With Glenn on vacation, entrepreneur and former police officer John Cardillo filled in on The Glenn Beck Program Tuesday. Townhall columnist Kurt Schlichter joined him to discuss what America might look like if Hillary Clinton had won the election.
“Every day I wake up giggling and smiling at the utter rejection and humiliation of Hillary Clinton, and with a sense of exhilaration at the giant bullet America dodged,” Schlichter said.
Listen to the segment or read the transcript below.
JOHN: Now, I don’t know if you’re like me, but one of the shows I really enjoy, one of the television shows I really enjoy — it’s actually on Amazon, I’ll just call it Amazon on demand or Amazon digital streaming. Is The Man In the High Castle, which is a great show. Some people don’t like it. I find it really interesting. I binge watch it. And if you don’t know what it’s about — it’s about — if Germany and Japan had won World War II. Germany controls the eastern part of the United States. Their headquarters in New York City. The Nazis do. And the Japanese empire controls the west coast, with their headquarters in San Francisco. So I watched season two. And I think season two launched — they released season two, December 16th. Well, three days after that, Kurt Schlichter, Townhall columnist, did a story that I call The Woman With the High Collar. And it was entitled The Terrifying Aftermath of Hillary’s Election Victory. If Hillary Clinton — what America would look like if Hillary Clinton had won the presidential election. And Kurt Schlichter joins me now to discuss — you know, Kurt, you scared me with this. You know, Man In the High Castle is a little bit depressing. You wonder what might have been. Then three days later you put this in my face.
KURT: Well, you know, I’m always there for you, John.
JOHN: You are. You are.
So tell us a little bit about what America would look like if we had Madam Clinton of being inaugurated in three weeks.
KURT: I don’t even like you saying that. I have a terrible cold right now, and you’ve made me feel worse.
Look, every day I wake up giggling and smiling at the utter rejection and humiliation of Hillary Clinton. And with a sense of exhilaration at the giant bullet America dodged because that — we — we — we told that daughter (phonetic) and corrupt monster, go back to Chappaqua. Just think about what would have happened if she had won. First of all, I think we’d all be choking on her smugness. The smugness in the media. The smugness issuing from her, of just the — the utter — utter hate and contempt they’d express for the rest of us. We’d be written out of the game.
JOHN: Let me ask you, Kurt, do you think they would be preaching unity and reaching across the aisle and concessions and — and we need the White House to understand that there’s another half of America, or would they be saying? Elections have consequences, again, deal with it.
KURT: Let me think about the track record of the last eight years. Yeah, I’ll go with option two.
KURT: Can you imagine the stream of leftist monsters she would be appointing?
JOHN: Well, that’s the thing.
KURT: Oh, climate change weirdos. Anti-DOJ people. Forget every investigating any corruption anymore.
JOHN: But the Supreme Court — you’re an attorney — yeah, you’re a trial attorney and you’re a legal scholar, the Supreme Court, I argue, the Supreme Court would have been tipped from 25 to 35 years, depending on the age of somebody she appointed.
Because, look, if Trump say nominates a Ted Cruz, right? What is Cruz? 45 years old. He’s a healthy guy. Cruz could conceivably sit on the court for 35 years.
KURT: Oh, I would love that.
JOHN: How terrifying is that if Hillary appointed a 45-year-old far left radical?
KURT: Look. Just think of what we would have. You know, discovering a constitutional requirement that we all, you know, chip in to pay for long-term abortions.
KURT: How about the Second Amendment. Nope. How about the First Amendment?
JOHN: That would be gone.
KURT: Oh, well, there are exceptions now. Stuff like that.
JOHN: As an attorney, what do you think — and you’ve been a great satirist of the political process. I’m speaking with Townhall columnist Kurt Schlichter, who is also a trial lawyer, and I should note, a retired colonel in the United States Army, served 27 years. You know, Kurt, what do you think that a left — a Hillary Clinton-appointed Supreme Court, had she won, thank God she didn’t — what do you think the top three agenda items they would have gone after? Would have been. I think Second Amendment, First Amendment.
KURT: Yeah, Second Amendment definitely. First Amendment.
You have to understand, she keeps talking about Citizens United. Citizens United was a case brought to determine whether the government could criminally prosecute you for putting out a movie critical of — wait for it — Hillary Clinton.
Now, here’s Hillary Clinton’s argument. The government has the power, despite the First Amendment, to put you in jail if you put out a movie criticizing her. Let’s roll that around in our heads for a minute.
JOHN: You know what’s interesting, I never heard that on CNN.
KURT: No. You never heard that. I was on with some leftist on some show. And, you know, being a lawyer and having a legal background, I said, do you know what Citizens United was?
It’s about money.
Well, let me ask you something: If Citizens United resolved in your favor, what do you think the appropriate jail sentence for someone putting a movie critical of Hillary Clinton, that Hillary Clinton like should be? And she gives me this blank stare. And I’m like, “You do know what Citizens United is about. You do know that the solicitor general of the United States went up and heard you before the United States Supreme Court that the government could ban a book.”
JOHN: Right. But what people were told — and you know this. You and I have discussed this on my show. People were told — the American public was sold by the DNC’s cohorts in the media, that Citizens United was all about big bad rich corporations run by Republican conservatives, being able to donate to political campaigns. That’s what most Americans believe that citizens united is about. Prior to it, you could only make an individual contribution to a hard money campaign. Now corporations can do it.
