“I’ve never had a subpoena” the Democratic candidate said in an interview. Really? Is this just a “right wing conspiracy” out to get her? Nope, plenty of Congressmen have subpoenaed the former Secretary of State, although most didn’t do it in a public manner. After he heard the lie, Trey Gowdy called her out. Once again, Hillary is playing every political trick in the book.
— Speaker John Boehner (@SpeakerBoehner) July 8, 2015
Below is a rush transcript of this segment, it may contain errors:
PAT: A CNN reporter did an interview with Hillary Clinton. And here’s one of the things that she said during that interview.
HILLARY: I’ve never had a subpoena. Let’s take a deep breath here.
PAT: Okay. Wait a minute.
HILLARY: I’ve never had a subpoena. Let’s take a deep breath here.
PAT: She’s never had a subpoena. Let’s take a deep breath here. Like, can you please stop listening to these incredible lies that that are being told about me?
STU: Now, I know when she does an interview with BET and they ask the same question, she’ll say, check yourself before you wreck yourself.
Because that what Hillary does. She alters her speech depending on the audience. So here she says take a deep breath. But essentially she was saying check yourself before you wreck yourself. She’s never had a subpoena. People need to know the truth. So they released it then.
PAT: It’s amazing too, that Boehner didn’t make it public. Gowdy didn’t make it public.
STU: Any given time they will slightly benefit her for the moment.
PAT: It’s interesting. Because what’s her thought process going into that, saying something like that, that I’ve never had a subpoena. Let’s take a deep breath here.
What’s the thought process? Because does she think — does she believe Trey Gowdy will sit quietly, that he will be silent about this? John Boehner is going to — if they were Democrats, she might rest easy on that belief that they might help her out on this. She can’t believe that Gowdy and Boehner won’t come forward with those subpoenas. Can she?
JEFFY: She rolls the dice. She figures, if they come clean with it, I just say, oh, that’s right.
PAT: Maybe at this point, she thinks that gets lost in the shuffle. Or, I’m just going to push this off long enough. Not talk about it long enough. People will forget about it like they did with Benghazi. Like Obama with did the IRS scandal. Like we’ve done with everything that’s come out in the last six years. Maybe. I don’t know. It’s kind of weird though. Because the Republicans aren’t going to help her out with that. And they didn’t.
STU: No. Maybe there’s a calculation made that the media is going to help and that people have short attention spans. So don’t admit to something on record so they can play you back saying it. Instead, you say I didn’t get a subpoena. And what’s going to have to happen to prove her lie? Well, you’ll have to have her saying that and then show the subpoena. A two-step process the media will never engage in. My guess, maybe they’ll show it. I didn’t watch the news last night. Maybe they showed it on some of the channels. But it’s not going to get a lot of attention, certainly. And they feel like, okay, you get another little bump. And it goes by the wayside again. This is another example of why they don’t let her do interviews. This is her first national campaign since the campaign started. And, again, a horrible, pointless mistake. I mean, look, all you have to say is, you know, well, what about these subpoenas that you’ve been getting? Look, I don’t know. The lawyers deal with all that stuff. I don’t deal with it. What I’m telling you is I’m trustworthy. I’m the person — I don’t know all those legal details. That’s not what I do.
To say a rock hard statement that you have no — never received a subpoena is the worst possible thing you can do.
PAT: And it reminds me of what her husband did during the Lewinksy scandal.
BILL: I want you to listen to me. I’m going to say this again. I did not have sexual relations with that woman. Ms. Lewinksy. I never told anybody to lie, not a single time. Never. These allegations are false.
BILL: And I need to go back to work for the American people.
PAT: Now, isn’t it reminiscent of that? He was so resolute in that. You mentioned before, Stu. You believed him.
STU: I did. I legit believed him.
PAT: Of course, you were 12. How old were you?
PAT: ’97, ’98.
STU: So I was 22.
PAT: And you bought into it.
STU: Yeah. And here’s the reason. Not because I thought Bill Clinton was trustworthy. Even at the moment, I knew that. But my thought was, nobody would have the balls to say it like that if they knew the possibility existed that they could get caught.
PAT: That’s — yes. I still didn’t believe him. But I thought, wow — it made me wavered a little bit. As much as I disliked Clinton, it made me waver just a little bit in my belief that he did that because I thought, come on. You can’t make a statement that definitive.
STU: Right. It’s not that I had a high opinion of Bill Clinton. Just from a personal survival standpoint, most people wouldn’t do that.
PAT: Right. And it hadn’t been done before, to my knowledge.
STU: Yeah. Not yet. Now, Anthony Weiner did it too. Same exact thing, and I still didn’t believe Anthony Weiner. Though it did cross my mind, he couldn’t have possibly taken this picture because he continually is making so many statements about it —
PAT: Are you talking about the Weiner statement, oh, I wish that was mine? I wish was me. Look at that guy.
JEFFY: That’s the one that sold me. That maybe it isn’t his.
STU: Because think of the psychosis that goes into making that statement. It’s a picture that you know is you. To lie about it being you, and then compliment yourself so awkwardly that I wish I really looked like that. When you knew it was you. That’s psychotic.
PAT: Look at that donnus (phonetic). I can only dream of looking like that.
STU: I would use the word cannoli as I said that. But, still, I understand what you’re going for. And I think the point here is that there’s a certain type of — of person that, I don’t know if you want to call it — just that — you’re almost exiting your own body. And you’re able to lie that dramatically about, you know, your situation. Another person who I will put in that category, although I don’t have a personal example is Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
PAT: Oh, my gosh.
STU: She will say anything. It doesn’t matter how absurd it is. How ridiculous. If it benefits her at that second, sure, they’re going to fact-check it in five seconds and once you’re off the air and everyone will know you’re lying, but, man, does she not care. There’s a personal power in that. It’s like Anthony Robins used to those personal power infomercials where he would tell you to believe in yourself. There’s a personal power Debbier Wasserman could teach people to not feel bad about being so dishonest. That’s an incredible thing that most people can’t pull off convincingly. She will look dead into the camera and say the opposite of the truth, knowing she’s doing it and it doesn’t matter. It’s an amazing talent.
PAT: We have to play that clip of her that we played yesterday on Pat & Stu. Because it’s astounding. It will be a great example of what you’re talking about. She will look you straight in the face and lie. But, of course, we’ve learned over the past six years, so can Obama. I mean, the Democrats have become so unbelievably adept at their lies that I think they convince a lot of people that they’re telling the truth. And it seems to work with at least half of the American people. If you want someone you can trust, if you want someone who will look you in the eye and tell you the truth, somebody that usually doesn’t waver.