Are we closer to a world where questioning climate change is illegal?
A Canadian agency spent more than a year investigating three organizations accused of “denying mainstream climate science.” An environmental group had complained about Friends of Science, the International Climate Science Coalition, and the Heartland Institute. The organizations were accused of making “misleading” claims, including pointing to the sun as a huge factor in climate change and saying that carbon dioxide isn’t a pollutant.
While the government has stopped poking around for now, the investigation could start up again if more people bring forward information, AKA accuses the groups of being “climate deniers.”
Pat and Stu looked at the Orwellian story and then discussed some easily debunked points about global warming using some handy hurricane data from the past 50 years.
EDITOR'S NOTE: This article provided courtesy of TheBlaze.
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This is a rush transcript and may contain errors.
PAT: Do you know in Canada, they’re also investigating climate denial? People who deny climate change are going to be investigated now.
So there’s — there’s another thing that’s coming to fruition.
JEFFY: You’re darn right it is.
PAT: Is this politically correct viewpoint is now so entrenched, that if you don’t subscribe to it, you could be investigated by law enforcement and perhaps eventually arrested and charged with it. It’s just not that outrageous to think that could happen now.
JEFFY: It is not.
PAT: You better get on board with climate change, or we’re going to put you in jail.
JEFFY: You pooh-pooh the congressmen and the senators that are crazy, and they say that at town halls, and they say that these people — that it should happen. You say, eh, that will never happen. It’s coming. They’re going to try.
STU: Well, and here’s the thing: If you actually go by the definition of, let’s say Al Gore, you’re going to find not just evil conservatives like ourselves, but the overwhelming majority of the people in the United States of America.
STU: Because what you have to believe, if you are Al Gore is not only is climate change happening. You have to believe that it is almost entirely or entirely man made. You also have to believe that it is catastrophic. And you also must believe that the government must take massive action to control the energy supply here in the United States. Because even if you believe the first three and you get to that last one, you say, you know what, I just think maybe the free market would be best at this. Or, maybe we should just like look at some — you know, hopefully these companies can innovate. And we can create that.
PAT: Denier! Denier!
STU: You’re a denier, unless you say absolutely without question to all of those things. For example, you also have to say that hurricanes are becoming more frequent, even though the science itself says they’re becoming less frequent. Even though that’s going on. Even though the NOAA actually says — NOAA says that there is no indication in the last 120 years of any increase when it comes to hurricanes, at all, that is tied to man-made climate change, you still have to believe the opposite of those scientists.
PAT: Isn’t there something we can do about NOAA? Can we not shut down that organization?
JEFFY: Or start telling people the truth. Can we, I don’t know, bomb the organization?
STU: Is it Breitbart or is it NOAA? These bastards. It’s so incredible.
PAT: It is. Because you could be reasonable and say, “Sure. I agree it’s a little warmer than it was. But that’s happened a million times.” Well, that, you’re a denier. You could also say, I think it’s happened. And it’s our fault.
PAT: However, it’s a good thing because there’s going to be more food that grows because it’s a little bit warmer. And it’s not a problem. You’re still a denier. That’s not enough. You have to go with the catastrophic thing. And you also have to agree to —
STU: With the government action to solve the catastrophic thing. Because if you believe catastrophic consequences, but believe we should do something else about it, you’re also a denier.
And, again, when it comes to the hurricanes — because this is what happened. Stevie Wonder did this, right? Stevie Wonder was on stage at this hurricane benefit and tied hurricanes to man made global warming.
STU: We now have 50 years of global hurricane data. There is no trend in the frequency or number of storms that reach hurricane force. This is from the Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory at NOAA. Which I know you want to shut down NOAA. But listen to them for just a moment. Because I know everybody — I know when I see Pat, a lot of times, he’ll open his computer. I’ll be standing behind him, and his home page will open up. It’s almost always the Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory.
PAT: It’s my home page.
STU: It is your home page. You have — when you email Pat, you can email him at Pat@GeophysicalFluidDynamicsLaboratory.net.
PAT: There’s an ampersand in there. I don’t know why. I don’t know why.
STU: But it says — this is a report they released — not in 1912. Not 15 years ago. Not ten years ago, but August 31st of this year, as we led up to Hurricane Harvey and Irma —
PAT: Oh, my gosh, Stu, that’s pathetic. How old were you August 31st of this year? Come on now.
