Russian troops died last week during an attack on a U.S. base in Syria’s Deir Ezzor region. At least four Russian nationals were killed in the skirmish, although the real number may be dozens more. A Syrian military officer put the death total at 100 Russian soldiers, but it’s hard to know for sure.
How much do we know so far?
Conflicting reports about the failed attack on Feb. 7 and 8 on a base held by U.S. and Kurdish forces have been slowly trickling in. Two Russians told Bloomberg that 200 Russian contract soldiers were killed, while a U.S. official said 100.
Col. Ryan S. Dillon, a spokesman for the American military, told the New York Times that the attack on the U.S. base and U.S.-backed forces was “unprovoked.”
“Coalition officials were in regular communication with Russian counterparts before, during and after the thwarted, unprovoked attack,” he said.
This isn’t a story we should ignore. Conflict with Russia isn’t new, but the report that around 100 Russian soldiers were killed by U.S. forces is unprecedented.
“The last time we killed a bunch of Russians was … never,” Glenn pointed out.
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This is a rush transcript and may contain errors.
GLENN: The Intel chiefs are testifying about national security threats to our country. And they are spending a lot of time today talking about Russia and what’s happening with the election. One of our security chiefs said earlier, they’re going to do what they did last time and worse. We’re not making any progress on this. We’re not doing anything about this.
That seems to be a problem, especially since war seems to be heating up a little bit with Russia in a story that no one is paying attention to.
PAT: Are you saying that just because we just killed over 100 Russian troops?
GLENN: I heard as many —
PAT: And wounded as many as 300.
GLENN: I heard as many as 600. Is that confirmed?
PAT: It’s not confirmed, I don’t think. But it was major. They attacked a US Kurdish base. And we wiped them out with tetraand jet fighters. Russian troops, I mean, that’s — now, Russia claims that that was some rogue unit and that they didn’t order the attack on the US base. And we’re accepting that.
STU: And according to reports, we’re accepting that as actually true.
PAT: I don’t know that it is.
STU: We don’t want to (?) we may just be ignoring what we actually believe.
PAT: Right. It’s a little unnerving to think that US and Russian forces are actually engaging one another interacting like that.
GLENN: Crossing swords.
MATT: And that we killed so many Russians. That’s usually not a good (?)
PAT: You know, usually.
GLENN: The last time we killed a bunch of Russians was never.
PAT: Yeah, never. Never.
STU: You try not to. (?) it’s not a fun — not a fun thing. The biggest issue is what this could escalate into, if something goes awry.
PAT: That’s the thing. That’s the thing.
GLENN: We need to do some homework. We need to do it (?) on how the Russian media back home is portraying this. And if they’re not portraying it, why? Why are they not reporting on it? If they are, how are they spinning it? Because Putin has spent a lot of time recently trying for Mike the United States into the (?) big, bad wolf. And if we just killed 100 of their soldiers, I can’t imagine — can you imagine if Russians killed 100 of our soldiers? What we would be saying?
PAT: There would be an incredible outcry. Incredible.
GLENN: Oh, my gosh.
STU: Although, I will say, if the reason they got killed was a bunch of rogue troops attacked a bunch of people in their base, I think — if we knew that was true, I would feel a lot less sympathetic to our side.
GLENN: Yeah. If we believed that they were rogue troops. What would it take for us for believe that those were rogue troops?
STU: A lot.
PAT: I’m not sure I would believe it. I’m not sure I would believe that these Russians are rogue troops. It doesn’t seem reasonable dare.
STU: It does seem that (?) Americans were just hanging out. They came and started attacking. So they were not the aggressors.
GLENN: So I do like the point that we kick their ass.
PAT: I do like that. Yes. Yeah, that makes you feel good that we can still do that. That we’re willing to do that. Because it seems like under the Obama administration —
GLENN: What did they say —
PAT: We would have said, well, maybe you can have half the garrison, and we’ll keep the other half. Maybe you take two-thirds and you —
GLENN: Here’s Montana.
STU: Why don’t we get out of your way?
PAT: Montana. Yeah. That’s generous.
GLENN: Yeah. So what is — what was the rogue troops’ excuse?
PAT: I haven’t seen an excuse.
GLENN: Because I haven’t seen —
PAT: It was called unprovoked. So they seemingly didn’t have an excuse. Have you seen them say any reason for why they attacked the US base? I haven’t seen one.
STU: No. Just —
GLENN: It would be interesting to see, again, in their media. Because if we had rogue troops attack Russia, we would immediately disavow them. And we would find out what — what were they thinking? And we would be all over that. If they’re not saying that these are rogue troops, if they’re not saying that America killed a whole bunch, and if they’re not saying — if they’re reporting this story and they’re not saying, well, we talked to them and be this was their reasoning, I think that’s trouble. Putin saves this kind of stuff.
You know, he pulls this kind of stuff out and makes it an issue when it is his time.
STU: You have this coming up (?) talking a little bit more about Aleksandr Dugin, a guy from Russia, really influential guy, a guy who has collected many groups from around the world to try to change the way that politics and ideology kind of works in the world. He has a whole book about it and everything. But what is he doing with this information?
Because certainly, I can’t imagine those types of groups in Russia are presenting it that way. And if you look — if you look certainly on social media, you’ll see people aligned with those groups are coming up with conspiracy theories as to why this happened. That it wasn’t — it’s not the way they’re telling us. That —
PAT: It’s a false flag.
