Ann Coulter disagrees with Glenn on creating a third party: “This is how nations die, Glenn Beck!”

On radio this morning, Glenn was joined in-studio by conservative author Ann Coulter to discuss her new book, Never Trust a Liberal Over 3, Especially a Republican, and the current state of Washington D.C. politics. From creating a third party to defunding the GOP, defeating Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) to raising the debt ceiling, Glenn and Ann had a lively hour-long debate about the future of the Republican Party.

“Never Trust a Liberal Over 3 – and my favorite part of the title – especially a Republican, that is the name of the new book by Ann Coulter, who is in our New York studios and it is always good to see you, Ann, always,” Glenn said. “Okay. This is the first book that Ann has done that has zero, count them, zero mainstream media interviews. Somehow or another Ann has found herself on the blacklist, where they are all fascists. They gang up and say that opinion is no longer valid and they’ll just block you out.”

“Right. And particularly, I mean, I was thinking about it last night. But this includes – not that I’m somebody now, but in terms of the media world and the publishing world, an absolute nobody. My first book came out of nowhere, High Crimes and Misdemeanors. I had lots of mainstream media interviews then,” Ann explained. “But I was thinking about other smart conservatives… but I don’t see you a lot on mainstream media interviews. Whatever happened to Michael Fumento? No, he’s very smart. He’s very articulate. Don’t put him on. Let’s find Alex Jones. And I don’t want to mention them, but some of our less articulate Republicans in the House and Senate. Oh, well, one I will mention: Why is John McCain like the standard bearer for the Republican Party?”

As of late, Glenn has been quite insistent that it is time to take a stand against the Republican establishment like Senators Lindsey Graham (R-SC), John McCain (R-AZ), and Mitch McConnell by defunding the GOP. He has even suggested the possibility of a third party movement – a suggestion Ann vehemently disagreed with. While she shares Glenn frustrations with the more progressive element of the party, she believes that victory must remain the common goal of all Republicans.

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“So I’m afraid to even ask this question,” Glenn said. “But there’s no shot that you are for a third party?”

“Ahhhh! This is how nations die, Glenn Beck,” Ann said. “We’re going to lose. All that matters is winning, winning, winning.”

While Glenn pointed to Charles Sumner and the demise of the Whig Party as examples of successful third party movements, Ann was not convinced the situation is dire enough for such drastic measures.

“No, no, no, it’s not that bad. We have Ted Cruz and we have Mike Lee. We need more of them,” Ann said. “And I would adhere, my friend, Pat Caddell was the main proponent of a third party and I have accused him of still pushing, you know, his democratic policies. He did get that menace Jimmy Carter elected. This is his sneaky way of undermining the Republican Party. ‘Yeah, why don’t you guys run a third party?’ No, I want a third party taking votes from the Democrats. That’s what you should be working on.”

When it comes to the debt ceiling debate currently raging in D.C., Ann and Glenn both agreed that raising the debt ceiling does not necessarily mean the Republicans have lost.

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“We don’t give up fighting against Obamacare and the government shutdown by raising the debt ceiling,” Ann said. “But I think it’s worth saying we could raise the debt ceiling because, again, we only have one half of one branch of government. But that doesn’t end the fight over Obamacare. That still doesn’t give us a budget. We’re right back where we were on the government shutdown.”

“I’m totally fine if you want to raise the debt ceiling,” Glenn agreed.

While Glenn and Ann disagreed about how much the Republicans actually gain from the grand bargain currently being worked out between Sen. McConnell and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (R-NV), Ann re-iterated that any type of delay to the debt ceiling, is a victory for Republicans.

“Well, we got it put off for a couple of months. [That’s] time to organize. And I would also add [Sen. McConnell] may be counting on the House rejecting it, but this shows the reasonableness of Republicans,” Ann said. “I think it was brilliant that the Republicans in the House – thank you, Ted Cruz, for leading them, by the way – began with defund the entire government except for defunding Obamacare. And then they step back: Now we will defund the entire government including Obamacare that we want to put off for a year. And now their final offer, and the reason the government is shut down, is fund the entire government, including Obamacare but Congress has to live under it.”

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  • Anonymous

    Start a third party and see that one infiltrated too.

    Besides, wasn’t the Tea Party supposed to be a third party? Given up on it now that it’s been turned into a punch line?

    If you couldn’t keep infiltrators out of the GOP…then what makes you think you can keep them out of any new party?

    And if you couldn’t keep the Tea Party alive–with it’s billion dollar backers and early success–than what makes you think you can keep a third party alive?

    But, hey, go for it. Have a third party candidate ready for 2016… and watch the vote get split just as it did when Perot ensured Bill Clinton easy wins. Make it easier for his wife this time around. LOL

  • Anonymous

    ““I’m totally fine if you want to raise the debt ceiling,” Glenn agreed”

    You’d better be.

  • jo blo

    Couple of points:

    1. I think Ann Coulter might really be a man.

    2. I could care less what she says after she shilled for Kristie Kreme, whose bromance with Obama helped seal Mitt’s loss.

    3. Our punditry is going to learn a hard lesson in coming years: we average conservatives are starting to realize that everything we’ve been told by GOP leadership, conservative talk show hosts (Beck, Levin and sometimes Rush and Hannity being exceptions) is wrong, and we’re going to quit listening to their ‘step in line with the GOP establishment’ rhetoric.

    4. If the GOP caves on Obamacare, amnesty or any more of Obama’s agenda, they will be to blame for any 3rd party.

  • jo blo

    What do you mean by that?

    edit: never mind. I looked through your comments, and I see you’re a lib.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t trust Coulter. She means well, I’m sure but her support of Christie made no sense. But here’s the good news: At least she showed up for Glenn’s progam with some clothes on.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91J4PAda3EA Sam Fisher

    I hate to disagree with Ann because the GOP was a third party and we ended slavery but let’s try to fix this one before we take that on.

  • Anonymous

    No third party, huh. Hmm, this from a woman who swooned all over Chris Christie. I’ll admit I bought more than a few books she authored, but she lost all credibility with me when she went all in for this RINO. I still like her comic relief though.

  • Anonymous

    Drag queens love to impersonate famous women. There should be a drag queen Ann Coulter. She could call herself Ann Couture.

    Most of you shop at Wal-Mart, so let me explain:
    “Couture” means high fashion, or “fancy, dress-up clothes,” as you would call it.
    You undoubtably have a t-shirt with a deer on it, right? Or a t-shirt with a shrieking eagle clutching a rifle…

    Well, take that same shirt and make it out of better material, add some frills around the collar and BAM! Redneck couture!

    You can also do Redneck sushi.
    Real sushi is just raw tuna or salmon on a little piece of balled up rice, with a touch of wasabi sauce added.

    Well, you take raw catfish or crappie, slap it on some balled up grits, add a dab of French’s yellow mustard, and BAM! Redneck sushi!

  • Anonymous

    That is exactly the position the Whigs took, and we know how that turned out.