They have no idea that it has anything to do with the First Amendment and production of media projects.
KURT: Well, you know, this is — that they would allow the government to put people in jail for being critical of the government is not a flaw in the eyes of Hillary Clinton. That is a feature.
KURT: Hillary Clinton is not a believer in freedom. She is not a believer in free expression. She is a leftist totalitarian who hates us.
JOHN: I’m concerned about one thing though. I think I lost some money here. I was going to surprise you here. It was a Christmas present. I bought you a plane ticket to New York with me, and we were going to walk through the woods, looking for Hillary together. I really thought you would enjoy that. But now I’m a little concerned that I might have missed the mark on that one.
KURT: Oh, I like how she’s wandering through Whole Foods, taking selfies with random losers. People going, “I cried for so long, Hillary. Now I can’t make love to my husband because Trump’s won.” And their husband is sitting there going, “Yes!”
JOHN: And she’s walking through the woods like finding Bigfoot, that reality show. It’s like people are out there with GPS and night vision, finding Hillary in the woods of Chappaqua. It is the most bizarre thing.
KURT: How about The Nightmare of Naked and Alone with Hillary. Ugh.
KURT: That’s scarier than anything in Man In the High Castle.
JOHN: Yeah, survivor man, Chappaqua. You’re out there with your little GoPro on your little tripod.
KURT: Can you imagine how horrifying it would be? Because this is a woman — and, again, I have to say it, and I want to be very clear, she and her cohorts hate us. They don’t dislike us. They don’t find us opponents. They hate us and want to do things to harm us, simply because they can. There is no other reason — for example, the giant cake baking thing has happened.
JOHN: Right. Right.
KURT: Other than just to rub our faces in their power. And what happens when you rub America’s — Americans’ faces in something for long enough. You’re a student of history. You’re a New Yorker. You were a cop. How do Americans react when you push and push and push?
JOHN: Well, look, it’s about power though. You nailed it, right?
Hillary Clinton has had power in some form for 40 years — 30-some-odd years, right? She was the wife of the attorney general of Arkansas, in a state like Arkansas in the ’80s. That’s pretty powerful.
Then wife of the governor. That’s really powerful. Then went to the White House, which is the ultimate power. I mean, remember that debacle back in the ’90s when she mapped out that convoluted Rube Goldberg rendition of health care?
KURT: Oh, yeah.
JOHN: On that whiteboard. And the congressmen were all sitting there like dogs looking at a milk bone dog biscuit, like they were just utterly confused. What in the world is this woman talking about?
And then she kind of disappeared. And — and — but what’s even worse is Hillary Clinton was Bill Clinton’s liaison on the hill, who sold the most radical anti-gay agenda in history, right? Defense of Marriage Act. Freedom Restoration Act. Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell. And you didn’t hear a word about that.
I mean, now, the reinvented Queen Hillary was the champion of gay rights. She sold Bill Clinton’s crime bill on the hill. Look, I was a cop. I benefited. I got a new gun. We got new cars. But we also got these Draconian sentences. And we were locking guys up for dumb drug offenses. And our lieutenants were shaking their head, going, “This is the south Bronx, why are we doing this?” That was all Hillary Clinton. And it was always about power. The ability to impose the power of the Clinton regime.
KURT: Absolutely. Absolutely. And I think it frankly would have torn this country apart. Imagine — I just came back from Texas. Spent a few days there over Christmas with my wife’s family. Texas is vibrant. The economy is moving.
JOHN: It’s doing great.
KURT: It’s doing great. Now, can you imagine when Hillary’s EPA says no more fracking. No more oil drilling. We’re going to leave it in the ground because of this global warming pagan nonsense.
JOHN: It’s so ridiculous. That’s what they’re afraid of, Kurt. That’s what they’re afraid of. They’re afraid of energy exploration. Because look at North Dakota.
Energy exploration is the quickest path to prosperity and job creation. Really in terms of US industry, it’s the quickest path. You pull oil and natural gas out of the ground, you need thousands of bodies to get it to market. Progressives are terrified of that.
KURT: Well, and they can’t take any of that power. They don’t get the money. They don’t get the power.
With these green — this green nonsense — the Solyndras, they can reward their friends. They can choose winners and losers. It’s more power and more money for them. That’s the common — this is the common key. Remember in the ’70s when they were talking about the impending ice age.
JOHN: Yes, I do. I was in school. I was terrified. I went and bought — I wanted new winter coats for Christmas every year. I didn’t even want toys.
KURT: And, of course, their solution was more money and power for liberals.
JOHN: Of course. And, look, it’s the same people —
KURT: Same with the ozone hole.
JOHN: Acid rain was the — yeah, that was big in the late ’80s. Early ’90s.
You know, Kurt, it’s always an absolute — I feel so much after I talk to you. And after the show, I’m going to give you a call. I’m going to get you to Chappaqua with me. We’re going to walk through the woods.
KURT: We should go. We need a camera crew.
JOHN: We got to go. Kurt Schlichter, everybody. Catch him on Townhall.com. The great Colonel Schlichter will be speaking soon my friend.
You’ve been with John Cardillo. Well, you’re still with John Cardillo, sitting in for Glenn Beck. The Glenn Beck Program. We’ll be right back.
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