If you could save your child by giving up your citizenship, would you? Wednesday on radio, Glenn answered that question.

“I would relinquish my citizenship so fast from a country that was trying to take my child away and telling me that they have power over all of the decisions, life and death, of my child,” Glenn said on radio Wednesday.

Chris Gard and Connie Yates have been fighting for the right use experimental treatment for their infant son, who has been diagnosed as terminally ill due to a rare genetic condition. With no other available options, the British couple crowdfunded more than £1.3M to cover a trip to the U.S. to work with doctors specializing in similar cases.

In a move that shows U.S. legislatorss are actually capable of quickly taking action, the House Appropriations Committee has granted permanent resident status to Charlie Gard and his family so he can get the medical treatment needed in the U.S.

This is a rush transcript and may contain errors.

GLENN: There’s a couple things we want to do today. First of all, I want to bring you up to speed on the Donald Trump — the latest allegation. But I want you to know, this program — I am sick and tired — I can’t even watch cable news. Are you guys watching cable news? I can’t even watch it anymore. This is part of my job. We run a network that is supposedly, you know, bringing you up to speed on everything that everybody is talking about. And I cannot watch a show that is starting with Donald Trump. Because there’s no — there’s no — what is the use of this?

Here’s an idea: Why don’t we let the investigators do their investigation. We’ll just keep you up to speed from time to time on what’s happening. We’ll keep all the stories as they roll out. And when there’s something actual to report, then we’ll report on that.

Yesterday, there was another disturbing story — there was two. One, Donald Trump Jr. has added yet another name to this meeting that he had. I mean, what is — just, why would you do this? Just come out with all the names.

So they let another drip come in and named somebody else who was in the room. And then we find out that Donald Trump had an hour-long meeting, one on one, with Vladimir Putin. And the disturbing part of this is that he did not bring the American translator, which is against national security protocol. You have to have the American translator. So the American president can trust that everything is being translated correctly. That’s a rule. That was broken. Went in. Donald Trump said it was nothing.

But for the love of Pete, can you stop doing things that just make it worse? But do we know anything? No. What we’re going to get is a bunch of people on television selling telling us that Trump is God. And the other group telling us that he is Satan. I don’t have we have a ruling in either of those. Everybody is just reinforcing their opinion. That’s the update on the Trump thing. Let’s move on until we have some actual facts to back things up.

Now, let me take you to Charlie Gard. Charlie Gard is this 11-month-old kid who has a rare genetic disease. He’s being kept literally against his will in a children’s hospital. The children’s hospital in — in England is the children’s hospital that gets all of the royalties for Peter Pan.

So as — every time a Peter Pan movie is made, every time Peter Pan books sell, this is the recipient of those monies. They are holding him because the parents say we don’t want him to die in this hospital. We want to take him. The Vatican has said they would take him. The Vatican gave Vatican citizenship. And in America, there is a doctor who is now over in England examining Charlie that is saying, I think we have some procedures that we can do here that may work. May not.

Now, if the family didn’t have money, you would have, to me, at least a case that the hospital could say, look, you know, we don’t have the money to have experimental stuff going on, et cetera, et cetera. But it would at least be a — a conversation of the value of life.

What we’re having now is a, who is the guardian here? What right does the government have to tell the parents you can’t have experimental treatment?

It’s not like the people who say, I’m going to — you know, I’m going to pray cancer away. I’m going to pray AIDS away. You know, in my opinion, you have a right to do that.

We always stop that because we say, “Oh, the children — the children. If we can just save one life. We’ve got to interfere with these parents.” This is the exact opposite. This is the state interfering with the parents who are saying, “My child has a chance to live.” They have $1.7 million.

So they can take him out of the hospital. Move him. And have this experimental procedure done. But the government doesn’t want to let go because they’re going to have this problem all over the United Kingdom if they do.

So they’re holding on. The Supreme Court of the United Kingdom has also ruled, they are holding off on pulling his feeding tube until this — this American doctor finishes his examine. And then they will consider what he has to say.

Yesterday, Congress granted him citizenship. Him and the family, so they could come over from the United Kingdom. They have citizenship. So they have full rights as citizens of the United States, to take their baby out of this hospital and bring them over to the United States.