  • Vince Fox

    Cruz, Lee, Paul and their like are scaring the crap out of not only Democrats, but the Old Guard Republicans. Why? Because they are not just supported by the Tea Party faction of the GOP, but by Libertarians, Constitutionalist, and all the disenfranchised republicans that have set out the last two elections because they couldn’t stomach to vote for McCain or Romney. Obama has brought Hope and Change, but it’s in regards to retaking the GOP.

  • Anonymous

    I want NO party – elect the best person based on solid credentials and proven record of working for the betterment of America — creating now a third partynow, Glenn, as much as I think both Dems and most Repubs don’t deserve to be re-elected, will ensure a Dems win for sure.

  • 2War Abn Vet

    Instead of a third party, how about an “instead” party, And let the Republican Party go the way of the Federalists, the Whigs, and the Know Nothings? The last of these is most appropriate when speaking of the current Republican Party anyway.

  • Anonymous

    Great example of a lib dealing with ideas instead of just making ad hominem attacks.

  • Anonymous

    Keeping the status quo will, ummmmmm, will ……. “ensure a Dems win for sure.”

  • Anonymous

    The Tea Party was not intended to be a third party, and when liberals give conservatives advice on what to do, my recommendation is to do the opposite. No time to address all the lies in your post.

  • bull57

    I know I’m naive, but the president is the only national office and I could see possible money issues, but Senators and congressmen are still only states seats. They could be independents then caucus in DC as conservatives!

  • Dean McGinty Sands

    Woodrow Wilson and Bill Clinton are both firm believers that a 3 party system works.

  • Guest

    “Ahhhh! This is how nations die, Glenn Beck,” Ann said.

    Examples? Oh, there are none. Fact-free Coulter spewing hateful bile again.

    It is how Parties die though, and if the Republicans go the way of the Tea Party, they will follow the Whigs into the dustbin of history.

  • Anonymous

    I agree, there are many risks and the possibility of losing EVERYTHING by a third party division . But what sense does it make to stick with the RINOs? They are simply handing the country over to the Left by bending over repeatedly and letting them have their deviant ways with them. In the bigger picture, the RINOs ARE nothing more than Democrats in sheep’s clothing! They sure as hell aren’t Conservatives! I can’t imagine Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, John Adams or Ben Franklin taking a RINO’s stance. The RINOs ride the fence in hopes of someday, by chance, stumbling upon an enlightened moment, but never will because they value the false security of their personal wealth and professional political status more than they love the country they endlessly pontificate about. They are charlatans. The aforementioned Founding Fathers risked the distinct possibility of dangling from a rope by giving us the ‘great experiment’. Pardon my French, but where are the ‘stones’ in the GOP? For the love of ALL that’s Holy, I’d rather go down swinging and go out in a no holds barred, winner take all, knock down, drag out fight than to simply roll over and capitulate out of fear of losing material things. Would ANY of us expect a RINO to profess before a swaying noose that he/she regretted having only one life to give for this country? Seriously, would anybody? Our military men and women live that sentiment on a daily basis, 24/7/365. At least Cruz and Paul had the guts to filibuster and face the ridicule of the limp wristed, mainstream media and the social network lapdogs. Where are the ‘stones’ in the GOP? Seriously, where are they? They exchanged them for 30 pieces of silver and Judas Iscariot could never pass the muster to be a Founding Father.

  • Anonymous

    As long as the Republican party is salvageable, a third party is a stupid idea.

  • Anonymous

    You would have a point if she were still swooning over Christie. But since she isn’t, what you are actually demanding is something you yourself will never achieve: Perfect judgement in all things forever.

  • Eko

    So, Ann Coulter believes in sacrificing principle in order to “win”. Win what Ann? We help the “GOP” win and then believe they’ll do right by the Constitution & The People by honoring the oath’s they take? Sorry Ann, you’re on your own this time! I’ll stand on principle and risk losing than willfully and ignorantly traveling further down the rabbit hole.

  • Mireya Valdes Geilin

    Ann Coulter is so wrong in her assessment, she persuaded me NOT TO BUY her book. No time to waste reading half-truths & misconceptions

  • Anonymous

    Spoken like a true self serving elitist.

  • http://www.imsickofthecrap.com Red_SC

    Hey Ed, can I get a job as a Soros troll? I can write great snarky things! Here’s one – “So’s your old lady!” Pretty good, huh? Can you send me an application? Does George have health insurance?

  • Anonymous

    I’d suggest saving point 1 on your list for Hillary Clinton

  • http://www.imsickofthecrap.com Red_SC

    C’mon Ed, I wanna be a Soros troll, just like you! Please, please, please, please. Just give me a chance! Please?

  • Anonymous

    The best answer to the Washington mess is to limit members to two-term tenures across the board.

  • Anonymous

    If he does, It’s NOT Obamacare.

  • Anonymous

    That’s right. She swooned over the fat man when everyone else was swooning over him. She’s since repented…

  • http://www.imsickofthecrap.com Red_SC

    Even better!

  • Anonymous

    You’re an idiot. The Republicans became a party because the Whigs weren’t taking a strong enough stance against slavery (the democrat position btw). The Tea Party came about because the Republicans aren’t taking a strong enough stance against the liberal socialist agenda (democrats again, btw).

  • Anonymous

    It won’t matter, if we don’t create a third party, True Republicans won’t win, we will have what we got for the last 10 years. A third party to make a point and at least there is hope for the next generation. The Whigs were the first Republican party, certain republicans got fed up and wanted a third party and Democrats who were fed up with their party came over to the Republican party. It may be the next generation, but it’s better than what we got.

  • Anonymous

    Tea Party Patriots demanding God’s freedom endowments and Loyalists to the King still argue in parliamentary meetings just as they did in December of 1773. However, some presidents thinking they are King use executive privilege to bypass or stonewall the debate when the debate isn’t going in their favor.

    Tea Party Patriots include some nutralists and everybody else are now called the GOP and need to be lumped in one party, not two.

  • Dale Hogue

    She certainly has more balls that McCain and his ilk.

  • Anonymous

    the republican establishment needs to go, if they can’t be purged from the party due to their control of the purse strings, then the purse needs to be taken away.

  • Wes Bailey

    I for one would support a 3rd party. As well I know many others that would also. It might surprise some people but a 3rd party could also pull away many Democrats that are on the fence ( especially Hispanics and other minority groups). It’s definitely possible for a new era of political party. The key would be a fair and honest platform with a group of leaders, that are concise and consolidated on goals. observing todays populous, many people are just sticking to what they know, but when questioned, admit they aren’t happy with either party we have today.

  • C Jones

    Ann is wrong – if we don’t get rid of the rinos we won’t have a party so take the real republicans off to the tea party and get on with wiping out the demos. The sooner the better!!!

  • Draxx

    If a large amount of people are going Unrepresented by Two Parties, and there is enough to warrant a Third Party who cares if they split the votes from people controlling everything in ways they disagree with! If people need to make a statement that the original two parties need to change from their current methods, then Taking Away Those Votes Is A Peaceful Way To Disagree And Make That Statement…
    One thing is for sure is, it should not be called the Tea Party (too easy to slander into Tea Baggers as derogatory term), it should be the Constitutionalist Party for better clarification of intent and lack of slander!

