Just how bad are the new Common Core tests? Two New York educators offer a frightening in-depth look

Glenn has spoken for some time about how the fight against Common Core is a cause that can unite the left and the right, and it seems as though that logic is beginning to prove true.

A recent Washington Post article entitled “A disturbing look at Common Core tests in New York” makes a case study out of New York state where parents and teachers who were over promised are now finding themselves underwhelmed by the impact of the Common Core standards. Earlier this year, NY Governor Andrew Cuomo (D) amended the state’s teacher and principal evaluations to protect educators from their students’ low scores on Common Core-based exams.

The Post highlights work by Carol Burris and John Murphy. Murphy is a former English teacher and assistant principal at South Side High School in New York. Burris is principal of the school and has been highlighting the “flawed implementation” of the Common Core standards.

Right off the bat, Burris and Murphy make their position on the issue clear:

Congratulations to the New York State Education Department. Officials there have solved the college remediation problem. Their Common Core graduation tests are so “rigorous” and have a new passing score (for students graduating in 2022) set so high that only about 1 in 4 students will graduate high school. And the elite 25 percent who make it won’t be going to community college, so the colleges with highest remediation rates can close.

The article proceeds to take a look at two of New York state’s Regents exams “in order to better understand the continuing march of New York’s reformist lemmings right over the cliff of reason.”

Ouch.

Burris and Murphy first take a look at the June 2014 Common Core Algebra Regents, which was administered primarily to eighth and ninth grade students. The authors highlight question 12 as evidence of how the Common Core standards have maimed the wording of exams:

In the past, the question would have been phrased: “Given the roots -6 and 5, which of the following would be the correct equation?” Students are then given four choices.

Here is the Common Core phrasing: “Keith determines the zeros of the function f(x) to be -6 and 5. What could be Keith’s function?”

This is but one example of a question that was made unnecessarily complicated and wordy in order to give the illusion of a ‘real world’ problem that requires deep thinking.

You can see the entire Common Core Algebra Regents HERE.

Because of the way the test is scored (a topic Murphy and Burris explain thoroughly in the article), a large number of students will fail. As a result those students will then “take the Common Core Algebra course and the test over and over again, rather than move on to Geometry and Advanced Algebra, which would better prepare them for college.” The authors refer to this phenomenon as “a glass ceiling” created by “overly complicated problems in the name of the Common Core.”

The article also takes a look at the June 2014 Common Core English Regents, which Murphy and Burris describe as “even worse” than the math exam. The test has been changed to more similarly model the Advanced Placement Language exam and requires students to read and write more in less time than previous versions of the exams. As the article explains:

[T]he reading requirement on the new exam has almost tripled; the January 2014 ELA Regents exam contained readings that totaled 2,200 words, compared to the Common Core’s 6,200. What’s more, the readings themselves are more difficult in terms of vocabulary, main idea or theme, and syntax–so students have less time to spend on each question, and significantly less time to spend on the writing.

Furthermore, the authors do not believe the exam provides an better indication of college preparedness than the former format did:

We were promised that the test would be an indication of who was and was not college and career ready; the test has no validity in this regard. In fact, we are hearing reports of students taking both the Common Core and the traditional English Regents this month, passing the Common Core Regents and failing the traditional exam. When guessing gets you to pass, a test measures close to nothing.

Check out the June 2014 Common Core English Regents HERE.

Ultimately, Burris and Murphy are not chastising the idea of more rigorous standards. In fact, they seem to support the concept. They do, however, take issue with the various claims that were made while Common Core was being forced through in many states:

Can New York’s students meet more challenging standards? Of course they can. But you must have reasonable standards, take the time to build capacity, and then create assessments that allow students to show what they know, not make tests so difficult few can demonstrate their learning. New York is the canary in the Common Core mine. New York parents, as well as parents in other states, should take the time to look at these tests and decide for themselves if they are reasonable assessments on which to base all students’ diplomas. Is the Common Core and its tests the path to college readiness? We think not.

Read the entire Washington Post report HERE.

  • Anonymous

    Ditch the entire common core federal intrusion into the education of our public school children and shut down Carter’s useless department of education while we’re at it. Give control of the schools back to the states and local boards of education. Since the feds have endlessly poked their noses into education it’s been a downhill slide despite spending vast sums of money. Fight back parents – or home school, private school or whatever it takes to rescue your children from the clutches of this dumbing down of your children.

  • landofaahs

    Just get rid of it and let the local school districts decide the standards.

  • Disco Obama

    End the Dept of Education, save us billions in waste every year. Created by Jimmy Carter, need I say more?

