A Texas middle school is apologizing after sixth-grade students were sent home with a questionnaire assignment asking them to rank how comfortable they are with going to a gay bar or meeting a “female-to-male transsexual.”
The teacher who gave out the “inappropriate” 41-question assignment has been disciplined, according to the Birdville Independent School District.
“I wasn’t ready for my son to be exposed to these type of things,” said Ashley Brent, mom to a 12-year-old boy who brought home the assignment.
What were some of the questions?
Students were asked to rank how comfortable they were on a scale of 1 to 4 in these types of scenarios:
- “Your dentist is HIV positive.”
- “A friend invites you to a gay bar.”
- “Your sister invites her new boyfriend home to dinner. He is a female-to-male transsexual.”
On today’s show, Pat and Stu talked about this story and other similar examples of teachers springing bizarre assignments on kids without warning their parents. All in the name of political correctness, of course.
EDITOR'S NOTE: This article provided courtesy of TheBlaze.
PAT: Got some interesting school issues that have arisen again. One is in the Dallas/Fort Worth metroplex in a — in an ISD, an independent school district called Birdville. They have disciplined a teacher for handing out a questionnaire to sixth grade students. So these kids are 12 years old. Eleven and 12.
Asked them to rank their level of comfort with people of different races, ethnicities and sexual orientation. The how comfortable am I questionnaire was distributed to one class at North Richmond Middle School on February 7th. And one of the parents said she was shocked when her 12-year-old son came home and showed her the questionnaire.
I wasn’t quite ready for my son to be exposed to these types of things.
It’s things like statements. How do you feel? And rank them on a range of one to four. One being I’m not comfortable at all. Four being I’m completely comfortable with this.
A friend invites you to a gay bar. At 12 years old, how comfortable are you with that?
STU: Well, first of all, I would be breaking the law by entering a bar under the age of drinking. But I would be incredibly comfortable.
PAT: Incredibly comfortable. Because what’s wrong with that. Nothing?
PAT: Other than he’s underage.
STU: It’s interesting, because a lot of gay people go to — there’s no such thing as a straight bar. But a bar that is not a gay bar.
But I wouldn’t say it’s overwhelmingly common for a straight person to attend a gay bar. It does seem like when you put the sexual orientation of the people you’re choosing to enter in kind of the title of the bar, maybe the people who don’t have that sexual orientation might not want to go it — might not be their first choice.
PAT: And yet, you’re still supposed to be comfortable of it, I guess. Isn’t that the point of a questionnaire like this, you should still be comfortable with it. Well, I’m not gay. And not that I — let them do what they want. I just want to go there. Because it’s not my sexual orientation. So I would more likely go to a non-gay bar.
STU: I would think. And I’m speculating a tad here, but if maybe one of our gay listeners could call in on this topic.
STU: I would be interested to know as a gay man, a gay man, gay journalist, if you’re a gay man and you go to a gay member, are you happy if a straight man is there?
Because to me, I would think — if I’m going to a gay bar —
PAT: It limits your opportunity.
STU: And also, like, might mislead you. Right? You might be thinking, oh, I assume, I walked into a gay bar. I assume, what? Ninety percent of the people here are also gay. It’s a gay bar. Maybe more. Maybe 100 percent is what you’re hoping for.
STU: And if you’re a straight gay who is there because he’s trying to show how tolerant and woke he is, I think that would be kind of annoying as a gay guy.
PAT: I think so too. I think so too.
STU: I’d rather know that I don’t have to figure out whether this person is straight or gay, and maybe in another bar.
PAT: Let’s be honest, you go to a bar normally to meet somebody to start a relationship with.
STU: That’s at least part of the reason.
PAT: You can drink at home. So you’re at the bar to meet somebody.
STU: Again, it is legal. Not all — I’ve gone to bars without wanting to meet people. You know, it’s a fun environment. You’re watching — you know, you’re hanging out.
