Glenn takes a deeper look into the troubled life of the UC Santa Barbara killer

On Friday, Elliot Rodger, a 22-year-old student at the University of California, Santa Barbara, went a killing spree that left six dead before he took his own life during a shootout with police. The son of a Hollywood director, Rodger left behind a chilling YouTube video and a 141-page manifesto detailing his plans for a “day of retribution.”

As TheBlaze reported:

The rampage unfolded Friday night when Rodger stabbed to death three victims at his apartment, police said.
He then drove to a sorority home and started to knock for a couple minutes in an “aggressive” manner. When residents inside didn’t answer, Rodger opened fire outside on three individuals, killing two and wounding another, according to authorities.

Rodger then traveled to a nearby restaurant where he shot to death a 20-year-old male, police said. At another location, he brandished a handgun at a female before firing multiple rounds, authorities added.

Eventually deputies confronted Rodger and he hit a bicyclist while fleeing. At one point, police exchanged fire with him, likely shooting him in the hip. As Rodger fled again, the 22-year-old struck another bicyclist, causing him to crash his vehicle and come to a stop, police said.

When police arrived to take him into custody, Rodger appeared dead of an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head, authorities said. Police recovered some 400 rounds of ammunition from his vehicle. All of his weapons, police said, were legally purchased and registered.

As detailed in his so-called manifesto, Rodger was tormented by the fact he was a virgin and had never kissed a girl. He condemned his classmates and peers who he felt looked down at him and treated him poorly. He sought “retribution” on those who he felt had wronged him. He also explained that he found solace in violent video games.

Rodger’s parents were increasingly concerned about their son’s well being, having alerted police to his erratic behavior. According to family attorney Alan Shifman, police interviewed Rodger and found him to be a “perfectly polite, kind and wonderful human.” He added that police did not find a history of guns, but did say Rodger “didn’t have a lot of friends,” had trouble making friends, and didn’t have any girlfriends.

The mainstream media has largely focused on the violence of the incident, but on radio this morning, Glenn took a slightly different approach, taking a deeper look into Rodger’s past and upbringing.

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“I don’t like to make stars out of killers, and I don’t even want to address this kid by his name. I do want to talk about his family… This is a Hollywood cretin. It really is. This is a product of the Hollywood morals gone awry,” Glenn said. “You’ll notice that people are screaming for you got to do something. ‘We got to take these guns off the street.’ He killed as many people with a knife as he did with a gun. Did anybody talk about that? Are we talking about knife control now too? Nope. Because the media has an agenda.”

The gun control narrative has so overtaken this country, and it can often feel as though no one is actually interested in getting to the root cause of the anger and frustration that led to such horrific violence.

“I can’t be the only person on the planet or the only person in America that is worried about his kids,” Glenn said. “And I don’t mean about just them getting shot.”

In his manifesto, Rodger explained that violent video games filled a void in his life starting at a young age.

“He already knew in his manifesto that he was going to point the gun to himself and kill himself. Well, that’s the way you end all video games,” Glenn said. “If you read his manifesto, he speaks about video games and said, ‘I knew at some point, I had crossed a bridge that I could no longer back. A piece of me had died inside.’ Is anybody talking about that? Because this is the conversation we should be having.”

As Glenn and Pat explained, Hollywood chooses to condemn gun violence while still promoting it via movies and video games. Similarly, Rodger’s detailed his sexual frustrations at length, which is interesting given his own father’s work in the industry. As the Daily Mail reported, Rodger’s father Peter sells erotic black and white photography of naked women.

“You can’t have it two ways,” Glenn said. “You say that you can’t have anybody smoking on television or in movies because it effects people. But gun violence is totally fine. You’re also in the business of making all of these video games. The reason why they won’t deal with this is because it points the finger directly to them. And I’m not looking for finger pointing.”

The writings and ramblings of Rodger shows the making of a very troubled young man, and yet no one in the media has had a real conversation about what ultimately created this monster.

“It’s pretty amazing and you’re right, nobody will talk about that,” Pat said. “They are all focusing on: ‘We’ve got to get the guns. Isn’t it time we do something? We got to do something.’”

“I want to show how sick the media is. I mean they really don’t see that the world is changing. That our children are changing… It’s something entirely new. Can we talk about this? We weren’t like this before,” Glenn concluded. “And guns were more prevalent then than they are now. I had access to my grandfather’s guns. They didn’t have them in locked boxes. They were up over the mantle. They were in a rifle case, open. What’s changed?”

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  • Judy De Libera

    I heard the discussion this morning and couldn’t be more in agreement that something mind altering is happening. Our children are becoming killers before our eyes. We’ve had guns forever, so what changed? The rise in psychotropic drugs has also increased with this increase in violence. The media isn’t talking about this at all. In some cases they are trying to hide it. I’d be willing to bet the boy here was on some psychotropic drug. I implore you, Glenn, to go to this site and watch this documentary. http://www.cchr.org/documentaries/the-hidden-enemy.html

  • Wulf

    This story is going to be as bad, or worse, than the Sterling fiasco. The media will keep trotting out various scenarios and gossip. There isn’t always a “lesson” or something to learn.

    An insane person went on a rampage. Insane people have been around for thousands of years.

  • Anonymous

    What I noticed when the father was talking, he never said his son’s thinking was wrong, I didn’t hear any love for his son or sorry for his son coming from his mouth, he was concerned about the people who were shot. Was he concerned because of the trouble it was going to bring on him. I don’ t think he loved his son, and his son felt that, and that is why the boy went looking to others for love. I heard no love coming from the dad for his son. Television shows project the idea that love comes from sex, when in reality you can have sex with someone you love, but sex doesn’t create love. This dad didn’t love his son, he needs to ask himself, when are dad’s like him going to change, and do a better job of parenting.

  • Anonymous

    I am 31 years old and many men my age are playing video games. There are some women out there that are into video games, don’t get me wrong, but it’s a very masculine world per se. I’ve observed some of my friends playing games like grand theft auto and in that game you can shoot an unarmed civilian right in the head and watch blood spout from their bodies. It’s not just that they are desensitized to the game…it’s deeper than that. They are ENJOYING the violent aspects of the game and are high-fiving each other for their violent virtual exploits.
    From what I’m hearing the killer here had misogynistic tendencies because he was rejected by women throughout his life. What I’d tell the reclusive video game nut males of today is this…there are a lot of women out there that are very lonely because the men are busy playing their video games. Put the controller down, go and keep one of them company, treat her like a queen, and she will love you in ways that a video game never will. Just my advice, take it or leave it.

  • Anonymous

    It’s kind of like how Lee Harvey Oswald was a crazy Communist sympathizer who killed the President. Nobody could just accept the fact that one whacko did one bad thing, so the entire media created a counter culture of conspiracy theory that will probably never go away. The truth is so simple and it continues to astound me how people flat out ignore it.

  • Anonymous

    We live in a society whose leadership has become atheistic. The leaders strive to remove God from public view. Of course, the result is young people who have no conscience, which is the communication one has with God. Without it, there is no empathy. Without empathy, there can be no respect for human life. Virtually all mass murderers are atheists, and liberal-progressive Democrats. Ban progressivism and leave guns alone.

  • Boo2

    What’s changed?? For one thing respect! Respect for family, teachers, other people’s property,….And obedience. (Guess ill hear about it using that word!) Obeying those in authority. If its not taught in the home it will not be seen in the child at church, school or in society.
    They want GOD out of everything. And then they run around, wringing their hands and boo-hooing that everything’s going to hell. Well of course it is!
    Read Romans I:20 to the end of the chapter.
    I’ve heard many say that God is love. Yes He is. But He is also a God of judgement which He promises. And the above passage will also show those who say God loves homosexuality that He doesn’t! Believe or dis-believe. Everyone chooses their own way.

  • Anonymous

    The Progressives have the right to spout off their BS at the top of the highest mountain for the world to hear. That right shall be revoked once they start pulling out the sniper rifles and taking people out.

  • Independent Reasoning

    I admit it. I’m in the “business.” My stuff have been on television and in theaters. I remember Frank Capra (look him up folks) telling us the film director had more power than a president, king or sultan. He personally told me it would be good to consider taking responsibility for that power I was being endowed with. That’s what I wanted, my course was set.

    Things changed since those words of advice from Capra. The industry cranked up the sex and violence that little boys pay big bucks for and when the digital revolution hit we learned how to morph all this into the addictive world of violent sexual games. And parents and little boys, who did not know better, brought this stuff right into the private holy of holies in their own homes.

    The third act of a good movie contains the consequence of the hero reaching the goal. And the consequences of this story is now playing out in a third act we all are playing a part in… Hopefully it will not become a franchise.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t blame video games or guns. Something inside a person would have to be dead in order for a person to take an innocent life. I think I would even hesitate taking a life in self defense. I am certain I would be shaking afterwards and feel badly for a long time if I did even though I would be completely justified by nearly any law or standard of morality.
    The issue isn’t guns or video games. The real problem is that people are growing up without a developed moral compass. Video games might make the situation worse, but I am confident a person with a reasonably developed moral compass won’t shed innocent blood no matter how much one plays violent video games.
    Taking a human life is a big deal. I just can’t see how playing video games would push one over the edge unless that person was already at the edge.

  • Matt Bennett

    I’m not surprised to hear that violent video games formed part of this kid’s emotional problems. The video game industry is becoming more violent and amoral in the content produced (mirroring Hollywood’s trends) because it attracts more customers.

    I feel really, really bad for this kid, and worse for his victims and their families.

  • Jeff Collier

    Im not discrediting anything you all say, BUT THERE IS ONE REASON and ONE REASON ONLY. Psychotropic drugs being given to kids like candy. Every mass shooting in the last 20 years has been perpetrated by someone under the care of a “doctor” Riatlin is not a health food. If you kid takes it or anything like it. God help him and you. Tic Tock Tic Tock

  • CL

    What people don’t realize is, that God does not need to punish… sin is its own punishment… sin comes with consequences… this is why God guides us not to sin. God loves, God protects, but His protections can only work when we turn to Him and yes, obey His guidance.

    Loved the part where you say; They want God out of everything, then they wring their hands over what’s gone wrong.

  • Bob Barker

    Two Reasons. Consumed media and psychotropic medication.

    Are violent games a problem? No. Are ADD meds a problem? No. Are they together a problem? Not necessarily. Are kids that have a vivid imagination with anger tendencies that play violent games, watch violent movies or show, read violent stories, view violent tales from others across the internet, and take psychotropic meds a potential concern? Absolutely.

  • ljam

    There are a lot of people to whom these drugs are miracles. Allowing them to function in spite of crippling mental illness or anxiety disorders. That being said, knowing that your child is struggling with a type of mental illness should make you extra vigilant in the video games they play, the movies they watch, the things they obsess over. That being said, monitoring what your kids are doing, and making sure you are helping them build a solid, moral foundation is one of the biggest issues in this country. Lots of kids take drugs for ADHD and other issues…the ones who go to church, participate in wholesome activities (like boy scouts, sports, serving others, etc.) vs. playing violent video games for hours on-end, and have functional, involved families are able to transition just fine. All of these mass-shooters…how involved were their parents? Did they go to church on Sunday? Did they ever have a job or did mommy and daddy just give them everything they wanted to further increase their sense of entitlement? Most of them, to my knowledge, were coddled by their parents, allowed to spend time with violent, explicit video games with no limit or supervision and had no peer group they could relate to….its tragic, but I think we need to look past the drugs, which may definitely be a factor, but they are not the contributing factor, IMHO. It’s the moral decay of our society more than anything else that is causing these tragedies.