  • Anonymous

    Just took the Algebra test. Seemed reasonable to me. The fact that our kids can’t pass the test is a national embarrassment. The fact is, other countries are kicking our butts in math and science endangering our standard of living. The time is now to get serious about preparing our kids for a fierce global market place for science and technology. Otherwise, our kids will be working for Chinese and Indians firms for low wages.

  • George Huff

    What better way to continue the enslavement of the lower classes than to keep them uneducated. Government dependency = Slavery and a continued voting base.

  • Cynthia Troendle

    The common core question is algebra from the view of calculus. The meaning is the same, but you would need a smattering of calculus to understand that.

  • Trent Sheehan

    Glenn, you do realize that those tests are put together by the New York Board of Education don’t you? They may be attempting to meet the standards, but any tests or curriculum is designed by or chosen by the state. So rather than attack CC, it would be more constructive to attack the state education system.

  • Anonymous

    The test’s are hard, but not terrible. A kid with a good grasp of algebraic concepts should be fine, and if everyone had basic reading comprehension skills at the level the test is looking for we would all be better off.

  • BigDave

    It looks reasonable, but here are better ways to teach math. The math and English are contrived and not based on established educational theory. I’ve taught high school and have an education degree. Common Core isn’t raising standards for the middle group of children. If you want your kids prepared for a bad junior college, support Common Core. Also, the reading list of the English bits is awful. There are actual government documents on the reading list.

  • missmeliss

    Your misuse of apostrophe-s highlights the fact you do not have a basic grasp of the English language. I do not trust your basic skills.

  • Anonymous

    I learned the old-fashioned way. And after some decades, I’d still pit my fund of knowledge against anyone (especially Obummer) – but – I could not answer one of these convoluted bastardized common core questions!
    The problem has never been the way our kids have been taught – But the lack of expectation for them to Learn! I was taught how to learn & I was expected to learn – or else. US students are dumb because of their spoiled exaggerated senses of self-entitlement. All of this common core / tests / etc. will mean nothing until we change our culture to expect better from our kids.

  • BA94TA

    I agree with missmeliss. Your grasp on mathematics is also lacking as a 25% pass rate is terrible. As an engineering major, I can safely say that those are the most convoluted and ridiculously worded questions I have ever seen. They somehow managed to take relatively simple questions and turn them into complicated word problems based highly on how a student interprets the question, all in the name of finding a real world application that is hardly applicable in today’s society.

  • Debbie Pataky

    Quit posting scams on this site

  • Anonymous

    I can’t speak to the English test since I concentrated on math. I have advanced degrees in engineering and and an MBA, so I can compare it to what I learned and what I should have learned before entering engineering school where we had to take advanced calculus, differential equations and partial differentials in addition to advanced physics where the math was applied. Considering the Common Core Regents test in context of the tools needed to succeed in engineering school or applied sciences, I can say the test is a reasonable standard. I don’t understand why teachers find it impossible teach math so that kids have the understanding to pass such a test. The test that I just took requires a general understanding of algebra, not how to solve specific equations. It tested general concepts in graphing, domains, techniques to solve equations. I wonder if teachers that find the test objectionable receive kids in their class that are ill prepared to learn algebra in the first place. Can you explain to me the problem with preparing kids to pass such a test?

  • Alex Deal

    Take a look at inclusion, IDEA, 504, etc. That’s where your problems lie. How are you supposed to teach on the level the Japanese are when we are forced to teach with children who have below 50 IQs in the class? I’ll bet you all these schools that are kicking our butt wouldn’t tolerate a tenth of the stuff American teachers are forced to tolerate, for fear of lawsuits, etc.

  • Cron

    Looking at that question, it looks almost identical to if not simpler than the ones which I did in high school and 8th grade too. However, while I feel that we do need a more rigorous schooling system, the most difference will be made in the youngest grades.

  • Anonymous

    I think you are right. And I also think that there is a better chance of holding teachers, parents, and students accountable on a local level. My friends in education tell me stories of waste and propaganda on the administration level and then parents supporting the deplorable behavior of their children to keep them in school (babysitting). The school systems have completely lost their backbone in both of these areas.

  • Cron

    Also as a practicing engineer, I would have to say that there is some method and reason in the questions’ style. They are very comparable to many European schooling systems as well as China’s (although China’s is also more pressing in memorization). Look up the International Baccalaureate Program

  • Cron

    My mother told me a story of when she attended college for an elementary education degree. Most schools have actually made a basic arithmetic class MANDATORY for elementary teachers because so many are sooo bad at math that they even have problems with this. My mom took advanced calc and elementary arithmetic in the same semester.