STU: The same age I am currently. That’s how old. Because it was just a few days ago. Okay?
JEFFY: Are you trying to make the case that Stevie Wonder saw this?
PAT: He did not see it.
STU: I don’t think he did see it. He didn’t see it. You know why? Because he doesn’t choose to read the Geophysical Fluid Laboratory — the Dynamics Laboratory material. It’s not one of his main sources. That’s why he can’t see it. There may be another reason too. I don’t know.
PAT: He should have them as his home page, like I have.
STU: There you go.
This is what they wrote: In summary, neither our model projections for the 21st century, nor our analysis of trends in the Atlantic hurricane and tropical storm counts over the past 120 years support the notion that greenhouse gas-induced warming leads to large increases in either tropical storm or overall hurricane numbers in the Atlantic.
I don’t know how — they are saying not only does it not confirm it, it’s not consensus. They’re saying, it does not support the notion.
JEFFY: Period. Yeah.
PAT: And yet, we’re the freaks. We’re the haters. We’re the irresponsible people who deny science.
STU: Yeah. And what do you like that, when there’s an investigation going on? Because Al Gore tells you that you have to believe that there’s going to be more brutal storms. And these people that keep coming out saying, “Oh, well, look, it’s obvious. Look at these hurricanes. You got both Irma and you got Harvey. It’s terrible. Of course you got to believe global warming.”
So we believe the last few weeks, but not the last 12 years? It’s insane. They will jump through any hoop to prove this right. And because they know if people believe it and people come along on this — and I think the younger generations show real signs that they do believe a lot of these things, and if they believe it, they will be able to control everything. They will be able to control every piece of the economic landscape in the United States of America. Because once you control power, you can do anything. If you can push around century like that, and you can justify any change in regulation based on the idea that global has to be solved and we’re the only ones that can solve it, man, that’s a lot of power.
It’s the same thing we’re seeing with this stuff with Title 9 at colleges with these rape accusations. And Betsy DeVos did a speech about this. And she made all these crazy claims about all these, you know — kids were going through this in college. And all these crazy rape accusations. Every one of them that she made happened. All the crazy stories she made happened. And it’s because we have accepted, generally speaking, as a society, this society that 90 percent of men that go to college are rapists. So because there’s a, quote, unquote, rape culture, you can justify any action. Of course, we all want to stop brutal rapes. Of course, we do. So you can justify any action. Any dismissal of First Amendment rights of do you process. Any of that can be dismissed. Because we have this much larger thing that we have to address. Which is our rape culture. Or global warming. Whatever it is. Once you get those things set in motion, you can do anything with them. And that is the plan of the left. I do think there are scientists who believe this could be bad. I do think there’s a lot of people who do think that it could be bad. I do think there’s some evidence that shows that we have warmed.
PAT: It’s not 97 percent, though, I’ll tell you that.
STU: It’s certainly not 97 percent. Also, Al Gore does not care if that’s true. He does not care if one scientist believes it’s accurate. He does this because he wants control and to personally enrich himself at this point. But, yes, he probably does believe it. But it’s immaterial to what he’s doing. He just wants to be able to control large swaths of the United States economy. And not him personally. But his movement.
PAT: You know what I think this diatribe of yours is all about?
PAT: Jealousy. I think you’re jealous that is talented enough to write something as beautiful as this.
VOICE: One thin September soon, a floating continent disappears in the midnight sun. Vapors rise, as fever settles on an acid sea. Neptune’s bones dissolve. Snow glides from the mountain. Ice fathers floods for a season. Hard rain comes quickly. Then dirt is parched. Kindling is placed in the forest for the lightning celebration. Unknown creatures take their leave unmourned. Horses ready their stirrups. Passion seeks heroes and friends. The bell on the city on the hill is rung. The shepherd cries, the hour of choosing has arrived. Here are your tools.
PAT: Here are your tools.
STU: That is one of the worst things I’ve ever heard in my entire life.
I cannot believe a person would go on television and say those words in that order that way.
JEFFY: And got praised for it, by the way.
PAT: Oh, listen to this.
VOICE: I’m so glad you read that. That was really —
VOICE: Thanks for asking me.
VOICE: I’m happy to hear —
JEFFY: Thank you for asking me.
PAT: And he went home and he wept.
JEFFY: No one ever asked me to say these words in public before. Thank you.