  • Jeff Collier

    You are very misinformed. Do you your research before just trying to think through it

  • jesusknight

    This particular generation seems so CONSUMED in self that they don’t see anything else worthy of their attention, so the things the rest of us value like life, liberty, and justice seems far away and unreal to them because it doesn’t seem to CONCERN them personally in their daily living.

    They have no problem giving away their freedoms one at a time, they think ‘who would miss it, I’m not doing anything with it so who cares?’.. and then when something finally hits them in the reality department, they cannot handle it at all and go off the deep end.

    So very sad…. and DANGEROUS.

  • Gail R

    2 things: maybe women didn’t find him attractive, not because he wasn’t good looking enough, but maybe because they knew within seconds that he was CRAZY! I’m LDS, and I know hundreds, thousands of 22 year old virgins. Most are return missionaries, and are proud of it!

  • Jeff Collier

    This kid was seeing a shrink when he was 8. He is a product of Big Pharma

  • jesusknight

    His comments and all seem rather narcissistic to me.. which then I can understand why he went nutz when women for the 100th or 1000th time told him no. Narcissists hate being told ‘no’ and react very badly.

  • ljam

    I’m not misinformed and I have done significant research on this subject. Not every child who has taken Ritalin or other stimulant drugs is a mass-murderer….that being said, the drugs may absolutely be a factor, but they are not the ONLY factor. That is my point. Almost all of these mass-murderers have spent time playing violent video games, they have NO peer group (unless their peers are their partners in these heinous crimes–Columbine). Not disputing that the drugs play a part…sometimes a LARGE part, depending on the child and their background, but there’s more to it than that, IMHO.

  • johnstretton

    You don’t end all video games by pointing a gun and killing yourself. That’s just a ludicrous statement indicating Glenn’s ignorance of the subject. And no different than the liberal hand-wringers who blame guns every time someone dies in a knife fight.

    I will admit that I have not played EVERY violent video game. But I have played a lot. And I cannot point my finger at any game I ever played where the objective was to get to the end and then just kill yourself. Even the ones where you do die at the end are couched as a sacrifice of some sort – where you have to die in order to meet some final game objective. The needs of the many and all that jazz. (Bioshock, I am looking at you.) But nothing where you get to the end and just off yourself. Otherwise – why would you play? (others can feel free to correct me if I missed something.)

    The fact is that this kid was horribly broken. There is no one thing that drove him to do what he did other than his own evil fractured self. No video game drove him to do this (although the video games may have saved the lives of a few innocent cats.) The guns didn’t talk him into it, neither did the knives. He may have misunderstood what the car was trying to tell him, but again – that’s his self, not anything else.

  • Anonymous

    Until children and human life are valued by this society… this will continue.

  • Anonymous

    It is normal for Children to feel severely unwanted when their father abandons them by divorcing their mother. Too many unwanted children become a menace to themselves and society. Divorced Congress men and women has no power to fix the impaired-divorced at-risk children damage expectations except to encourage community meetings between divorced Police, divorced Church leaders, divorced Social workers and divorced Educators.

  • Jeff Collier

    every school shooting ever was a kid on Psych drugs
    Ritalin DOES cause suicidal thoughts. Its one of the side effects. Little regard for life via games with suicidal tendencies and you have Mass Shootings. Your research has failed you. This is simple math

  • johnstretton

    If you can stomach it, take a look at the Post article. The girl that he actually names in the Manifesto as the start of it all barely remembers him, but admits that even then, she thought he was weird. I would imagine you will hear that more often as more people come out to say they “knew him when.”

  • jesusknight

    That is nutz… I am one of them, and I know MANY who were the product of being raised in a situation where their parents are divorced and raised by only the mom. NONE of them have gone on shooting rampages killing innocent girls because they would not go out with them – that is ludicrous to put the blame there. I do not condone divorce, but I do not think its the actual cause of what this kid did.

  • ljam

    I’m not disagreeing with the connection, you are missing my point. It’s NOT just the drugs! It’s the drugs in combination with a activities that desensitize, a feeling of entitlement and NO PEER Group! That is what I am saying…the drug is absolutely a factor, but none of these kids go to church, none of them are involved in any community service, very few of them have jobs, most of them have wealthy or well-off parents who’ve given them this sense of entitlement vs. holding them accountable. We’re going to have to agree to disagree here….

  • http://truthofg.blogspot.com/ Connor Kenway

    As someone who has been playing games since I been fourteen now 27. I can tell in the 13 years since I been playing violence in them have gotten worse. GTA is a perfect example of that. For me I stick with games like Assassin’s Creed which has a very liberty point of view instead of the liberal view of the world like the likes of GTA. For me anyway I enjoy the story line if it has not a good story line if it is all just about mindless violence or propaganda I refuse to go near it. I think you are right and have been taking this advice and talking to a great girl now.

  • Mary Fincik

    The value/sanctity of life has gone. Euthanasia, abortions, executions Nothing complex about it at all.

  • Anonymous

    I whole heartedly agree with you!! Red the package inserts for these drugs, it is all spelled out. And along with the drugs the poor American diet full of chemicals and sugar fuels the same behavior. We are our own worst enemies!!! I just read an article by Kieth Abblow that indicates his parents and his mental health professional sent the police to his home a week before the incident and the police did not do their job. It all could have been prevented!!

  • http://truthofg.blogspot.com/ Connor Kenway

    It all depends on who it is and what it is. I play games since I was 14 and I am nothing like what you said.

  • http://truthofg.blogspot.com/ Connor Kenway

    I am a 27 year old virgin and proud of it. Screw worldly ideas.

  • Kathy Rust

    Whatever perception one has of spirituality, when you connect with that, you realize that you DO control the most important part of your life. When people feel they have no personal control over anything, it can be dangerous. Also, FYI, media in all forms is guilty of convincing people that they should be fitting into some mold. There is a beautiful young woman I know who wishes a good man will pay her some attention…some day.

  • Anonymous

    Who are obsessed with all the ways the world has done him wrong. I know people like that , do you?

  • Sam Boatman

    kind of like obummer………

  • Shawn Cameron

    Seems as though Glenn is trying to have it both ways. I’m about as pro Second Amendment as it gets, it’s the one reason I can never bring myself to vote blue. I own many guns and have never went off on a rampage. I not to long ago bought my son his first BB gun and I am teaching him the responsibility of gun ownership. I also grew up playing video games, and now I enjoy playing them with my son. Now while I enjoy titles like Assassins Creed, Sleeping Dogs and Fable, I don’t allow him to play them. When I play with him we stick to the LEGO series, Madden and Minecraft (which I just don’t get the obsession of). As I said I have never gone on any rampage.

    Blaming video games is no different than blaming guns. Neither of them, nor movies, made this guy what he was. Some people are just f’d up, PERIOD.

  • Emiko Busse

    Really? For once glenn I will highly disagree with you. It is the parents job to make the child understands the difference. I’m 24 and have played video games for a good portion of my life but I know the difference yeah I’m comfortable being lost in the virtual world but I’m still responsible in the real world. People need to stop blaming everything else and actually look at themselves and the human influence around them. Violence doesn’t come from video games or tv necessarily, it comes from the parents teaching right from wrong and having conversations with their kids and actually teaching their kids a lesson. Plus there are a lot of irresponsible parents out there allowing kids to play games they really shouldn’t be. Don’t blame something you truelly don’t understand.

  • Chemist_Geek

    “there are a lot of women out there that are very lonely because the men are busy playing their video games. Put the controller down, go and keep one of them company, treat her like a queen, and she will love you in ways that a video game never will.”

    I disagree.

  • Dena Kelley

    I used to pooh-pooh the idea that video games had anything to do with it. I used to play first person action shooter games on PC and never felt homicidal afterward. Perhaps it’s not the video games themselves, but the fact that some people predisposed to violence are drawn to the video games first and then to really acting it out later. Reversing cause-effect, so to speak. Otherwise how do we explain the millions of kids who don’t turn out to be homicidal killers?

  • Anonymous

    This kid probably has had serious mental health issues his whole life. The way they treated those could have made it worse. He didn’t show up at a therapists office at age 8 because he was totally normal. There was an underlying issue that got him there.

  • Andrew Baskett

    What on earth had video games or his family got to do with any of this. I think it is terribly irresponsible and cruel to judge his family for the influence they had on their son. First, for video games, since they broke out onto the scene in the 1980s (I’ll ignore Atari and just jump to the Nintendo world, violent crimes in this country has fallen dramatically. There is a direct correlation between these two, but if video games are connected to violence, then the entire generation of children who have been raised by them should all be running around a violent, crazed sociopaths. However, that isn’t the case. In fact, in almost every societal measure, today’s kids are better than the generations before: Teen pregnancy is actually at an all time low, 50% lower than in 1950. Cigarettes, alcohol, drug use are all significantly down than at anytime in the last 50 years. 80% of all teenagers have atleast a part time job, a higher ratio than at anytime in the past 50 years. School drop out rates have been cut in half since 1970. So, lets all stop talking about “in my day” and actually look at what its like today…. a much more sober, educated, clean, and child free youth. -Don’t believe me, go look a the CDC, Dept. of Labor, and Education statistics to tell you. As for your comments on his family Mr. Glenn, how dare you judge a family when you have almost nothing to go off of except the rambling of an obviously disturbed child. The parents had already notified the police about their child’s disturbing behavior and had seen his final posting and were racing to the scene to try and stop him as he began. That right there is more than any parent has been shown to do in any of these cases of mass shootings. These situations are terrible, tragic, and sadly, going to keep happening because it is impossible to stop and save every child. It sucks, but thankfully, these incidents are also decreasing as a whole. The only thing that has increased to societies detriment is a news apparatus that didn’t feed off these tragedies and crank out offending hyperbole to drive up ratings.

  • Anonymous

    Some people are just sociopaths. He may have just been predisposed to violent narcissistic behavior. He was able to avoid being locked up through being intelligently persuasive (ie polite) to people. I don’t think he represents any part of society, just himself.

  • Jeff

    Parents aren’t being forced to supply their kids with these games. You make it sound like the freedom of speech is at fault for the erosion of values…

  • Anonymous

    Maybe examination of his mental health records will reveal something. Maybe. But I agree it seems he was a violent sociopath. How can someone say maybe the video games or the gun culture did it, If that were so most of our kids would be violent sociopaths. There was something wrong with him for a long time. He knew to be polite and keep people in the dark until he was ready to reveal himself. He was a cold blooded murderer.

  • Anonymous

    Well…good luck. I see evidence where like 50 something people agree with me and just you don’t. You’re in the minority geek.