  • bucketnutz

    Somebody should tell ANN that the losing has already started without the benefit of a third party. Losing elections because there isn’t a dimes worth of difference between moderate Dems and Moderate Repubs, so we really only have a one party system, Moderates.The “None of the Above Party” would win every time. I will not financially support nor will I vote for another incumbent of any party.

  • Bryon Lape

    Third party? How about a second?

  • Bret Wolz

    Ann, I thought you knew history, ever hear of the Whig Party? Did it Destroy the USA? No it ceased to represent the populace. Republicans did not exist in the earlier stages of our system (as did Democrats, though they are older) Making another party may be what is needed to get this country back on track, or at least get a representative that really represents the citizens of this Country.

  • Robert Starkand

    I think Ann Coulter’s judgment is clouded by her desire to win. It wasn’t too long ago when Republicans did have the power in the Congress and the presidency and what did these Republicans do? They grew the government and empowered the Muslim Brotherhood, that’s what. If McConnell is such a great shakes as a leader, why didn’t he get all 46 Republicans to stand with Ted Cruz and Mike Lee? Instead he was working behind the scenes to undermine them. You can’t put pressure on Red State Democrats unless the Republican caucus is united. If beating Lindsey Graham sends a message, beating McConnell and Cronyn too sends a bigger one.

    And take charge of the debt ceiling debate. Obama is acting like a thug bully threatening the country with default unless the Republicans surrender. John Boehner should get in front of the media and tell them that if Obama defaults, if he doesn’t pay the $20 Billion of debt from the $200 Billion of tax revenues coming in per month, he is violating his oath to uphold the Constitution and violating federal law, and we will impeach him that same day. This could be Obama’s King John, Magna Carta moment, but only if our representatives have the stones to stand up for the Constitution. We demand no less.

  • Elizabeth Stamey

    I love Glenn, but this is the one issue I wish he would quit pushing.
    Why split the vote and make it easier for the libs? We are in the process of reinventing the republican party! I am not about to leave it because of a handful of elites that are on their way out!!! The new faces of the republican party is Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Rand Paul, Trey Gowdy and many more who are speaking and fighting! As long as there are Republicans like these, I will remain in the party. The Elites are losing control, and Tea Party Republicans are gaining influence with libertarians and Independents. This is how a Party is reborn. We are not about to die. We are the Party of freedom. We freed slaves, we led the charge for civil rights, we will return to our base.

  • Anonymous

    Then they’ll call us the Constipationalist Party. It’s a never ending battle.

  • Anonymous

    If the GOP can embrace Libertarianism fully, it will be the party of the future.

  • jo blo

    Hey, there’s always room for one more in that category! (Unfortunately…)

  • jo blo

    Ha!

  • Elizabeth Stamey

    Exactly.

  • NIck25

    It’s easy to see why libs hate Ann– She’s BRILLIANT, GORGEOUS, and she always always RIGHT!!!! Who on the nutty left can compete?

    Keep up the GREAT work, Ann!

  • James LaBarre

    It’s absolutely silly to “sit out” an election if you don’t like what your usual party-of-choice has presented as a candidate. All that does is make the percentages for the 2 major parties like like they have full support. You don’t like what they’re presenting to you? Then put your vote elsewhere. If enough disgruntled voters move their votes elsewhere, it will screw up those percentages the DempPublicans get so hot and bothered about. And who knows; you may even find one of those 3rd parties actually represents most of what you *do* want in a party.

  • James LaBarre

    Perhaps, as an alternative, (if you don’t like 3rd parties) is to add one extra line to every ballot; “None Of The Above”. The Libertarians always consider that an official option on every ballot, and so should the general elections.

  • James LaBarre

    I certainly find myself siding with the Democrats on various issues (such as reproductive rights) almost as much as I side with the Republicans on various issues there. The difference being that I have found gun rights, minimal government and government fiscal responsibility to be *more* critical at this stage. Having a properly libertarian party (which is not necessarily the LP-USA), competently managed (*definitely* not the LP-USA) could go a long way.

  • James LaBarre

    Well, the earlier Chris Christie seemed to be a smart, competent, and well-reasoned person, certainly of better quality than most we see. But then he became Obama’s hump-buddy, and he lost respect from a lot of us.

  • James LaBarre

    Well, there’s your problem. The Republican party is *not* salvageable, and the Democrats have turned hopelessly stupid.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with Ann. I just think we need to take the Republican party back.

  • Jerry Jansen

    I was watching this live with my 8 year-old grandson and he asks me “Who are these guys Hike Rymes and Mister Meaners????

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ Gadamer too

    Couilter is on a mission to have reactionaries chill out to save the Republican Party from destroying itself. “Win, win, win.” I say follow Beck and lose, lose and lose more elections for the next few generations.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/10/15/how-bad-is-it-even-ann-coulter-has-turned-on-conservatives.html

  • Izaran

    Here’s the problem.

    This isn’t a matter about Left vs Right anymore. It’s become a matter of Libertarian vs Authoritarian. Individual vs State.

    Both parties treat our nation like a Democracy and a limitless credit card. They treat our citizens like criminals, and many have contempt for the individual. They treat the market as their own little profit scheme, whereby they can select who succeeds and who fails. This is not indicative of one party over another…they both do it.

    They both want to control our private lives to a point they try to shove doctrine down our throats. Take gay marriage. Republicans want to wield power to prevent it to force their beliefs onto others. Democrats want to wield power forcing private groups (like churches) to obey their beliefs. Both have contempt for individual liberty and free will.

    Immigration is another interesting issue, one I’ve recently been reassessing.

    Republicans want to protect the welfare state as much as Democrats. If people looked at immigration in this country, they will notice it was pretty much open borders until the the establishment of entitlement programs and welfare. Take that and think about how Republicans especially justify the limitations of immigration under “Illegals get into the welfare system, spoiling it”. This is because it is the argument of the entitled and greedy wanting to keep all that free cheese for themselves…neverminding the health of markets…the same markets that would do better for them if they were motivated to try…can sustain and would naturally grow under open immigration. The so called damage to the market is the sound off of Welfare Statists and Unions. Immigrants mean more people which reduces the ability for welfare systems to be sustained, and immigration means competition of labor in the marketplace…a sacrosanct idea to Free Market ideology. Who among us would not be driven to say “Look at me here, I am the BETTER candidate” It creates a strong ground for us to push ourselves to try harder.

    Bottom line: the Republican and Democrats want the same things (power, personal wealth, control, and conformity), merely disagree with how to achieve that centralized authority.