    Personally, I’ve taken harder tests in 9th grade. What students are finding difficult in these tests is that they combine what they’ve learned and they require greater problem solving processes to be solved fully. What the real problem is that the teachers we have are by majority unprepared to teach the students sufficiently enough to be able to understand what these questions are trying to do and how to tackle them easily. Instead, teachers are using the same methods of rote factory style education for a testing system that requires creativity and deeper thinking.
    The pass rate isn’t because of the tests – its the teachers.

  • Bonnie Lane

    Getting harder to find a homeschool without this disasterous CC,
    We homeschool due to bullies, and CC has been implemented into
    our lesson plans….get rid of the indoctrination of our children
    making the into robotic obedient cookie cutter children. ..it’s not
    about education but control as well as disrupting the family values !
    Always keep informed as to what your children are being taught
    and then tell them the truth !

  • Anonymous

    I wonder if kids aren’t prepared from an early age and teachers feel helpless. At least some of the complaints we’re hearing about Common Core are shock from realizing how low we’ve gone.

  • Anonymous

    I agree completely. Arguments are being skewed here by those like Landree who have advanced Math-based degrees. If you’re one who easily grasps mathematics-thinking-concepts, you will naturally agree with this common core cxap. Most people however, do not easily grasp these concepts & forcing this upon a majority of children will simply frustrate them & force them to fail. As a teaching option for those who have an advanced understanding of these concepts is one thing – across the board as a “common”-government bureaucracy requirement – is a guarantee to make our educational system implode. As I’ve said – the problem isn’t with how we’re teaching, but how the kids are NOt expected to learn! Landree can take his touting of his fancy degrees (I’ve got my own thank you) and stick em where the sun don’t shine. Doesn’t make him an expert on teaching methods – only as a brown-shirted sheeple.

  • Katie Bell

    Glenn, you’re being boonswaggled by Burris who heads an International Baccalaureate (IB) World School.Common Core is partially based on IB and that is her goal – to promote an NGO of UNESCO!

    http://truthaboutib.com/

  • mom26

    Harder to find a home school? Home school is in your house and you pick the curriculum. Why are you choosing to use common core lesson plans?

  • Diana Smith

    Some states require you to follow the state’s chosen curriculum. If the state wants CC and you have to, there is little choice, but I always supplemented with reality.

  • Diana Smith

    You aren’t far off. There has been a subtle indoctrination since my kids were in school. This isn’t the first time they’ve tried to do something like this. The SRA program in gradeschools in the 60′s and 70′s and the “New Math” they tried to foist upon us was heavily pressed by the NEA. When we moved in fifth grade to a school that was more traditional, I had to have my mother teach me how to do long division. Now they’ve brought the same concepts back in a “prettier” more blatant package. How many students will simply give up on math & reading because they aren’t presented logically from the start? Or worse, how many won’t get it, and start thinking they are just too stupid to?
    I have a grandson just starting kindergarten. I am already acquiring supplies in the event I have to take over his education. I refuse to leave that up to chance. It is too important.

  • Diana Smith

    Tacky. Not interested in your hype. It has nothing to do with the discussion.

  • Gary

    Good for you. I’m lucky; in Texas homeschools are classified as “private schools” so you can teach Common Sense instead of Common Core.

  • Kina Perez

    Alaska is another great homeschool state and we use Heritage Academy all online. So wonderful!

  • Bonnie Lane

    Duh,We have homeschooled for 2 years !
    What I’m say is that the curriculum of
    what children are taught, CC has been
    pushed into homeschooling lessons, even
    some Christian school’s have now
    implemenled CC…!

  • Bonnie Lane

    We do online homeschooling
    and I agree with what Donna
    said .Yes there are state standards
    that you have to follow ! I like
    Donna always follow up on dose’s
    of reality without CC !
    Just everyday life and reality!

  • Bonnie Lane

    Whoops,I’m so sorry it’s s Diana not Donna!

  • Michael Redente Michaud

    Lmao. Are you a real person? I thought Marx was dead…?

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake
  • Joshua Ruark

    As a math teacher who has taught middle school through college, I can say the Algebra 1 exam is quite extensive and contains content that would normally be presented in an Algebra 2 or Pre-Calculus course. I have no problem with high standards or expecting our kids to learn, but I do think tests for a certain subject should reflect material taught in that class, and not more.

  • Donald Dow

    What happens when one of these common core kids wants too go to Harvard? Did anyone think about this?

