against the legislation.

“I think the caucus is unified against ObamaCare. I mean, I truly do. I think there are some differences on how we best should do it, and I think they are honest differences, to tell you the truth,” he explained. “I think it is a little bit unfair on some of the criticism. For example, you know, Senator Barrasso, the M.D., has fought ObamaCare like nobody else, puts out information every week on it, has always voted to defund it. It’s a little unfair really to say that if he’s unwilling to filibuster a bill that he actually agrees with that he’s opposed to ObamaCare. And so I think that really some of the tactics aren’t necessarily fair, and I think that our caucus is unified, our caucus is not unified on exactly how to do it.”

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GLENN: Let’s go to Senator Rand Paul, a guy who I will never forget as the guy who began to give me some hope that there was a way out. When he stood and he filibustered, must have been six months ago now, and now we’re seeing Ted Cruz and the rest of the good guys come up and stand. Not technically the same kind of filibuster as Rand did, and I don’t know how this is going to play with the American people, but I hope well.

Rand Paul is joining us from Washington, D.C. Senator, how are you, sir?

RAND PAUL: Very good, Glenn. Thanks for having me.

GLENN: So is ‑‑ what do you think is coming out of this? What do you think’s going to happen here

RAND PAUL: Everywhere I go people want us to stand on principle, they want us to oppose ObamaCare because they think it’s a disaster for the country. You know, I think it’s going to help precisely the people that it was intended to help, I think it’s going to actually hurt those people. And, you know, I’ve been saying if it’s such a great thing, why didn’t President Obama take it? If it’s such a great thing, why didn’t justice Roberts get it? You know, so I have one amendment, if they let us vote on amendments that will say all federal workers get it. If we’ve got to be stuck with this darn thing, they should all get it too.

GLENN: Is there any way to get that in afterwards? I mean, that has to be done.

RAND PAUL: In all likelihood there will be no amendments ‑‑ well, there will be one amendment. This is the way it works up here: It’s Harry Reid’s way or the highway. It’s President Obama’s way or the highway. They get 100% of ObamaCare or they are either going to shut down the government or ‑‑ they are not going to allow amendments. There’s going to be one amendment and that’s going to strip the language that defunds ObamaCare. So it is really, it’s funny and it amazes me that some of the mainstream media say, “Oh, Republicans are just being obstructionist trying to get their way.” Republicans are trying to get ‑‑ to be even part of the process is what we’re trying to do. Democrats are getting 100% of what they want, a bill written by them with no votes by Republicans.

GLENN: Is this the last ‑‑ is this the last stop?

RAND PAUL: No. I mean, whether we win or lose on this, and I don’t think we have the votes ultimately to win on this, but whether we win or lose on this, we will continue to stand on principle against ObamaCare. Many state legislatures are going to have the same fight. The same fervor and the same excitement we’ve had in Washington this week will be in state capitals when they get the bill for the expansion of Medicaid. And all the states that are expanding Medicaid are going to have to either raise taxes or go further in debt, and this is going to be a problem. But it comes about over the next year or two.

The other thing that’s going to happen is people who had good insurance, this could be wealthy executives or it could be union workers who had good insurance are going to be paying taxes on it. People are going to find out that their prices for their insurance is higher, part‑time workers are going to lose hours, and full‑time workers may well lose their job. There’s going to be a lot of bad things that come out of this and so I think the fight goes on. But this is a milestone in that fight.

GLENN: So there was a tweet yesterday from NBC News, and I want to read it to you and get your comment. NBC News has learned while Senator Rand Paul does not expect to speak publicly about his opposition to Cruz’s tactic, Paul sided with Mitch McConnell.

Is that true?

RAND PAUL: What I’ve said is what I’ll continue to say all along, that I won’t spend a penny on and I won’t vote for a penny for ObamaCare, and I’ll do anything I can to stop it.

I have also said that I don’t want to shut down the government, and I think shutting down the government is just a deadline that if we go through, even though it will be the president’s fault, it will be him wanting everything he wants if it happens, it’s probably not good for our cause overall to go through a shutdown and so I have some mixed feelings as to how this all turns out. I don’t want to fund ObamaCare, but I also think that for us to win and take over the Senate or the White House, it doesn’t ‑‑ it isn’t in our best interest to be perceived or accused of shutting down government.

GLENN: But you’re going to be accused ‑‑ I mean, look what you’re accused of.

