Glenn Beck: America past the point of no return?

Senator Jim DeMint of South Carolina

GLENN: Senator Jim DeMint is on the phone with us now. Senator, how are you, sir?

SENATOR DeMINT: Hey, Glenn, I’m much better now that I’m back in South Carolina and out of Washington D.C.

GLENN: I bet you are. Senator, I want to have a frank conversation with you, if we can, about the times that we’re living in and how close do you believe we are to turning a page on this country that cannot be turned back.

SENATOR DeMINT: Well, Glenn, it’s an excellent question. If I use my business mind and look at it like look at our country’s financial situation like a balance sheet, I don’t see any sustainable path or any plausible way to turn this around, in light of the experts now are saying the only way we can make the financial side of this work is to what they call debase our currency or heavily inflate it. And I think that’s why you hear countries like China and maybe Geithner even agreeing some new world currency that allows some realignment. But all of it’s a scary thought to me. But I don’t think we’re over the cliff yet. I think we but it is a time of realignment. I think our political parties have let us down. I don’t think they reflect America anymore, but Americans have to decide what we want to be. We’re fighting for the soul of our country. And as you’ve talked about a lot, we need as a country to come back to the basics of values and principles, those things that we can see through our history that worked, that made us unique, that made us prosperous, that made us a good people and those things are not coming out of the political sphere right now. So we need a realignment among the people and we need folks who really want to stand up for our country to decide we’ve got to take the politics back because for me right now the political labels mean very little because, just because they have a Republican stamp on them does not mean they are going to vote in a way that I

GLENN: Okay.

SENATOR DeMINT: That seems obviously constitutional to me.

GLENN: Senator, I want to ask you this question if that’s what you believe, and that’s what I believe. I mean, I didn’t leave the Republican Party. The Republican Party left me. You know, and I would vote for Republicans. The minute I find a Republican that I could vote for in Connecticut where I could vote for in Connecticut that actually believed in what I believe, I would vote for them. But I would vote for a Democrat if I could find them that believed in the what I believe.

SENATOR DeMINT: Right.

GLENN: Unfortunately they both believe in varying degrees of out of control spending, corruption through power and gigantic government. So they left me.

So here’s what I want to ask you. Isn’t it time for somebody to be George Washington? And I mean, I read the words of our founders. George Washington warned us about these two party systems.

SENATOR DeMINT: Right.

GLENN: Isn’t it time for somebody to say the Republican Party has left me and I will be a Republican the day they decide to come to their sense, but common sense has been lost and the clock is ticking and it’s not about the parties. And I guess what I’m trying to get to is there are people that are rallying now and they look at these tea parties and it’s anti Obama, or they’re confused. There’s nobody to be for.

SENATOR DeMINT: Right.

GLENN: There’s nobody that is in Washington that you can stand up and say, yes, I’m for that guy, and have him be the rallying point, have him be the guy who will actually stand and hold the banner.

SENATOR DeMINT: Well, Glenn, for me I don’t think we should be looking for the person. And you said this, too. We need to be we need to clarify what our principles are, particularly on the political side.

GLENN: But Senator, I understand that. But see, what’s happening is nobody listens to anybody. The good guys or the bad I don’t put you guys on TV much anymore, even the good ones.

SENATOR DeMINT: Right.

GLENN: Because I don’t think anybody’s listening to you guys. Because there has been such a you want to talk about debasement of the currency, the currency of trust has been so debased by the parties that all of course you say that; you’re a Republican. Or, of course you say that; you’re a Democrat.

SENATOR DeMINT: Right.

GLENN: Somebody needs to stand above that and say, "Look, I’m going to I don’t care if I’m ever reelected again and I’m just asking people to join me. I’m not the leader." You know, George Washington was a reluctant leader.

SENATOR DeMINT: Right.

GLENN: And we didn’t build our country on him. We built it on principles and values, but somebody like George Washington needed to stand up and say, "Here we go, gang." So who is that person?

SENATOR DeMINT: Well, I don’t know who it is right now and I think it’s and I don’t think it’s going to be any one person. I think you are going to see people around the country begin to grasp these principles and stand up and talk about just simple concepts of limited government and a free people and that free markets can work. And when we see those people standing up and leading and they are likely to come from out of the political sphere. I frankly find when I’m talking to people around the country, people who call themselves Republicans, they believe just as I do but something happens once people get elected, particularly after they stay in Washington a long time. They tend to think that all solutions have to be government solutions and when people in Washington think their job is to do what they think is best for America, which sounds wonderful but that doesn’t work. Then you have 535 people putting, you know, just kind of putting all of their wants and desires for the country in this legislation with this thousands of items in it. But that’s not what we’re there for. We’re really there to limit the power of government and I think a lot of people understand that. And what we’re seeing more and more, Glenn, is the power in America is going to go back to the people through shows like yours, radio talk shows across the country, a lot of new cable news blogs and I’m just encouraged to see people all over the country who are standing up. I mean, we get thousands of calls a week typically fighting or what are you guys thinking, those kind of things. So people are more engaged and that’s the only way we can get it back because like you said, you can put people on your show and they will say one thing and it may sound great. But then it doesn’t seem to have any resemblance to what we actually do.

GLENN: Right.

SENATOR DeMINT: So there is a lack of trust because words don’t mean anything now. But I haven’t given up because I really believe that people out across this country still get it. They are going to have to stand up and fight because I really think we have to understand. We’ve given away a lot of our freedoms with our vote and now we’re going to have to fight to get it back.

GLENN: Senator, what is the, what is the one thing, I mean because people are really I think my audience is worn out. I think Rush’s audience is worn out and Sean’s is. I mean, they are invigorated because they believe it but, you know, I think they are worn out a little bit on, I’ve called, I’ve called, I’ve called, I’ve called. What is the one thing that people should do?

SENATOR DeMINT: It’s to look back to themselves and the people sitting next to them at work or church. I still want people to call and e mail because it has helped us back people down on some pretty bad votes but don’t look to Washington. America is not Washington. It’s not Republican or Democrat. It’s a very unique people that believe in freedom. And freedom does work and actually we’re much more secure as individuals when we’re free even though there are a lot of people telling us we have to have government to keep us secure. The government should secure us in a sense of our military and defense, but all of us need to stop looking to Washington to solve our problems and to look in our communities, and the more we do for ourselves and our own families and people locally and the more we just see that just as, you know, de Tocqueville noticed about America the difference between us and France is when a person saw a problem here, they went and got a friend and tried to solve it. In France they said someone ought to do something about it and tried to get the government to do it. We’ve started doing that increasingly here in our country.

GLENN: Yep.

SENATOR DeMINT: But I still think the soul of America is alive and well. We just need to call on it to get us out of this.

GLENN: Senator, thank you very much. I appreciate it and we’ll talk again.

SENATOR DeMINT: Thanks.