The Google software engineer whose 10-page memo critiquing Google’s diversity programs went viral over the weekend has been fired. In a statement, Google CEO Sundar Pichai said that “portions of the memo violate our Code of Conduct and cross the line by advancing harmful gender stereotypes in our workplace.”
Along with other problems outlined in the memo, the engineer who was fired objected to Google diversity programs that are only geared toward women and minorities. “How do you fix discrimination with discrimination?” Glenn asked on radio Tuesday.
The engineer’s memo outlined some general differences between men and women and hypothesized that every gender gap isn’t automatically due to sexism. If Google truly values diversity, then the company should be aware that people have differences.
“This is the heart wanting to be the head, or the foot wanting to be the hand,” Glenn said. “Everything is unique and has purpose.”
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This is a rush transcript and may contain errors.
GLENN: Hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. We have the details on the last few minutes of Charlie Gard’s life. Really touching. We want to share with you today. Also, calling all fascists. We need to hear — and I mean this sincerely — I need to hear from somebody who really does not see what Google did as fascism. Because I can’t make it work in my own head. I don’t know how you don’t see that. So if you happen to be somebody who has followed this story about, you know, one of their Google engineers saying, “Look our diversity program is limiting diversity. It is harming the company. It is harming people and our society. We’re on the wrong track. There are reasons for some of these diversity problems. And we have to have an open and honest discussion about them.”
He made a very reasoned case. Boy, the left is celebrating that Google terminated him yesterday. This is corporate fascism. And I don’t want to try to convince you, if you happen to be listening, “Glenn, you’re completely wrong on this.” I want to hear from you. Because I do not understand your opinion, and I really want to. Because so on if that’s you, 888-727-BECK. Call us right now.
There’s a lot to discuss about the road to fascism and Google and Apple and Facebook. Let’s have that discussion. Something that actually will make a difference in our lifetime. We do that, right now.
GLENN: Google has fired an employee who wrote a ten-page memo critiquing the company’s leftist monopoly. An anonymous employee had the bravery to write a ten-page memo. And this memo is really well written . And it’s really intelligent. You may not agree with everything in it. I think I did. I mean, I only read it once. But I don’t think there was anything in there I really disagreed with.
He talks about diversity, and that you cannot correct a diversity problem without looking at all of the facts. For instance, he talks about software engineers. And they are now at Google offering classes for different things. But if you are, for instance, a white male, you cannot attend those classes. Google is not allowing you to learn those things.
Well, why? How do you fix discrimination with discrimination? That’s like, “We’re going to stop all these slave owners. We’re going to enslave all the slave owners. And the slaves can own the slave owners.” No, that’s not fixing slavery. That’s just switching places.
Well, we have to do something.
No. Not like that. And so he points out that you’re creating more problems by having these — these discriminatory practices. And then you’re also denying basic science. And now, what he’s saying is, there is a biological difference between men and women.
Since when — since when has Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus, become crazy, bigoted, outrageous, needs to be banned? We all understand this, if you live with a member of the opposite sex.
There are things that women do and say and think and emote that for the life of me, I have tried. I’ve got four women in my house. I’ve got my three daughters and my wife. And no matter how hard I try, I just don’t understand them all the time. And they don’t understand me.
And yet, my son and I, we’re in lockstep. We can look at each other just across the table and just like, “There is it is. Don’t understand that one. How did that one happen?”
Now, that doesn’t mean that we don’t love them, appreciate them, hold them in a place that is exactly the same as me, as just as valid. Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus, and they’d do the same thing.
We have different languages. We have — we have a different approach to life. And this is the thing that has become so frustrating to me lately is I don’t understand this.
We would never say, “Well, no. I can’t even say this anymore.” We would never say, you know, “Men are from Mars, women are from Venus, and so we’ve got to blow up Mars or Venus before the other side gets here.” But that’s what we are doing.
We’re saying men are from Mars, women are from Venus, and if you think like somebody from Mars or you think like somebody from Venus, you’re the enemy. You’re the problem. And we need to shut you up.
No. This is the — this is the heart wanting to be the head or the foot wanting to be the hand. Everything is unique and has purpose. And it is the — it is the bringing together — I can’t believe — I can’t believe I’m in the position in this world to where I’m making the liberal case. To where I’m the one saying, “No. It’s the entire rainbow. It’s all of it. The diversity makes us stronger.”