  • Izaran

    It’s not even a fragment of the ‘best’. Part of it yes, but not the full solution. The solution is to also impose Constitutional reinforcement via a Constitutional Convention. There is a very good reason why the Congress and the President fear one. The last time a Convention was held…was to amend the Articles of Confederation. And oh ‘amend’ they did…as in they scrapped it and established the Constitution. The Framers were wise to recognize the importance of that last reserve power of the individual states. There is a reason I call it the Power of Final Resort. It is the ultimate and last solution for the States to fight for their liberty without bloodshed. The problem is that the Two Party system especially has done such catastrophic damage of the solvency of the unity of the States it’s almost impossible for one to occur. Nevermind the division it’s created in the people. The centralization of power during the American Civil War has contributed greatly to the demoralization of the States. Essentially one can argue that the fortitude of the States is weak and when it’s weak they are more easily coerced into surrendering their rights.

    1) Term limits
    2) Convention to amend, placing clear and strict limits of on Federal power…closing debate on wording in the original text, and reinforcing the Bill of Rights…particularly concerning the 9th and 10th Amendments.
    3) Immediate elections forbidding incumbency across all seats in Congress, the Senate, and the Presidency…under the idea of preventing continual disregard and abuse of the Convention’s results…to ensure compliance.
    4) Dismantling of the Welfare State (slowly if need be, but it must be done right)
    5) Abolition of any law of questionable nature concerning the Constitution and it’s new amendments. This can be done through the Convention formally establishing the power of both Jury Nullification and Legislative Nullification.

    These are extremes by today’s standards…many people see this as pipe dreams…but you have to have a dream for a dream to come true.

  • Richard Harold Weatherfield

    Rush is not in line with the GOP establishment. If anything he goes after them at least as hard as he does the Dems.

  • jo blo

    When’s the last time you heard him actively call for a primary challenge to Boner, McConnell or any of the other losers who are driving this country into the ground?

    He is scared to death to talk about a 3rd party. He holds to the ‘vote for the lesser of two evils’ school of thought. I know he talks about how the GOP needs to be more conservative, but at the end of the day, his philosophy conveys to the GOPe (GOP establishment) that we will, like good beaten wives, always support the GOP, no matter how terrible they are.

  • jo blo

    It must suck to be this big of an idiot…

  • Anonymous

    Socialists, DINOs and RINOs each keep a finger in the wind, verifying that U.S. voters are worn-down, disengaged and/or just-plain-dumb, and flipping-the-bird to the rest! State courts and legislatures conspire to keep credible independent and third-party challengers off the ballot. Take my home state of Pennsylvania [PLEASE!] as a typical example. What sane person expects a successful third party, when no independent nor minor party candidate has survived a ballot access challenge by a major-party candidate in the 40-year existence of Commonwealth Court, and SCOTUS consistently refuses to hear the appeals ?

  • Anonymous

    I see that BO and his co-horts not only have the GOP Senators and House members to squabble, they have got Rep/Conservatives voters to squabble as well. Why do you think the GOP lost? Because some rather stay at home and because they couldnt stomach voting for the candidate who isnt theirs. The fracture since has only gotten deeper. This is sure to secure the Dem candidate another win in 2016.

    If Romney had won, we would have had our way to get rid of many of the House members and Senators. Now there are so many “wars” to fight, from within the GOP and the crap BO is pounding at this country, daily

  • Anonymous

    I heard this interview with Ann Coulter this morning. It was pretty interesting to hear Glenn Beck sucking on Coulter’s dick and licking her balls, because they clearly disagree on political strategies. But more than anything, whats clear from the interview is that Coulter and Beck are both incredible narcissists and need to “be right” and speak first. They both suck

  • Jonathan Smith

    It’s
    all about branding the republican bran is DOA once a brand dies it’s over like
    Kmart the blue light special is now more. This is a chance to re brand and win
    over those democrats who are conservative but don’t know there party is fare
    form it but would never go over to the republicans permanently. The democrats have built there brand but the
    republicans have only sat buy the table and waited for the scraps. I will never
    vote for another republican again.

  • felix ruiz

    It has to start with a 3rd party,cruz lee,paul walking away from the repubs and starting “The LIBERTY Party”…money will flow from the grass roots…whats the downside…there is none…repubs have lost all there current electins..others can join us …eventually the repub party will die and well have Liberty party without RINOS…to many voters are stupid and PAIDOFF in Arizona,tennesee,and south carolina

  • Anonymous

    I know I am sick of the Republicans and just might switch if that means voting for Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, etc. I would change in a New York instant. I am sick of all the old guard. We definitely need some young ones with fresh ideas.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sue-Terry/1228328167 Sue Terry

    you 2 are just as bad as them

  • Anonymous

    The GOP IS salvageable but not until the old guard makes a sincere 180 turn or are replaced/retired. I’m speaking ONLY of the old guard who are satisfied with latching on to the hind teat of the Democrats and playing the Beltway business as usual, happy with providing big government table scraps game. They MUST choose to take the bull by the horns and follow the lead constructed from examples set by the Founding Fathers and decide to govern themselves. Get their lives in order and get serious about their OWN accountability. They need to be LEADERS not complicite professional politicians. Not until they do this will they be able to give as good as they get on the political stage, instead of being excessively passive and afraid of their own shadows. They need to begin promoting younger, more vital, more intelligent and more politically savvy candidates. But these candidates MUST remain genuinely Conservative AND unwaveringly adhere to the Constitution. The same accountability is essential from ALL (me included) citizens as well. It’s our (the citizens) country, NOT the politicians. They work (or should work) for us. Obama has a perspective that is diametrically opposed to this concept. There must be real hope and change instead of this pro new world order, Socialist agenda pushing, sell out America for a quick buck, politically correct or be shamed in submission buffoonery we are experiencing today. It’s a serious job for serious individuals because it’s a corrupt world. We’ve selfishly saddled future generations with OUR debt. Debt born of OUR ignorance and short sightedness. I admit, I’m just as guilty as the next guy. The difference is I see the mess and have decided that the buck stops here and want to fix it at ANY cost.

  • Watch it

    The idea is not to make a third party that splits the conservative vote, which would assure that the Democrats retain power, but instead to further infiltrate and take over the Republican party, just as the socialists have done with the Democrat party.

  • Anonymous

    Are you really a lib trying to sabotage us? Run some quick numbers in your head (fell free to modify my numbers, but mine have to be within 10% of accurate). Say the Democrats have been averaging at least 48% of the votes. What percent of DEMOCRATS, do you think would switch to a new, conservative third party, 1%? So now the current Republican vote, would still get at least 10%. The NEW party, at BEST, would be lucky to get 35% (I would predict more like 20%). The final result would actually be about 48% D, 23% R, and 22% Cons. Before our new party could ever be a force, this country will no longer have free elections.

  • Anonymous

    I would rather see Cruz and other real conservatives point out the Rinos and actively campaign against them and for Tea Party candidates in all the primaries. Ousting the GOP establishment and inserting real conservatives is a much better approach than a third party.

  • Anonymous

    Be careful what you wish for. A lot of bad things could happen in a Constitutional Convention. Think of the Second Amendment as an example of what could go wrong.

  • Keith Howard

    Dang Ann looks good in the poster. Smart bold and beautiful. what a woman!

  • jo blo

    Yeah, you got me. I’m a lib. That’s why I spend all the time I do arguing with libs. It’s an elaborate ruse to use comments on Glenn Beck’s site to sabotage conservatism; after all, my posting the above comment will ensure that millions of Republicans go out tomorrow and change their voter registration.

