Remarkable audio: FDR leads nation in poignant prayer in D-Day radio address

In honor of the 70th anniversary of D-Day, Glenn played a remarkable piece of audio on radio this morning. In addition to a compilation of various news reports, the audio contains a radio address from President Franklin D. Roosevelt in which he asks the nation to join in a solemn prayer.

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“My fellow Americans, last night when I spoke with you about the fall of Rome, I knew at that moment that troops of the United States and our allies were crossing the channel in another and greater operation,” Roosevelt said. “It has come to pass with success thus far. And so in this poignant hour I ask you to join with me in prayer.”

Almighty God: Our sons, pride of our Nation, this day have set upon a mighty endeavor, a struggle to preserve our Republic, our religion, and our civilization, and to set free a suffering humanity.

Lead them straight and true; give strength to their arms, stoutness to their hearts, steadfastness in their faith.

They will need Thy blessings. Their road will be long and hard. For the enemy is strong. He may hurl back our forces. Success may not come with rushing speed, but we shall return again and again; and we know that by Thy grace, and by the righteousness of our cause, our sons will triumph.

They will be sore tried, by night and by day, without rest-until the victory is won. The darkness will be rent by noise and flame. Men’s souls will be shaken with the violences of war.

For these men are lately drawn from the ways of peace. They fight not for the lust of conquest. They fight to end conquest. They fight to liberate. They fight to let justice arise, and tolerance and good will among all Thy people. They yearn but for the end of battle, for their return to the haven of home.

Some will never return. Embrace these, Father, and receive them, Thy heroic servants, into Thy kingdom.

And for us at home – fathers, mothers, children, wives, sisters, and brothers of brave men overseas – whose thoughts and prayers are ever with them – help us, Almighty God, to rededicate ourselves in renewed faith in Thee in this hour of great sacrifice.

Many people have urged that I call the Nation into a single day of special prayer. But because the road is long and the desire is great, I ask that our people devote themselves in a continuance of prayer. As we rise to each new day, and again when each day is spent, let words of prayer be on our lips, invoking Thy help to our efforts.

Give us strength, too – strength in our daily tasks, to redouble the contributions we make in the physical and the material support of our armed forces.

And let our hearts be stout, to wait out the long travail, to bear sorrows that may come, to impart our courage unto our sons wheresoever they may be.

And, O Lord, give us Faith. Give us Faith in Thee; Faith in our sons; Faith in each other; Faith in our united crusade. Let not the keenness of our spirit ever be dulled. Let not the impacts of temporary events, of temporal matters of but fleeting moment let not these deter us in our unconquerable purpose.

With Thy blessing, we shall prevail over the unholy forces of our enemy. Help us to conquer the apostles of greed and racial arrogancies. Lead us to the saving of our country, and with our sister Nations into a world unity that will spell a sure peace a peace invulnerable to the schemings of unworthy men. And a peace that will let all of men live in freedom, reaping the just rewards of their honest toil.

Thy will be done, Almighty God.

Amen. 

“I heard that last night and I thought, ‘My gosh, how far have we fallen,’” Glenn said. “I don’t know if I have ever heard a national broadcast where a president actually led us in a sincere and humble prayer. How far have we fallen… Have you ever heard anything like that before? Have you ever heard a president pray like that on air? I mean I was shocked when I heard that.”

  • John A. C. Kelley

    I bet it feels good to believe that God is on our side in war, but the truth is that God hates war and the teachings of Jesus Christ are of peace and not of war. A great book on this topic is A Farewell to Mars by Brian Zahnd.

    Here is a good example that mirrors what Kennedy prayed. Am excerpt from Mark Twain’s “The War Prayer”.

    It was a time of great and exalting excitement. The country was up in arms, the war was on, in every breast burned the holy fire of patriotism; the drums were beating, the bands playing, the toy pistols popping, the bunched firecrackers hissing and spluttering; on every hand and far down the receding and fading spread of roofs and balconies a fluttering wilderness of flags flashed in the sun; daily the young volunteers marched down the wide avenue gay and fine in their new uniforms, the proud fathers and mothers and sisters and sweethearts cheering them with voices choked with happy emotion as they swung by; nightly the packed mass meetings listened, panting, to patriot oratory which stirred the deepest deeps of their hearts, and which they interrupted at briefest intervals with cyclones of applause, the tears running down their cheeks the while; in the churches the pastors preached devotion to flag and country, and invoked the God of Battles beseeching His aid in our good cause in outpourings of fervid eloquence which moved every listener. It was indeed a glad and gracious time, and the half dozen rash spirits that ventured to disapprove of the war and cast a doubt upon its righteousness straightway got such a stern and angry warning that for their personal safety’s sake they quickly shrank out of sight and offended no more in that way.