  • nena

    I think you drank the koolaid, those test results are skewed, in China and India, it’s only a cross section of their best students, there are millions left out of the data. and they do not have the burden of teaching ethnic studies or ESL classes, it is a major expense, and they absolutely do not have inclusive classes, at least, not the students who were tested on those international tests in Math and Science, it is misleading, they have a different mindset on education, they are in school hours upon hours and their whole lives are wrapped around being enslaved to testing, testing. we have never needed that. no wonder they have a high suicide rate among students in countries like that. but you’re right, our kids will be working for Chinese and Indian firms, if we KEEP common core and Agenda 21.

  • nena

    last year I gave up on teaching English and taught them how to write resumes and fill out job applications. I feel I am constantly teaching against my beliefs. we are not supposed to be teaching liberal nor conservative, but all the teachers are pounding liberal doctrine into the students’s heads, I have personally witnessed this with my coteacher.

  • Anonymous

    Public Education is really seeming to be more and more just as bad as ObummerCare, with simple rewards to a slow-moving bureaucracy and no “rewards” for the proposed recipients. Like this ridiculous health care plan, education has become just as socialized and nonproductive. I have been a teacher since 1991 and I favor homeschooling like never before. Just imagine all of the busing and daily grind just to get them to school, just to get the equivalent of about 2-2.5 hours of poor instructional time. It is truly “much ado about nothing.”

  • Jeo Ten

    I will repeat others … end the Department of Education. Save taxpayers millions of dollars and saves our kids education in one step. We do NOT need thousands of Washington bureaucrats centrally planning the education of our children. This is best done much, much closer to the students at the local and state level. Let me repeat … END THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.

  • Anonymous

    notice how Washington has taken over student loans, teacher’s unions, all school funding….and now using common core…Washington has mind control over the very nature of the students..when Washington dangles huge sums of money in front of states for education mandates.

  • http://www.bourgeoisviews.blogspot.com/ Anonymous

    A function is not meant to be an equation. It is a value that can be plugged into an equation. It’s useful in computer programming also. Maybe not all students are going to excel at this type of thought, but how are we to find those that are if they don’t get a chance to experience it?

  • Anonymous

    but will this stop the glut of people, taking huge student loans for sensitivity classes!!!

  • olf

    There are on line K-12 free programs that are not common core bs.
    Check with your church they should have soon sites. If not try Liberty University I’m sure they could help.

  • olf

    If common core keeps going that won’t be a choice. That’s why it’s being passed around, communist countries choose who go’s to college and who don’t. That’s what this is all about. Do you now understand ? It’s the communist way not American pro-standard.

  • ron buice

    Here’s a Common Sense idea. Take the curriculum from the best achieving countries and translate them into English(if they’re not already in English) and implement that curriculum into American education system. But first implement an administartive structure and eliminate teacher unions. Then begin!

  • Anonymous

    Parents are better off “Home Schooling” their children. We won’t have this Socialist program much longer. I think they are giving “Common Core” until this Socialist government can get the “Third World Country” in place. We all know it’s Never going to happen. This is America. I hope this will teach people to get out and vote, so this will never happen again.

  • Anonymous

    The school provided a survey to be filled out by my grand daughter, There were all kinds of questions pertaining to family life.. Is there Drugs or Alcohol in the home, Fire arms, sexual preference questions…. I told the school the survey will not be filled out, they told me I would have to submit a letter, explaining why. I told them I might give it to the school board, as soon as the provided me with a survey of all the employees at the school with the same questions, I have a right to know the attitude, and back ground of those teaching my grand children… I have not received any surveys, and they have not received any letter from me.

  • Jr1776

    We should not have to pay for public schools, that push propaganda.

  • Jr1776

    They want to run our schools, yeah they do such a great job at running the government.

  • Anonymous

    Agenda 21 calls for dumber citizens because they’ll expect less in life and be easier to control. Common Core is the way to that. I am not making that up! Read about Agenda 21. They want people trained for one job only and don’t want them to know anything about other jobs. They want to put us all in small cities where you walk to everything. We won’t be allowed to leave our cities without permission.

  • Anonymous

    They also want to put children’s sensitive personal information in a Common-Core data base to be sold for profit to marketing companies!

  • Anonymous

    I wish that was all the problems we will have with Common Core, but it is just the tip of the iceberg. We all must stand, and stand firm against this monster.

  • educated_mom

    Thank God CC is not a requirement in my state. We pick the curriculum ourselves when Homeschooling. I home schooled my son, and now I am helping my brother get started with homeschooling his daughter. I have reviewed common core and all its implications. I have no doubt that common core’s downfall will be covered in graduate programs all over the country on how it didn’t work and the damage it caused.