Diversity, having a real conversation with somebody that is sometimes uncomfortable, makes you stronger. The only way — we are honestly saying, “Well, I want an exercise routine that would make me stronger and healthy, but I don’t — I don’t want to actually breathe heavy afterwards. I don’t want to be tired during. And I want no pain of my muscles afterwards.”
You know what you get? You get one of those exercise machines from can the 1920s that just like (sound effect). Moves your fat around. It does nothing. It does nothing.
Now, let me — let me ask people if you happen to agree with Google firing this guy, I want to hear from you. I don’t know if there’s going to be anybody in our audience. I hope there is. Because we have to have a dialogue. We have — I have to be able to understand your point of view. I’m not going to belittle you. Mock you. Try to change your mind. I really want to understand. Because I don’t.
And this is the way I view this. This is fascism.
And, again, I feel like I’m in the position where the left is supposed to be. This is corporate fascism. Look at what is happening. We’re closer to being a corporation than a country than ever before in my lifetime.
This has been going down this road for a very long time. But as long as we had the conversation, I foolishly dismissed that. But here we are. We’re in a place to where you’re telling me that Facebook, Apple, and Google don’t or couldn’t control the United States. Of course, they could.
Do you know — we found out last week that Apple alone has 56 billion dollars’ worth of US Treasury bonds. That is more than most countries hold.
Now, we have a problem with countries holding our US Treasury bonds because, if they don’t get their way, they can sell them and destabilize our economy.
Well, Apple wouldn’t do that. Right. Right. Right. I forgot about that. Just like China needs us. Just like North Korea will never get a nuke. Just like there never will be a caliphate. That’s ridiculous.
It’s different this time. It’s never different this time. Anybody who says it’s different this time, that should be your first sign that that person is not engaged in critical thinking. Because the first thing that you learn when you’re engaged in critical thinking is, it’s never different this time.
It’s always what the people who are on this new bandwagon, that’s what they always say, just before things go bad.
Human nature. What we’re doing — what the left is doing — and I am convinced — and maybe I’m wrong. But I am convinced that there are those people on the left that are just as afraid of the Antifa movement as I am. That are just as afraid of what’s happening on our college campuses — I am convinced that there are professors who helped unleash this nightmare, who now realize, “Oh, wait a minute — because people are people. They’re no different than many of us who thought our party was above all those things and realized, “Oh, crap. We’re exactly the same. We’re part of the problem.”
You can’t tell me that there aren’t those people in universities that aren’t thinking, “Oh, crap. What are we doing? This is going in the wrong direction. This is going against everything we stood for.”
You also can’t tell me that there aren’t people in Google — now, there are those, because they have been educated with this — this — this post-modernism, they’ve been educated with all of that nonsense, that they are no longer engaged in critical thinking. It is only social justice. And now it’s only about winning. But you can’t tell me that there’s only this guy in Google that feels this way. The reason why Google fired this guy is because they need to silence them. They need to make sure that when they say, “That’s not okay,” what they are sending the message is, and we will fire you. We will destroy you. We will smear you. Because your point of view is not okay anywhere.
Now, let me ask you, a company believes that they should fire, instead of having an intellectual dialogue — and I’m not talking about bringing in, you know, crazy people. I’m not saying you bring in flamethrowers and political nonsense. But have an actual dialogue with reasonable and educated people on both sides and you both walk away going, “Wow, I never thought of it that way. I don’t think I agree. But I never saw it that way,” you can’t tell me that that’s a bad thing. It’s not. And if you’re trying to silence the actual intellectual arguments of another side, you have become nothing more than the ancient church that would take scientists and lock them away or kill them.
You are becoming McCarthy. And I don’t understand how that’s not happening. And there’s something more disturbing because a company that says, “We won’t allow that kind of thinking in this company,” how could that company allow their search engine to find that opinion?
Because that’s the next step. If that company becomes so locked into its agenda and that its right and nothing else is right, how could they possibly allow this monologue to be found on Google in a positive way. They couldn’t.
How can you? Because you’ve deemed this opinion bad for society, sexist, racist. How could you possibly do that?
You can’t. So isn’t what they do now internally only a matter of time before they start doing it externally?