PragerU, a website that promotes conservative ideals in pithy 5-minute video clips, is suing Google and YouTube for content policies that the company says are overly vague and used to censor “conservative political thought.”
Founder Dennis Prager joined Glenn today to talk about the lawsuit over YouTube’s restrictions on their videos. The lawsuit claims that PragerU videos have been arbitrarily marked “inappropriate” for younger views and demonetized, or cut off from generating ad money.
“I really did believe all my life that there was one thing that did unite Americans,” Prager said. “And that is … free speech. But I was wrong. The left in particular does not believe in free speech because it threatens their power.”
Get the full story with our explainer of the PragerU lawsuit.
EDITOR'S NOTE: This article provided courtesy of TheBlaze.
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This is a rush transcript and may contain errors.
GLENN: There is a chill wind blowing across the First Amendment. And it is happening from all sides. When we have conservatives talking about limiting free speech and free press, it’s disturbing.
But there’s something else that’s going on right now with the — with all of the big — I would call them, you know, railroad companies. They’re — the rail lines of communication, they’ve all been laid now. And so now, these rail companies of Google, Apple, YouTube, which is Google, Facebook. They’re going to start dictating exactly what’s heard and what’s not heard. And it’s — we’re entering a very dangerous phase.
I wanted to bring on Dennis Prager. Because Dennis and Prager University have just filed a lawsuit against Google and YouTube. And we have a story up on TheBlaze.com that lays this all out very clearly. And you need to pay attention to this, because we have information from the dark web, where Media Matters was — was hiding out their plan for the future, that shows what’s happening to Dennis Prager was planned and coordinated. And this is their MO moving forward, to silence any voice on YouTube or Google or Apple or Amazon, that disagrees with Media Matters.
Welcome to the program, Dennis Prager.
DENNIS: What a joy to be with you. I’m in Israel. And wherever I am, it’s good to talk to you.
GLENN: Thank you, sir. Dennis, I have tremendous respect for you and what you guys are doing. You are making these five-minute videos. And it’s educating a lot of people in a very entertaining way. You are approaching your billionth view, if I’m not mistaken.
But YouTube has now removed or demonetized several of your videos and have blocked them because they say that it violates some sort of standard that you can’t figure out.
DENNIS: Right. They’re inappropriate. I think that’s the term. And it’s — we are putting up the lawsuit actually on our website, so that anybody can read it. It’s so devastating that it portrays an America that you and I never really thought would — would take place. If there was one thing, I guess I was naive.
I really did believe all of my life that there’s one thing that did unite Americans. Because I don’t — I never buy the unity issue, as you probably know.
I think there’s too big a division in the country. But I did believe there was one, a common belief. And that is in free speech. But I was wrong.
The — the left in particular does not believe in free speech because it threatens their power.
The more people know, the less left they will be. I would — I bank my life on that belief. I devote my life to that belief. Prager University is devoted to it, my radio show, et cetera. And that’s why they’re very afraid of us. They have every reason to be afraid of us. We have 500 million views this year. And we change a lot of minds, in a very sophisticated manner. Just for your audience’s knowledge, I think it’s important that they understand these are five-minute videos on every subject outside of the natural sciences. We’re not going to teach botany in five minutes. We understand that. Or mathematics or something like that.
And four of our presenters are Pulitzer prize winners. We have professors from Stanford, Yale, Harvard, UCLA, et cetera, et cetera.
We have liberals like Alan Dershowitz. It is — it’s an extremely sophisticated teaching operation. There is no yelling. There is no slamming. There is no anger. There are five had an minute intellectual presentations. And that’s why they change minds. Because they’re geared to the mind and not to the emotion. Yeah, go ahead.
GLENN: Is Alan Dershowitz’s video on Israel, is that one of them that has been banned?
DENNIS: That’s correct. That is correct. It was. They have been recently — yeah, it was.
GLENN: Alan Dershowitz, in TheBlaze story was asked about it, and he said This is one of the most disturbing things that has happened to him.
GLENN: I mean, here’s a guy — here’s a guy on the left whose voice is being silenced by YouTube.
DENNIS: Right. Right. Well, let me then venture forth a very important point that I make I think almost daily.
There is nothing in common between leftism and liberalism. They have nothing in common.
DENNIS: And liberals used to understand this. They no longer do. And so many side with the left, even though it violates everything they stand for. For example, liberalism begins in integration, the melting pot, and that race means nothing. The left believes that race is important, the first ideology since the Nazis to believe that. They have separate graduation exercises at Harvard for black graduate students. They have dorms for black students all over the country at universities. That was called segregation when I grew up. Liberals would have found that to be the antithesis to everything that a liberal stands for. And I’m trying to show — so I’m trying to show people like Dershowitz are liberals, not leftists. And I think he would even agree to that. Because he spends more of his time now, to his great credit, attacking the left than attacking the right. This is a Hillary Clinton voter.
GLENN: Yeah. I know several people who would have voted for Hillary Clinton in days gone by, who now say that their own party has gone so far off the rails, they’re more afraid of their side, the leftists, than they are of the Republicans and the people on the right.
DENNIS: Well, there’s nothing to fear from us. We don’t want power. I always make this point.
Conservatives, basically run on the doctrine, vote for me. I want less of your money. And I want less power over you.
GLENN: Well, I think that’s — I think that’s —
DENNIS: We’re only in danger to the left.
GLENN: I think that’s generally true. Not as true as I thought it was. You know, we are seeing people talk about, you know, how the government should regulate the free press. I don’t want the government involved in the press at all. Period.