    /sarc.

    Hate to break to you, but the current system ain’t working out so good. If it’s really as bad as you say, we’re screwed either way, so might as well try the right thing.

    I see you’ve drank the ‘GOP ueber alles’ kool-aid…

  • Robert Preisser

    How? I hear that ill-defined fear being spread whenever a constitutional convention discussion arises. The reality is a constitutional convention can’t throw out the second amendment willy-nilly (or any other part of the constitution, for that matter). Any changes made via constitutional convention must still be ratified by 2/3rds of the states afterwards. That puts a huge obstacle in the way of any such complete re-writes of fundamental liberties. I am a big supporter of a constitutional convention as the only way we will ever be able to impose any limits on the legislative branch’s powers (e.g., term limits, line-item veto, etc.). If we have to go through congress to pass constitutional amendments, then we will never pass any amendment limiting congress’ powers. Congress simply won’t pass the amendments. That’s precisely why the framers of the constitution established the constitutional convention path to amending the constitution in the first place.

  • Anonymous

    I revise my last on the Crowley vs. Paul thread – this topic has brought in a number of well thought out comments.

    Glenn, and many on the thread, has a good point on the creation of the Republican party to replace the Whigs in a brief time, but he leaves out the great change in the voting population between then and now. In the 1850s the vote was limited to “free men”, as a percentage of the population the vote was less. There were “no nothing” voters in the cities, paid for their votes by the local machines – but on the whole it was a more educated and involved voting population.

    I’m not suggesting we return to that, just that times have changed. I tend to feel that Ann is right (as was Reagan) – we need candidates who can be elected in the various states. We need to reverse the trend toward big government gradually. I may not be right, perhaps it is possible for a new third party of conservatives to win national office, but I doubt it. We are gaining in the state governorships – for all many of you say about Christie (in my state of NJ) he is effecting reforms in the state within the limitations of a “blue” state.

    We have two choices – a centrally governed nation or one governed from the localities up. We conservatives prefer the latter, it is our Constitutional heritage. But if we demand that our national candidates “toe the line” to every detail we can’t win. The President is elected by the Electoral College, not the popular vote. The Electoral College is the votes of the States weighted by population. We need the votes of the moderately conservative states to win the Presidency. We are already seeing movements in some states to make their electoral vote proportional, that would hurt us further as a strongly conservative state would contribute liberal votes to the College.

    One of the basic principles of the Constitution is the protection of the interests of the smaller states, the College and the Senate (please repeal the 17th). We have lost that by bureaucratic decree, the Commerce clause and other things.

    Enough, it is getting late (both tonight and for the country). I’ll take Ann’s argument, although I realize that it isn’t perfect. A coin toss is 50/50, a decision never is. I’d say that Ann’s argument is a 55% bet as to what is the best way to return to Constitutional gpvernance, Glenn’s is purer, but only 45%. Remember that if the weather report says 10% chance of rain you still could be caught in a downpour.

  • Robert Preisser

    The point people forget is the battle for the soul of the party needs to be fought during PRIMARIES. That’s when we can refuse to accept the RINO’s and Republican leadership’s hand-picked “moderate” candidates, and vote in true constitutional conservatives. AFTER THAT POINT, though, Johnnygard’s numbers are completely correct. All that happens when conservatives sit out or vote for a third party candidate is to split the conservative vote while the progressive vote remains a solid block, and conservatives will lose EVERY TIME. I sympathize with the frustration of conservatives with having to vote for a McCain… but where were they during the primaries leading up to McCain becoming the nominee? Voter turn out for primaries is always much less than for general elections. By then it’s too late to change who they have to choose between.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ Gadamer too

    Coulter is lying of course; third parties are how candidates lose. Just ask Bush 41. Elsewhere, Coulter is railing against the extremists that she doesn’t happen to like.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/10/15/how-bad-is-it-even-ann-coulter-has-turned-on-conservatives.html

  • Bridge S

    Instead of NO party, lets call it YES party on the ballot. (Secretly, we’ll know it stands for “YES America is exceptional!”) We’ll steal all the Dems sheep because as lazy voters they’ll see YES and PARTY and vote for their two favorite words! Yay, we all win!!!

  • Anonymous

    this is the argument that the two controlled parties use,,, what
    happened to the wigs and other parties from the past …Who was the
    first GOP pres, party formed in 1850

    ‘s,,, a third party is the
    answer to the other parties being taken over,, that is why they are
    feeding us our ‘picked by them leaders’ Palin, Cruz, Rubio, think for
    just one moment and it will be as plane as day these are set up!

  • ken.

    if you don’t vote with your values and principles it is wasted. if you vote down party lines or for the lessor of two evils your vote is wasted. if you vote out of fear the other side will win your vote is wasted. if you sit it out your vote is wasted.

  • ken.

    the republican party was a third party.

  • jo blo

    Problem with that argument is that the RINOS control the party and therefore the money. Worse yet, so-called conservative media is always one the side of the establishment (qv 2012 GOP primary). Worst of all, I hate to say it but our average conservative has been just as as low-info as your average lib. Just like the brain-dead lib, these dummies have believed X because its awn thuh tee vee. Which gets back to my original point. Now notice I did not say just as dumb as your average lib. The differentia specifica of a conservative is that he is smart enough to accept the lessons that life knocks in his skull. And I think many of us are starting to see that the RINOS will destroy this country just like the libs will, and that this stuff about a third party has been the way they’ve prodded us into line. It is increasingly apparent that sticking with the GOP is a certain path to destruction while a third party is only a likely one. Helluva choice I know. I’m too young to have had a hand in this, and now I get to help clean up the mess. Believe me if I’d have had a say in it the bastard RINOS would never have gotten this much control in the party. Well know soon enough if its beyond repair.

  • jo blo

    Problem with that argument is that the RINOS control the party and therefore the money. Worse yet, so-called conservative media is always one the side of the establishment (qv 2012 GOP primary). Worst of all, I hate to say it but our average conservative has been just as as low-info as your average lib. Just like the brain-dead lib, these dummies have believed X because its awn thuh tee vee. Which gets back to my original point. Now notice I did not say just as dumb as your average lib. The differentia specifica of a conservative is that he is smart enough to accept the lessons that life knocks in his skull. And I think many of us are starting to see that the RINOS will destroy this country just like the libs will, and that this stuff about a third party has been the way they’ve prodded us into line. It is increasingly apparent that sticking with the GOP is a certain path to destruction while a third party is only a likely one. Helluva choice I know. I’m too young to have had a hand in this, and now I get to help clean up the mess. Believe me if I’d have had a say in it the bastard RINOS would never have gotten this much control in the party. Well know soon enough if its beyond repair.

  • Anonymous

    And your disgusting use of the
    English language accomplishes what?

  • Anonymous

    And your disgusting use of the
    English language accomplishes what?

  • Lioness

    True. Just hope that Ann Coulter doesn’t start drooling over Chris Christy.