    Sunday morning came — next day the battalions would leave for the front; the church was filled; the volunteers were there, their young faces alight with martial dreams — visions of the stern advance, the gathering momentum, the rushing charge, the flashing sabers, the flight of the foe, the tumult, the enveloping smoke, the fierce pursuit, the surrender! Then home from the war, bronzed heroes, welcomed, adored, submerged in golden seas of glory! With the volunteers sat their dear ones, proud, happy, and envied by the neighbors and friends who had no sons and brothers to send forth to the field of honor, there to win for the flag, or, failing, die the noblest of noble deaths. The service proceeded; a war chapter from the Old Testament was read; the first prayer was said; it was followed by an organ burst that shook the building, and with one impulse the house rose, with glowing eyes and beating hearts, and poured out that tremendous invocation

    God the all-terrible! Thou who ordainest! Thunder thy clarion and lightning thy sword!

    Then came the “long” prayer. None could remember the like of it for passionate pleading and moving and beautiful language. The burden of its supplication was, that an ever-merciful and benignant Father of us all would watch over our noble young soldiers, and aid, comfort, and encourage them in their patriotic work; bless them, shield them in the day of battle and the hour of peril, bear them in His mighty hand, make them strong and confident, invincible in the bloody onset; help them to crush the foe, grant to them and to their flag and country imperishable honor and glory –

    An aged stranger entered and moved with slow and noiseless step up the main aisle, his eyes fixed upon the minister, his long body clothed in a robe that reached to his feet, his head bare, his white hair descending in a frothy cataract to his shoulders, his seamy face unnaturally pale, pale even to ghastliness. With all eyes following him and wondering, he made his silent way; without pausing, he ascended to the preacher’s side and stood there waiting. With shut lids the preacher, unconscious of his presence, continued with his moving prayer, and at last finished it with the words, uttered in fervent appeal, “Bless our arms, grant us the victory, O Lord our God, Father and Protector of our land and flag!”

    The stranger touched his arm, motioned him to step aside — which the startled minister did — and took his place. During some moments he surveyed the spellbound audience with solemn eyes, in which burned an uncanny light; then in a deep voice he said:

    “I come from the Throne — bearing a message from Almighty God!” The words smote the house with a shock; if the stranger perceived it he gave no attention. “He has heard the prayer of His servant your shepherd, and will grant it if such shall be your desire after I, His messenger, shall have explained to you its import — that is to say, its full import. For it is like unto many of the prayers of men, in that it asks for more than he who utters it is aware of — except he pause and think.

    “God’s servant and yours has prayed his prayer. Has he paused and taken thought? Is it one prayer? No, it is two — one uttered, the other not. Both have reached the ear of Him Who heareth all supplications, the spoken and the unspoken. Ponder this — keep it in mind. If you would beseech a blessing upon yourself, beware! lest without intent you invoke a curse upon a neighbor at the same time. If you pray for the blessing of rain upon your crop which needs it, by that act you are possibly praying for a curse upon some neighbor’s crop which may not need rain and can be injured by it.

    “You have heard your servant’s prayer — the uttered part of it. I am commissioned of God to put into words the other part of it — that part which the pastor — and also you in your hearts — fervently prayed silently. And ignorantly and unthinkingly? God grant that it was so! You heard these words: ‘Grant us the victory, O Lord our God!’ That is sufficient. the whole of the uttered prayer is compact into those pregnant words. Elaborations were not necessary. When you have prayed for victory you have prayed for many unmentioned results which follow victory — must follow it, cannot help but follow it. Upon the listening spirit of God fell also the unspoken part of the prayer. He commandeth me to put it into words. Listen!

    “O Lord our Father, our young patriots, idols of our hearts, go forth to battle — be Thou near them! With them — in spirit — we also go forth from the sweet peace of our beloved firesides to smite the foe. O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it — for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.

    (After a pause.) “Ye have prayed it; if ye still desire it, speak! The messenger of the Most High waits!”

    It was believed afterward that the man was a lunatic, because there was no sense in what he said.

  • Michael Conway

    All throughout scripture the righteous would always offer up prayer to Heavenly Father for the righteous to be victorious. The Lord will decide who is righteous.

  • rsmith

    God may not love war, but at times it is necessary. The Jews went to battle many times to preserve righteousness. To say that God was not on the side of the Allies would be a complete fallacy. It does not say that war is good or loved, but that the Allies were on the righteous side of the war and ended the destruction and evil that was the Axis. I use WWII as the example in part, because of the subject of the article, but this could be related to other wars as well.