  • Shemp

    Fortunately, Common Core graduates will be fully indoctrinated into any $15/hour living wage (minimum wage) position they desire…and be set for life…whew, and no further effort will ever be necessary…

  • Carl

    What part of the US Constitution authorizes federal involvement in local education issues??? Article & Section, if you please….. (And don’t hand me the “general welfare” clause….) ….. Abolish the FED-EDUC department…. It’s NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS!

  • Anonymous

    States,cities and towns of the country are fully capable of determining what and how the children should be taught in their districts. It doesn’t matter that the federal government thinks it can do a better job. Parents, teachers, administrators boards of education should make that decision. There have always been a curriculum or plan of study to follow but it should not be mandated or evaluated by Washington.

  • Sunshine

    I remember seeing you had a movie release about this Common Core, a sort of community education and connection….but I don’t remember the names and dates? Can you please repost??

  • Anonymous

    The Dept. of Education along with ALL politicians, State legislatures, State school superintendents, Principals and Teacher Unions have allowed the development of badly written books full of half truths and out and out lies to be furnished to our children and forced to be read and studied!! Class instructions of courses of study have been allowed to be dumbed down causing our brightest and those lacking in study abilities to be dragged down in common knowledge in Math, English and as for HISTORY, The past is not taught unless it has been skewed in a way from actual true facts and happenings!! Add Common Core on top of all that and it is a NO WONDER, America is heading to the bottom of the list of countries with the poorest of education!!

  • Craig Johnson

    It use to be that we were taught the TRUTH -no matter who or what, Liberal or Conservative. I am hearing of changes in history–unbelievable that Common Core could change FACTS!!

  • Anonymous

    Another alarming thing about education I found out about a month ago from one of my elementary school grandchildren is that cursive reading and writing IS NOT taught in their school! When did this happen! I am absolutely floored by the insanity of this type of intentional illiteracy!

  • Anonymous

    I bought the fastest speed Comcast offers, and only on this site and the Firewire does it lag….makes one wonder W….T…F…?! is going on. I can imagine.

  • Anonymous

    Common core is not the reason for poor US rankings. How do you know that China and India only rank their best students? Regardless, having been in engineering school and run tech companies, I can tell you first hand that a sufficient number of our global competitors are more educated and are taking our jobs at an alarming rate. For example, many US banks totally outsource their IT departments to India taking previously high paying jobs from Americans. Trust me on that. Our country is at a tipping point where low cost countries are now educated enough to innovate, which spells real trouble for the US if foreign investment moves away as a result.

  • Anonymous

    I have noticed that some home school curricula are either modifying themselves to be completely aligned with Common Core or are showing where they were already aligned with Common Core. The curriculum we use does not follow that approach at all.

    I watched a video of the creator of Mammoth Math explaining her offerings. She like many curriculum creators were led to believe that nearly everyone would be following Common Core. She thought the goals and concepts to be good ones, so she created a Common Core math curriculum, though her older version is still available.

    We will be continue using Rod & Staff and other non-Common Core aligned curricula. I was saddened to see that BJU Press was showing how their curriculum was Common Core aligned. I hope they did not rewrite it.

  • Anonymous

    Lincoln wanted govt involved in education

  • Anonymous

    It happened a long time ago. My nephews, who are now 20 and 22, can not read or write cursive and cannot produce a legible signature. They have been poorly served by the modern education system. They will not be able to sign a mortgage, a car loan, a credit card receipt or any form of contract. But I guess it doesn’t matter, because with all the new digital signature pads at store checkout, the best I can accomplish when signing for my purchase appears like I never learned to write in cursive either.

  • Anonymous

    Ever heard of sarcasm?

  • Anonymous

    It is what they have been taught.

  • Anonymous

    The focus today is on social engineering kids into the new world doctrine. Low education level keeps people on low incomes thus using less precious resources the US needs to cut back on.

  • Anonymous

    Do away with the Department of Education and in the process get rid of Common Core and keep the FED out of the education process for our children. Turn education back over tot he States and subsequently to the parents of those to come and those who are now in school.

  • Anonymous

    My daughters are currently being subjected to Common Core and I take the time to ensure they get true American History, true reading of the classics, I am not great at math but friends I know help them when necessary. Common Core must be removed entirely from the United States of America.