RAND PAUL: I’ve been accused of my fair share of things.

GLENN: That’s right. If you’re going to be accused, we can’t live in a world where we’re afraid of what the accusations are going to be because it doesn’t matter. That’s, you know, that’s Mitch McConnell and John McCain kind of thinking that gets ‑‑ John McCain’s worse, but ‑‑

RAND PAUL: I guess my point is that if we’re willing to do it, what we have to do is be willing to go through the deadline. And the only way to leverage or our poker hand holds any value or power is if people will ‑‑ do believe we’ll go through the deadline. With the debt ceiling I’ve always been willing to go through the deadline. I’m willing to go a month, two months, three months, as long as it takes. And I think we could use that leverage to bring the Democrats to the negotiating table. With the actual disruption of spending, there is a way we could have done this but it would have required assistance from leadership and that would have been in January we should have started passing appropriations bill. See, if the defense appropriations bill were passed, we couldn’t have anybody up here saying, “Oh, you’re going to not pay the soldiers.” Right now soldiers wouldn’t get paid.

GLENN: See, this is the problem, Rand, and you know this. I mean, you know, you just know this: The leadership that we have as the GOP with Boehner and McConnell and everybody else, they are way ‑‑ they are a waste of a seat. They are not ‑‑ I don’t understand how they think they’re going to win. The reason why the Republicans have a 34% approval rating is not because of you guys but because America now says ‑‑ 68% of Americans say we’re on the wrong track. And what Mitch McConnell is giving them is the same track, different speed. They don’t want to be on this track anymore.

RAND PAUL: Well, I think the vast majority of people are with us on, you know, defunding ObamaCare, getting rid of stopping ObamaCare, and the fight is worth having. This is the time to have the fight and so I’m going to keep doing what I can to stoke the flame, stoke the fire and to say, you know, this is bad, that coercion is bad, that mandates are bad, that the hundreds of mandates that run throughout ObamaCare are not consistent with our American ideals, not consistent with the American concept of freedom of choice, of volunteerism. And I think we should have that debate and put it in stark terms because the bottom line is there will be one or two choices on these exchanges, and right now you have hundreds of choices. If I want to choose a high deductible plan and a health savings account, I can do it. That will not be offered to me under these exchanges.

GLENN: Anything you’re comfortable about sharing about the whip process going on behind closed doors? Yesterday there was a Breitbart report out that Mitch McConnell and John Cornyn were looking for votes against Cruz? I mean, in effect is the GOP trying to make sure that the funding goes through?

RAND PAUL: No, I think the caucus is unified against ObamaCare. I mean, I truly do. I think there are some differences on how we best should do it, and I think they are honest differences, to tell you the truth. But I think the caucus ‑‑ and while I think it is a little bit unfair on some of the criticism. For example, you know, Senator Barrasso, the MD, has fought ObamaCare like nobody else, puts out information every week on it, has always voted to defund it. It’s a little unfair really to say that if he’s unwilling to filibuster a bill that he actually agrees with that he’s opposed to ObamaCare and so I think that really some of the tactics aren’t necessarily fair, and I think that our caucus is unified, our caucus is not unified on exactly how to do it.

GLENN: Chris Wallace said on Fox News Sunday that the Republicans were taking Cruz out and then they went to Karl Rove, of all people, to explain why. You know, I saw Cruz talk about this, and I thought like a statesman last night, saying, you know, the older guys, they don’t know the young freshmen. They just don’t know, they don’t really care ‑‑ and I’m making it worse than what he did. But they don’t know us and, you know, the freshmen have not turned on each other. It is the older guys turning on the new guys. Who’s turning on ‑‑ what is this? What’s going on? Because Rove said yesterday, “Well, it’s just ‑‑ on Sunday. He said, “Well, that’s just because Cruz didn’t go to the older guys, didn’t go in to the caucus and tell them what he was going to do and so we had to find out on our own.” Is that kind of pettiness true?

RAND PAUL: I would say that there are always growing pains and, you know, we’re in the minority. So we have to figure out how to grow. And in growing pains, there’s always a struggle on the best way forward, the best way to grow the movement. Some of it is standing on principle. It’s standing and not giving up and saying “We are opposed to ObamaCare and we’ll do anything we can to stop it.” But some of it’s also on some things that I think that trying ‑‑ that I’m trying to do which is beyond our party base. ObamaCare unites our party base but doesn’t make our party necessarily bigger.