    And to say that Christ was a peace keeper, is not completely correct. Remember, he took switches to the money changers in the Temple and drove them out by force? There is this incorrect belief coming about that Christ was a live and let live kind of guy. That is completely wrong. He came to teach us the correct way to live so that we could return to him and God.

  • Chris Layton

    This nation is way beyond saving at this point. The leader we have now of this nation is downright evil. At least it’s easy to see that it will be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrah than it will be for this nation with its coming judgment. This nation will continue on its path being ever more evil than Hitler’s Germany or Stalin’s Russia or any other nation that has occupied this planet.

  • Anonymous

    You remove prayer and you get a cesspool of crime, perversion, hate, illiteracy, unwed, diseases and more. Look at the states, towns and schools who opted out on prayer and the pledge of allegiance! Most of these towns are so infected with evil they appear to be attacked from a warhead but GOd was removed and the devil gladly took over.

  • Chris Layton

    “The teachings of Jesus Christ are of peace and not of war” Is that so?
    “Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.” (Jesus Christ speaking in Matthew 10:34)

  • Anonymous

    I just couldn’t read your whole story, but want to add that America’s enemies also pray before going to war or battle. I understand that even Hitler observed moments of prayer before his battles.
    Having said that, in those days America was the envy of the world, not like today when she is the laughing stock. Duh, what changed? There’s that word again, “CHANGE”.

  • Anonymous

    Only heard about a Leader acknowledging and praying to GOD when I left Soviet Union.
    Native Born Americans Take for GRANTED what the D-DAY and Pacific sacrifices preserved for them.
    It would appear from my knowledge of American history that the Socialists in the Supreme Court in the 1960′s and early 70′s lay the groundwork for MORE SOCIALISM and the SACRIFICES of D-DAY were co-opted by Communist sympathies and NOW the only one thing that keeps AMERICANS FREE IS THE U.S CONSTITUTION

  • Anonymous

    Hitler was heavily into the occult. Evil people pray all the time. That doesn’t mean that the real God is hearing them. Planned Parenthood is now attempting to use prayer and Scripture to support the killing of the unborn, of all things.

  • Anonymous

    Sometimes war has to happen or the entire earth would be living under the evil of totalitarianism. Which is what will happen during the Tribulation. Which is on its way.

  • Mike Barnes

    I’ve heard this before. A friend of mine has a lot of radio news recordings from this era including hours of D-Day coverage from CBS. I know it sounds whacked, but in those days the American MSM actually sounded as if they were behind the USA war effort and supported it. Today the reporters would be fired for “advocacy” journalism.

    If Obama had been running the show back then, and his base whining about civilian casualties, we’d all be speaking German.

  • Mike Barnes

    Most native born Americans, products of public school indoctrination, er, education. don’t even know what D-Day is.

  • Anonymous

    Hitler may have prayed for success in his battles, but God is under no obligation to help someone accomplish an evil act.

  • Anonymous

    Christ taught of peace, but He also knew that His teachings would be rejected and fought against by people who choose evil. Hence the sword metaphor.

  • Anonymous

    I wish we could hear words like that from our current president.

  • Donna Bleiler

    Even the leaders who allowed and even set this nation on the wrong path prayed for it’s safety and freedoms entrusting it to God Almighty. Perhaps he should have prayed for his own wisdom and that of his party as they are now booing God and cheering for mass murder of innocent lives while the rest claim to be too busy to care.

  • MGM

    2 Chronicles 7:14

    King James Version (KJV)

    14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

  • Anonymous

    The sword mentioned was the division caused between the kingdom of men [world system of things done for the glory of man], i.e. vain glory and the Kingdom of God [that which exists for God's glory alone], i.e. eternal glory. The two are always opposed to each other as are their subjects. Jesus preached the gospel of the arrival of the Kingdom of God on earth as its chief ambassador, prophet, priest and King thereby bringing the “sword” of separation between the subjects of the two groups. He isn’t specifically talking about war in the context used although that has been a result of the gospel being ignored. All wars are fought because of fallen sinful men although some sides do fight on the side of justice, even if unintentionally.

  • olford

    Without the righteousness of God, we are doomed to death and destruction, for wages of sin is death. No honest spirit of mankind can deny this truth. God Himself gave us the choice. God said, I set before you today Life and Death, Choose Life. God Bless us as we humbly ask for your forgiveness, and here by pledge that with all our heart, mind, body,and soul to love and follow you for the rest of our days. Amen

  • olford

    We are still the envy of the world, ask any person that came from dictatorship, communist countries and they will tell the truth, for they have lived it. The lie promoted by the evil one is not true. Praise the Lord !