  • Lioness

    True. Just hope that Ann Coulter doesn’t start drooling over Chris Christy.

  • Anonymous

    Hey, dipshttts, go read the news Ted Cruz just threw you all under the bus, no filibuster of the senate compromise sez Ted. I’ve used the right wing nut jobs long enough.

  • Anonymous

    Hey, dipshttts, go read the news Ted Cruz just threw you all under the bus, no filibuster of the senate compromise sez Ted. I’ve used the right wing nut jobs long enough.

  • Lioness

    Where there is a “right wing nut job” there always seems to be a left wing nut job in tow.

  • Lioness

    Where there is a “right wing nut job” there always seems to be a left wing nut job in tow.

  • Anonymous

    Not really true though. Because Senators are elected by popular vote now — so the “States” don’t really have representation the way they used to.

  • Suzy Q

    Point 1, why would you need to say that? How is that helpful? Personal attacks are so weak when making a “point.” Ugh!

  • Suzy Q

    Point 1, why would you need to say that? How is that helpful? Personal attacks are so weak when making a “point.” Ugh!

  • Anonymous

    I agree with only the first sentence. It is a PART of the solution.
    Second part is to reinforce the constitution by Amendment requiring all bills to first pass a couple tests. 1) Is it constitutional — does it fall under the enumerated powers AS defined by, understood by, and documented by the founding fathers at the time of ratification. That includes all Amendments at the time of their ratification by their authors. 2) Is there a clear purpose to the bill, and do all parts directly support that purpose? (i.e. Is there any pork or bundling?).

    Only if 1 and 2 are met, can anything whatsoever happen with the bill. AND for any amendment to the bill, the #2 test must be passed for the amendment. All persons voting must certify that they have read the bill, and that they understand it. A certification that the bill is too lengthy or complicated for general understanding or enforcement is a vote against it.

    Add term limits, and a requirement that all current bills be reviewed and subjected to the same scrutiny in reverse chronological order with a minimum page number of bills to be reviewed each year in order to receive wages for service, and you’ve got another start.

    Lastly, an amendment setting the pay to that of average middle class worker from the area where the representative lives, and prohibition of receiving gifts or money from anyone during their tenure or in relation thereto.

    Eliminate lobbyists.

    Simple fixes that need to be implemented in order to save the union.

  • Anonymous

    If 2/3 of the States are “red” states, we might be OK.

  • Suzy Q

    Third party would hurt us, is hurting us. Ann does have a point here. Our country is disappearing through the divide and conquer method. We are so divided we have many “parties” all saying different things to please those with itching ears, we are seeking and never coming to a knowledge of the truth. When we don’t want true principles to guide us, we fall for the most entertaining speaker. That’s where we are at. If people don’t wake up and start living right and find God, we will be put upon the trash of heap of fallen nations. I can’t support the repubs any longer. If they want my vote and/or my money then they better start representing my values. The sword of justice is hanging over us as a country and we think we can make that go away by pushing the debt ceiling down the road by compromising on timing of laws and seasons? Repent and be cleansed through Christ and serve Him only or we are all going to get a little washing and cleansing of this land. The first cleansing of the earth was by water, this one will get a little toasty. It will start here in America.

  • Suzy Q

    Third party would hurt us, is hurting us. Ann does have a point here. Our country is disappearing through the divide and conquer method. We are so divided we have many “parties” all saying different things to please those with itching ears, we are seeking and never coming to a knowledge of the truth. When we don’t want true principles to guide us, we fall for the most entertaining speaker. That’s where we are at. If people don’t wake up and start living right and find God, we will be put upon the trash of heap of fallen nations. I can’t support the repubs any longer. If they want my vote and/or my money then they better start representing my values. The sword of justice is hanging over us as a country and we think we can make that go away by pushing the debt ceiling down the road by compromising on timing of laws and seasons? Repent and be cleansed through Christ and serve Him only or we are all going to get a little washing and cleansing of this land. The first cleansing of the earth was by water, this one will get a little toasty. It will start here in America.

  • Anonymous

    The pathetic thing about this is nobody expects the Democrats to act responsibly. It’s the Republicans who in the popular culture are supposed to be the responsible ones to make sure the whole house doesn’t fall apart, even though Democrats are creating the mess. This gives the Democrats a foil, to act rebellious against responsible authority. To heck with that! I so want the Republicans to give the Democrats the finger, so the Democrats will feel pressure to act responsibly. If that means some bad stuff happens, so be it. Bad stuff is eventually going to happen with our gov’t's financial position anyway. Better sooner than later.

    Glenn said Obama acted like “The Deer Hunter,” that he’d declare default if the GOP didn’t raise the debt ceiling. Let him! “Oh, that’s going to be terrible.” It’s going to be terrible someday anyway, at the rate we’re going. I want the Republicans to act like Dirty Harry. “Do you feel lucky, punk? Go ahead. Make my day!” Let the Democrats concede something, like they got Republicans to concede, even when the Republicans had most of the power, for cripes sake! This concession accomplishes nothing.

  • Anonymous

    The pathetic thing about this is nobody expects the Democrats to act responsibly. It’s the Republicans who in the popular culture are supposed to be the responsible ones to make sure the whole house doesn’t fall apart, even though Democrats are creating the mess. This gives the Democrats a foil, to act rebellious against responsible authority. To heck with that! I so want the Republicans to give the Democrats the finger, so the Democrats will feel pressure to act responsibly. If that means some bad stuff happens, so be it. Bad stuff is eventually going to happen with our gov’t's financial position anyway. Better sooner than later.

    Glenn said Obama acted like “The Deer Hunter,” that he’d declare default if the GOP didn’t raise the debt ceiling. Let him! “Oh, that’s going to be terrible.” It’s going to be terrible someday anyway, at the rate we’re going. I want the Republicans to act like Dirty Harry. “Do you feel lucky, punk? Go ahead. Make my day!” Let the Democrats concede something, like they got Republicans to concede, even when the Republicans had most of the power, for cripes sake! This concession accomplishes nothing.

  • Anonymous

    Social media, and grass-roots activism can nullify big money commercials.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91J4PAda3EA Sam Fisher

    God let’s pray that she is smart enough to see he is not one of us.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91J4PAda3EA Sam Fisher

    God let’s pray that she is smart enough to see he is not one of us.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91J4PAda3EA Sam Fisher

    That is because we are leaders and they are mindless followers.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91J4PAda3EA Sam Fisher

    That is because we are leaders and they are mindless followers.

  • Anonymous

    jo, sorry I missed what makes your opinion so much better than mine. I offered a possible, partial solution below, but in case you missed it, here it is again:

    I would rather see Cruz and other real conservatives point out the Rinos and actively campaign against them, and for Tea Party candidates in all the primaries. Ousting the GOP establishment and inserting real conservatives is a much better and faster approach than a third party.
    We all know that democrats generally know very little about politics. Many republicans are also too busy to follow politics, but at least they know the repubs. are less likely to take their guns and raise their taxes as high as dems would like. So if you start a third party, they aren’t suddenly going to get envolved and start paying attention. They will just continue to vote against the dems by voting for the reps. That will split our vote and guarantee another dem victory. We need to take back the GOP.
    You sound like a Ron Paul guy that wouldn’t vote for the “lessor of two evils”, Romney, and instead helped elect the WORST of all evils.

