Former Rep. Eric Massa resigned in 2010 while facing an investigation into allegations that he groped and sexually harassed multiple people on his staff. Now, the former Democratic congressman is in the headlines again thanks to a report that $100,000 was secretly paid out to settle claims brought by two young male staffers.
Congress has been under fire after allegations of sexual misconduct against Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.) and the revelation that the Congressional Office of Compliance pays to settle sexual harassment claims and other lawsuits against lawmakers without being transparent with taxpayers.
On today’s show, Glenn and Stu revisited an interview that Glenn did with Massa back in 2010. The former congressman had some odd things to say about “tickle fights.”
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This is a rush transcript and may contain errors.
GLENN: So I don’t know if you remember — do you remember Congressman Massie?
STU: Not Massie. Massa? Eric Massa.
GLENN: Eric Massa. That was his name.
STU: Because Congressman Massie is a good congressman.
GLENN: Good guy. You’re right. You’re right. This is Eric Massa. So Eric Massa was a guy — this is for if you’re a long-time listener or viewer of the show.
I was on Fox. The guy called in. He was a Democrat. And he said, I’ve got some dirt on the Democrats. I’m going to expose it all. And I want to talk to you.
Okay. He called in during the show. Do you remember? And he said he had all kinds of information that was going to expose. Well, give me some. Not until I’m on the show.
Well, we knew that there was some scandal going on. We didn’t know exactly what. We found out that it was all revolving around tickle fights. Do you remember the tickle fight guy?
GLENN: Play a — play a cut one, please.
VOICE: Somebody says I groped male staffers. Female staffers. You know, I was fondling a cat. Whatever it is. I stand up and I say —
VOICE: Yes, you do.
GLENN: No, I don’t.
VOICE: Well, I do. And here’s why: Because it doesn’t make any difference what my intentions were, it’s how it’s perceived by the individual who receives that action.
STU: That’s the Franken line.
VOICE: And we set it up —
GLENN: But your name is at stake here. No, not just your name.
VOICE: Everybody’s name.
GLENN: Your children’s name.
VOICE: That’s right.
GLENN: Okay. So there’s something called honor. You are a Navy guy. Honor.
VOICE: Glenn, the only thing I can do is slit my wrist and bleed out on the — I’m telling you. I was wrong. I was wrong.
GLENN: Wait. Wait. No. What you’re saying to me is they took it wrong.
VOICE: No, I’m saying my behavior was wrong. My behavior was wrong.
GLENN: What was wrong about it?
VOICE: I should have never allowed myself to be as familiar with my staff as I was. I never translated from my days in the Navy to being a congressman.
GLENN: All right.
VOICE: But I did not —
GLENN: There’s no tickle fights in the Navy. I’ve never been in the Navy. I don’t know if there’s tickle fights in the Navy.
VOICE: Let me show you something.
GLENN: You’re going to show me tickle fights?
VOICE: I’m going to show you a lot more than tickle fights. Okay?
GLENN: So he just went on — this tickle fight was normal. I finally had enough. Cut two, please.
I cannot put together in my head. You believe these things. You’re trying to convince me, you believe these things.
VOICE: Yep. And I can’t change —
GLENN: Do you realize — bullcrap. Bullcrap, sir. Listen to me —
VOICE: No. Here’s why —
GLENN: Do you realize what some of us are doing? We’re not an elected office. Do you realize my family is at stake?
Do you realize — excuse me, sir.
VOICE: So is mine.
GLENN: Will you excuse me for a second, sir. in college. I’ve got one for all time now. Because I’m not going to resign. I’m not going to back down.
I have come to a place to where, I believe at some point, the system will destroy me. That’s okay. Because I’m going to do what I can to pass on a better America for tomorrow. So I don’t understand the white flag. It doesn’t make sense to me.
VOICE: For 30 years, I’ve been doing this. I can’t fight this. I can’t fight Casper. I can’t fight the White House. I can’t fight the Republicans. I can’t fight anymore.
GLENN: Okay. So he was trying to make himself look like a hero. But here’s what happened. This came out now on Friday. Here’s the real story. So Massie.
GLENN: Massa. Sorry. My apologies to Massie. Massa, he calls us and says, I’m going to expose Harry Reid. I’m going to expose the party. And we know he is in trouble for tickle fights.
So we say, what do you have? But I’m going to expose it. Then we know that at about 4 o’clock, about an hour before the show on Fox, the — the — the social media changes, and all of a sudden, people in the Democratic Party are starting to rally around him. He comes on the show, and he says, okay. So I’m not going to tell you what I told you. I’m — this is what I really want to say, I was wrong.
Didn’t make any sense. Did you make a deal with Harry Reid? Did you make a deal of some sort? No, no, no, no. What came out Friday was, when they’re looking through the records on who paid out, did the parties pay for any sexual harassment lawsuits?
Yeah. On that day, the day of the broadcast, it looks like the Democrats decided to pay to cover his butt.
So my guess is, the deal came down. He used me as a wedge to get a deal. Which is what we suspected. But now we know a deal was made. And people who were crying sexual harassment about him, were paid off by the Democratic Party.
That is what happened.