  • ronnor

    I had a friend stay a few months last year and his son came to visit. The 14 year old was glued to the game box from early morning until late at night and he played very murderous and brutal games every day and he played 10-15 hours at a stretch, hardly taking time out to eat and in fact ate while playing. I started counting how many people he ‘killed’ in an hours time and extrapolated that number along with the hours played into a number of people he’d killed online. I told the father that he was training a homicidal maniac and he’d better take control of his son’s training time that he was getting from the ‘games’ he was playing. At some point in time its no longer a game but a training session for some of these people, they play the games and yearn for the real thing. I wouldn’t bet against the idea that there are some programers out there putting in subliminal suggestions to murder and then commit suicide. Of all the studies going on and paid for with taxpayer money, why hasn’t some theories been coming out of academia about the long term effect of daily murdering hundreds of people while taking psycho drugs. What games were these murderers playing and what drugs were they taking at the same time, seems like a good start for study and most were in some sort of ‘therapy’ so there is paper work; anyone doing some basic research or did the game business buy them off by contributing to Obama’s reelection campaign.

  • Jared Condon

    Good article mate. Its hard to feel sorry for such a monster but this kid was raised in a sick culture and it led to horrible results. Alot of people have focused on the fact that he was materially well off and that perhaps if he had of lowered his expectations and hadn’t of had such an inflated opinion of himself then he might of “gotten some action.” People are forgetting how this kid was socially located. Just because he is richer than most, in his relative position, he was the “nobody” who could not fulfil the unreasonable material and sexual expectations that society placed on him. His promiscuous dad was successful but distant. He grew up in a town around people like Justin Bieber. He also faced peer rejection and was the target of bullying and must of felt social shame and stigma.

    At the end of the day he was ultimately responsible for what he did but things may have been alot different if he grew up in a healthier culture with more supportive peers.

  • Brad Donald

    And glenn beck goes after video games. When he talks about it for like one paragraph in a 140 page manifesto. Wow dude.

  • Anonymous

    The paragraph indicated that video games were a major part of his life. Glenn cites the killer’s own words. What law are you going to change to make things right for the victims of the knife?

  • Brad Donald

    He said that the video games actually brought some stability in his life in that one and a half paragraph he talked about it. And that it was the only form of socialization he had that kept him level. Beck is not officially a fool creating propaganda to push his own views as fact. Its a freaking joke. When there was 140 pages of other stuff that were far and away more relevant to why this kid was nuts.

  • Pete Draganic

    There is nothing to attribute this child’s behavior to other than mental illness. We cannot rationalize mental illness because it is not rational.

    And… the word should be “affects” not “effects” in this following sentence…

    “You say that you can’t have anybody smoking on television or in movies because it effects people.

  • Brad Donald

    The stuff you are saying they used to say about BOOKS and burned them, Say about music and tried to ban that, about TV shows and MOVIES and tried to band and censor them. And now we are on to blaming video games. The only constant is crazy people. Not the media they digest.

  • Brad Donald

    The stuff you are saying they used to say about BOOKS and burned them,
    Say about music and tried to ban that, about TV shows and MOVIES and
    tried to band and censor them. And now we are on to blaming video games. The only constant is crazy people. Not the media they digest.

    Beck is just as bad as the people that tried to ban other media. The issues tend to be about the home and home life. They retreat into some form of media or hobby as an escape. But if no one ever helps them they just snap. Seems the family was just tossing shrinks at him while they went on about their lives.

  • ronnor

    This wouldn’t have happened to some kid in Wyoming that didn’t have high speed internet. The killers play the games and most take some sort of prescribed drugs, what are the drugs and what were the games they played. Isn’t it possible that there is something really wrong in watching and being involved in murderous ‘games’ that could tip the scales of sanity and make murder look just fine and dandy? Hollywood doesn’t want to hear anything like that and cutting into their bottom line, we’ve all seen and heard of how the constant murdering in Chicago affects the kids, last year there were 512 murders in Chicago and some of the shooters were 11 and 12 years old, trained by the games and gangs, training pays off for a lot of things including murder.

  • Anonymous

    I just looked at the sources you quote, and your numbers are way, way off.

  • Brad Donald

    The stuff you are saying they used to say about BOOKS and burned them,
    Say about music and tried to ban that, about TV shows and MOVIES and
    tried
    to band and censor them. And now we are on to blaming video games. The
    only constant is crazy people. Not the media they digest.

    Beck is just as bad as the people that tried to ban other media. The issues tend to be about the home and home life. They retreat into some form of
    media or hobby as an escape. But if no one ever helps them they just
    snap. Seems the family was just tossing shrinks at him while they went
    on about their lives.

    Look to the family, that just did everything that someone else most likely told them to do and didnt actually parent the kid or talk to him it seems.

  • Brad Donald

    The stuff you are saying they used to say about BOOKS and burned them,
    Say about music and tried to ban that, about TV shows and MOVIES and
    tried
    to band and censor them. And now we are on to blaming video games. The
    only constant is crazy people. Not the media they digest.

    There has always been some scapegoat people try to pin a crazy persons actions on. This kid was just nuts. Violent crime has gone down while games have become more mainstream.

  • Shawn Cameron

    What “stuff that I’m saying” are you talking about? I clearly stated it was not the video games, or movies that are to blame. So it seems we agree.

    Though I even hesitate in blaming the family. I know people who did all they could for a child and they still grew up f’d up. They didn’t go on a massacre mind you, but they were still f’d up.

    You could very well be right, but without knowing for certain, I hesitate to make that conclusion.

  • Diana Shores

    Ritalin is not a psych drug and does not cause suicidal thoughts. There is always the possibility that someone has a negative reaction to it, but it is not the norm. Unless you, personally, have ADHD and have used Ritalin, I do not believe you can make this claim. I have ADHD and have taken it on and off throughout my life, and both of my children have it and have used it. Absolutely no suicidal thoughts were experienced, and actually it does quite the opposite.

  • Diana Shores

    I agree that there are many drugs out there that children probably should not be taking (or adults either, for that matter). But Ritalin is not a psych drug.

  • Anonymous

    The police dept that was called to respond did not do their professional duty to protect.
    Quite frankly perhaps those are the people who need to loose their jobs, or at the very least be trained completely in the manipulative ways of many of those with mental instability.

  • Joe Doe

    I think Glenn may have been trying to say that you get to turn off video games when you’re done playing them, and that offing himself was the closest thing that little freak could find when he was done with his rampage… but Glenn also seems like he may have meant it literally.

    Regardless of what Glenn was trying to say, blaming video games is just as stupid as blaming guns; the guns didn’t kill those people and the games didn’t tell him to do it, either. Let’s not forget all the games that don’t even focus on gory, realistic violence to begin with, of which there are many.

    America: stop looking for a scapegoat and fix your crazy kids.

  • Jay Forkner

    I’m 33 and the games of choice for me are war games and gta… lol I went out one year bought a tv a playstation and gta San Andreas once I beat the game I got rid of the equipment for drugs. I’m now a drug free and proud dad. But guns where never a secret and I was allowed to shoot en growing up, scary movies are funny to me when I go to the theater and everyone else screams or jumps I laugh…. but I’m not about to go out and kill anyone, tho I’d like to run a few people over during rush hour… I’m not going to because when we grew up we got bullied and the walls where not covered in pillows and sports was about winning and honor students got there 15 minutes of fame…. anymore the kids our raised completely different and I believe that’s the root problem. We as parents can’t raise our kids the way they should be thanks to society standards and in the end this is what we get.

  • Andrew Baskett

    If being around violence in video games is so wrong, then no child should ever go hunting with dad and hunt a living thing, gut a living thing. I can only imagine what doing it for real is so much worse for kids

  • Anonymous

    Mental illness? What exactly was he diagnosed with? From what I’ve read, the only specific issue he has is Asperger’s Syndrome, which the Sandy Hook shooter did also. Asperger’s is not classified as a mental illness.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, so much for stability.

  • Shawn Cameron

    The AC series is a favorite of mine (and sorry I prefer Ezio to Connor), and you’re right I how the Templars view and liberal views go hand in hand.

  • Brad Donald

    Yeah it staved off his rampage for a while. And in that while there was plenty of time for an intervention. The family new the kid was unstable since he was 8. From what it looks like so far they just tossed money at him. After they sent the cops to see him. Why did no one in his family go to his house to meet up with the police going there? Or after?

  • Anonymous

    YOU need to read more about the reasoning behind the lowering violent crime rates. Teen pregnancy would be down if more abortions are legal and available. Did you know that the median age in our country is getting older and older, and statistics show that younger people more often commit violent crimes than older people? There are plenty of people I know who should not have passed the 6th grade, yet they’ve graduated because no child will be left behind. Ask a teacher who has been in the field for 30 years and they will tell you that the kids today are definitely different as a whole. I’m only 30 and I can already see how different society is from just 10 years ago.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    The homicide rate was LOWEST in the 1950s for all of the US: http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0873729.html

  • Anonymous

    You must not know what video games actually are, hahahahahahaha. How can you compare real life hunting to shooting prostitutes dead? You’re kidding, right?

  • mike

    No sorry…im not being an apologist, for apology sake…One can NOT blame guns, video games, parents, the music…>columbine<…the media initially called it a "goth" killing….what would this be called?? a yuppie killing? A trust fund baby killing?….Not taking away the guns…you cant blame the N.R.A. You can NOT blame the devil…oR God….My extreme solution to this…Bring back the draft, institute a mandatory 2 years military service at 18…at 20 you then get the "privilege" of going to college..There's your vet health care benefit for 5…there's your education benefit for ten…there you learn a real appreciation for weapons, common team work and leadership abilities, sense of confidence aNd accomplishment…If at the very minimum… this particular person would have been identified and discovered early on, and perhaps helped.. When i was kuwait in 03.. mere days before heading north into the combat zone. My gunner… took all of his medication at once because he was depressed..he was sent back….

  • Anonymous

    I’m just so disappointed that Glenn keeps trotting this out. We get it, you don’t like video games. All the kids who grow up with games just fine and you keep cherry-picking the kids who go nuts and say “there’s something wrong with video games.” No, there’s something wrong with these people, Glenn. I love you, brother, you’re wrong on this one. There are plenty of beneficial things about gaming, it teaches problem solving, some story driven games can instill very good values and concepts, but just like any medium of expression it can be abused. And the talk about e-readers really bugged me too. If an e-reader helps people spend more time reading and makes it easier to carry around books that can be quickly referenced then that’s a great thing! I think maybe I’m a little taken aback by the things you’ve said today, Glenn. It’s not like I’m not gonna listen anymore, but this is a thing we disagree on.

  • Anonymous

    Everyone is predisposed to something, making us all unique cocktails. I have no problem having one drink and stopping whereas others simply cannot control themselves and become alcoholics. Nature versus nurture, personality & temperament differences, it’s all so complicated.

  • Anonymous

    I think you’re right and that’s a HUGE part of it! Selfishness. There’s a huge shift from community to self, and many things get lost in the process.

  • Anonymous

    I am 73 years old. When I was 31, men were forced to be grown up people, and did not have tine for such foolishness.

  • Anonymous

    It starts with bad parenting, and when parents can’t handle the responsibility of parenting they pump their kids full of psychotropic drugs.

    But he was 22 years old, and society can’t force people to take drugs they don’t want to take. He refused treatment. It was his right to refuse treatment.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry Glenn, it’s not my fault the kid snapped. Stop making those who had nothing to do with it feel guilty. And I refuse to give up my right to enjoy a video game now and again. I am capable of acting responsibly and separating reality from fiction.