I’m also talking about some liberty issues, some issues of fairness and justice within criminal justice system, within, you know, how we approach our foreign policy that I think will broaden our base and get us to a bigger party. So I think it’s a combination of all those things.

But there’s always going to be internal disagreement on the tactics of exactly how you do it. But other than that, I would say that really there’s more unity than disunity in the sense of what our position is on ObamaCare. And it’s probably unfair really to characterize anybody in our caucus as not being absolutely 100% committed to defunding ObamaCare.

GLENN: The story out today about John Kerry signing the ‑‑ he says he’s going to sign the UN arms treaty that’s being negotiated now. Fox is telling us nothing to worry about. I couldn’t disagree with that more strongly.

RAND PAUL: Yeah, I’m not a big fan of signing a UN treaty that gives up on the Second Amendment or allows them to infringe on the Second Amendment. There should be no international treaties that ever infringe on our constitutional rights or our sovereignty.

GLENN: But they are saying that this one is just going to be for international, it won’t infringe on that at all.

RAND PAUL: Yeah, that’s ‑‑ you know, they can talk a good line and say it’s not going to do this, it’s not going to do that. I can tell you that that’s one of these other things that we will stand on principle and I will be right there at the forefront saying I will get 34 senators, and I can stop that because Senate treaties take 67 votes. So 34 votes to defeat them. So far we’ve defeated every one of these treaties that have come forward from the United Nations because Americans don’t want us to give up our sovereignty to an international body full of two‑bit tin‑horn dictators who often, and for the most part, hate America.

GLENN: How could we possibly sign a UN arms treaty that stops people from giving arms to the, you know, to the bad guys when the president has to waive himself our own laws to stop us from giving weapons to Al‑Qaeda?

RAND PAUL: Yeah, it’s kind of interesting that, yeah, we’re going to sign a treaty banning weapons transfers while exempting ourselves to send weapons to Syrian Islamic radical elements that may well hate America as much as they hate Assad.

GLENN: I don’t know if you saw the picture we released yesterday on TheBlaze, but in a USA Aid tent or U.S. Aid tent, we have a known Al‑Qaeda terrorist standing next to a guy with a rocket launcher, in our tent in Syria.

RAND PAUL: The only thing that could be better is if you had an American senator over there having their picture taken with them. Yeah.

STU: Wow.

RAND PAUL: You know, the thing is this is the ridiculous nature of people saying, “Oh, we’re giving the weapons only to the vetted moderate resistance.” It’s like, if you don’t speak Arabic, you can’t even pretend to think you’re even talking to the moderate vetted rebels. But the thing is even if you do speak Arabic, how are you going to know who’s lying to you and who’s not lying to ya? They’re all going to have made‑up names. Do you think they’re carrying around, you know, a birth certificate that you can prove who they are?

GLENN: I’ve got news for ya: I don’t even know who the good guys are in the United States of America and they speak English. I mean, I don’t even know ‑‑ I don’t know if you saw the school board meeting in Baltimore, Maryland, where the dad was escorted out for standing up and asking a question, and he was charged with second degree assault on a police officer. It’s all on tape. There was no assault. The officer was completely in the wrong. They charged him. They decided to drop the charges. Even though they say that they were totally justified but it wouldn’t help justice if they pressed it.

RAND PAUL: You know what, Glenn? You know what this reminds me of? When I was detained by the TSA, they put out a report saying I was resisting arrest or whatever. So then somebody must have been my friend at the airport and they put out the surveillance footage of me when I was in the detention cubicle. I’m sitting there for, like, hours on end just kind of bored to death looking at my phone. I never had words with anybody. But they put out a press release saying that I was irate and that I was yelling and screaming. I never did any of that. I sat quietly and bored to death on my phone trying to tell people I was in captivity. But I wasn’t talking to anybody. So, you know, it ‑‑

But with regard to, you know, the Islamic rebels, we really have to say to ourselves, are we not completely insane to be giving surface‑to‑air missiles to guys who are using machetes to cut people’s heads off?

GLENN: Yeah, we are completely insane unfortunately. Thank you so much, Senator. I appreciate it, and thanks for your tough stand and keep standing, and we wish you all the best of luck today. The vote coming today? Do you know?