DENNIS: I agree with you. But who said that?
GLENN: The president has talked about, maybe it’s time to regulate NBC.
DENNIS: Oh, really? I don’t really him saying that.
GLENN: Yeah, yeah.
DENNIS: I believe you. Because you’re an honorable man. It’s hard for me to believe even he believes in that. But, anyway, obviously none of us believe it. So it doesn’t matter.
GLENN: Yeah. So, Dennis, tell me some of the — tell me which videos are being taken down. See if there’s a pattern.
DENNIS: Well, the list is on — I believe the list is in the indictment. I should have it in front of me. But off the top of my head, I’ll give you a few examples.
DENNIS: This is my favorite, okay? I think there are about 40 out of 250. But I’ll give you — this is my — I’m laughing because it’s actually hilarious.
I did — I personally — I only do 15 percent of the videos. About 85 percent of them are by other people. But I did the videos because we do a fair number. You know, about 10 percent of our videos are on religion. Because we think a godless United States is not what the Founders wanted. In any event, so I did 11 videos on the Ten Commandments, one on each of the Ten Commandments and one introduction.
Believe it or not, they actually took down my video much thou shalt not murder.
GLENN: Why? Why do you think —
DENNIS: I don’t know. I don’t know. To be honest, to this day, I don’t know. That’s how absurd — we’re talking about the realm of the absurd.
GLENN: So the videos that TheBlaze is talking about, there are 40 that have been restricted. Many of them have also been demonetized, which means you can’t make any money on them. Among the restricted videos, why America must leave. Ten Commandments, do not murder. Why did America fight the Korean War, which is unbelievable. Everyone should see that one. The world’s most persecuted minority, Christians. Another unbelievable video. And — and there’s no answer.
DENNIS: By the way, that’s really — that tells you something about the — Google’s morality. That the persecution of Christians in the Middle East would be taken down, would be restricted. It shows you, they’re not — they’re not merely totalitarian. They’re bad.
I mean, only a bad person would find it objectionable — and I’m a Jew saying this. Calling — calling the world’s attention to the removal of Christian communities in Middle Eastern countries.
GLENN: Genocide, yeah.
So you are suing them. There’s no damages so far that you’re going for. What is your — what’s your plan for?
DENNIS: The plan is to win. And thereby bring down the greatest threat to free speech perhaps in world history, or in the history of the existence of freedom of speech. Because they control — they are the conduit to free speech on earth. You can’t — there’s no alternative.
GLENN: So, Dennis, doesn’t that make them a utility? Aren’t they a private —
DENNIS: That’s correct. That’s right. It does make them a utility. And the entitlement makes it clear that — I will use these words. It’s not in the indictment. They are a fraud because they — utterly misrepresent themselves. They say they are a completely open forum. That is as pure a lie as exists. And Prager University is the living proof of the lie that it is. They are not an open forum. And if we don’t prevail, it’s over for free speech, until there will be an actually open Google. And I don’t know how you rival Google at this time.
One day, it may happen. But in the meantime, it’s critical to understand —
GLENN: I don’t think so.
DENNIS: That this is what is happening.
STU: Dennis, isn’t it consistent though with conservative principles that it’s their website and they get to do what they want with it?
DENNIS: No. That’s very important.
I have actually asked that. The indictment shows law after law after law in California. And it’s not an indictment, by the way. That’s a technical term. It’s a complaint. So just for the record. But, in any event, the — the — we show law — the lawyers — by the way, that’s important that you know who they are. It was actually the suggestion of former California governor Pete Wilson, who was — I’m greatly honored to know, is a great fan of Prager University. And he is the one who has one of the most prestigious law firms in the country. He is leading this. And it was his idea actually. And they are — they are truly helping out. I mean, it’s very expensive to have lawyers, as you well know, as everybody knows in America.
GLENN: Especially against Google —
DENNIS: Yes, exactly. Unlimited funds, like the government.
But, anyway, they list law after law. This is not a — this is not a new idea. This predates Google. It predates us. It predates my existence on earth, where the Supreme Court has established that there has to be free speech, where there are claims to be free speech in the private sphere. So it’s not merely government cannot — cannot suppress speech. Now, obviously in the case, let’s say of religion. If you have a Christian school and it teaches that — you know, that — you know, that a Catholic school teaches that abortion is immortal sin. A teacher says, no, you know, I think that Catholicism welcomes abortion. Obviously, a religion can teach a certain thing. By the way, in that regard, it would be very interesting. I wonder, I don’t have the answer to this myself. I’m posing a question to me.
What if Google did announce, you know what, we are a left-wing organization. And we can’t stand any left-wing idea that has any traction. And therefore we will shut it down. I wonder then —
GLENN: If they could get away with it.
DENNIS: Yeah. That would be interesting. Because that’s what they are.
GLENN: Okay. Dennis, we’ll have more on this tonight. Hope to have more on this tomorrow. We are big supporters. Thank you for everything that you’re doing. And we will continue to help you get the word out on this. Anything that we can do, you know, that the audience can do?
DENNIS: Right. Well, yes, of course. First of all, they — for no money whatsoever, they need to watch our videos. Because they are life-changing. They’re meant to be. If their kid is in college, their kid is being indoctrinated.
DENNIS: And we are an antidote to that indoctrination. If they have to pay their kids in high school or college to watch it, or whatever, they should. And, obviously, if they want to help us in any other way, that’s great.
GLENN: Okay. Dennis Prager, thank you very much from Prager University. This is worth your money and your time to help them out. Prager University.