    You say what you want to say, but you will not shame me in to total guilt. I had nothing to do with that kid.

  • Dena Kelley

    Yeah, I don’t know. I never played this “Grand Theft Auto” game that they discuss so much and have to admit I’d have trouble playing a game where you kill people indiscriminately, or rape people. The FPA games I used to play had clearly defined “bad guys”. Does that matter? I don’t know. Again, I think they have cause and effect reversed- I think it’s that the crazies are more likely to be drawn to playing games like that than that the games turn people into crazies.

  • Anonymous

    I think the root of the problem lies right within the family. Surely, his mother must have known his inner secrets and his mental problem, even before she split with the husband. The father was a no-show. He only knew how to give the young kid MONEY. The police have ZERO intelligence to size up a mental case, even if they are asked to intervene. Now, the progressives will keep harping on the case to ban guns, with full support of the MSM. Their best message was from the father of one of the victims.
    Will the MSM ever talk about drugs, both legal and illegal? How many people die from legal drugs? How many die from illegal drugs? Even this incident, as gory as it is, is a pittance compared to those deaths. The liberal agenda is to take away guns from Americans and they will pursue the case until it happens.

  • David Johnson

    We always had a least 1 loaded shotgun in the house while I was growing up. But we also had Morals, Discipline, & Honor, Oh & Dad’s belt!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Your simple math is wanting. If you consider how many thousands of children are given drugs such as Ritalin and how many of those become violent enough to do mass murders, I’m sure it is a very low percentage. So yes, there are multiple causes of these tragedies.

  • Anonymous

    Good for you. Probably, 99% of all the kids who play these violent games are just like you. It only takes the very few who commit the crimes who get exposure in the news and it all fits into their agenda. Liberals take advantage of these things to promote their hatred of the constitution, even if they have to make some of the crimes up themselves.

  • http://truthofg.blogspot.com/ Connor Kenway

    I choice the name because I am also Native American Connor could of been do so much better. I just got finished with Black Flag.

  • http://truthofg.blogspot.com/ Connor Kenway

    He does not speak for all of us.

  • Anonymous

    I guess you’re entitled to your opinion just like any other person commenting here.

  • jesusknight

    Well, I am an individualist, not into ‘community’ per se.. BUT, if a person values his individuality properly, he should also value it in others; less offense taken for things that don’t mean much and more focus on DOING. But these kids see only what is in front of their nose at any given moment – usually their ipods, phones or computers.
    I am betting there is LOADS more to this story than meets the eye at first glance, but I am also betting no one will say what it REALLY is..

  • http://truthofg.blogspot.com/ Connor Kenway

    But I think everyone is missing the big picture here. It is the mental health system in this country. Yeah the video games did not help at all but the beetles drove Manson to kill as well? Instead of attacking objects we should be going after the main problem getting these people help before the blow.

  • Anonymous

    Divorce in the sense that the family unit breaks down. Maybe most of the kids from broken homes can adjust as long as there is love there for them. But look at the stats of the crimes on the street and you’ll find MOST of those trouble-makers are from broken homes.

  • jesusknight

    Not really selfishness, but more inwardly driven and focused. Many of them can’t ‘see’ beyond their own self at all. This country has risen a whole generation of narcissists who are incapable of dealing with the harsh realities of the real world; How can you be ‘un’ selfish if you CAN’T see outside yourself to the needs of others…

  • http://truthofg.blogspot.com/ Connor Kenway

    It would be like blaming the Beetles for Mason’s killing spree. When are both sides going to realize that blaming objects is not the answer? Oh I thought you would like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1Df8uWWzzo

  • jesusknight

    That’s only because ‘most’ homes these days are ‘broken’. There are not many marriages that last these days. And I mean ‘until death do us part’ lasting, although I do know couples that have been married a while.

    That could be true. Though she worked constantly to feed us 3 kids, we knew our mom loved us very much.

  • jesusknight

    More like narcissism, which is not a mental illness. Tons of folks are ‘infected’ with it these days.

  • jesusknight

    Good question. There is much more here than meets the eye at first glance..

  • http://amenglish.weebly.com AshleyandMicah

    Glenn as a Mormon knows that Mormons have been teaching for years that the root cause of almost all the increases we now see in violence, murder, family deterioration, and so on is pornography and immodest dress- and this story couldn’t prove that point further… Video games? Seriously? This would be like saying reading about Nephi chopping off people’s heads or Ammon chopping off people’s arms enough (Or any other similarly gruesome killings in the scriptures) would desensitize people into killing… You are not considered “a worthy member” if you dress immodest, live immodest, or play with pornography but can play any video game and be fine. Prophets in his church have said (years and years ago) that these very things would happen if we didn’t fix immodest living and pornography- Glenn has a “thing” against video games like liberals have a “thing” against guns and like BYU has a thing against facial hair- all equally illogical… Don’t know of a game out there (even GTA) where killing yourself is even a real possibility let alone a gold standard for “ending games” (but just like liberals sound totally ignorant when talking about guns Glenn sounds talking about video games) In fact he said video games helped him NOT kill for many years- meaning he was struggling before video games even became a part of his life and they did more good than harm- which is in fact what research has shown… I wish Glenn would stop being a liberal looking for one line out of a 100+page manifesto talking about sex, pornography, and women dressing and acting immodest and draw the conclusion that “guns are bad”… oh wait sorry, I meant to say “video games are bad”, the relationship is equally skinny…

  • http://amenglish.weebly.com AshleyandMicah

    Couldn’t agree more…

  • jesusknight

    Bingo!

  • Anonymous

    And no obviously mentally ill people hanging around fantasizing about violence. Same situation here.

  • http://amenglish.weebly.com AshleyandMicah

    Said the same thing…

  • Anonymous

    What were they supposed to do? He was calm, cooperative, and they didn’t have any reason to arrest him. Good sociopathic behavior. Sheriff Deputies are not mental health workers. Even a mental health worker may not have recognized what was going on unless the guy copped to violent fantasies and showed them his videos, etc.

  • Anonymous

    Lots of people are self absorbed but they are not homicidal. Big difference.

  • Anonymous

    He was clearly a narcissistic sociopath. It seems he was very good at hiding his real thoughts until he was ready to reveal himself and go on his killing spree.

  • Brad Donald

    Yeah cause that 140 other pages where he rages at everything else had less impact on his life then the thing he only gave a small blurb too.

  • Anonymous

    I think I read the mom was on her way but he was gone before she got there. Have no idea what she knew or didn’t know about her son’s violent fantasies.

  • jesusknight

    That is true. But the dangerous narcissists are just that. Self absorbed and dangerous when rejected. I’ve known a few personally.

  • Aaron

    Entitlement. Should we add sexual satisfaction and romance to some list
    of basic human rights? This kid thinks so. Yeah, I’m 25, and I’m calling
    him a kid, because he was no man. Where did that come from? I’m not
    gonna throw this one at the parents, because this is a bigger issue.
    Society says “you’re special”. Well, you’re not. Sorry. Teachers say,
    “Work hard, and you’ll be somebody!” Wrong. You have to sacrifice
    everything if you want to be successful. “The nice guy always wins in
    the end.” Not always. Not every hero gets the girl. Hell, look at Luke
    Skywalker. Point is, sometimes life sucks. Bad. Ask IED victims. Ask
    guys who did the right thing, but got sent to jail anyways. Kids aren’t
    taught to cope. You lost? That’s ok, everyone gets a trophy for trying.

  • Brad Donald

    We know the family called the cops to go see him. Then waited days until the day of to go to get him? The story they are telling about racing to try to stop him sounds a bit fiction to me. To do damage control.

  • Glenn Coughlin

    Thank Gdd there is a pu**y like Glenn Coughlin out there to defend the rights of a gun waving, crazy murderer.
    Actually, the two of you have a great deal in common.
    1. You are both weak little college failures.
    2. Neither of you had the guts to serve in the military.
    3. Both of you are alcoholic drug addicts.
    Thank God Glenn Coughlin home schools his children. I would be extremely worried if his children attended a real school. He is only a couple of full moons away from a psychotic killing spree.

  • Sandy

    Thank you Glenn for bringing this out in the open, I too have been pondering how to post something about the violence in movies, video games and even music. They all promote violence. When you look at the ages of these shooters they are under the age of 25, so most of them have had violence shoved in their faces all their lives. Combine that with the lack of responsibility and respect and what do you expect? Remember a gun can only kill when a person pulls the trigger.

  • Sandy

    read my post. It’s just above your post.

  • jesusknight

    There is no cure for narcissism that I have ever heard of. Therapy, yes, but doesn’t work all the time because they think so highly of themselves.

  • Joey Walker

    um gun free zone = kill zone. where do most all happen? I will not enter a gun free zone.

  • jesusknight

    Yes, there are some folks who play games because they enjoy the blood, gore and violence singularly, and PARTICULARLY, from other aspects of said games.
    Most of the time, those guys (and gals) I find totally creepy talking to and try to avoid them. I could never understand the enjoyment of ‘being mean’ for the heck of it.
    I enjoy a good game as well, but more for story lines and things of that nature. I have never played grand theft auto, but I have watched others play it. I didn’t like it myself.

  • Maris

    Amen Glen.

  • raney

    totally agree, Jeff …

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  • jesusknight

    ummm it IS a ‘psycho’stimulant drug… google it. It also CAN cause ‘suicidal ideation’ in certain individuals.

  • jesusknight

    yes it is. a psychostimulant drug, actually.

  • Shawn Cameron

    Yeah I finished it a few weeks ago. I felt the ending was really anticlimactic. It actually surprised me when the credits started rolling, I was like; “That’s it? It’s over??”

  • Anonymous

    Very interesting monologue. I see a change from when I was a kid. Mind you, I am a 71 year old grandmother of four and mother of four. My friends, my three brothers, and I played Cowboys and Indians and Cops and Robbers. We tied each other to trees, pretended to fall dead, fall off our horses, ran everywhere chasing each other. We all had cap guns. While we did this, my father would insist that we did not point our guns directly at each other, even our little finger guns. Dad was a hunter. He was all of his life. Guns actually kill. You do not point guns. You respect life. And, we could pretend in our play. Our parents were on top of everything. Later on there was NO paint ball for my sons. For me things changed with “Clockwork Orange.” The movies became cruel. The Ten Commandments and the Golden Rule faded from our communal lexicon. Our morals, morees (I do not know how to spell this word), and ethics changed.

  • Shawn Cameron

    50 something people makes you a majority? What tiny world do you live in?

  • Judy De Libera

    Here is some math for you. All the mass shooters of recent years (where their medical history is revealed) were on some type of psychotropic drug. It doesn’t happen without them. So, we should stop just giving them out willy nilly to anyone before we really know what the “other” tendencies of these people are.

  • Anonymous

    Right. No parental responsibility whatsoever. The kid was a ward of the state through the psychologist. The father sounds like a total loser.

  • GraceTheLibertarian

    I disagree with Glen on his statements about video games. I started playing violent games when I was around 9 years old, I am 17 now and I love shooting someone in the head in a video game, but I can make the distinction between the game and reality. I would never shoot someone in real life unless it was self defense. That kid had a major reasoning issue, his logic did not work the same as ours, and I believe he was born this way. Anyone in their sane/logical mind can separate the game from reality. Enjoying killing in a game does not mean that person would enjoy killing in real life. Video games are a huge part of our culture today, and only a handful of these kids have brought the game into reality, and started killing actual people, verses the millions of kids who play these games every day and turn out absolutely fine.