RAND PAUL: Yes. Well, there will be at least one vote today around noon, but it probably is going to be the motion to proceed. Then there may be another filibuster. This may be the beginning. There may be another 30 hours. I don’t know if anybody’s got the same stamina as Ted Cruz. So we’ll see if anybody else can stand for 30 hours. But we’ve got another 30 hours after this maybe.

GLENN: You’ve got time to get a nap in.

RAND PAUL: That’s right. I’ve got ‑‑ my voice is already a little raspy and I wasn’t up all night.

GLENN: Thanks so much, Senator. I appreciate it.

RAND PAUL: Thanks, Glenn.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    Mostly united against Obamacare?

    I am having a hard time believing that at this particular moment. 

    The Republican party has become divided into two encampments – the RINO’s and the new generation of conservatives (non-RINO) coming up in the ranks. The RINO’s will allow Obamacare to come to pass just to use it against Cruz and the other conservatives who refuse to tow the line and will do the will of the people they represent.

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    No matter what, Obamacare is a tsunami and the earthquake coming at once; the end-game will be a complete collapse of our economy exactly as the left wants.

  • Anonymous

    To force or not to force a shut down: that’s the question. 

    The abjectly ignorant masses will blame the Republican party for any governmental shutdown. So, from a tactical standpoint, Rand is correct; but, from a principled standpoint, Cruz is correct.

    This is what shall happen over the next 30 days: There shall be a big show put on for the ignorant masses. After the show, the government will be funded by a continuing resolution. About 15 days later, the next big show will be produced when Congress debates raising the national debt ceiling.

    One show has started and one is coming; they are only shows.  Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Mike Lee and all the other Libertarians who have infiltrated the GOP know that there is only one way that the government will be shut down for any length of time: that’s when America experiences a total, economic collapse.

    Cruz, Paul, Lee and the others are currently posturing for the next election.

    All the smart people know that the show will be over and the bloodbath begins when America totally collapses from its massive debt.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUrbEIqFl_Q Sam Fisher

    Obamacare must die in order for the economy to rake off.

  • http://www.absoluteintensity.com dennis reilly

    they all would work feverishly if the politicians were the first to lose their pay with a gov’t shutdown but that will never happen with these greedy cowards including Paul

  • http://AskHuldah.blogspot.com/ Maidservant Huldah

    WASTED BREATH

    As we watch a group of brave men take a stand upon the Senate floor for
    hours that seem to have no end, it calls into question as to whether these
    gentlemen are essentially “wasting their breath?” Most certainly there are
    Americans on both sides of the fence that would agree to that being the case.

    However, Jesus tells a parable that is rather fitting for the situation we saw
    displayed.

    Luke 18:1-5 Now He was telling them a parable to show that at all times they
    ought to pray and not to lose heart, saying, “In a certain city there was
    a judge who did not fear God and did not respect man. “There was a widow
    in that city, and she kept coming to him, saying, ‘Give me legal protection
    from my opponent.’ “For a while he was unwilling; but afterward he said to
    himself, ‘Even though I do not fear God nor respect man, yet because this widow
    bothers me, I will give her legal protection, otherwise by continually coming
    she will wear me out.’”

    This parable displays one of the greatest acts of a “peaceful
    war.” Through her persistence, the widow gave the judge no peace until she
    received what she knew she needed, and what she knew was just. Through the
    display in the senate, we saw persistence for what is right and just.

    It is interesting that Jesus pointed out more than once that the judge was
    not a man that feared God, yet he surrendered due to the fact that he was the
    weaker in the battle by his own acknowledgement.

    Luke 18:6-8 And the Lord said, “Hear what the unrighteous judge said;
    now, will not God bring about justice for His elect who cry to Him day and
    night, and will He delay long over them? I tell you that He will bring about
    justice for them quickly. However, when the Son of Man comes, will He find
    faith on the earth?”

    In this passage, the unrighteous judge recognizes God, and that He is just.
    The judge is also well aware that the elect cry out to the Lord day and night.
    For Him to know this, the elect had to have made it clear to all, who they
    were, and to whom they belonged. This judge knew that through their PUBLIC
    prayers, God would act swiftly on their behalf. These believers did not fear
    praying out in the open and making their request known to God for all eyes
    to see.

    As we watch the courage displayed on Capitol Hill, perhaps we Christians
    need to consider carefully just what it is going to take to see victory. We
    applaud the men who have stood for us so long, but is more required for GOD to
    turn His face back to us and bring about His justice quickly?