  • Anonymous

    jo, sorry I missed what makes your opinion so much better than mine. I offered a possible, partial solution below, but in case you missed it, here it is again:

    I would rather see Cruz and other real conservatives point out the Rinos and actively campaign against them, and for Tea Party candidates in all the primaries. Ousting the GOP establishment and inserting real conservatives is a much better and faster approach than a third party.
    We all know that democrats generally know very little about politics. Many republicans are also too busy to follow politics, but at least they know the repubs. are less likely to take their guns and raise their taxes as high as dems would like. So if you start a third party, they aren’t suddenly going to get envolved and start paying attention. They will just continue to vote against the dems by voting for the reps. That will split our vote and guarantee another dem victory. We need to take back the GOP.
    You sound like a Ron Paul guy that wouldn’t vote for the “lessor of two evils”, Romney, and instead helped elect the WORST of all evils.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t recall Rush, or Glenn, or any other “conservative” pushing for Romney in the primaries.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t recall Rush, or Glenn, or any other “conservative” pushing for Romney in the primaries.

  • Snorri

    With a dynamic and growing economy, even those firmly attached to the “Public Teat” via Democrats and Republicans could be accomodated. Unfortunately, that would leave no opportunity for the “feel good” redistribution of income by the all knowing and compassionate. After all, your working, saving and sacrificing for a better standard of living for your family is an affront to those who view the planet’s poor and downtrodden from their penthouses.

  • Snorri

    With a dynamic and growing economy, even those firmly attached to the “Public Teat” via Democrats and Republicans could be accomodated. Unfortunately, that would leave no opportunity for the “feel good” redistribution of income by the all knowing and compassionate. After all, your working, saving and sacrificing for a better standard of living for your family is an affront to those who view the planet’s poor and downtrodden from their penthouses.

  • Anonymous

    She has already publicly apologized and admitted she was wrong about Chris.

  • Anonymous

    She has already publicly apologized and admitted she was wrong about Chris.

  • Kanak Attack

    She’s such a typical GOP supporter… “It’s about winning!” No. It’s about supporting and following the Constitution. These freakin’ people are so obsessed with supporting their little good ‘ole boys club rather than supporting the American Experiment. Self-centered traitors, all of them.

  • Kanak Attack

    She’s such a typical GOP supporter… “It’s about winning!” No. It’s about supporting and following the Constitution. These freakin’ people are so obsessed with supporting their little good ‘ole boys club rather than supporting the American Experiment. Self-centered traitors, all of them.

  • Anonymous

    I am not optimistic about the prospects of a third party. I was part of Ross Perot’s campaigns for president in 1992 and 1996, and the effort to create the Reform Party. It was no picnic. The legal roadblocks the two major parties put in our way weren’t the worst of it. The worst of it was dealing with each other inside the party. There was a lot of jockeying for power within the party structure. We were practically consumed by it, because there was a desire to define ourselves, but there was also the pressure of wanting to win elections. So the contest was between a purity of vision and those who thought they were more pragmatic and could win elections. There was a legitimate case to be made on both sides. What ultimately did us in, I think, was the introduction of FEC money. Perot won enough of the popular vote in ’96 that the party nominee in 2000 became eligible for FEC funds, and then there was a huge fight over that money, which was part of why the party fell apart.

    I think another factor that brought us down, and I was partly guilty of being a part of this, was there was a significant contingent which wanted to remain loyal to a “founding vision” of the party. The problem was when we went looking for candidates to run, none of them fit that vision perfectly. There was an effort to create a mainstream third party last year, which had a similar problem. And then there was a huge fight over which compromise we should take, which tore the party apart.

    Despite all this, we were successful in creating a consensus within the two major parties to temporarily embrace fiscal discipline. The GOP used us as a foil to press for fiscal restraint, and for a brief time, I’d say about 3-4 years, the gov’t controlled itself. Then 9/11/01 happened, and the consensus for fiscal restraint fell apart. By then the Reform Party had pretty well destroyed itself, and so there was no means to restore that pressure.

    What I ultimately realized is that a third party, any party, is just a vehicle. It’s driven by whoever is most powerful within its structure. Just because a large group of people creates a party does not mean that their vision for it will hold sway with it down the road. It can completely change direction, and disappoint many of its founders.

    In addition, the two-party system is a bit like New York: If you can make it there, you can make it anywhere. The Tea Party has shown some success within the GOP, and is showing that it has staying power. All to the better.

    I think the Tea Party, acting within the GOP, is the most promising movement I’ve seen to create limited gov’t. It has been making progress, though I acknowledge it is slow going. The Tea Party is not strong enough yet to pull the levers of power, but I think if they keep at it long enough they will someday get that ability. I think we have to keep in mind that the progressives have been *very* patient. They’ve been at this for 100 years, and they’ve gotten quite a bit of what they’ve wanted as a result. I think we need to show the same patience. Even though our country’s circumstances are not looking good in the long run, I think we’re better off acting within the two-party structure for the time being. It creates an avenue for engagement, rather than rivalry, when we have some things in common with elements of it.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91J4PAda3EA Sam Fisher

    You mean Ted Cruz can be reasonable unlike President temper tantrum.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91J4PAda3EA Sam Fisher

    You mean Ted Cruz can be reasonable unlike President temper tantrum.

  • Guest

    Where will the RINOs go? To the Democrat party, which screws conservatives in a split off.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Skyler-Sneathen/100001205612843 Skyler Sneathen

    Coulter needs to be shot in the face, that we Coulter cannot be given an open casket funeral.

  • jo blo

    Well, first off, I said there were exceptions. Beck, however, was the only one who unequivocally opposed Romney, and every other statist RINO, for that matter. The others were scared of Obama, they dared not speak against any GOP candidate. In fact, about all a lot of them (including rush) could manage was to play the ‘two wrongs make a right’ game.

  • jo blo

    Quit being an effete, sensitive wimp.

    Nowhere did I say that my opinion was better than yours. I simply laid out what I thought was wrong with what you said, just as you had done before, regarding what I said.

    You know, reaching back two millenia to Plato, there’s been this concept that elected officials’ character reflects that of their constituents. As many sensitive crybabies as I’ve encountered among my fellow conservatives, I’m starting to understand why we’re stuck with what is largely a group of spineless wimps for elected representation.

    Quit ASSuming things about me; I think Ron Paul is a nut, and libertarianism is an intellectually and morally bankrupt ‘philosophy’ (in quotes because it’s not worthy of the name, in my humble estimation). I voted for that twit Romney, and I did my part to get out the vote, as did millions of conservatives who knew he was a loser, and that he would fall spectacularly before Obama, as he did. It is that experience, along with a 100 other times that the GOP has screwed us that a lot of us are getting sick of the song ‘n dance. As I said above, from where I’m standing, it looks like we have a 100% chance of failure sticking with the GOP, or a 99% chance of failure going third party. 1% possibility of survival beats 0. That’s where the establishment bastards have gotten us. And a lot of us have had it. Personally, I’m going to give these miscreants 1 more chance. After that, I’m done with them, and I’m going to make my case to my many conservative friends and family, of why I am leaving, and why they should, too.