  • Judy De Libera

    Also, if my kid has to sit in a classroom with 30 kids and 20 are on one of these drugs, and 19 are “helped” by the drug, but one takes a gun and shoots the rest – does it really matter if the drugs “worked?”

  • Anonymous

    I’m a 43 year old virgin and not ashamed to admit it.

  • DT

    That was something that really stuck with me about the video of him in his car. He was sooooo outraged at being a virgin. It is shameful that he was never taught how special that is…it’s a rare thing in our world and should be viewed as special and beautiful!

  • Anonymous

    Well, that’s not society’s fault and neither is it the video game’s fault. The fault lies in the parents.

  • Christine Dodd

    Actually it’s more like 91 people.

  • GraceTheLibertarian

    The draft takes away citizen’s rights to choose what they want to do with their own bodies. The government should not be able to force anyone in this country to go risk their life and fight for a cause they might not even agree with. You may enjoy being in the military, but there are many people out there who would not enjoy being a part of the military. You cannot FORCE people into doing what you want, simply because you believe it will instill the morals you want into the public.

  • GraceTheLibertarian

    The parents of my generation talk about how spoiled we all are, yet they fail to realize they are the ones that spoiled us in the first place!

  • Christine Dodd

    I agree with you Boo2. I was raised in a Christian family that taught me to show respect towards others regardless of who they are. We are living in the end times Boo and it is going to be much more worse than this. So, I pray to GOD that we both survive this until Jesus returns. I also, could careless what anyone says about my post because I know for a fact that I am going to get a huge backlash about it. I don’t believe we should have guns ever, nor any type of weapon. Basic self defense is all you need. We have so many gun nuts running around is pathetic.

  • GraceTheLibertarian

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYY1E6bJmBE&hd=1

    “Pathological narcissism, originally it was a defense mechanism, intended to shield the narcissist from an injurious world. But as a narcissist turns adult, narcissism and it’s pathology becomes the main source of hurt, the main generator of injuries. It is counter productive and dangerous. Overwhelmed by negative or absolute narcissistic supply, some narcissists are forced to let go of this defense mechanism of narcissism, and they retreat into a land of delusion and fantasy. Even into psychosis.”

  • Jeff Collier

    You shouldn’t comment on that which you know nothing about. I’m a physician and YES Ritalin is a Pscyhotropic Drug

  • Jeff Collier

    I didn’t read all your post – I’m sorry, your drinking the big Pharma Kool Aid and taking meds for a BS diagnosis- you should listen to facts and research and not your DUMB ASS doctor

  • Jeff Collier

    Mind control is no way to raise children

  • http://amenglish.weebly.com AshleyandMicah

    Glenn as a Mormon knows that even his own religion has been teaching for years that the root cause of these increases we now see in violence, murder, family deterioration, and so on is NOT from video games but is from pornography and immodest dress and living which are all currently rampant in today’s society – and this story couldn’t prove that point further… Video games? Seriously? This would be like saying reading about Nephi chopping off people’s heads or Ammon chopping off people’s arms enough (Or any other similarly gruesome killings in the scriptures) would desensitize people into killing in the name of God… To further prove a point you are not considered “a worthy member” of his own faith if you dress immodest, live immodest, or play with pornography BUT can play any video game and still be fine. Prophets in his church have said (years and years ago) that these very things would happen if we didn’t fix immodest living and pornography, they mentioned nothing of video games other then not wasting all your time playing them- they also have said “buy food not ammo”… Glenn has a “thing” against video games like liberals have a “thing” against guns and like BYU has a thing against facial hair- all equally illogical… Don’t know of a game out there (even GTA) where killing yourself is even a real possibility let alone a gold standard for “ending games” (but just like liberals sound totally ignorant when talking about guns Glenn sounds ignorant talking about video games) In fact this killer said video games helped him NOT kill for many years- meaning he was struggling before video games even became a part of his life and they did more good than harm- which is in fact what research has shown… I wish Glenn would stop being a liberal looking for one line out of a 100+page manifesto talking about sex, pornography, and women dressing and acting immodest and draw the conclusion that “guns are bad”… oh wait sorry, I meant to say “video games are bad”, the relationship is equally skinny…

  • Chase

    Every man doing whats right in their own eyes.

  • jesusknight

    If he was an early narcissist (some become that way at an early age), then nothing they would have done later would have mattered to him. It would be interesting to see what he was like as a youngster.

  • GraceTheLibertarian

    There are a lot of lonely people in the world. People playing video games is not the reason. I am a girl and I love playing video games, actually I would rather be playing a video game than keeping a man’s company. But my point is I would not want a guy to give up something he loves just to spend time with me, as I would not give up my games for any man. Video games give people a sense of belonging and peace, you may not think it is good for them, but they feel it is and isn’t how they feel about it all that matters? The shooter explained that video games were the only way he could communicate with the outside world, to me that sounds like video games were his sanctuary, they helped keep him close to humanity for that short period of time. That boy was already mentally disturbed, the video games had nothing to do with his actions during the shooting.

  • Anonymous

    you gotta get real here people. SIN not existing, Families being broken, and ISLAM being present had a lot to do with this kid’s state of mind. The video game is a numbing agent just like drugs, alcohol, sex, and just about any other action a human can develop an endorphine release doing. This kid is dead because his parents bought him off and left him by himself to be influenced by their actions, and the excess of their lifestyle. He’s sex obsessed. Virgin? Probably but molested? Probably too! I’m tired of the censorship position. IF your parents give you a broken materialistic attitude, eventually everyone is objects! This kid killed people like they were objects. His parents should be in jail serving his sentence. They are as guilty as this kid.

  • Heather Jackson Dilios

    It is quite simple…you learn to fly in a flight simulator. You learn to kill in a killing simulator. I don’t see the difference. I agree with you, video games have desensitized an entire generation to killing, to extend violence. Kids are taught to be perpetrators and aggressors and there is no family structure or spiritual structure for balance..as if that’s even achievable in cases like this. It is insane that we put killing simulators in the hands of children whose frontal lobes have not yet begun to mature. Better yet, we give them no ramifications. Instead they get a reset button. And we wonder why they are so damaged.

  • Boo2

    I’ll have to disagree with you Christine on the gun issue. In the hands of law-abiding citizens there is no problem. But in the hands of this boy you see what happens. And he also used a knife on three of the victims. Are they going to outlaw those too? People like Rodger will always find a way to carry out their rage using whatever they can to do their dirty deeds.
    Punishing law-abiding citizens is NOT the answer.

  • norm

    91 > 3. Its called math and statistical sampling.

  • norm

    I’m curious just what it is that you disagree with. Do you not believe that a woman will ‘love you in ways a video game can’t’ if you treat her like a queen? Or do you not believe there are lonely women because their men are obsessed with gaming? If you don’t believe there are “Video Game Widows” out there, well, you’re just not paying attention.

  • zemla

    Dude, another great comment

  • Anonymous

    As soon as this tragedy occurred, I fired off an e-mail to Dianne Feinstein and ask her if she thought we might need to spend a little more money on mental health issues that Americans are facing, and spend a little less on illegal aliens. I eagerly await her reply. (but seriously doubt I’ll get one!!!)

  • GraceTheLibertarian

    I disagree with what she said because I would not want a guy to give up something he loves just to spend time with me, as I would not give up my games for any man. My advice is for those gamer’s to find a girl who would enjoy playing games with him.

  • zemla

    That’s why I still havnt gotten a concealed carry license. Not very “macho” sounding I’m sure but I put a lot of thought into it and I’m not sure I could point a gun at someone , so I think it’s more responsible not to carry one around. If someone thinks they are ready for that, congrats, I’m just not. That’s my compass. Good comment friend.

  • metalhead49424

    That’s a foolish opinion. Do you have any idea how many people play that many hours – if not more – and have never had the urge to kill a real human? I know of one fellow that grew up playing DOOM, Quake, and Mortal Kombat. He is now a well-adjusted, friendly, polite man. And what “psycho drugs” are you talking about? Caffeine and sugar? That’s what most people have during gaming sessions. Yes, some people smoke weed, but I’ve talked to enough people who know about it, and they want nothing more than to relax and have some snacks. If there is a direct correlation between actions in video games and real world applications of those actions, we should be seeing more and more extraordinary athletes with excellent talents because they have done them in video games. Madden 25 (a NFL video game) sold over one million units in its first week, and is part of a franchise that was created in 1988, and has been released yearly since 1990. What we should see, according to your logic, is NFL-ready young adults coming straight of their couches because they have so often done the actions one needs to do to be successful in the NFL. Yet while we have seen many more talented football players in recent years, these young men have been training more or less their whole lives to even get a shot of plain for an NFL team.

    Simply because a young person enjoyed violent video games and also killed people, it does not necessarily mean that the video games drove him or her to the killing. Correlation does not equal causation. To illustrate that popular phrase, here is an interesting fact: as ice cream sales increase, so does the murder rate. Does that mean we should stop selling ice cream? It looks like selling people ice cream causes them to kill people. Now, it has been shown that murder rate increases as the temperature rises, which also influences ice cream sales. I hope that helped you understand the difference between correlation and causation.

  • Anonymous

    It’s freak out time again for the left . . .

    Outlaw Guns!

    Outlaw Knives!

    Outlaw Cars!

    (wow, why did this post get held for approval?)

  • metalhead49424

    And for the vast majority of us for whom violent video games produced not even a single iota of homicidal tendencies?

  • zemla

    “It’s all so complicated”…one of the best lines in this whole discussion. I might add (and this will be tough) but perhaps there isn’t always “a” reason and perhaps we each control less of the world than we think we do, ya know?

  • Guest

    You just deleted my comment? That’s disgusting. So people can only see what you want them to see.

  • GraceTheLibertarian

    I’m getting tired of hearing all this stuff about god. Religion is irrelevant in this story. The only thing I hate about the republican party is their obsessed Christian voters, who have to insert god into every argument they make. I agree with Glen on many things, but when it comes to religion he disappoints me. I am getting tired of him injecting his religious and moral opinionated agenda on here. Taking a story about a mass murderer and turning it into an anti-sexuality and anti-media/video games piece. *Shakes head.*

  • zemla

    Can’t believe you dissed my old jaguar like that! Haha

  • Lisa Roy

    It is not just the guns, (he could easily have accessed illegal ones) or the games, it is the GUTLESS parents who threw money and neglect at him, and the GODLESS Hollywood society he was raised in. His dad sells soft porn and his mom was a serial dater of wealthy influential men. This man cried, literally, many times to his friends and his folks out of his loneliness and confusion. He should have been helped.

  • Lisa Roy

    Not that the ultimate responsibility rests anywhere else but squarely on him. Elliott Rodger was a tragedy, and his decisions were his own. But our minds and decisions are formed from our environment, and influences we choose.

  • Lisa Roy

    Without God, without any degree of moral absolute, then the rights of Elliott Rodger to have some shooting fun are as valid as your rights to expect to walk down a sidewalk without being shot.