My question is: If the United States government was doing this to you and the situation was reversed and you know how you feel about the United States — well, think about the best times about how you feel about the United States. I would relinquish my citizenship so fast from a country that was trying to take my child away and telling me that they have power over all of the decisions, life and death of my child. Am I alone on that?

PAT: No.

GLENN: I can’t even imagine — if this child dies in the hospital, if I am that family, I relinquish my citizenship. I don’t want to be a part of that country.

PAT: And I think I would be a little less than polite to the hospital administration.

STU: Angry letter, or is that — would you usually go that far?

PAT: There might be a strongly worded letter.

STU: Oh, my gosh.

GLENN: Imagine a Texan in this situation.

PAT: Oh, jeez.

GLENN: Imagine Marcus Luttrell. There would be a SEAL out taking that child out.

PAT: I would be arrested by now. The parents are behaving really well under the circumstances. To — I mean, this is like the — do you remember the co-parent thing from Canada that people think that they’re the parents, but they’re only co-parents with the government?

GLENN: Yes. Yes. Yes.

PAT: I mean, I don’t know that the actual parents are even co-parents.

GLENN: Not in this. And this happens in American children hospitals as well. Once you check the child in, the child is the responsibility of the hospital, not of — not yours anymore. You can’t check him out. I mean, it is Hotel California. We found that out with the — what was her name? The — I want to say Lapierre. But it wasn’t.

PAT: Oh, yeah. Pelletier.

GLENN: The girl up in Boston. Pelletier, that checked in. Then they wouldn’t let her go.

PAT: What was that a year? Two years? Something?

GLENN: A year and a half, and she’s never really recovered on that. She’s back at home and never really recovered.

PAT: Yeah.


PAT: Very.

STU: But you said they don’t want to do this because they’re going to get this situation all over the country. But what situation? The opportunity for children to live better lives? To live longer lives?

GLENN: Once you — once this system — this is my understanding of it. Once this system declares that, okay. Well, you can leave because maybe there is something. Then every child that is having a problem, the doctors are like, well, I want another opinion. I want to try this.

STU: Well, I mean, again, when I think you’re a government health care program. First of all, don’t have one. But if you do have one, then I do think they get the right to decide what they pay for. At some point, they can make that decision.

GLENN: Yeah, but here’s the problem: They don’t have the right to trap you in.

STU: That’s the point.

GLENN: If the hospital says, I don’t have the money to treat it, you should be able to leave or take that child out of the hospital —

PAT: Fine. We’ll go somewhere somebody can.

GLENN: And if I wanted to do Wiccan stuff, you’re not doing anything. If I wanted to just burn a bunch of incense and dance around an open fire in the middle of the night, that’s what I’m going to do. Because you’re doing nothing.

STU: I saw on the internet incense cures almost everything.

GLENN: Right. Right.

STU: One single trick with incense will cure almost everything.


STU: But it’s true. The downside for the hospital, I can’t see it. Because, yes, you’re right, they don’t want to have a fight with the parent on the way they treat people. And that’s understandable. I disagree with the way they do things there, obviously. But the situation where they’re saying, we will take the kid. We will bring them somewhere else. You will not be treating them. We will pay for it.

These things eliminate all of those concerns.

GLENN: Right. All of those concerns. All of those concerns. We’ll get into what happened in health care here in a second. But do you guys know the history of this hospital? Do you know the history of Peter Pan? Do you know what this story really is about?

STU: It’s really twisted. Isn’t it?

GLENN: Kind of. It’s dark. But it’s not necessarily twisted.

STU: The original story is pretty dark.

GLENN: Yeah. No, the original story is very dark. The original story is about a child. Peter Pan is dying. And it’s a story about a child that doesn’t want to die. And so goes off to Never Never
Land, where all the children are. And so the entire thing is about dying children and — and how they go off some place. And the parents come and rescue Peter Pan.

And so the parents get help for Peter Pan. How does this hospital continue to get the money from Peter Pan when they’re doing the exact opposite? They’re cutting him loose and going, no, stay in Never Never Land. (sound effect)

And that’s why the ticking clock of — you know, of the crocodile, the ticking clock is time. And that’s why Captain Hook is afraid of time. Because time will kill. As the time goes by, you’re going to die.

PAT: Right.

GLENN: And here’s this hospital that has that as its legacy, and it’s too good the exact opposite. Our sponsor this half-hour is SimpliSafe.