  • jo blo

    Give me a break. Apparently, you’re not very well versed in the history of politics or political debate. It is a tradition steeped in personal attacks. But that’s beside the point here. Everything I said is simply a description. It is apparent you have bought into the leftist bullshit that calling a spade a spade is a personal attack. That’s your problem. I won’t let you, or anyone else, make it mine.

    I have a question for you now: how does smug, high-horse ‘nice-guy’ tactics help anything? How are they helpful? Really? How? In case you haven’t noticed, the other side attacks all the time, and they’re doing a bang-up job getting their point across.

  • jo blo

    Done right, and at the right time, yes. But it is hard to overcome the 24 hour news cycle when it is 90% dominated by the enemy; not to mention social media is also dominated by the left, who have, for instance, taken to removing conservative sites whose message they disagree with. Not all, but it has happened. Let us really make some headway through social media, and I bet you see these incidences increase greatly.

  • Anonymous

    If Beck would spend the time to get the bad old guard out of the Rep party, we could elect people that remember who they work for. I only her GOP talking about going independent, not any liberals. We would hand everything over to the liberals. We have to stay focused and get the cronies out of office.

  • Jim Grant

    “That’s a MAN , baby!”

  • Anonymous

    They make a good pair, Ann and Glenn, two extremists who have marginalized themselves, and now operate in the the periphery, the world of obscure websites and books that no one cares about. I think a third party is a fantastic idea, to absorb all of the radical hatred coming from the Tea party, and make it even less likely that conservatives will win any elections any time soon. I applaud Obama’s refusal to negotiate with these extortionists, and find to gratifying to see the far right losing their minds on websites like this one, plaintively wondering who they have left to vote for.

  • Anonymous

    One of the (many) problems the Tea party faces is the simple fact that most Americans don’t go for their wild-eyed jingoism, or their ignorant diatribes about everything from women’s reproductive systems to global macro-economics. The louder and the more red-in-the-face the Tea party gets, shouting and using juvenile pet names for people, the more they turn off average Americans, who don’t feel it appropriate to return to a value system from 150 years ago, or to act like petulant 5th-graders. Ted Cruz is just the latest darling of this fickle, paranoid group, and already the claws of the ultra-right are coming out for him because of “The Great Cave.”

  • Anonymous

    But Romney didn’t win, America said a resounding “NO!” to the agenda of the extremist right, and re-elected Obama. Obamacare was a big deal in that election, if you remember, and America voted for it. Your guys lost, and lost big. Now you can add Cruz’s Quixotic crusade against the ACA to your long list of spectacular failures, put your tail between your legs and come back when you have something more acceptable to Americans than your “Bring back the Stone Age” crap.

  • Anonymous

    I’ll agree with you on one point, you guys certainly are on the receiving end of the big ol’ Presidential Bird on this one. You brought your A game, such as it is, and your new Caped Hero, and Obama told you guys to pound sand, and made it stick. You can hear the music in the background, Marvin Gaye’s “Let’s Get it On,” sung in the sweet baritone of President Obama himself. . .

  • Marie

    Oh look, a brainwashed collectivist. Tea Partiers are not ignorant about women’s reproductive systems – that stupid comment by Todd Akin does NOT represent the knowledge of every tea partier in this country.

    Let’s see – which party is the one comparing Tea Partiers to terrorists, murderers, etc? Oh, it’s the Democrats – ELECTED Democrats currently serving in public office. Not even the Tea Partiers in Congress act like they do.

    As usual, you toss out these idiotic insults – Tea Partiers know nothing about this and that – but you don’t demonstrate any understanding of the things we allegedly don’t understand.

    You’re a brainwashed idiot who cannot form a coherent argument about anything. All you have are petty, juvenile, schoolyard insults. You’re the ignorant one.

    You want to know what stupidity is? Stupidity is having the Federal Reserve print money to pay off the national debt. Guess who insisted that be done? Hint: it wasn’t the Tea Party.

    Go back to your orgy. Being a used up little sex toy is all you’re good for.

  • Marie

    As I said earlier, all you have is namecalling and projection. Democrats are the one slinging names, not us. We just want the government to spend our tax dollars responsibly. If you had actually talked to a Tea Partier, you’d know that. Unfortunately, you are another brainwashed lemming who gets their talking points from Miley Cyrus and the idiots at MSNBC. The world would be a better place without you.

  • Anonymous

    Actually, I have spoken with Tea party people, online and in person, and one thing they all seem to have in common is a fetish for saying things like “John McStain” or “Oblamer” when they’re talking about elected officials. Another common core belief seems to be that macro-economics doesn’t matter, and that it would be possible to go back to the gold currency standard. The list goes on and on, and yes, it gets to reproductive rights and whether or not the world is only 6,000 years old. Ignorant Tea party mantras are in no short supply, just take a look at the signs people come up with at the rallies. You can also generally tell a Tea partier by the grade-school writing style they employ, and on this last point alone, you seem to buck the trend. Good for you, Marie!

  • Anonymous

    Well honestly, I couldn’t very well expect the TP to call *themselves* extortionists and that kind of thing, could I?

    And I will give you props for the sex toy thing, that was creative at least.

  • Lioness

    She probably should apologize for Romney too, but I’ll be nice. Oddly enough, I agree with her opinions most of the time, it’s just strange how she gets blindsided by those RINOs. I guess no ones perfect:)

  • John

    I agree with Glenn on this, Third party is the way to go. We need to break the two party back. We also need real Constitutionalists elected, all the way to the white house, and term limits for everyone even the SCOTUS.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ Gadamer too

    I agree with Glenn Beck on this, third party is the way to make sure that progressives get elected. Just ask George Bush 41 and Ross the boss.

  • Anonymous

    All I see from my long term support of the rebups is contempt and lies. They no longer support us , so we need to REPLACE then old school dogs with ones that have a fighting spirit. We sure aren’t gaining from any of their antics.

  • goob

    Putting conservatives in through the primaries is where it needs to happen and if it doesn’t go vote Democrat, get the RINOS OUT!! They are cowards and just like no army can truly be a force when it is filled with cowards, neither can a political party. But let the Rinos know out they will go ,either in the primaries or through the general election but get them out. Boehner believes he is safer voting with the Dems, cowards like that need to know they are going to lose their seat by voting with dems. If Boehner thinks it is a good idea to vote with dems why shouldn’t we too? Vote the rinos out!!
    The premise of ”lets not do the right thing then maybe we’ll keep our seats” , keep the seats for what? To vote with the dems? Better for the 87 Republicans that voted with the dems , for dems to have those seats.

    I believe Boehner insured a dem presidential victory in 2016 by caving to BOcare!

  • Anonymous

    Koulter is a NEO-Con scumbag