PAT: Well, yeah, you could be watching a football game.
STU: Yeah, exactly. But, yes, if you’re going —
PAT: Figure skating.
STU: You think if you’re going to a gay bar —
PAT: You’re looking for gay people to hang out with.
STU: Right. Gay people to hang out with. Not necessarily you’re taking a look start a relationship. But that’s certainly implied. It would be a high percentage play, I’d say.
PAT: So to a 12-year-old person in elementary school, strange, strange question.
STU: Right. Because, again, it would be illegal for them to enter the building. So they should feel completely uncomfortable with it.
PAT: Uncomfortable with it.
Here’s the next question: Your sister invites her new boyfriend to dinner, but he is a female-to-male transsexual. How comfortable are you with that?
STU: First of all, is transsexual okay? Is that even the term? I would say transgendered.
PAT: Transgender, right. Well, you’re transsexual if you’ve actually had — is this right? That you’ve actually had the surgery.
STU: I don’t know what you’re about to say. But whatever you’re about to say is definitely not right. It can’t be right because it’s coming out of your mouth.
PAT: Yeah. Right.
STU: Is this okay? It’s never okay after you say, is this okay? That’s a rule.
PAT: Okay. All right. So those are the types of questions, would you have a problem with that, with your kids being asked?
STU: So if your sister brings over a male to female —
PAT: A female to male transsexual — yeah, so this is a person who used to be female. Now is apparently male. And — and they brought him to dinner.
STU: It’s an interesting question to ask a sixth grader.
PAT: Isn’t it? Any of these sexual orientation questions, with a sixth grader with a 12-year-old, to me, stop it. Don’t — first of all, what does the school have to do with any of this? Teach them reading, writing, and arithmetic. That’s what I want you to do. And I want you to leave the social justice nonsense to me. I’ll teach them that, if I deem it appropriate.
STU: You’ll teach them the social justice nonsense?
PAT: Yes. Yes. I’d be livid. Apparently, a lot of these parents were. Because it’s in Texas and people still get livid about their children being asked sexual questions like this. And actually, the teacher involved was — was disciplined. So it doesn’t necessarily spell out what the discipline was. But, yeah, they didn’t elaborate on it. But they do say that she was, in fact, disciplined. A middle school teacher in Florida got fired last year for doing the same questionnaire. So apparently this is making the rounds in schools across America.
STU: Yeah. And probably not a good idea. Particularly at that level. I mean, I don’t know that I want it at any level.
PAT: I don’t want it at school at all.
STU: Now, if you go to a very liberal college. Send your kids there. You know, you want to have them investigate their gender identity. That’s totally —
PAT: In their sociology class or whatever.
STU: It’s a choice. When you’re going to a public school — I mean, even if you went to a private — if you as a parent, Pat, chose to send your kid to a social justice private school, that would be something that would be expected there. When you’re talking about a public school, that you’re paying for with your tax dollars, that’s supposed to be teaching your kids the basics of learning, it’s obviously not appropriate. But this is just — like, schools in general are getting stranger and stranger. They’re not talking about banning the idea of having a best friend. So you — because if you have a best friend, that means you’re saying to others —
PAT: You’re not my best friend.
STU: They’re not my best friend.
PAT: That’s exclusive. It is not inclusive.
STU: That’s a big problem. This is up on TheBlaze.com right now. And apparently this is something they actually believe is an issue. Now, look, obviously, when you’re a kid, you’re very sensitive to who is your best friend. When you were a kid, did you have an internal list of who — I used to have my top three friends list in my head.
PAT: Oh, sure. Definitely.
STU: You kind of do that when you’re a kid. It’s sort of a natural thing. It’s not something necessarily I would want schools to encourage. I wouldn’t necessarily say, give me your list, your top three friends. I wouldn’t say that that would be appropriate either. But this is happening in America and Europe. It’s up on TheBlaze. They discourage students from having best friends. This is the school in New York City.