  • GraceTheLibertarian

    Some people are just born mentally ill though, and the environment becomes irrelevant. He clearly had narcissism and psychopathy. Jeffery Delmar had a nice family, a loving mother and father, a dog, which he killed, and a nice house. There was nothing in his environment that caused him to enjoy killing. It is born into some people. Genetic mess ups is what I say.

  • Lisa Roy

    This is so true. Many of my friends have single daughters in early 30′s and the dating pool is pretty weak. Drop the games, get into life.

  • GraceTheLibertarian

    I am an atheist and I have my own moral absolutes. One does not need a god to give them morals, non-theistic philosophy works just as well.

  • GraceTheLibertarian

    Some people are just born mentally ill though, and the environment becomes irrelevant. He clearly had narcissism and psychopathy. Jeffery Delmar had a nice family, a loving mother and father, a dog, which he killed, and a nice house. There was nothing in his environment that caused him to enjoy killing. It is born into some people. Genetic mess ups is what I say.

  • norm

    No Jeff, the simple math is that the kids that do this sort of thing are a TINY fraction of the total. If the medications were a major causative factor we would see hundreds of these cases every year, not one or two. The fact is that these people were on the drugs BECAUSE they were damaged, not the other way around. Your logic is like blaming a bandage for the patient bleeding to death.

  • Matt Bennett

    Playing violent video games won’t, of themselves, lead to violence but they do attract an already dysfunctional mind as an escape mechanism from reality. People trying to run from their own conscience and emotional pain will find a convenient escape in the form of low-moral (read: lascivious, crude, and violent) media because it dulls the mind, senses, and moral compass, thereby alleviating their pain. When used as an escape mechanism, violent media becomes part of a vicious cycle leading to emotional ruin, like it did to this kid.

    That’s why I wasn’t surprised to read that violent video games formed a crucial part of his life.

  • Gaby

    Here is another one. Lots of people want babies but not a lot want to raise them. And I mean not just butt parenting(sitting and giving commands with no follow through) I mean living the values and rules themselves. Because I guess parenting is work. In my house I am the parent, my son the child(16) my job is to provide food, shelter, nurturing as well as life lessons. His job, go to school bring home decent grades, learn to be a good person and a there are a few chores. If he holds up his end there are some goodies, games, screen time, cell phone and entertainment for his friends and him. He is slacking they go away until things are up and going again. Not a big deal…as long as you follow through even if it is inconvenient. And that is exactly where some make it work or fail with the parenting. Too many people talking the talk but not walking the walk.

  • Lula

    He said in his manifesto that video games *only* filled the lonely void that he experienced. He never said it was because of video games that he played that got him to come up with his idea. That’s like saying the Game of Thrones Bloody Wedding video that he favorited on his YouTube channel is what caused him to turn violent; it is simply not just one thing we can point a finger at. He played video games because he could become immersed into a whole new world.

    Please read the manifesto, commentors.

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/elliot-rodgers-written-manifesto-is-141-pages-long-and-absolutely-terrifying/

  • norm

    Really? This is like saying everyone that bled to death had a trauma bandage on them so it must have been the fault of the bandage. Do you understand the concept of putting the cart before the horse?

  • norm

    At least you are willing to articulate WHY you disagree – I can respect that. I can relate to your point of view – my wife and I both play online games, though not as much as we used to.

  • David K

    On an even deeper level, why do some kids react in such a way to violent video games while others are able to distinguish the difference between fantasy and reality? (Not that I think kids should play violent video games.) This kid obviously was mentally ill, which means that he takes in, processes, and reacts to stimuli in ways that normal people do not. Mental illness has been around since the dawn of humanity almost, and will not leave us anytime soon. We need to address mental illness, not blame guns, or even video games for that matter, though they contribute. But human behavior will never be predictable. That is something we need to accept. But what we can do is allow people to arm and protect themselves against the insanity. Reacting to insanity by more insanity (i.e. losing our common sense) will do nothing but exacerbate the situation.

    As far as values and morals, society has been in decline for some time, and will continue, and thus should expect more of this. All the more reason to protect ourselves. But please God there will be a rebirth, but it has to start in families. Spouses need to be faithful and love and respect each other, and fathers need to be men and lead. We are losing masculinity and it is creating a monstrous void. The fruit of this void is readily apparent. Strong families means a strong society. We have more broken families than ever before, and that is making all the difference. I say if you truly want to make a difference, love your spouse, love your children, follow your conscience and do what is right. Don’t forsake the values that have made our country what it is. God is at the root of it all.

  • Joanna

    I don’t think giving up gaming is the answer. I believe hobbies such as gaming should be done after life has been lived that day. For example, play video games after the little ones go to bed. Enjoy life with the kids and play when they are sleeping. Go to your friend’s party and play when you get home. Gaming shouldn’t be done at the expense of living. As for “video games had nothing to do with his actions during the shooting.” Well, yes they did. “Videogames give people a sense of belonging and peace; games were the only way he could communicate; they helped keep him close to humanity.” Perhaps he tried to communicate and took the virtual world of gaming to our real world. I would imagine he pretended he was one of his characters in any of his first person shooters. If he was that involved in gaming, the virtual world was his real world.

  • http://amenglish.weebly.com AshleyandMicah

    I posted something over 2 hours ago that hasn’t been approved by Glenn, don’t know why, nothing foul in the entire thing… I guess if you agree with him 99% he will let the 99% posts fly and the 1% die?

  • berne nightingale

    If a person feels alienated from his peers, because he does not live up to their ideal of losing your virginity, and feels rejected by girls, and if his dad sells pornography–as if girls are mere objects—THEN if these video games is his sanctuary and his release button, how wise is it to argue that his thought patterns about killing wont change?That is not a chance I will take with my son’s view of the world.I believe guns should have strict licensing laws, but to claim that guns causes violence, is like blaming chewing for obesity–the cause is so much deeper than that.The question is not about the video games either, but about the fact that so many young people loses their connection to people and rather isolates themselves playing violent games.Bullying at school and the very fact that kids isolate those who they do not think “cool” should be adressed in the way we raise our own kids–Kindness to humans and animals are learnt at home, except if the child is maybe really born a sociopath–which I am doubtful about. We do get shaped ny what we do and learn in childhood.

  • Joanna

    I don’t think anyone should give up any hobby. I do believe that hobbies should be done after life has been lived that day. Go out to dinner then play when you get home. Gaming becomes out of hand when one rejects the dinner invitation to stay home and play. If that is done consistently, that is a red flag. My husband is a gamer. I want to play with him, but he is too skilled to play with me. His gaming is done when the little ones go to bed. This is a perfect compromise between us. I would never want him to give up his gaming.

  • DFoote

    What has changed is that our children are being raised by Hollywood! Violence is everywhere, tv, movies, and video games. You can’t escape it. And they market this violence to children. If a child acts up, we give them a pill to calm them down. If someone is deemed depressed or sad or misunderstood they are given a pill. Maybe getting these people the help they need instead of handing them a pill would be a great deal more helpful to that person. Back to Hollywood, if they are so concerned about violence and guns, then why do they make so many violent movies? And why would ANY intelligent parent allow their children to watch these types of movies? People need to stop blaming everyone else for their children’s behavior and start taking responsibility for how their children are growing up. Turn off the tv, take away the video games and force them to use their imaginations, force yourselves to spend time with them. If you wanted children, then stop and raise them yourselves and stop expecting the schools and the so called village to raise them.
    What made me sickest about this kid’s death is that the father never apologized but used his son’s actions and death to push his anti gun agenda…while making movies about children killing children! Hypocrite!

  • Barnara Apon

    This is so true…reading my tablet just since last Oct. when I got…I have had headaches.. I’ve never had headaches before and my thinking has changed..my thought patterns are not on track …it’s as my thinking has slowed down…a dullnest always in my head….so I have turned to move video or radio…because I can listen..and that does not seem to bother my brain (waves)…for the lack of a better word….Is anyone else having this or something similar happing to them?

  • Anonymous

    I think there is plenty of blame to spread around here. Glenn is right that the Hollywood people don’t want to have to look at the effect that their products are having on the culture at large. Their search for more sensationalism is driven by their need to make more money. Same with the video games. But at the same time you have a crowd of people who keep preaching that the gun is the ultimate symbol of male empowerment. Underneath it all we have a culture that has no underlying set of values beyond making money. we all sell our souls for money every day.

  • Brent

    That would be a great solution, except the ratio of men to women that are serious gamers are like 1-10,000. When a man finally finds a gamer girl that is interested in him he is lucky, and all his friends will be envious, because they probably wont ever find one.

  • GraceTheLibertarian

    Anyone with a sane logical mind can separate a game from reality. He was obviously born with a mental illness, probably narcissism that turned into psychopathy. He was a unique case, if the game did effect him and his decisions, it is because he was not right in the head. Many normal people can play violent games and would never even think about shooting anyone in real life. You can’t blame the game for some psycho’s interpretation. Reminds me of another comment I saw, I forgot who said this sorry for taking your quote but it is just like people blaming the Beatles for writing Helter Skelter because Manson was a nutball and ended up murdering several people because the song gave him a “message.”

  • Brian Davies

    So this kid showed signs of distress and certainly entitlement – maybe they should have raised their kid better – instead of trying to take my rights away, now that they screwed that up. He was a producer/director’s son, driving a BMW – I think he was probably taught his whole life that he deserves more than anyone else – and his mental problems just caused that thought to express itself in tragedy.

    My comment is pure speculation ….. it just seems more likely than not that he was raised in an atmosphere of “getting whatever he wants” ….. and like so many of today’s youth ….. when you don’t have to actually work for something ….. you think you’re owed everything.

  • Mike Nelson

    You’re right, in 1969 it was Woodstock or Apollo, Vietnam or Canada, LBJ or Nixon, and Philip K. Dick and R.A. Heinlein were maligned for their visions of science in fiction.

    I get your position, and even agree, but this statement of condemnation won’t touch most of the people who could benefit from your perspective.

    Just as “engines” were foolishness, and “flying machines” were a waste of time, and “moving pictures” were a frivolous entertainment, “video games” have already borne fruit. Whether you like that fruit or not, well, that’s your vision, but flight simulators have trained the most skilled pilots our world has to offer.

    Science, fiction, gaming, political tools, and culture… all in one.

  • GraceTheLibertarian

    I’m pretty sure he was a narcissist who turned into a psychopath, a narcissist thinks they are the best at everything, and they think they deserve everything. And when they finally realize they did nothing to deserve anything they have, and when they get rejected often, it can break a narcissist and turn them delusional. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYY1E6bJmBE&hd=1

  • Cindy Dreibelbis

    First of all he was a Santa Barbara City College student. This is where kids go that can’t get accepted to UCSB. 2) Parents divorced. 3) in therapy since the age of 8. 4) stopped taking his ‘meds’ when he became an ‘adult’ at age 18. When the police (remember these guys do not have degrees in psychology) found him to be ‘nice and polite’ the PARENTS who KNEW he was a time-bomb should have taken action with the therapist and had him committed. When are PARENTS, who made the CHOICE to bring kids into this world, going to stop passing the responsibility to teachers,police,therapist,and care givers? As with Adam Lantz (Sandy Hook)…his mom knew he worshipped serial killers (posters all over his walls)…yet she bought firearms and knew he had access. This was NOT a gun issue. This was a mental health issue and PARENTS dropping the ball.

