‘I am glad Santa is black’: MSNBC’s Toure bizarrely weighs in on Santa Claus race controversy

Fox News’ Megyn Kelly made headlines last week when she asserted both Jesus and Santa Claus are white. Everyone from Jon Stewart to Bill O’Reilly to Saturday Night Live has commented on the claim, and now MSNBC’s Touré is getting in the action… a mere five days after the controversy began.

“I don’t understand this debate on whether Santa is white or black,” Glenn said on radio this morning. “Is this where we’re at? We have to know whether Santa’s black or white? I mean, umm, you really want to have this conversation? Introduce me into the conversation because I’ve got an opinion on it… Not one that anybody really wants to hear. Everyone will regret opening up the door of ‘Is Santa white or black’ with Glenn Beck… Anybody want to have that conversation?”

After several minutes of reassurance from Pat that Glenn is probably better off keeping this particular opinion to himself, they played Touré’s puzzling logic on situation:

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TOURÉ: …I, for one, am glad Santa’s black because I don’t want my kids worshipping some old white dude who flies in to give them stuff. Thinking a benevolent white man gives them stuff every year is good training for a life on welfare. Talk about creating a culture of dependency.

“Hang on just a second. Did he say that the government giving people welfare creates dependency in the black neighborhoods,” Glenn asked. “[But] only if it’s administered by a white guy? Otherwise it’s completely okay?”

But Touré wasn’t finished:

TOURÉ: …But to be insistent that he’s not black and can’t be black strikes me as an attempt to perpetuate white supremacy and to posit that whiteness is somehow normal and central while blackness is other or different. So many black kids know how Harris felt as a child when she craved icons that told her she belonged, that she was not an outsider.

“He is right on this front. I, not being a black man… can’t speak with authority. I will just tell you that, you know. I have black friends, and my black friends have told me their childhood really sucked because there were no history books. There was nothing that was telling them of good, strong heroes that happened in this country. Why were those books erased? Why were the books about great American black men who stood up, like, for instance, Booker T,” Glenn asked. “Who’s been writing the history books. Oh, I remember. It’s the progressives. Progressives… Do you know history?”

Touré ends his analysis on a truly hypocritical note, seemingly contradicting the statements he made about creating a culture of dependency. But, then again, apparently that culture is only bad when it is created by a white man:

TOURÉ: …The way you know that Santa isn’t white is because race is fictional. It’s not a biological reality. It’s a sociopolitical construct, existing on the immutability of the race of someone who’s able to tells me you’re afraid of something, afraid perhaps of a black man being a deep part of childhood. But you do know there’s already a generous, benevolent black man in your children’s lives who lives in a place that some people think is magical, who has given something to each and every American, whether they’ve been naughty or nice. You know who I’m talking about.

“He’s doing to people what you said was bad, [what] you said was making people slaves on the welfare state and dependent,” Glenn observed. “I’m sorry. I’m confused.”

“Apparently it’s bad from a white man, but it’s okay from a black man,” Pat clarified. “You’ll accept it then, and you don’t mind their dependency on it.”

Based on his comments, Touré seems to pro-welfare when he supports the president in power and against welfare when he opposed the administration. Ironically, Glenn actually shares some of the same views as Touré – except his opinion is consistent across presidencies.

“We’ve been with you on that: That the Great Society – done by another racist progressive, Johnson – was nothing but a plan to make every black man, every white man a slave. Now that we have another president coming in and doing the same thing, and it doesn’t matter his color. I’m consistent. I’m still saying what you apparently were saying just based on race,” Glenn concluded. “Whether it was Johnson or this president, this whole idea is nothing but a way to enslave people. Whether it enslaves white people or black people doesn’t really matter.”

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    And so the progressives come to the fore again, determined to have their way, and convey their hate-based messages any way possible.

  • landofaahs

    Black Santa or White Santa or Yellow or Brown Santa, they are all made up just like quanza.

  • landofaahs

    Santa lives in China and all his little elves have funny looking eyes. If you doubt me, then look at all the toys and see they have stamped on most of them, “MADE IN CHINA”. ‘Nough said.

  • landofaahs

    Funny; Kris Kringle sounds more German than African. Who’dafiggered.

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    Anymore – yup.

    For the record, we have a con-artist and thief trolling the site, imitating my screen name with a fake one of “snowLEPER (rat folk calgary)”

    Just wanted to give you a heads up.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8FvmesaxXg Sam Fisher

    MSNBC where reality goes to die.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8FvmesaxXg Sam Fisher

    I guess MSNBC will go to any means to race bait. I mean MSNBC should just call it self BSNBC.