STU: That Americans are the bad guys.
PAT: It was a false flag.
STU: Basically, yeah.
GLENN: So, you know, what’s really interesting to me is if you read the fourth political theory by Dugin, he’s a terrifying guy. And he says that Hitler didn’t go far enough. And it’s his philosophy that is so frightening. He talks about these people of the sea and the people of the land. And the people of the sea are the north Atlantic sea treaty. And the people of the land are — are Russia and the — the original Mort land.
I’ve been reading a book (?) called Hitler’s Monsters. And another one at the same time called Order Men.
PAT: Wait. You’re reading a Nazi book of some kind.
GLENN: I am.
PAT: When was that —
STU: Stunning development.
GLENN: I will tell you, Hitler’s Monsters (?) it’s a little dry. But it is about how this — the seeds were planted for the dark arts and for, you know — what does he call it? Louis fair inism, long before Hitler came into power.
And it talks about all of the things. It starts with, Indiana Jones is not real. However, there is a real guy that that’s based on.
Now, let’s get away from the cartoons. And let’s look at what they were really trying to do. Anyway, there’s this thing called the actually society that started in the teens and early 20s.
Hitler was a big — (?), you know, his countless were big scholars in this actually society. That is Atlantaians, they believe that the people that were Germans and tharian race, they were Atlantaians. They survived.
And they were this master race.
PAT: From Atlantis?
GLENN: Yeah. And that’s pretty much what, you know, the people of the sea, the people of the land, pretty much what do you go sin saying. He’s using all of these old pagan, crazy kind of myths and knitting them all together. And people will buy them, when they’re hungry or what when they’re afraid.
PAT: Mixed with some apocalyptic biblical things too like —
GLENN: Yes, except in this book —
PAT: Like the ant eye Christ coming from the sea.
GLENN: That’s Dugin, right? (?)
PAT: Yeah. You know —
GLENN: Dugin —
PAT: And blaming NATO. That’s becoming more and more popular.
GLENN: Yes. Yes. And what’s frightening is if you look at what happened with Hitler — and in this book, Hitler’s Beasts, it is — it’s — it was written by a guy from Cambridge. And, I mean, it’s very scholarly. And so it’s not — it’s — it’s not hyperbole at all. In fact, much of it is very dry. But if you look at it, he’s making the case, don’t listen ever to anyone who says this was Christian. This is not a Christian movement. It is the exact opposite.
Yeah. And he has (?) documented, in Hitler’s own writing, in books, all these books called like the Magician and stuff. Dark Arts. Hitler underlined some things and wrote in the margins things like the real leader cannot truly be successful without demonic seeds inside of him.
I mean, they really were going for evil stuff. And it’s happening again!
PAT: It’s pretty spooky.
GLENN: It’s happening again.
PAT: And they actually believed that they were the people of Atlantis?
GLENN: They believed it. They believed in Thor.
GLENN: They believed this — they took all of these pieces and (?) rolled it into one demonic blanket. It’s fascinating.
STU: We have the author of Hitler’s Monsters coming on.
GLENN: Next week (?)
PAT: That should be fascinating.
STU: Yeah. You could build an entire series out of this book, it seems. Easily.
GLENN: Oh, this book, it’s a little difficult to read. Because he uses — there’s so much language in there that you just — you don’t know. You have to keep —
STU: Two and three syllable words are in there.
GLENN: Right. Exactly.
STU: There’s only a few two syllable. Mostly (?)
PAT: Where have you heard that theory before? I’ve never heard that.
GLENN: He said, look, that’s just one — that’s just one part. Okay? That’s not the overarching part. That’s just one part. But he said at the very beginning, all of this stuff, with the marvel comics, with the red mask of death. That (?) all of this stuff is in our popular culture. But that’s all — that’s all lies built on a true — truly frightening platform that really happened.
And we have to understand that. And as I’m reading it, I’m telling you, well, what was the group that we — we looked at last week, Stu, on the Russian?
GLENN: Yeah. We’re looking at this world national conservative meeting or whatever it is, done by Dugin. You look at what they believe. And you read that book and you’re like, oh, my gosh, it’s coming back.
PAT: Is he still a big Trump supporter?
GLENN: Dugin? I don’t know. Yeah, I’m not sure.
STU: (?) he might.
PAT: He was all about Donald Trump. I wonder if that’s changed now.
GLENN: But if you look at this world national conservative movement, which is basically a global national Socialist Party. It’s the Nazis all over again. It’s in 66 — there’s 66 groups. And it’s in over 22 countries now. It’s all financed, including America. And it’s all financed by Russia and Aleksandr Dugin. And if you — if you look at it, it’s all the same philosophies. It’s Dugin and Hitler combined. And then on top of it, when you — when you go and look at what they’re saying — shoot. What did you just say? I was just trying to make a point, based on what you just asked, Stu.
Don’t remember. Do you remember?
STU: The Trump part of —
GLENN: Oh, yeah.
PAT: If he’s still a supporter.
GLENN: If you go into those groups (?) on their own websites, Breitbart is everywhere.
GLENN: It is everywhere. In every country, every Nazi front group, it’s everywhere. It’s amazing.
PAT: And chilling.
GLENN: Totally chilling.
GLENN: Because it’s going in two directions.