  • https://www.facebook.com/DefiantCrime UnwantedFoe

    Umm, no (in part)… lack of parenting, poor parenting and/or certain mental disorders have proven long before video games to be the primary source for behavior like this. Blaming video games (which there has been no definitive correlation to increasing violent tendencies) is not going to get us anywhere. Humans are by our very nature, violent… its how we are raised which helps temper our emotions with either wisdom or carelessness. Be a role model for your child by being the best person you can be, instead of blaming outside sources.

    Other than that, I agree with a lot of Glenn’s words

  • http://alejandromorante.blogspot.ca Alejandro Morante

    There are too many issues that seem to have a different solution than the ones proposed by authorities or the media in many cases. One has to wonder why? whats the hidden agenda of all? for example the war on drugs that sees millions of dollars spent in Mexico and thousands of lives when the issue seems to me very simple economics, supply and demand; by going after the supply we will never solve anything. Economics (basic one) suggest that we must lower the demand, but how do we do it if we don’t want to look in the mirror, if we don’t spend near enough money in this, to answer the simple question, why is it that our society demands so much drugs? why not look for that answer? no idea. why not spend millions on lowering rather than fighting the supply? no idea. Same here with this topic, same idea, forgetting the obvious, the evident, why? no idea.

  • Mike Nelson

    As a 41yo dude I’ve grown quite a filter for taking notice of conspicuous commentary. I give you ^ for this sentiment, but I see the other posts you’ve made, and I’m curious… how did a 17yo gamer chick end up on GBs forums? :o

    Much of what your other posts say makes sense to me… so much so that (pardon my skepticism) I wonder if you are, indeed a 17yo gamer chick. Brand new account, comments only in this thread, no mad 1337 txtn skillz and perfect grammar… it makes me wonder.

    Just asking in pursuit of my own due diligence, and in curiosity as to why you have separated yourself so conspicuously from what I perceive as assumed generational tendencies and behavior.

  • Shawn Cameron

    LMAO Math and statistical sampling? How many people have hit this page vs how many voted his comment up. I for one didn’t vote it either way. I’m sure others here didn’t.
    I mean if you look at the top of the page you’ll see this page has 4,409 FB likes at the time I’m writing this. So according to your logic 4,409 > 91.

    Then you also have to consider that websites such as this, the vast majority of visitors tend to be like minded. That alone taints the sample.

    But hey 176 comments at this time 91 would be the majority of that. So if you want to claim being in the majority of 150 or so people who have posted on this one article on Glenn Becks website (176 comments a few people have posted more than once so I’m just pulling 150 out of the air), then ok, you’re in the majority.

    So what? Doesn’t correlate to you being correct.

  • Templar

    Okay, Used to be a fan… You are behind the curve a lot… But at least you used to get attention to subjects that need eyes on them (Van Jones, John Holdren, Kathleen Sebilius, multiple others the godfather, Soros). Recently you sold you out completely, Case and point Cliven Bundy, and now attacking gamers as what… no brainer/sociopaths? You are the worst kind of socialist Glenn Beck, the one who isn’t even in it for the idealistic utopian lies, but the money alone. If you think that those of us who have a brain in our head don’t know you sold out to the globalists you are losing your edge. I hope your research team has enough “Twinkies Going out of business stories” that you can get a pass… As far as I am concerned you are a traitor to Americans, and more importantly God.

    As for this pathetic argument below, Men play video games often because games are developed around a male stereo type where he can be the winner/victor/bacon-maker. My wife and I play games quite often, sometimes we lose sleep over it, we debate about it, we theorycraft around it, we dish on the latest news. We have an awesome relationship! The dating issue of the “30 year old end of the pool” is so deep because they are liberal loons hell bent on taking every iota of male dominance away… not always but on average… the feminists movement has a lot to do with that.

    Violent video games don’t make people anymore violent than public schools make people anymore educated. The techniques portrayed in video games if anything make the authoritative figures lives easier knowing that …. the crook will hold the 45 glock sideways …. GTA is no better at making criminals than Common Core is at making physicist.

  • Michael

    Did you just take the gun issue and try and make it a video game issue? Just lost a bit of respect from me. and I liked you alot. I’ve played video games all of my life, and I am fine, socialize at church and stay out of trouble. Don’t blame a video game for the lack of parenting. Telling people to not let there kids play video games is just the same as liberals telling you not to own a gun. Don’t substitute one tyranny for another.

  • Shawn Cameron

    He’s condemning the left for blaming guns (which he should be). But in the very next breath he’s saying it’s those damn video games and movies..

    Hypocritical to say the least.

  • GraceTheLibertarian

    Well, I’ve always been interested in politics even at a young age, and a friend of mine told me about Glenn and his tv show/website. I don’t usually comment on any of the stories I read here or on the blaze, but after watching this video I felt a need to speak my opinion, since I’ve been reading a lot about this Elliot guy and it interested me. So I randomly created the account tonight. As for the grammar, I prefer speaking/typing this way, barely spelling out words to the point where it is not English anymore really annoys me, I’ve written this way since I was around 14. I believe everyone is an individual, and I do not like to generalize the generations of people, as we are all different. Even the ones who try to be what society wants them to be, there is something they are hiding that makes them unique. (:

  • Mike Nelson

    OK, I’ll take you face value – thanks for the response.

  • GraceTheLibertarian

    Thank you, I take it as a compliment that you thought I was older than 17.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe just one of the Stupid reasons the media won’t touch this is because the dad’s got Money and he’s a democrat……
    Also if this murdering fool ever actually Said to a female “I’m magnificent.”….No wonder he didn’t have any girlriends !
    That is Very Creepy !!
    What a sad spectacle he made of himself !

  • Anonymous

    I agree! I was also distraught by the fact that as a child he had to turn to video games when he should have been able to turn to his parents. We need to teach our children communication and socialization skills. Play board games with the children, read books to them, take them to the park! I am afraid so many children have a distorted sense of reality.

  • Anonymous

    I think the whole point of the original comment was about the young man who admitted he turned to video games for solace instead of people. Having a shared interest in games is great if you are not substituting the games for an actual relationship.

  • Anonymous

    Rodgers explains in his manifesto that video games filled a void in his life at a very young age. I doubt he was born with a mental illness. Rather, there was missing in his life some emotional connection with people, whether it was his parents, peers at school. That is why he acted out in what he described as “retribution”.

  • Aaron

    “He killed as many people with a knife as he did with a gun.” He also shot 8 others along with the three that he killed with a gun. Most of whom are still in the hospital, a couple in critical condition. It also could have been much, much worse. He had purchased a total of three handguns from three different federally licensed gun shops, as well as over 500 rounds of ammunition. If the police in the area did not react as quickly as they did, which I am incredibly thankful for, this tragedy could have been even worse. Did you know that he shot and killed those three people and injured a total of 13 more people, 8 of those being gunshot wounds, in a time period of less than 10 minutes? How was he able to do that? Because of the firearms he had acquired. Do you really think for a minute that he would have been able to cause that much damage running around with a knife? Absolutely not.

  • GraceTheLibertarian

    Actually, mental illnesses can be created by the parents. If you listen to this, he explains the different causes of narcissism, the main reason is a parent who spoils their child, gives them everything they want, the child then believes it deserves all of these things, without working for them. So he might have been born normal, and his parents shaped him into the narcissist he became. There definitely was a mental illness there, no way to tell if it was naturally born in him or developed over the years.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYY1E6bJmBE&hd=1

  • Stacey Mehaffey Rawlings

    I’m sure you had something you did to decompress or wind down. for some it’s video games, for some it is cooking, for some it is reading. For me, it’s painting and I have always been told by family it’s a waste of time and “foolishness”. I enjoy it so I don’t care. I am sure you did things that were “foolish” in someone’s eyes. Don’t be so judgmental.

  • Barbara Sauseda

    I agree, it seems so many should be grown ups are acting like children, doing things that make them seem so immature….they need to ” decompress”. What about they need to take care of themselves and their families? Grown ups should be grown ups.

  • Barbara Sauseda

    And I should say, here in our house we call the video games “killing games”. I’m not talking about hobbies like painting….I’m talking about decompressing by hurting others….that is NOT decompressing.

  • Anonymous

    You’ve nailed it. Great comment.

  • Anonymous

    It doesn’t really matter to me. I only responded originally because the person said “I disagree” and that was it…

  • Anonymous

    Nothing in my original comment implies any true disagreement with what you’ve said here. Have a nice day. I have nothing to argue with you about.

  • Anonymous

    You’re really thinking too hard about it. I’m going to apologize to you for pointing it out in the first place because now I feel narcissistic. I’m interested in your opinion of the CONTENT of my original comment. If you disagree, then keep it in the arena of ideas.

  • Todd A Scheller

    So why does Asperger’s Syndrome appear in the DSM-5 under Autism Spectrum Disorders?

  • Anonymous

    You must admit the decompression was more contributive than destructive, and did not become addictions.

  • Todd A Scheller

    Narcissistic personality disorder is found in the DSM-5.

  • Todd A Scheller

    Rodger’s killed three people wit a gun and three people with a hammer and knife. Are you next going to suggest that we ban hammers and knives?

  • Cindy Shipley

    Another part of the agenda that you fail to address, Glenn, is that there are families like this kid’s who are concerned about a family member who is acting erratic. They called, the police came and concluded there was nothing wrong. Where is a family to go and what should they do if they are worried about the potential actions of a family member? There are disturbed people among us. Not all of them are armed and will kill people, but when warning signs are there, what can concerned friends and famiy members do ?

  • Cindy Shipley

    I’m older. I like video games, too. A lot. But I find that what they give me is a substitute for real successes elsewhere. Eventually I have to give up a game entirely because I have become so addicted to it that I want to play every time I sit down. I hope your life isn’t like that, Grace. I hope you are finding lots of real world talents to develop as well as your mad gamer skills. It isn’t an easy thing to learn the social skills necessary to succeed in life. (I really struggled with that as a teen.) I admire the kids of your generation that are able to succeed at school and develop musically or athletically or in other ways when there is such addictive entertainment constantly available. I don’t know if I’d have done as well.

  • Nate Wright

    he is a mkulra babbie just like all the rest ot the shooter lately… come givme a break his father makes movies there isnt a aspiring actress tha would do him for a chance to meet his dad no mater ho weird he was , this one proves it more than any.. why because he stabeed to kill using a gun to kill is a whole different ballgame then stabbing sme one it is wa more eprsonel and i dont care how many games he played nothing is like stabbing or slashing flesh people that have do it have trouble peopel that are trained to do still cant handle it he was a brainwashed babynot just this go look where his faathers from and birthdays all add up to the the illumsniti numbers game his dads from newtownthis is one more step in there agenda they cant get people behind the mental threat with veterns ptsd and now they control the health insurance so we can see just all who have been treated for depression ever little kid that has been treat for the fake mind you adhd will never be able to own a gun when he gts older this is a hoax a painful one but still a hox

  • “G”willekkers

    Personally, the first thing I thought of when I saw his YouTube video was that he had an overly developed love for himself. He talked about himself and what he didn’t have the entire video and how it was someone else’s fault that he didn’t have what he wanted. All while sitting in a car most of us only dream about. Going to a school in an upscale community. Wearing designer clothes. I would be willing to bet he got trophies for showing up his entire life. I saw nothing earned, but everything expected. We seriously need to go back to the teaching of responsibility. I fear we are raising a lot of children this way. Someone clearly told him that he was wonderful simply because he existed. I believe that about my own children, but they were never showered with everything that could be afforded. They learned how to earn things and wait for things. Instant gratification is fleeting….. the real things in life take hard work and patience. They have more value because of it.