  • John A. C. Kelley

    God never deems war as necessary and war is never righteous. To say that we won because God was on our side is an assumption that you cannot give any evidence for. The fact of the matter is that we just had the superior military force and we teamed up with Soviet Russia.

    As to your reference of Jesus in the temple. You neglected to read into the story enough to see that Jesus didn’t commit any violent act in the temple. He is never recorded using the whip to strike people; He most likely used to whip to emit the loud cracking sound that it is commonly used for in herding animals.

  • John A. C. Kelley

    Contextualize said scripture before you use it to support you. I would respond to this, but others have already explained your error in the other comments.

  • olford

    You are correct. Many folks I meet are full of coveting taught by the evil one (government leaders). When the subject of hard work or honesty comes up they aren’t very interested. When having someone else pay their bills they are good with that. When you confront their everything should be free way of life, then your questioned “your not a very good Christian”. They have a problem facing the fact that one must lie and steal maintain that status. Moral of the story is the evil one is in our house. Are you a true Christian if you are against letting people steal from you ?

  • jaydee

    Mikey Weinstein would have sicced the ACLU on Roosevelt. Amazing where we are now and how fast we are sliding into oblivion. I pray not, but get discouraged waiting for some sign of a turn around.

  • Anonymous

    The current President supports prayer. He differs in his belief it should be to himself!

  • Anonymous

    The current President supports prayer. He differs in his belief it should be to himself!

  • olford

    Amen Sir !

  • olford

    To allha aka satan

  • John A. C. Kelley

    Islam, Judaism, and Christianity all worship the God of Abraham. Islam and Judaism are both adamant that God is soley one entity and not trinitarian like Christianity believes He is. Islam also believes that Jesus was a great prophet who was taken to heaven before death to come back in the day of the Lord.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t muddy the waters, Islam worships Allah, a name not mentioned in the Bible as one of the scores of names the God of Israel identifies with. Allah, by the fruits of his followers, is clearly Satan.

  • chip griffin

    and the days are without number…

  • rsmith

    You may be right about the temple, but if war was never righteous, then why did the Jews go to battle when being led by the prophets? Would God give an unrighteous commandment? And if it all has to do with superior force, how was it that we won the Revolutionary War? Britain clearly had the greater might.

  • grassroot

    Phony, as we’ve seen in all his posings.

  • Chris Layton

    That’s a big IF.

  • zemla

    No joke man!

  • Chris Layton

    Ok, I’ll “contextualize” with the scripture that follows the one I quoted (Matthew 10:35)
    “For I (Jesus) am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.”
    Pretty sure that indicates internal family conflict. Differences of opinion within the same family, same church, same fraternal association or what have you. Has nothing to do with two different kingdoms.
    Christ was well acquainted with treason coming even from his closest most trusted disciples (Judas), but it’s nothing new. It’s why he told his disciples to go buy a sword even if they had to sell their garment to do so. Adam was well acquainted with this concept (Cain), Noah was well acquainted with this concept (Canaan). God most certainly is well aquainted with this concept (Lucifer)
    From day 1 God has been at war with Lucifer and his followers and we’re not here to go golfing or on vacation either.
    In fact this division between those who listen to the adversary and those who listen to God was placed within God’s children as a divine attribute when he said “And I will put enmity between thee (Lucifer) and the woman, and between thy seed (Lucifer’s children) and her seed (Eve’s children); it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.” (Gen 3:15)
    I’d say those were fighting words wouldn’t you?
    Still think the Son is so much different than His Father? The same Eternal Father that destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah from off the map for the sin of Homosexuality among others? The same Eternal Father that killed Nadab and Abihu for offering strange fire before the Lord? The same Father that threw his son Lucifer into an eternal flaming pit for rebellion?

  • olford

    Sir I would encourage you to study God’s word completely in it’s entirety with an open heart and ready to seek truth where ever it leads you. God Bless your search.

  • John A. C. Kelley

    The people of the Old Testament had an extremely skewed vision of God because they couldn’t know Him due to sin. Reading the Old Testament we see an angry vengeful God, but Jesus (who is God) brought new revelation to us and Paul took advantage of that to explain God’s true nature due to our new relationship with Him. Nations have always believed that God was on their side. Brian Zahnd gives a much better answer to this in his book “A Farewell to Mars” than I ever could.

    We won the Revolutionary War due to France’s help. We won one iconic battle after a series of horrible losses and that win convinced France to join us and that’s when the tides turned and Britain began to lose.