    Friends, we used to be known as a Christian nation. We used to pray in the
    public square, sending forth the message who we were, and to whom we belonged.
    While it is important for us to pray privately, it is now my firm belief that
    God is waiting on us to once again meet Him in the public square and show the
    unrighteous who our God really is. Like our good senators, let not our words be
    a mere wasting of breath.

    When the Son of Man comes, will He find that kind of faith on the earth? 

    http://askhuldah.blogspot.com/2013/09/marching-orders.html

  • http://suzeraining.wordpress.com/ suz

    can’t believe glenn had to school rand paul on ‘perception.’ the fact that paul gives a flyin’ hoot about perception bothers me.

  • Anonymous

    There is a way that Obama-Scare could be declared “Null & Void”-!  It’s centered on the
    president himself-!  It occurs during the Obama Campaign at a Golden, Colo. Political Rally,
    where the president declared–”His mother was ‘Not Married’ at the time of his Birth”-!  (This
    supports the WND article about 10 months ago-!)  This news prior to the 2012 Election–gets
    a Big Problem–”His Surname”-!  Obama Sr. made sure this president was a “Illegitimate-Son”
    by remaining married to his 1st Wife, “Kezia” back in Kenya, as he ‘Signed’ a ‘worthless
    marriage-license’ on Feb 2, 1961 to 17 yr-old naive Ann Dunham-!  ( “Bigamy is Forbidden by
    Law” in the USA-! )  If “Fraud” or “Misrepresentations” is present at the ‘Signing’ of any “Legal
    License” or “Legal Document”–it renders the “Legal Document”–”Null & Void”–at the time,
    it’s signed–(Not when the “Fraud’s” discovered-!  Thus Ann Dunham remains ‘unmarried’ when
    her “Illegal-Son” is Born Aug 4, 1961—- 
        In a “Legal Marriage” the Wife is “Legally-Given” her Husband’s Surname–to create a living
    “Legal-Partnership” & their “Legal Children”–who are born, during that “Partnership”–receive &
    ‘Inherit’ their Father’s Surname-!  (“Illegal Children” DO NOT-! )  Because of Obama Sr’s “Fraud”
    –Ann Dunham is Never “Legally-Given” that Obama Surname–& there’s no “Legal-Partnership”
    –Thus, Ann’s Not “Mrs Obama” & She has no “Legal Husband” & She ‘HAS’ no “Legal-Son”–
    who is “Legally-Named”–Obama-!  Her “Illegal-Son” has a “1st Title-Right to his mother’s
    maiden-name–”Dunham”-!  (Since he is ‘her baby’-!)  Therefore–his ‘Real’ “Legal-Name” is–
    “Barack Hussein Dunham”–not Obama-!  But he’s won 2 Elections as senator & as president–
    by using the “Wrong Legal-Name” & He’s signed “Bills of Congress” & 2 “Supreme-Court
    Appointments” by using that same “Wrong Legal-Surname”–which “Voids” them ALL-!  ( It’s
    a “Criminal Offense of Fraud” to “Misrepresent Yourself” on any “Legal Documents”-!  It’s
    Wrong to use a ‘Stolen-Name’–It’s “ID Thief” since that name also has a “Copy-Right Owner”-!
             ———————————————————————————————–
      ( I’M Not a “BIRTHER”-! )  I Believe ( He was born in Hawaii–because I don’t believe that two
    ‘cash-strapped’ college students can afford 2 Airplane tickets one/half round the world & back!)
    I worked to go thru college–& I enrolled & couldn’t even pay for a trip out of my state-!  “Duped”
    by Obama Sr’s Lies–Ann thinks she’s married & makes a “Mistake” on her “Illegal-Son’s”
    Certificate of Birth–She “Signs it” & “Voids IT”-!  ‘Look at the Certificate’ on the Internet–It’s
    Signed–”Stanley Ann Dunham Obama”-!    —————————————————————-
       She signed it as being a ‘married woman’ to Obama Sr. & She WAS NOT-!  She “Misrepresents Herself” as ‘being married’ & this “Misrepresentation”–”Voids” his Birth
    Certificate-!  So–if her Signature was “Real or Forged”–it won’t change the Result’–Since
    She wasn’t “Legally Married” in the First Place-!  ( Obama Sr’s “Fraud” Over-Powers All-! )
    The ‘Main Thing’ is Ann’s “Illegal-Son” obtained a Surname–( He was NEVER “Legally-Given”)-!
    (  And using that “Wrong Legal-Name”–”Voids” anything else that He “Signs” as “Legal-
    Documents”-! )  I Hope that You’ll understand–what we’re looking at-!  It won’t matter now
    where the president was born-!  He won his Elections under the “Wrong Legal-Surname”-!
    (“For those Voters, who ‘voted’ for (a) “Barack Obama in the 2008 & 2012 Elections–Be
    Surprised–You ‘Could have also ‘Voted for a (non-existent ) “Mickey Mouse”–!  Indeed, the
    example of (‘non-existent’) Mickey Mouse–who got ’50 Votes’ in the Election–also is shadowed
    by a “Second’ (‘non-existent’) “Barack Obama”–who doesn’t “Legally-Exist” by existing law-!
    “Voters” who Voted for a “Legally-Named”–”Barack Obama”–You Voted for a man–with that
    “Legal-Name”–who died in Kenya in 1982–Since there was NOT another man who had been
    “Legally-Named”–”Barack Obama”–anywhere else int the USA–during those Elections-!  There
    were “millions of votes” for the mand–who died in Kenya & at least “50 Votes” for “Mickey-
    Mouse”–which they had to toss–since County Clerks couldn’t find a “Human” with “Hugh
    Mouse-Ears” & a “Long-thin Tail”-!  (But it’s “Strange”–we couldn’t find ‘One-Vote’ for “Barack
    Dunham”-!  (The President Refused to “Vote” for himself-! )  “Ignorance of the Law”–is No
    Excuse-!  ( Judges have repeated This–Time & Again-! )  (Our U.S. “Fraud-Laws” have NEVER
    been ‘Repealed’-! )  Since this president ‘Signed’–ObamaCare–it’s already rendered “Void”-!

