GLENN: From Radio City in Midtown Manhattan, third most listened to show in all of America. Hello, you sick twisted freak. Let’s go to Ann Coulter who we’ve been e-mailing each other back and forth a little bit on how scary the times are that we live in. I mean, Ann, any doubt in your mind that the right to free speech is in real jeopardy and our Constitution hangs by a thread?

COULTER: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. No, this is — I mean, that’s what is so troubling about an Obama administration and that is that Democrats will put in place rules and regulations so that the pendulum can never swing back again because otherwise, you know, you’d look at this and say, okay, it’s going to be a really bad four years, there will be a massive recession, the stock market will go down. Hopefully you are not retiring this year or aren’t counting on your income from this year. But if they repeal the Fairness Doctrine, which Democrats have been chomping at the bit to do well, for basically since Reagan repealed it in ’87. And, you know, Reagan repealed it in ’87. Less than a year later the Rush Limbaugh show began. Apropos of its name, the Fairness Doctrine doesn’t apply to newspapers, magazines, television or Hollywood movies. It only applies to radio stations and that’s about as fair as it gets in my book.

GLENN: It’s really amazing, and I was just talking to Elizabeth Dole and I said in your lifetime have you ever seen a candidate come out, say more spooky things than this candidate has said, talk about, you know, that the Warren court, you know, wasn’t so radical; I mean they didn’t — you know, they didn’t get rid of some of the fundamentals of the Constitution put there by our founding fathers to stop the redistribution of wealth. I mean, you’ve got to be kidding me!

COULTER: I know.

GLENN: Somebody wrote to me today, Ann, and said, "Don’t worry about this election. It’s not going to be a big deal. Something’s going to happen that will wake people up." I’m like, besides exposing him as a lizard from space, there’s nothing else that this man could say that he hasn’t already said!

COULTER: I know. It’s true, although I must say that I am, I am impressed with the wisdom of the American people. We’re basically running Tallulah’s horse here, Glenn. And the economy is down and people are angry at Bush.

GLENN: It’s still within 2 points. That’s amazing.

COULTER: I’m amazed our guy isn’t 75 points behind.

GLENN: Yeah, yeah. It is really, truly amazing when you look at it, when you look at it that way. It really does go show the judgment of the American people. They know in their gut this isn’t right. It’s just, you know what it is? It’s 40% of the population that pays no income tax.

COULTER: Yes.

GLENN: And is living on the dole.

COULTER: Yes, yes. We start with an almost 40% for the Democrats unless you are including this, which I suppose is fair, the Dole category. Everyone who works for state, local and federal government. I mean, that right there is about 28%, right?

GLENN: Yeah. It’s really, it’s frightening. I want to play a clip from an Obama speech that he gave, it was this past July and I want you to listen to this and you tell me what this means. There’s two ways to read this. He’s talking about a new force of about 250,000 people and he’s talking about the job corps and, you know, the political people that go across the — I’m trying to remember what you call those.

COULTER: Oh, the ACORN people?

GLENN: No, no, the ambassador corps, you know, the people that go over as ambassadors. But then he also says something: We must no longer rely on just our military for our own national defense. I want you to listen to this. Tell me what you think he means by this.

OBAMA: We’re going to grow our foreign service, open consulates that have been shuttered and double the size of the peace corps by 2011 to renew our diplomacy. We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set.

GLENN: Listen to this.

OBAMA: We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.

GLENN: We need a civilian force. Is he just talking about, you know, the people that go overseas or is he talking about — what it sounds to me like he’s talking about a civilian corps here in America that is just as strong and as powerful, which goes right along with his green corps which is, put people in uniform, get them out there to make sure everything’s green. Is this brown shirt stuff or am I dreaming?

COULTER: If he considers WETA one of the great accomplishments of the Clinton administration.

GLENN: It’s amazing to me.

COULTER: I know, I know. I mean, Hillary — without Palin, Hillary would have been a logical choice, as I think I indicated many months ago, as opposed to McCain because McCain is liberal enough. If you’re a Democrat, you know, he’s right in there with you on all the policies. Republicans wouldn’t get blamed for it. We would have Republicans in congress fighting him. This guy is off the charts. No one paying attention can vote for him. I mean, as bad, as liberal as McCain is going to be — I mean unless we get in and impeach him so we get Palin.

GLENN: (Laughing).

COULTER: Shhh.

GLENN: You know, I have to tell you, have you talked to Joe the plumber?

COULTER: I can’t get through because every government agency in America is investigating him.

GLENN: That’s so great. That is so great. That’s unbelievable. I just spoke to him this morning. He is a fan of the show and he called in and I’m looking down at my phone screen and I’m like, Joe the plumber. He calls in. He’s a really nice guy, really articulate. Dan, can you see if we can play that interview back here in a few minutes. Really smart guy. He reminded me in many ways of Sarah Palin in just like, it’s not that hard.

COULTER: Yeah.

GLENN: I work with crap all the time. You flush it and you move on, you know? The American people have the answers.

COULTER: I know. Listening to him talk, I’ve seen him do some TV and he is magnificent. I listen to him talk and think, why can’t our candidates ever talk like this.

GLENN: Exactly right. Exactly right.

COULTER: That’s the beauty of Sarah.

GLENN: Yeah, yeah. I mean, and look what they’ve done to Sarah. I mean, they just —

COULTER: Oh, yeah. That’s how you know you’re getting their goat.

GLENN: Yeah, I know, it’s amazing. Ann, thank you very much. When’s your new book come out?

COULTER: December 30th. I just turned it in yesterday.

GLENN: December 30th, good. Then I won’t be competing — well, actually mine is a novel. So I won’t be competing against you.

COULTER: When does yours come out? Before Christmas is my guess. I didn’t get mine in in time.

GLENN: Yeah, yeah, I’m doing the Christmas Sweater. It’s a novel and it’s coming out November 11th, I think, but it’s competing against Stephen King who by the way called me Satan’s younger mentally challenged brother. And I can’t wait. I mean, I just hope I’m somewhere even within, you know, ten spaces of Stephen King because it will just drive him crazy.

COULTER: Well, so do I.

GLENN: All right. Well, thanks a lot, Ann. We’ll talk to you soon.

COULTER: Talk to you soon. Bye.