  • John A. C. Kelley

    You clearly don’t understand what contextualization means. Contextualization is not only reading the scripture along with the others around it, but also knowing what was going on in history, knowing who wrote it (if the author is stated, which in Matthew the author is unknown), knowing why it was written, who it was written to, and why it was written to them. In this scripture it is clear that He is speaking about those who believe in Him and accept His reformation and those who don’t. It is not a violent turning against, but a belief system that is turning against. http://carm.org/did-jesus-come-to-bring-peace-or-not
    Also, the people of the Old Testament spoke of God as angry and wrathful, but Jesus came showing the true nature of God and that is love. Love does not kill. Satan comes to steal, kill, and destroy; not God. Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed for the same reason that Babylon was and this was done by Satan, not by God.

  • Anonymous

    Book I found on Amazon–First of All pray. Written in 2013 about praying for this nation.

  • Anonymous

    Well said.

  • Anonymous

    Why did you say that Lucifer was the “son” of the Father. That does not come from the Bible. Maybe the book of Mormon, but not the Bible.

  • Anonymous

    That sound that was heard at Normandy when Marxist Obama walked among the Crosses and Star of Davids of the American heroes that are buried there is them rolling over in their graves. Here we have a person who gave a nice speech, but does not believe a word in it. He is a lot like Hillary Clinton in that she has not done one thing in her career and he has not done one thing in his career for the country except take.

  • Ed faris

    you need to know that the word “allah” as used by the moslems defines their “god”.
    But he word “ALLAH” as used by Christians and Jews, is the name of the true GOD !!!

  • John A. C. Kelley

    You do not even know what the Arabic word Allah means. In Ancient Hebrew the word for God was Elohim. In Aramaic (the dialect of Hebrew that Jesus spoke) the word for God was Ellah. In Arabic the word for God is Allah. El and Al are actually the same prefix in the Middle Eastern languages and the mean one. Allah means the same as Ellah and Jesus called God Ellah.

  • John A. C. Kelley

    In Ancient Hebrew the word for God was Elohim. In Aramaic (the dialect of Hebrew that Jesus spoke) the word for God was Ellah. In Arabic the word for God is Allah. El and Al are actually the same prefix in the Middle Eastern languages and they mean one. Allah means the same as Ellah and Jesus called God Ellah.

  • John A. C. Kelley

    I do study the Bible, which is not the Word of God because that is a title reserved for Jesus and Jesus alone. I study the Bible all the time and what you have said has nothing to do with what I stated above. I was merely referring to the fact that Islam and Christianity aren’t all that different and those who believe that they are don’t have an understanding of Islam. American Christianity has demonized Islam and has skewed it in many ways in order to protect the war on terror. Christianity started this fued long ago with the Crusades.

  • John A. C. Kelley

    Try “The War Prayer” by Mark Twain.

  • John A. C. Kelley

    Another thing is that Sodom wasn’t destroyed for homosexuality and to say that it was is to add your own prejudice to scripture. Homosexuality is never mentioned as a sin of Sodom. Please read Isaiah 1:10-17 (the sin was injustice, not rescuing the oppressed, not defending the orphan, not pleading for the widow), Jeremiah 23:14 (the sin is adultery), Ezekiel 16:48-49 (the sin is not aiding the poor and needy), Zephaniah 2:8-11 (the sin is bullying, boasting, and pride). As you can see there is no mention of homosexuality. Now if we move on to the reasons that Babylon was destroyed, we will see similar reasons such as not sheltering the poor, not aiding the sick, not welcoming the immigrant and not visiting the prisoner. These are the categories that encompass both the sins of Sodom and of Babylon (the two cities destroyed in the Bible). Now we get to the Sheep and Goat parable that Jesus told. If looked at critically, this parable is about nations and not individuals as it mentions judgement based on the four categories mentioned above and does not mention accepting Jesus or having any faith. The parable also never mentions the individual, so it is most likely about the judgement of nations. Knowing this, we see that neither Sodom or Babylon pass the test of sheltering the poor, aiding the sick, welcoming the immigrant, or visiting the prisoner and this is why they were destroyed. Now ask yourself the haunting question: does the US do these things?

  • Anonymous

    Obama is the DEVIL praying to kill more Americans

  • Chris Layton

    It’s in the bible but I’m curious as to where you believe the devil came from? He had to be one of God’s creations since God created everything and if that’s the case then he had to be subject to his creator. Lucifer at some point fell. “And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven” (Luke 10: 18) which would infer that he was once in a higher position or a position of angelic authority. How can anyone judge a person and cast him into the prison unless he has the legal authority? Lucifer broke the law and became subject to eternal punishment and because of that, he became very angry and determined to drag God’s other children down with him.