  • TheMaskedMarauder

    The enemy is the old line republicans who have been quite vocal in their criticism of Cruz and others in the modern republican movement, and they have also been complicit with the democrats in their corruption of our government – instead of government by and for the people, they have established government by elitist politicians against the people. This is caused by people re-electing these power mad people because they lack the knowledge of who they are really voting for. They get to DC and are co-opted by the dark side, and the longer they stay the worse they are corrupted by the power and money. There is a big problem with this incumbency – too many get reelected without producing any good result for the people. They cater to the monied special interests, and ignore the people who elected them. 

    We have to purge them from time to time. This is why our government is so disconnected from taking care of the people. The liar in chief tells us he cut taxes, yet everywhere taxes have been rising, and we are supposed to buy into his lies because he is a supposedly gifted orator. When the people realize that reelecting these people is a ticket to failure, then we may stand a chance. Until we the people impose term limits at the ballot box, nothing is going to change.

    Remember when candidate Obama promised to rid Washington of lobbyists? Nothing has happened in that regard, nor will it. The special interests will keep financing these power mad fools and we will continue to see a decline in our country in every category. We need to educate our fellow conservatives to the fact that unless the candidate produced results for the constituents they don’t deserve to be re-elected. 

    Far too many of us failed to vote in the last election and the result sits in the White House. We need to organize and mobilize like the liberals – and have the courage and intelligence to know when ineffective politicians should be given the shoe.

  • Anonymous

    You are over reacting because you listen to ass fucker con men on the radio instead of thinking of yourself. By putting your faith in cocksuckers like Ted Cruz and lube squirts like Rick Santorum, you lose. Just FYI

  • Anonymous

     Wow, when people express themselves the way randypants express himself, I don’t know why anyone wouldn’t listen to him, he speaks fluent nasty and his efforts to condemn someone with remarks that are absurd, well shish, I will have to choose to go down a level in consciousness to understand which I don’t choose to do.
    Obamacare is not fair to the majority of the people, it should be stopped.

  • Anonymous

     It is never a waste of time to not try to do something good. If people choose to do nothing, that implies agreement.

  • Igor Shafarevich

    To freedom’s detriment, the false definition of liberty, as the power of centralized government to do specific things, has become widely accepted within self-proclaimed progressive circles.

  • Anonymous

    Can any of you offer anything constructive?

  • Anonymous

    Can any lefttatd express express themselves now a days without an allusion to homosexuality or are you all afraid of being easily turned?