  • Anonymous

    Now we’re weighing in on the argument, having to do with the figment of our imaginations, rather if, this non-entity is either black or white.

    Santa must be black, I mean, can anyone imagine a white dude scuttling down a chimney in the hood? Or for that matter, a black dude, dressed in red, carefully making his way down the chimney, in the high dollar estates of highly affluent white America.

    No matter the color of Santa’s skin, he ain’t real anyway, so why bother.

  • Sabido Robles

    Santa works one day a year, sneaks into your house at night, always talking about his ho’s. Besides, who else but a ni99er would wear a red suit?!? Sounds black to me!!!!

  • Anonymous

    There are several theories of a real or mythical person (a 4th century Bishop, the Norse god Odin) who gave rise to the Santa legend. In the end, there have been very nice people of all races thruOut history, but anyone who understands the physics of thrust knows that the speeds necessary to hit all homes in the world in 24 hours would kill any human … so either the Santa story is made up … or Santa is extra-terrestial and able to withstand amazing GForce. Either way, color becomes less of an issue. As for Jesus, I have no doubt he was real, and he was God in human form … what human form he chose is not terribly crucial. As it is, he came as a babe in Israel … and thus was probably somewhere between white and black. Toure has never had anything of intellectual value to say … can we get on to some real news?

  • Fat Lip

    Oh I think he was just a little confused and that’s totally understandable anyone who goes down a chimney is bound to get soot all over and i’m sure this was a confusing thing for dingle bury to figure out but let it go we have many problems that are a lot more pressing.

  • Anonymous

    Diversity just means NO MORE white people.
    Assimilation just means NO MORE white people.
    -
    Diversity is a geNOcidal SCAM!
    Assimilation is a geNOcidal SCAM!
    -
    STOP WHITE geNOcide!

  • Anonymous

    Arguing with people like Toure is like mud wrestling with a PIG. You’re both going to get dirty but the pig likes it.

    In others words, Toure isn’t trying to prove anything. He’s just looking for a fight. He’s a thrill-seeker. He’s trying to position himself into an unbeatable position by getting people to predetermine that if you disagree with him, you’re a racist. And then his need for feeling relevant will be satisfied once he sees his opposition squirm. I will admit that it’s a clever strategy, but this strategy is a mere trick. A spineless one at that.

  • Winston York

    “I’m proud to be Black” said the Black man.

    “I’m proud to be Asian” said the Asian man.

    “I’m proud to be Mexican” said the Mexican man.

    “I’m proud to be White” said the racist.

    Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-white.

  • Hundohan

    Beck proves his reading comprehension is very low. What Toure was doing was a sarcastic take on Kelly’s reasons for being disgusted by the idea of a black santa. When he says Im glad santas black and goes on to say a white santa would only create a construct of dependency that encourages welfare, he was saying this is how she views the results of a black santa. It was a satirical take on how there exists ignorant whites which are repulsed by the idea of their beloved icons, who are portrayed to be white by design rather than historical fact, to be portrayed as someone of color; whether that be black, Asian, latino, or anything other than the “whites only” depiction.

  • Latin2

    Saint Nicholas, was a Greek.

  • Anonymous

    Well if race is an illusion what is Toure going to do with the rest of his life?

  • Anonymous

    Except that’s not what Kelly did.

  • Roderick Bateman

    Canada is 64% Racist and 36% Diverse.
    The U.S. is 62% Racist and 38% Diverse.
    Australia is 69% Racist and 31% Diverse.
    Europe is 82% Racist and 18% Diverse.

    END RACISM NOW!!!
    WE NEED MORE DIVERSITY!!!

    “Anti-racist” is a codeword for anti-white.

  • Anonymous

    I feel that when the blacks don’t have they way or things don’t go their way they scream racism. I am sick of it. I can’t ever remember it being so bad, and I feel that we are so divided because of obama. He has divided this country like never before. There is more to come from obama, he only has three more years to transform America – so he will be working as fast as possible to get the job done. Jesus was Jewish – that is his chosen people – therefore, I believe he was jewish.

  • Hundohan

    So many of you throw this term “race baiting” around because you believe rosa parks ended racism. But if this really is just a case of race baiting, ask yourself why you or they can’t stand the idea of an “ethnic” Santa. He is after all a fictitious character and there should then be no problem with the idea if him being a person of color

  • Hundohan

    The problem here is that there is no black, asian, or Mexican nationalist party preaching why they are superior to those different than themselves. Unfortunately, the phrase white pride is linked to white supremacists who’ve spent well over a century indirectly demonizing whites. During our nations battles with equal rights and racism, many demographics have suffered physically, psychologically, and economically. However, one demographic has been left with their own consequences even though they pale in comparison, and that is the taboo phrases and words that could cause controversy when spoken by a white person

  • Mike Nelson

    Factoids lose relevance when taken out of context.