  • Jeff Collier

    NOT EVEN FREAKIN CLOSE. The Columbine kids for example were not therapy boys who were “damaged” – They were drugged at a young age to do better in school and became bad. You really should look at more data before using silly bandaid analogies

  • conservativo .

    We have an epidemic of narcissism and lack of empathy. It really is that simple. And the media- music, television, movies, video games- all promote it. We have adopted a cultural attitude that believes that making money and buying things is how you provide for your family. So, we have kids growing up with plenty of stuff but no guidance. Essentially, they have freedom and means but no sense of responsibility towards themselves or others. Unless this changes, our society will continue to become more and more violent and destructive- until, ultimately, someone will decide that we cannot handle the freedoms and means that we have now and take them away from us. Unfortunately, there are many who don’t want to take that responsibility and are happy to vote away all of our freedom in order to avoid doing so.

  • Anonymous

    Happy to hear your parents did a good job keeping you safe, wanted and purposeful. Unfortunately your good experience is not shared by all children of absentee fathers.

  • ThorsteinVeblen2012

    This punk listed two of Glenn Beck’s books on his Facebook.

    Glenn shouldn’t you address your own link to this punk’s worldview?

  • http://truthofg.blogspot.com/ Connor Kenway

    I do not get it I would trade in all of my possessions just for a good decent woman by my side. They seem to be a dying breed nowadays good human beings.

  • http://truthofg.blogspot.com/ Connor Kenway

    He also subscribe to the Young Turks youtube channel as well should we tar and feather them as well? Please do pretend to care and use the deaths of six people as a political weapon. I know it is so hard for you blood sucking liberals to act like human beings every time something like this happens but please try it some time.

  • Pretty in Papers

    If you honestly believe that having Aspergers can’t drive someone to do something like this, you are so sadly mistaken and mislead by the autism activists! I hate when people say ” oh, your kids have the better form of autism”…no they don’t! They know far too well they are different from everyone else! They know people don’t accept them the same! They get depressed, angry and eventually they lose it! Quit turning your backs to this people! Aspergers depression and anger is real and this won’t stop until people (mainly the beloved autism activists) open their eyes and start helping these young people deal with the horrible social issues they deal with daily!!!! http://www.aspergershelpline.com

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  • Sam

    Jesus. Lead these people to Jesus. The local church is letting down the world. Go out and tell somebody about Jesus and how He saved you. That would solve a whole lot of problems.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you zemla. You can tell by all the Liberal haters lol.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve always admired women because you are all WAY less shallow than men when it comes to looks and relationships. I would say that at least 80 to 90 percent of younger guys could have just about any girl they wanted if they just interacted with them and got to know them. Am I wrong to say that looks don’t matter, since any self-respecting woman can dump her “hot” boyfriend and get a replacement just about any time they want if he acts up (because you are all so BEAUTIFUL!).

  • Anonymous

    I did not make it to 27, not even close. I got married at 21 and was sexually active WAY before that. Today, I regret that a LOT! I always look up to my grandfather who only made love to my grandma for 53 years before his death. 53 years of loyalty to ONE woman! I will never be able to say that I did something that wonderful in my life.

  • Anonymous

    My above comment to Connor Kenway is for you too. Way to be.

  • jesusknight

    The ‘borderline’ narcissistic personality disorder should be. It can be treated with drugs/therapy, etc. with a modicum of success. But the narcissistic personality ‘disorder’ that is psychotic is a product of the psych – a part of WHO and WHAT a person actually IS; its not really treatable, unless you want to put them thru major behavioral modification techniques. Even that does not always help.

  • Anonymous

    Tell me all of the ways that violent video games have ever saved even one life, or had any kind of a positive influence on anyone (with the sole exception of the fact that shooter games are effective in teaching military marksmanship, I’ll concede to that one).
    I’m not going to criticize your premise or opinion, it’s just that while you may be able to downplay the significance of the violence in video games, I have to say there is nothing beneficial in them to anyone, anywhere, at any time. No politics, no morals, no shout at the mountain top sophistry can deny this.

  • Anonymous

    Jeff, just produce the statistic saying what percentage of the users of these drugs go on to commit violent crimes, and your premise will be impossible to argue against.
    I would estimate that a handful out of several million would be an approximation.

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps you have a life and don’t have time to argue with everybody here, but show us a more articulate expression of what you know as a physician. If the people in this thread are misinformed, then please, inform them.

  • Anonymous

    Glenn has no idea who you are. He also didn’t propose any legislation to ban games. Sure, you can make a case that he’s BLAMING the video games…but he’s not making the case to BAN them. I could be totally wrong, quote him here for me…

  • Anonymous

    It’s not the games themselves…it’s the reclusiveness that they can cause. Video games are like alcohol, some people can handle them and some people are completely incapable of self-control.

  • Anonymous

    Andrew, are you equating the hunting of animals with the hunting of people? Because it sure seems like you are…

  • http://truthofg.blogspot.com/ Connor Kenway

    Well it does not matter now only matters where you are with God. A friend of mines struggles with not waiting and when she became a Christian it gotten worse any advise you got for her?

  • GraceTheLibertarian

    “there are a lot of women out there that are very lonely because the men are busy playing their video games. Put the controller down, go and keep one of them company, treat her like a queen, and she will love you in ways that a video game never will. ” This is the part that I disagreed with. No one should be forced to put down their controller for anyone else. It is their life and their choice what makes them happy. That is all.

  • GraceTheLibertarian

    My step father had aspergers and he was completely normal, his only issue was he was not very social and you had to initiate the conversation, but he was very smart, could multiple a 10 digit number by a 15 digit number in his head. The shooter may have had aspergers aswell, but I also believe his parents installed in him some very strong narcissistic personality traits. The narcissism was his downfall, not the aspergers. If he was only shy, he would have taken being alone differently, adding narcissism to an anti-social disorder is very dangerous, because as we can see, he believes he deserves friends and lovers without having to work for them.

  • Pretty in Papers

    I know not ALL people with Aspergers will turn out violent, etc. I just know from my own son and others that reach out to me on a daily basis through the website, how misunderstood these teens and young adults are. I have kids begging me for help, but they can’t find it! My son went through YEARS of plotting “revenge” on someone who harmed him when he was 12…if I hadn’t watched him like a HAWK, he just may have found a way to carry that out! He is 20 now and helps advocate for these kids who feel isolated, angry and depressed. I have seen how bad it can get…and everyone just seems to ignore it!

  • Pretty in Papers

    Oh, and YES…these kids are extremely intelligent!!!! My 20 year old is a walking encyclopedia, as is my 8 year old who also has it. (I now home school the 8 year old so he NEVER has to go through what my older son went through!) I could tell stories!

  • Whitney Crawley

    So, what you’re saying is – don’t take away the guns from law-abiding citizens because a few nuts misuse them….but definitely limit free speech and expression because a few individuals SOMETIME use virtual/fictional violence as inspiration…when most individuals that play such games are, in fact, law abiding citizens themselves.

    Most people who play violent video games and watch violent movies understand the fictional aspect of it and don’t go on shooting rampages. MOST. MOST. MOST. That’s why these things don’t happen every single day.

    Both sides of this argument are crying for the limitation of SOME KIND of freedom.

  • Anonymous

    Blame the ACLU! They think that the crazies (like this one) have the right to live free until they kill. Then all the Progressives blame the NRA and guns — not their buddies over at the ACLU..

  • Richard C. Skola

    Your comment was short, to the point, and I agree.

  • Anonymous

    I hope that one lonely dude reads that as a pep talk and turns his life around. It’s not about the video games, it’s about the self control. By the way, every video game on this earth is completely lame compared to real life.

  • Anonymous

    I think you should give that friend some advice. Sounds like maybe she needs you.

  • Steve Leitelt

    I hope you realize that World Of Warcraft is NOT a violent video game at all. It is a game that keeps you hooked, by wanting to do better and better and it gives you a challenge.

  • http://punditfight.com/ American Pundit Fighting

    This is what’s so tricky about the issue. People aren’t willing to concede anything because they feel they are in the rational majority.

  • http://truthofg.blogspot.com/ Connor Kenway

    I need her to after all the hell of this week of a family member dying I could use the company.

  • Grandma in Illinois

    The video games, violence on TV and in the movies, the way love and marriage have disintegrated are all just part of the problem. I believe the source of the problem is the growing lack of reverence for life. I think ever since kids have see abortion grow and grow and people no longer looking on life as a gift from God, they feel more empowered to do what they want with their own or even other peoples lives. Isn’t that what abortion is doing?

  • http://30homegames.blogspot.com.au/p/blog-page.html 30HomeGames

    The Flight simulator has taught you how to fly, now how does one go about accessing an aircraft? The Killing simulator has taught you how to kill, now how does one go about accessing a killing instrument?
    Of course there are proper avenues to learn how to use these things for Real World use. In these cases, you’re probably still going to use a simulator. Afterall this is how VideoGames started in the first place. In many ways Videogames and movies are what’s inspired the younger generation to enter the Military and Law enforcement. Conversely, possibly a life of crime.

  • mike

    not implying that we need to force anyone into any set of morals… there are pLeNtY of examples of people in the military that have wEnt LoOney…ex:ft hood shooter wAs an OfFicer…a freakin mAJor!! not to mention a grenade being chucked into a t.c.p. when i was in iraq…were you in the military at aLL? besides if thats the way you view “the draft” then you have every right to do so…You believe it takes away peoples rights?? I would suggest church and religion do that enough already…I choose to look at the possibility as empowering…Personally for me after high school, i was fairly excited at the prospect. i joined, served, volunteered…im suggesting..perhaps…maybe a little tiny dose of a reality check, what? you wouldn’t want to take a two week confidence, and moral boosting course?? or would you prefer a two week jesus camp?

  • Peeta Mellark

    Each of us must reject the despot’s designs for desolation and tyranny: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0094KY878

  • GraceTheLibertarian

    I disagree with that last statement. Video games give you the ability to do things you could not in real life, like fly, shoot fireballs from your hands or cast magical spells and such that would not exist in the real world. The real world is boring compared to any of that. But that is just my opinion. Neither of us can be right as they are just subjective opinions.

  • GraceTheLibertarian

    If I have or have not been in the military is irrelevant. And I agree with you that religion does take away rights, and that is why religion should be separate from state affairs. Reality check? I am in reality, and I would hate being in the military, I do not take orders or authority well, when someone tries to tell me what to do, I usually do the opposite. And no, I do not need a two week moral indoctrination course, what you are suggesting is exactly the same as Jesus camp, it is a camp where they instill their moral beliefs into you. I have my own beliefs and I do not need their help. The draft FORCES people into taking these “moral boosting” classes, so this means the people are not only forced to risk their lives, but forced to sit through classes and speeches and moral indoctrination just like in church?! What you are saying, bringing back the draft, would be the equivalent of forcing people to go to church.