    Consider this excerpt between God and the king of Tyre:

    “14Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

    15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

    16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.”

    17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

    18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

    19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more” (Eze 28 14-19)

    Now I’m just reasoning this through but you tell me what you think if it sounds plausible to you.

  • Chris Layton

    So it wasn’t good enough then to include the rest of the scriptures to give full context, you need a play by play history of the world at that time along with it in order for you to be able to understand the context?

  • FRW007

    My grandfather was the rector at the church Roosevelt attened at Hyde Park and knew him well. FDR even ordered my grandfather be issued a waiver to be a chaplin in the Navy even though he was over age. I have my issues with FDR politically, but I do know he was a man of God. This prayer was sincere and not a political move as it may be seen today.

  • John A. C. Kelley

    For the most part, yes. This is how Biblical scholars do their jobs. Clearly you saw the scriptures you posted as violent, which contradicts pretty much everything else the Bible says about Him. Jesus is the Prince of Peace, not the Prince of Peace unless (insert scenario here). Jesus preached peace; He would not just change it up randomly. You used two scriptures for context and not even the whole passage. The website that I linked gave the reasoning that this scripture was peaceful. There was also no hint of violence in this scripture other than the one you tried to create.

  • Chris Layton

    If the hallmark of Sodom is not “Sodomy” then what is? If a
    person is referred to as a “Sodomite” what do you think that means? Two angels come from visiting Abraham on the plains of Mamre and travel to Sodom to visit Lot and the men of Sodom nearly break down the door of Lot’s home down to insist that he let his guests out that “they may know
    them” so the Angels tell Lot to pack his things and get out of there because the city was about to be destroyed but you think that the sin of homosexuality had nothing to do with it? Talk about reading in context.
    All you have to do is take the words at face value and it’s easy enough to see what it’s saying. I mean you start out your premise that Jesus was some sort of peacenick or something which he wasn’t. He goes into the temple with a whip to beat the moneychangers with. His disciples carried swords (not wiffle bats or feathers), Christ told them to get swords, he told them that he came to divide and that he would do so with the sword and you’re trying to argue that he’s against war? Ok whatever. You have the right to see whatever you want to I guess.

  • Sam Reaves

    Glenn,

    What is amazing about this, that should not be amazing, is that I would bet that FDR wrote this himself without the cadre of politically correct ghost writers so prevalent in Washington today.

    In retrospect I do not think that Obama would be capable of writing such a prayer because he lacks the humbleness required before the almighty.

    FDR today would probably be in the conservative wing of the Democratic party.

    FDR was a liberal for sure but light years ahead of Obama as a leader. Actually I don’t believe the two should be mentioned in the same sentence.

    I am praying that God will help us through the next two years and that we have the intelligence to elect a true leader in the next election.

  • John A. C. Kelley

    I gave you substantial scripture that provided you with the written accounts of the sins of Sodom and you still push for that not being the reason it was destroyed? It literally mirrored Babylon and that’s not why it was destroyed? That doesn’t even make sense. There is a similar story in I think the end of 2nd Kings (I’ll look it up when I get home) of the Tribe of Benjamin. In this story, some travelers were in the middle of a town inhabited by the Tribe of Benjamin, but no one would take them in for the night (sounds pretty hostile to immigrants just like Sodom and Babylon were). Finally, a man took them into his house just before nightfall and when nightfall came the wicked men of the town surrounded the man’s house and demanded that he sent his guests out so that they could rape them. The man said that he could not because he had allowed them into the protection of his home (taking care of the immigrant). The men refused to leave so the man offered his women servants to them in an attempt to them, but the brutal raped and beat the women and demanded the men. The women crawled back to the door of the house and died there. When the man opened his door the next day he was disgusted and cut the women into 12 pieces and sent them to the other 11 tribes. The other 11 tribes then went to war with e Tribe of Benjamin due to their brutality. In this time period it was common for men to rape other men to prove their dominance over strangers. This is what contextualizing scripture looks like. Using many other scriptures from around the Bible to make sure it fits and it does. Nowhere does the Bible say that the sin of Sodom was sodomy; it was a misconception that led to it. It’s just like many people read the Bible and say that God was a brutal God or that Jesus didn’t die or other ridiculous claims. They are taking scripture out of context and reading their own convictions into it.