And they — are considering banning best friends with the enthusiastic support of education experts. This is why my kids go to private school, by the way. This is why you do it, right? Your kids were homeschooled for most of their lives.
STU: And you’re a big fan of homeschooling. And, you know, like, I just don’t want the experimentation on my kids.
You know, I feel like there’s this idea that, you know what, we try to — we think that this is an appropriate thing. Let’s try it on these things. I don’t want to be the parent that sends my kids into that environment. Where they’re the gerbil. Right? Like, I don’t want my kid that’s the poor field mouse that’s getting needles put into it, with whatever experiment the government thinks is a good idea this week.
I’d rather avoid that if it’s at all possible.
They — clinical psychologist Dr. Barbara Greenberg told WCBS that the idea is catching on in schools. According to Greenberg, there’s been a movement in some American schools and European schools to ban the phrase “best friend,” which is interesting because can a government institution ban words? I’m going to go with no.
STU: There’s not really a basis for that. But the idea of banning the phrase “best friends” is a very intriguing social experiment. They actually use the freaking word. Don’t experiment on my children, please.
Greenberg acknowledged that simply banning the phrase won’t stop children from having close relationships, but might encourage kids to be more inclusive in their friendships. I see kids come in all week, who are feeling dreadful because they are excluded and because there are nobody’s best friend. Or their best friend has moved on.
PAT: So if this doesn’t work, the next step is to ban best friends, right? And to force kids to hang out with other kids. Isn’t that the natural progression of this movement.
Okay. Not only can you not say that that’s your best friend. You can’t even hang out with your best friend now. Because we want you to be more inclusive. You have to hang out with this kid here.
I could see them experimenting with that too.
STU: Yeah. 100 percent. Because they — that is what this — apparently what education has become. One giant social experiment.
And it’s not what — you know, it’s not why I wanted to go to school. It’s not the reason I think that school exists.
Yeah, my kids to a learning level — gave them as smart as they can, to be able to figure out how to think, and then let them figure it out on their own, along with their parents. Their faith. Their friends. Their relatives. That is — I think what we’ve lost here is the idea — school as part of the process.
School is a chunk of what kids gain as they grow up. Instead, we say, that needs to be all. They need to do all of it.
Instead of saying like, okay. Let’s fill in, reading, writing, arithmetic. The basics. And then let their culture and their parents and their friends and their relatives.
PAT: Fill in the rest.
STU: Fill in the gaps. The belief system. Right?
PAT: Yeah. Teach them to read. Teach them to do math.
STU: Yeah. Get them the basics.
PAT: And teach them history.
STU: Because can parents teach kids to read? Absolutely. But it’s a time-consuming process. They have to work. There’s reason why we have schools. But the idea that we’re supposed to fill in everything from, you know, every sexual thought that they might have —
PAT: And whether or not they should be comfortable being invited to a gay bar at 12 years old. It doesn’t have any place at school.
STU: No. Zero. That is something — first of all, we’ve outlawed as a society — bars have a — I guess you could go to a bar at Chili’s at any age. But, I mean, a lot of states have — I used to work at a Chili’s back in the day. Where I worked, they — you couldn’t sit kids at the bar. Like, they could be at a table and their parents could order drinks. But they couldn’t sit at the bar and order food, even if they weren’t drinking because it was against the law. So the idea you could send a kid into a gay club at 12 years old, is I would say probably illegal in every single State of the Union.
PAT: I would guess. I would guess it is. Yeah.
STU: So, yes, you should feel uncomfortable with that.
PAT: I think so.
STU: Should you feel uncomfortable with speeding. Yes, it’s against the law. Now, whether you do or not is another question. But really, it’s not something we need to investigate at six years old.
PAT: And neither is forcing them to expand their horizons with friends. That, again, is not a function of the school system. At all.
PAT: It’s none of your business who they’re hanging out with, frankly.