  • Anonymous

    Congressional Record from 1962 about UNESCO in which is quoted a write-up by Paul Harvey titled “UNESCO : Communism’s
    Trap for Our Youth”

    http://hayaryakanch.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/congressional-record-unesco-communisms-trap-for-our-youth-1962.pdf

  • Paul

    Yup, he penciled it into the Constitution right above where he signed.

  • Paul

    About the closest I can find is the third amendment.
    They get to quarter their soldiers in our homes since they have declared war on independent education.
    Paul

  • Anonymous

    You are describing many of my current high school students. They show up and expect a passing grade. I’m considered hard and old fashioned because I require the 3 Cs. Their work must be Complete, Correct and Current. And their parents complain that when they take them out of school for skiing trips, etc. they must make up the missed classwork.

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  • william russell

    Hey you need to understand what is behind the common core is the fact that obama is rewarding gates. Gates is the big backer of common core , but you did not know that all the software that is being used in the common core is from Microsoft in which gates owns. No other company can provide any software because the system is designed to only work with Microsoft software. So gates gets billions of dollars selling the soft wear to the schools and than cuts a check in the form of a donation to obama and the democrats. There is another aspect of this common core program. When a person fails the test, they are required to take it over and over until they pass. Each time they take it it costs the school system $2.36 each time. Take this and times it by the thousands or millions of kids all over the you usa and you can see the parents are being ripped off because you have to pay for this in your property taxes for the schools. Common core was not a system to help the children, but rather a plan to have obama control the schools and his supports to make billions of dollars. See how you the parents got screwed and the examples mentioned above are great. I have a master’s and phd, and my son brought home problems and i could not even solved. I feel sorry for all these kids that are going to fail, drop out of school and create another problem.

  • Anonymous

    This very conservative individual will not vote for JEB BUSH, nor any canidate that supports Common Core. Touching on JEB BUSH again. I will vote for his opponent, even if its Hillary. NO TO PROGRESSIVE REPUBLICANS

  • Anonymous

    But if JEB BUSH is the Republican nominee in 2016, will you vote for him?

  • Anonymous

    But will you vote for JEB BUSH if he is the Republican nominee in 2016?

  • Anonymous

    But will you vote for JEB BUSH in 2016 if he is the Republican nominee?

  • rickroland

    College preparedness is bogus anyway, as far as teaching up through high school as preparation for college is concerned. The result of having been educated up through high school level *should be* a person that has the basic language, grammar, math and science data and ability to *use* that data to make a successful go at life in whatever endeavors the person wants to engage in. If that means college, to gain a degree for becoming an engineer, research scientist, author, composer or whatever, so be it. But, even without that, the basic knowledge and skills from high school should give a person the ability to also study and learn things on their own, in whatever field, where they don’t go to college (either at all, or postponed for other reasons). I’ve seen so many people either A) not complete high school or B) complete it and NEVER want to have anything to do with any sort of schooling or educating themselves again, and this tells me that so-called “education” up through the high school level is FAILING our kids and country as a whole. Authoritarian methods, which are so common, and way too many little tyrants teaching in and running our schools, are enough to crush any willingness and ability of our young people to learn and make a successful go of life. Sure, there are teachers and administrators that are the exception to the “little tyrants” as I call them, and the good teachers and administrators are gems that should be placed on pedestals and given all the help and wherewithal that can be mustered to help our young people — and just this would go a long way in turning things around for the country as a whole.

    We could roll back 70 years of “new math” and other “teaching innovations”, much of which is and was based on “educating” our youth like mindless automatons so that they memorize data and regurgitate it onto examinations, and just that would see a resurgence of learning and ability to think and *use* the information studied in school.

  • rickroland

    Voting for Hillary would be just as bad, if not worse, but I am not saying that you should vote for Jeb at all, quite the opposite. I am done with the two major parties, unless and until I see a marked change in both. That marked change would be a very apparent collective change in words *and* deeds, that proves that they will and do abide by their solemn oaths of office *and* that they place the good of the country and the citizenry far far above their own party and individual political aspirations. I might not see such a change in my life time, but rest assured, I will won’t vote for a Democrat nor Republican again, I will only vote for third party conservative and even libertarian candidates on ballots and, if none are on the ballot, then neither Dem nor Rep will get my vote, I don’t care who they are — the parties themselves must drastically change (as I noted above) before I would even consider voting for one of their candidates, and even then, it would depend on the character and record of strict adherence to the Constitution by an individual candidate.

  • Anonymous

    You forgot to mention that the primary reason for outsourcing was a lower wage scale, lower health benefit costs, lower retirement cost benefits and a complicit Congress in passing their infamous trade agreement.