  • David Sims

    Black logic is defective in some amusing ways. White kids get presents from Santa on Christmas, too, but they don’t grow up to live on welfare. The problem of black moocherism doesn’t come from anything that a white Santa Claus does. It comes, instead, from black genes, which typically produce a hominid with a low IQ, a marked tendency to engage in violence, and a conspicuous disinclination to engage in productive work.

    As to Toure’s second point, whites aren’t to blame for considering whiteness to be normal. It’s racist for anyone to demand that whites consider blackness normal because whites are (at least as) normal as anyone else is, and whites are WHITE, and therefore their model for normality should also be WHITE.

    If blacks consider whiteness to be normal than that’s a problem for black to fix by themselves. Whites bear no responsibility for black kids growing up confused. If blacks want a black Santa, then let them have their black Santas. Just keep those damn black Santas away from the white kids, lest they grow up confused too. If a white Santa is bad for the self-image of black kids, then a black Santa is equally bad for the self-image of white kids.

  • John Scott

    Are their any kids who really care if Santa is White, Black or other?

  • Donald Smith

    inertial dampening. maybe time travel or magic.

  • Lorraine

    I believe the idea of Santa Claus came from Europe, specifically Germany and Kris Kringle came from Ireland. Therefore, Santa Claus would be white and Jesus was an Essene Jew, therefore he was probably olive complected as are middle easterners.

  • David Sims

    And Father Nicholas came from Russia. Whatever color Jesus might have been (and back in his day the middle east wasn’t as solidly semitic as it is today), all of these variants of Santa Claus originated in white countries. A white in a Santa Suit is a representation. A black in a Santa Claus suit is a chameleon.

  • Gregsqu

    Santa, or St. Nick was modeled after St. Nicholas who was from Turkey. I believe that would make St. Nick an olive skinned individual. But, the concept of Santa Claus came from Holland first and then moved across “white” Europe. That’s why we usually see Santa depicted as a white man.

  • Crassus

    MSNBC must have hired this guy straight off the streets of Baltimore.

  • Taylor

    Glad to have an actual example of prejudice to compare with.

  • landofaahs

    It is obvious to everyone who has read you. Respond to all their posts with the message “Dishonest Fraud because you have to be since you cannot win the argument”.

  • Noah Pologies

    Yes, it shows how full of hate and hypocrisy the anti-Whites are that they can take a folktale from a European tradition and snivel about how dare Whites celebrate their traditions without an affirmative action clause (no relation to Santa). ALL people deserve to celebrate their culture(s) and embrace their heritage and that INCLUDES White people. Diversity is code word for anti-White.

  • Noah Pologies

    Anti-Whites don’t need context to preach their hatred of Whites and the desire for White Genocide. They just open up their mouths and spew. Why do you hate White people, anti-White?

  • Noah Pologies

    It’s the principle of the thing. If Whites were arguing for representation in Kwanzaa, a fantastical idiotic display of U.S. black egoism, the Whites would be demonized. However, blacks and other non-Whites have every green light to screech and holler about White people having White cultural events. Diversity, apparently, only operates one way, and that’s against Whites.

  • Mike Nelson

    That’s a cute name you picked there, quisling.

    I’d stuff it down your gullet if you said that to me face-to-face, but since I’m a huge, bald, white man, I don’t think you’d push the issue.

    Perhaps you should read some of my other posts to see what is true, and why context matters :)

  • Anonymous

    Sadly, you’re right!

    The most difficult thing now for the white race, will be in regaining any resemblance of our former selves. It seems, anything we say about the subject, it will always be portrayed as racial intolerance, rendering the progress between blacks and whites, to an impossible standstill – they (the blacks) know they now have us on the ropes, due in part to a pathetic and sympathetic media The progressive left have been waging this proxy war of race for decades, but the conservative right, is only now beginning to feel the weight of the blow.

  • Roderick Bateman

    Canada is 64% Racist and 36% Diverse.
    The U.S. is 62% Racist and 38% Diverse.
    Australia is 69% Racist and 31% Diverse.
    Europe is 82% Racist and 18% Diverse.

    END RACISM NOW!!!
    WE NEED MORE DIVERSITY!!!

    “Anti-racist” is a codeword for anti-white.

  • Nick Rogers

    http://www.history.com/topics/santa-claus….. demographics suggest that the chatacter through which santa claus evolved from is most likely some for of white Caucasian. But, I guess we could erase that history from record to support pregressive agendas. They do with everything else opposing their ideal…..