Glenn talks to Senator Lieberman

GLENN: That’s tonight we’re going to be covering that at 6:00 Eastern time. Stu, are you doing shots all night? Is that what you are doing every time something is called for a Democrat?

STU: No, not doing that for a Democrat. We may have a couple of participants from our staff who would volunteer doing that, which is such a shocker.

GLENN: Yeah, the alcoholics on the staff. I mean, the recovering alcoholic is not doing that. But all those that I have strangely hired and put around me going, "Glenn, it’s just one; it’s no big deal."

STU: Hugh Hefner, Hugh Hefner has just called. Let’s do another shot.

GLENN: Is he going to be watching all of the — he’s going to be specifically watching.

STU: MSNBC, just to see how much tingling goes on with the staff.

GLENN: Full-fledged —

STU: Tingle.

GLENN: I mean, 30 Rock is like, you know, orgasmatronic over there. That’s all that is. It’s just sitting there. It’s going to vibrate tonight.

STU: They are going to get like Dick Clark to host that thing on MSNBC. It’s going to be like a giant party countdown. It is going to be the greatest moment in Keith Olbermann’s life.

GLENN: It is.

STU: Congratulations.

GLENN: It is. That guy is so angry, just so angry.

STU: How great was the sketch on Saturday Night Live about that, with Ben Affleck. How fantastic is that.

GLENN: Who is that person here? Lynn who has been holding for a while. Hi, Lynn.

CALLER: Hi, Glenn.

GLENN: You were calling about the Olbermann thing, right?

CALLER: I was hoping to hear about it Monday and then talk about it today. I thought they did justice to his personality.

GLENN: Oh, you know what? A tingle went up to my leg to know that it was Ben Affleck that did it.

CALLER: I know.

GLENN: I mean, I couldn’t believe it. And did you notice? Maybe it was just me wanting to read more into it. It seemed to be done with glee.

CALLER: It was. I think he actually cracked up a couple of times when he was doing it.

GLENN: Yeah. And it’s not — I don’t think it was done in the done in the spirit of just good-natured ribbing. It seemed as though they really did not like him.

CALLER: Well, I know you’d think somebody — or someone reported that he showed up at the set and Affleck was not comfortable with that when he was there.

GLENN: Well, what was it, Stu? Were you the one who told me what Olbermann said? "You know, I just wanted to see exactly what was going on so we could all laugh together." And you know that he wasn’t laughing. He is not the kind of guy that is going to take —

STU: He will certainly say that he is, you know. "Oh, it was all in good fun and everything else." But you look at it and I think there is an element that has been brewing for — I think really when it was highlighted by the, "Shut your damn mouth, George Bush" and also when he was hammering Hillary Clinton in that one about how she should drop out of the race and everything. And I think it’s come to the point now where liberals are embarrassed by Keith Olbermann. Like they are getting to that point where they are like, "All right, we don’t want people to think we’re like this guy." And there’s a lot of people. I mean, you know, like there’s a lot of people who are I don’t think right but sensible and calm and not idiotic like Olbermann that believe liberal things. And you get to that point where you actually get embarrassed now.

GLENN: I’ve never watched Rachel Maddow’s show but I’ve tuned in across and seen a little bit. I don’t know. She’s very, very liberal, everything that I believe. But I believe that she’s the kind of person that you could have dinner with and have a reasonable conversation. She’s not trying to kill you and drag your body through the streets.

STU: It definitely seems. And I have not watched the show at all but I’ve heard from people who are conservatives who say she at least seems likeable.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: Which is a huge, a massive difference than Keith Olbermann who couldn’t possibly be less like.

GLENN: That’s the kind of atmosphere that we need to get to, you know, to where we can sit down. I mean, I worked at CNN. I can work with uber liberals and like each other, and really like and respect each other. Just disagree on those things. But you don’t have to be nasty about it. And that’s where we have to get away, you know. We just had Orrin Hatch on and now we have Joe Lieberman on. Here’s an example of two people who are not nasty. They know what they believe, they stand up, and if you disagree with them, that’s okay but they don’t have to be nasty about it. And that’s the direction we need to go in.

Joe Lieberman, welcome to the program, Senator. How are you, sir?

US Senator Joe Lieberman

SENATOR LIEBERMAN: Hey, Glenn, great to talk to you. I’m good and I’m honored to be on after my dear friend Orrin Hatch. We worked a lot together. We disagree but, you know, this is a friend and a most civil person. So thank you.

GLENN: I will tell you, Senator, I will tell you that I am — you know, I just talked to Senator Hatch about this. I fear our Constitution is hanging by a thread. I fear our Constitution, we are in real, real jeopardy here because we haven’t faced this perfect storm before that we have. I mean, everybody right now is just talking about the economy, but let’s talk about what the heck happens with Israel and Iran and even Iraq at this point.

SENATOR LIEBERMAN: Yeah. No, look, there’s no question that when people get up in the morning, they’re worried about the economy. They are worried about their jobs, they are worried about their savings and investment, worried about whether they can pay their mortgage. That’s all understandable and that’s something that is on the ballot today. But let’s never forget that out there is an enemy as devastating, probably more devastating than any we’ve ever faced. They protect us in the homeland, these are the Islamic extremists, they ab sore our values, our way of life and, you know, this is a choice for commander-in-chief between a man who’s really inexperienced in foreign policy, a smart man, Barack Obama, well spoken but never really been tested in a crisis. And we’re not sure what he would do. John McCain tested all of his life in crises, passed the test, knows that the world has leaders who are good and some are evil and you’re not going to talk the evil ones into being good by sitting down over a cup of coffee. You know, they have got to — I always say about John McCain that he will be a President that our allies will trust and like and our enemies will fear. And that’s the kind of President we hate. So you are right, there’s an awful lot on the line today in this election. And it honestly goes to the heart of our — in a way that seems to me more intense than any election since I’ve been voting, goes to the heart of our future, really what we’re going to be as a country and a very more personal way, whether America’s going to be as strong and free and full of opportunity for my kids and grandkids as it has been, thank God, for me.

GLENN: Do you agree that with Senator Hatch — I’ve only got a minute before a network break. I hope we can hold you here. But do you agree that Senator Hatch said to me that if we don’t at least have the firewall of the filibuster in the Senate that in many ways America will not survive.

SENATOR LIEBERMAN: Well, I hope it’s not like that, but I fear. And I think for some of us there is a key. You know, it gets a bad name but it was really put there, a 60-vote requirement as somebody said to me when I first came to the Senate, stop the passions of a moment among the people of America from sweeping across the congress, the House, to the Senate and to a like minded President and having us do things that will change America for a long time. So the filibuster is one of the great protections we have. Glenn, I apologize. I’m running to go out with Senator McCain. We’re going to Colorado.

GLENN: Best of luck.

SENATOR LIEBERMAN: I’m real proud of you. I remember you back when.

GLENN: Thanks a lot. Bye-bye.