  • Anonymous

    May I suggest you contact Freedom Baptist Curiculum in Haines City, FL. 1-800-700-LFBC.

  • Anonymous

    Even in states that say that you can find an “umbrella” private school to oversee your curriculum and not have anything to do with common core. What amazes me are parents who think they’re homeschooling when all they’re doing is using public school curriculum at home.

  • zemla

    I’m guessing you are a high school teacher? I did tech school for half the day in my high school so my regular classes were always with the “bad kids”….some of the best teachers there, they had given up on the “standards” and basically taught us about life in the real world….much better than the AP classes I had left, they just gave us more work (not more challenging, just more quantity) and the teachers didn’t seem to care that much…

  • zemla

    Ever see a Mcguffey reader? I had some as a kid (thanks grams!)..check out the 6th grade reader…Lotta high schoolers are going to struggle with that one….

    No,seriously,they are.

  • zemla

    Though I agree with you, landree has a point, though I’m not sure he goes far enough with it. So I might add

    1-much of America’s success is based on imported talent
    2-it is both arrogant and ignorant to assume that all other nations will be forever behind and subservient. God knows we’ve had it good, but more and more people are showing up ready and able to grab a slice of the pie….which means there is less pie for all.

    This is a terrible medium for making making these points as it is hard to flush them out. sorry.

  • zemla

    Or find a contestant you actually believe in….just sayin’…

  • zemla

    I’m 28, and frankly cursive is a waste, much more so for kids who have cells and ipads now as infants. I’m glad I know cursive, and take some pride in it not looking like scribbles, but from the viewpoint of the modern world it IS a waste….until one needs to communicate quietly, without electronics…

    I’m being only slightly sarcastic at the end, but look, if someone is 40 or 50+, maybe they took a typing class? Maybe you wrote more than you typed? Today it is the exact opposite, that’s all I’m trying to say here

  • zemla

    I’d agree with that, I remember junior/senior high kids in AP English using their finger to read aloud

  • Sammi De La Cruz

    C.C. is the continuing of the dumbing down of our education. In the given the root of -6 and 5 what is the correct equation. Not what of the 4 equation is the right one. We have stopped giving our children a real education I do not know when it started to get that way but it needs to stop. Our children should be getting everything they need to be knowledgeable about everything by the time they are finish with the 12 grade. They need more hours in school. We need to back in all of the stuff taking out of schools so our government could dumb us down. We need to stop helping other countries until we get our country back on track. Till all able body Americans are working, our school are teaching every thing that they taught in the past. There are ways to fix us but we need to get rid of all of the old guard in Congress for starters and vote in people who want to make American better.

  • nena

    Oh I understand, I worked at the Graduate level computer science dept. of a major, Ivy league university and it was all International students, Chinese and Indian mostly. in the big old midwestern state schools too. It’s been that way for a long time, though, since the 70s, 80s. common core just started, testing is not even being counted right now, for at least 3 years of implementation.

  • Anonymous

    that says it all

  • tomcat709

    not to preach to the choir, but CC is as “Pink Floyd” says, our children are being taught to vote for the coming dictatorship in Washington, DC to just be “Another Brick In The (Their) Wall”

  • Anonymous

    Parents is a small Upstate New York have taken the local school board by storm over the ‘teaching of common core!’ With a population of less that 20,000 peolpe-over 5,000 parents raised their disapproval over common core at a recently held school board meeting!
    And it’s sad to report that some people have said to me ‘Well, if the teachers are teaching it–it must be a good thing!’
    Alot of parents still are way out of touch!

  • Guest

    we only need the DOE like we need a hole in our heads. The DOE is government control. I thought the states are supposed to be in charge of our schools. They all sold themselves out for a measly $140K. Who needs the education here????

  • Jo Oliver

    we need the DOE like we need a hole in our heads. Common Core is government control. I thought the local communities are supposed to be in control of what happens to OUR children. All who take it are selling themselves to the devil for a measly $140K. GOD Help us all!

  • Anonymous

    A good idea gone bad, hijacked by Obama and the Publishing companies (Pearson) and greedy states. One fallacy is ‘raising standards’ which is frequently taken to mean putting fifth grade standards in fourth grade. What we need to do is to define general competencies which is rather nicely done in IEP meetings (division of simple fractions to 80% correct) and then adhere to them. Drill and practice. (BTW Fractions do not work very well on a computer).
    Also; political statements are not welcome in either Math or English worksheets.

  • Anonymous

    That is correct, and it becomes necessary to tell the educational Nazis whatever they want to hear, and then teach whatever you want to teach. That’s called ‘playing the game.’