    Jesus disciples had two swords out of the 13 people (including Jesus). When Jesus told them to buy a sword, they replied that they had two already and He said that the two were enough. How would two be enough unless Jesus was trying to make a point? He was merely drawing the attention of the Romans with the swords. There is no way that two swords would have been adequate for any kind of battle, especially when he could literally call legions of angels from heaven at any time. Also, notice that Jesus never used violence once and he ordered Peter to lay his sword down when he used it. Jesus was not an advocate of violence and to say that He was undermines the Gospels. Please read “A Farewell to Mars” by Brian Zahnd.

  • Chris Layton

    I’m sorry that I can’t explain it in simple enough terms for you to understand. Anyhow, this thread is getting worn out as it is.

  • Chris Layton

    I’m not saying that it wasn’t destroyed for all those other sins. It was destroyed for all those other things as well as homosexuality and God was angry about Lot’s daughter being raped and killed and about the woman who had honey dumped on her followed by bees for feeding a beggar. All those things were summed up in the charges against Sodom and Gomorrah but let’s not forget the original premise which was that God carries a sword and so does His son. Jesus most certainly did use violence when he made a cat of nine tails and went into the temple with it and beat the money changers with it.

  • Reliquary

    You are very incorrect… in nearly every thing you have said you are in error. It is not up to me to correct your error but i do pray that the scales would be lifted from your eyes to see the truth as it is plainly written and you have missed it.

  • Reliquary

    If you bother to actually study rather then just read propaganda you would find that allah is an ancient moon god of the Arabic world. They began with many gods but were persuaded to worship only the one “allah” . Additionally, thorough study will lead you to the truth that allah and Elohim, (Adoniai) are far from the same. PLease study fervently to show yourself approved and stop playing the fool. People who have studied see your words for what they are,nonsense. El is a shortened version of Elohim, not ellah.

  • Reliquary

    Sorry ..Wrong again.. Yeshua never called YHWH ellah.

  • MGM

    Exactly because we serve a BIG GOD!

  • Chris Layton

    Some do. Most don’t.

  • Chris Layton

    Sounds like you just like to argue simply for the sake of arguing. You’re talking semantics as far as your “word of God” bit just for the purpose of stirring people up using word play. The religion of Islam is the religion of the devil plain and simple. I can see however that the Islamic religion is considered an annoyance to the New World Order though and Muslims are a convenient whipping boy to push the agenda of a one world government in the name of “protecting us” from terrorism. I’m sure they do endure abuses. I pity them. It sucks to be duped. I hope some of them can come out of that mess but the statistics aren’t in their favor.

  • dsb0518

    America is definitely not a free country. We have had our freedoms slowly legislated away because hard core religious fanatics and ultra left leaning socialists are so obsessed with creating a utopian society. I don’t think that prayer should be banned anywhere but it should not be forced on anyone either. This country used to be about individualism and freedom. Now it is about locking up everyone who doesn’t follow the status quo and fining people who don’t wear their seatbelts. How about we give freedom a chance and stop thinking up new ways to limit it. There are so many criminals because things are illegal now that weren’t always illegal and pushing prayer on people is not going to fix human nature.

  • John A. C. Kelley

    My purpose in saying that was not to stir people up, but to end the senslessness of elevating the Bible to the fourth member of the trinity by giving it the devine name reserved for Jesus; the Word of God. As to the religion of Islam, you have no proof or reason to define them as satanic any more than you would call the Jewish religion satanic.

  • John A. C. Kelley

    What error have I made? That the Bible isn’t the Word of God? It isn’t. The only reference to the Word of God is through verses such as John 1 where it is obvious that it is speaking of Jesus. Go ahead, put the Bible in place of the Word in John 1 and see how much sense it makes, then try putting Jesus there. Jesus is the authority of God’s word. Jesus is the logos. As to Islam, if you believe what I have said is incorrect, then you do not know much about either Christianity, Islam, or both.

  • John A. C. Kelley

    Elohim and Ellah are the same words of different dialects of the same language. I have studied this out and taken scholarly classes as well as Hebrew and Greek. I know what I’m talking about. Elohim, Ellah, and Allah are all the generic words for god or gods. In the Old Testament God is named as Elohim, in the New Testament God is named as Ellah. Jesus called God Ellah. The words Elohim, Ellah, Allah, and God are all synonymous. We do not call God by His actual name because He has never given us one and because we couldn’t say it even if we tried. In the Old Testament when God spoke to Moses, He identified Himself as YHWH (Yahweh), which means I AM WHO I AM or I WILL BE WHO I WILL BE. God did this because He would not be bound to our material world by giving Himself an actual name the way the Egyptian gods were. Each of the plagues against Egypt were against each of the main gods of Egypt to prove that God was sovereign over them.