  • Anonymous

    No. He is pro-amnesty, pro-common core, last name is Bush (which is not totally a bad thing). We have better; including Perry, Jindal, even Romney. Rubio isn’t bad either, if he’d commit to building the fence FIRST. Cruz isn’t bad, but I want him for AG so we can see Holder perpwalked to Leavenworth for a life sentence +50 years.

  • Anonymous

    Locals should decide on the curriculum appropriate to the grade level. ‘Standards’ is a term state-level bureaucrats throw around at each other. It should define conpetencies and stay away from methodology and materials.

  • Anonymous

    Local government.

  • Anonymous

    Where and when was this survey given out?

  • Anonymous

    ‘Raising Standards’ is code for putting 5th grade curriculum into 4th grade. It is inappropriate. Standards should be a list of competencies, not methods or materials, and they don’t need to be ‘raised’ if they’re appropriate to the age, maturity level and intelligence of the class. They do need to be adhered to as a framework. The ‘Common Core’ and all its baggage has gotten completely off track.

  • Danna Sapp

    If you don’t do a government program, you shouldn’t have any problem finding a curriculum that’s CC free. We homescool and don’t do a program and we’re completely CC free. We use Sonlight which can get expensive but http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amblesideonline.org%2F&h=KAQGd-1JE is practically free and there are many others. Homeschooling is a very competitive market right now, don’t settle for what the government provides.

  • Anonymous

    That is unethical and illegal, just so you know.

  • Anonymous

    Yes. Horse/Cart. A ‘test’ is to work-sample where child is in the curriculum, not the ultimate objective. They have become a measure to grade and reward teachers, schools and districts which ought to be beside the point, and a cash cow for publishing companies who also publish textbooks aligned with the tests rather than the ideal curriculum standards.

  • Anonymous

    There is an 1890 vintage 8th grade test floating around somewhere for example. I would have trouble with it. (of course 8th grade was it for most kids back then; some teachers had 8th grade educations.)

  • nena

    haha, really? well, you are not letting me know, which part of my comment was illegal? teaching the resumes and job applications, or the liberal doctrine? or both? or speaking out critically of colleagues for doing all of the above? or does it depend on which state you are living in?

  • nena

    I am curious which town in upstate New York? I know it’s sad what you are saying, so many parents are out of touch, they just automatically turn their kids over to the schools, with blind trust. I have many, many times, mentioned common core to parents (friends and acquaintances), from all different parts of the country, most who supposedly are well educated and informed, and after I am finished talking, they look at me blankly and have said, “What’s common core?”

  • nena

    You explained it very well in layman’s terms. I’ve heard it’s crony capitalism by socialists.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly.

  • Anonymous

    Low cost is the obvious reason for outsourcing. America invited the world to trade freely and the result is a lowering of American’s standard of living and rising Chinese and Indian standard. What’s fueling outsourcing is American demand for cheap stuff and business’ goal of maximizing profit. Common Core isn’t the problem, its a measurement of the problem. Glenn’s effort to stop Common Core is misguided. He’d be better to participate in a solution than to fight an attempt at a solution.

  • grassroot

    Far Left Liberal Fascism, as we see all throughout this administration.

  • Sheila Gazlay

    And this reading test is to see if students (kids) are ready to go to college? Very few pre-college students are going to be able to do this test. Plain and simple: Too many concepts, too many questions, problems within problems (You have to understand the concepts to even answer the questions.) And I just looked at the English part. I don’t know about wanting to do away with community colleges, they are a big business but just looking at this test it becomes obvious the goal is to make sure only a certain type of student passes. I wonder if students are being singled out in some way and helped more so that they can pass. My son, who never had a reading problem, was singled out years ago to do a program called Reading Readiness. I figured they just needed one of their three African American students in there and it wouldn’t hurt. Now, well let’s just say I’m Soo glad I’m done with all of that. It’d be downright scarey to have a child in public school now- it was scarey enough the first time.

  • Mary

    This is not good for our kids.. This grading system is meant to make our kids feel like failures.. My sister was a high school senior this year, her high school implemented this last year and my sis went from strait A’s to C’s and B’s.. When she told me that they weren’t grading homework anymore I knew something was very wrong.. Everything our kids work hard on should be graded and most of their hard work is their homework!! This takes away the incentive to even do homework.. It seems to me they’re breaking down our kid’s work ethic.. I don’t know, I haven’t done much research on this Common Core, but I can tell something is amiss.. And sure enough I google it and find this article and many more.. We just need God back in school…