  • Chris Layton

    I’ve got proof enough for me to be convinced. Whether you ever figure it out is your own affair. They deny the divinity of Jesus Christ as being the only begotten of the Father. They think in the end that Christ is going to recant and tell everyone that he lied about being the son of God. That’s enough for me to know that the doctrine comes from the lowest regions of hell. Therefore they practice the religion of the devil. By the same token the Jews who denied Christ deceived themselves as well and if they hang on to that incorrect notion though the Son reveals himself, there’s no salvation in believing a lie so they’d better get it figured out. The Jews who did figure it out are already Christians.

  • John A. C. Kelley

    Most scholars disagree with you. The word for God in Aramaic (the dialect of Hebrew that Jesus spoke) is Ellah, but Jesus used a variant of that on the cross when He cried Eloi Eloi, why have you forsaken me? YHWH means I AM WHO I AM or I WILL BE WHO I WILL BE to define God as transcendent in this world. God is synonymous with Elohim, Ellah, and Allah; they are all the generic words for a supreme being or diety.

  • John A. C. Kelley

    The sins of Sodom were listed; you will not find homosexuality mentioned as a sin against Sodom anywhere in the Bible. You have no basis for your assumption that God and Jesus carry swords because scripture never says that they do. The only mention of either having a sword is the two edged sword protruding from Jesus’ mouth, which is clearly His tongue according to other passages of scripture. Also, as I’ve said above, “As to your reference of Jesus in the temple. You neglected to read into the story enough to see that Jesus didn’t commit any violent act in the temple. He is never recorded using the whip to strike people; He most likely used to whip to emit the loud cracking sound that it is commonly used for in herding animals.”

  • John A. C. Kelley

    You clearly don’t understand how Bible scholars work. Contextualozation has more to do with the time period than anything else. You can’t read it like it was written in any time period other than when it was written and you have to know what was going on in that time period to fully understand it.

  • Ryan DeYoung

    Is there anyway we can get just the video/audio of just the D-Day video that is displaying on the screens put up on TheBlaze’s YouTube without Glenn’s commentary? I ask because I want to share this with my friends – but a lot of them are liberal and I dont want them to not watch it if they see the words Glenn Beck anywhere :( If you do a youtube video (and please do) please use put his name and The Blaze at the very end! :) Thanks!

  • Chris Layton

    You’re repeating yourself. Perhaps you need a new pair of glasses because clearly, your lenses are fogged and you do not know what you are talking about and you are no bible scholar. You haven’t a clue as to the true nature of Jesus Christ. He was gruff and he said it like it is and it offended nearly everyone except a small few. Everywhere he went he created divisions as his tongue like the sword cut cleanly to the heart of anyone within range of his voice. Totally angered the people that should have understood him most.
    God says man’s wisdom is foolishness to Him and honestly I don’t really care what modern “Bible scholars” think because the first thing they discard is personal revelation as it pertains to interpreting scripture.
    The second thing is whether they go back into the Hebrew and Greek Lexicon to interpret Biblical word meanings. Some do, and I’ll read them on occasion, and some don’t and are morons similar to Joel Osteen Ekhart Tolle and Oprah Winfrey with their New Age type of religion.

  • Reliquary

    You remind me very much of a fellow I used to run into on another site. He claimed to have a PhD and a lot of people believed him until we contacted the actual PhD who’s name he had been using . That’s right, he was a fraud. First off Aramaic is a precursor to Arabic. And while there may be some similarities to Hebrew, they are nothing alike. You sound like the many “scholars”, I disagree with also, who have claimed that: Yeshua, a Hebrew, in a synagogue, a Hebrew house of worship, reading from a scroll, written in Hebrew, to an audience of Hebrews, Spoke Greek…..It’s laughable friend and so are you. I will not reply to you father since you have claimed that “you do not know much about either Christianity, Islam, or both.” if I would be so brazen as to disagree with you. I have actually made no claims about my authority nor credentials as you have. Let me leave you with a piece of advice, that you will not consider worth anything since you already claimed not to accept the bible as being inspired by God, in fact you probably don’t believe in YHWH as the One true God either; Be careful about teaching false doctrine, it will be the eternal end of you.

  • PacNWSon

    Wow Ryan, that is an offensive request. UFB. Just wow.

  • Shakes Sphere

    If we are to continue discovering better ways of doing things, as many people as possible must be as free as possible to experiment and innovate.

  • john in pa

    Apparently no one reminded FDR that his words were unconstitutional….
    Truly, may God help us…