Glenn Beck talks with Brad Thor

The Apostle

by Brad Thor

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GLENN: Let me go to Brad Thor who is coming in in just about 13 minutes and he’s going to be doing a special program for the Insiders at GlennBeck.com. How are you doing, Brad?

THOR: I’m doing well, Glenn, how are you?

GLENN: Very well. Brad’s one of my favorite fiction thriller writers. When is your new book coming out?

THOR: Comes out in less than two weeks, the apostle.

GLENN: The apostle? This is the one where you went over to Afghanistan, right?

THOR: It is.

GLENN: And you lied to me as a friend?

THOR: I lied to everybody because I didn’t want you know, you are one of the people who would have said, go, have a good time, you are one of the professionals. I went over and chatted for the bedrock of this thriller and one of the things they said was obviously you’ve got to tell your wife but if any more people you tell than that, you were going to spend the next three months having them say, what, are you crazy? Don’t go. Because I live in Chicago, they figure out

GLENN: Yeah, don’t go back to Chicago; what, are you crazy? What do you mean you’re going back to Chicago? Stay in Afghanistan!

So did you find over there?

THOR: You know what, it’s very interesting. By being with some guys who are working on the black side, we were not operating on an operating basis. We were going out into Indian country, saw Taliban, all that kind of stuff. What I found is the Afghans are amazing people. Afghanistan’s an incredible country, and we need to get men and women out into the countryside developing relationships on the village level so that we can find out, hey, you know, Ahmed’s got a bomb factory down the road here and he’s going to set these IEDs off along this one particular road and wait for the next American envoy to come through. The intel’s not going to walk into the bases. That’s one of the biggest things that I learned there.

GLENN: How safe are our troops under this administration, where we just sold $108 billion line of credit for the photos of Abu Ghraib? Did you know that?

THOR: I have listen, we are projecting weakness left, right and center. I’m a big believer Ralph Peters, who is a military person for Fox, Ralph had a great, great article a couple of years ago called Kill, Don’t Capture. And I am a big fan of that. We extend we hobbled ourselves with the way we conduct our affairs in warfare.

GLENN: Do you think we’re over in Iran?

THOR: I think we should be. My goodness.

GLENN: Yeah, I know we were under Bush.

THOR: I mean, Bob Baer would be the perfect guy to ask that question. And I’m sure we’ve got people over there but, boy, I tell you they ought to be loading up private jets and getting them as close to the border as we can and putting our CIA operatives in there. The time is right to be doing something.

GLENN: So let me play it the other way because I had a guy who do you know what CAG is?

THOR: Yep.

GLENN: Those are the Mission Impossible people.

THOR: I just had dinner with a CAG guy two nights ago. These are the guys who were sent in, in situations like this. These are the guys. At least this is the circle that when things are going down, these guys go in when the time is right and just push a little bit.

THOR: Right, help destabilize and just push.

GLENN: Had a guy sat with tears running down his cheeks saying, these are the circles I play in, played in them for years. We watch the news. We know. We know, when I see things in other countries, I know we’re going in. Now is the time. I’ve done it for years. Tears start rolling down his cheeks and he says, "Other countries are doing that to us right now. They are looking at the news and seeing us and go, go in."

THOR: Absolutely.

GLENN: Do you think they are here?

THOR: I have no doubts. I think they’re here. I think some of them even hold public office. That’s how serious I am about it.

GLENN: You hang on just a second. You’re saying foreign operatives hold office?

THOR: I think we have people here who hold office who are under the influence of foreign operatives. I don’t think it’s a lot but I think there are a handful of them. I think they have been here for a while. You know this whole idea that we were not going to turn to socialism overnight but we were going to do it drop by drop like water on a stone, spoonful by spoonful. Listen, if you understand and Glenn, I’ve got to tell you one of the neatest things about becoming friends with you has been my desire to learn more about politics, the history of my country. You know, your admission, your frank admission that it was 9/11 turned you, you started reading a lot more. I have felt like I was in a car circling the parking lot looking for a parking space waiting to get to the park. So Liberal Fascism, read it. 5,000 Year Leap, the Conservative Mind, I’ve gone on and on and on and on. And the more I learn about constitutional democracy and what we have versus the progressive agenda, socialism, which I believe is the end goal of the Democratic Party.

GLENN: Absolutely.

THOR: I really do believe that’s what it is. They have both come

GLENN: It’s not socialism. It’s progressivism. It’s administered socialism.

THOR: It’s statism.

GLENN: Yeah, it’s fascism. If it hadn’t been for Mussolini and the whole, you know, hanging by piano wire and Hitler thing, we would still be using the word "Fascism" for what they want.

THOR: Well, look at the cover that Hitler got here from the intelligence here, the elites.

GLENN: Absolutely.

THOR: He’s just a he needs to help Germany get back on its feet.

GLENN: Do you know, we have all these czars?

THOR: Yeah.

GLENN: Do you know what they were called back under FDR?

THOR: No. What were they called?

GLENN: Dictators. Not kidding you, actually called dictators. There was the dictator of lumber, there was the dictator of cars.

THOR: Really?

GLENN: Swear to God, called dictators. And yet these same progressives now will say we were never in love with fascism. Dictators, that’s ridiculous. No, no, they loved that system until it was discredited.

THOR: Well, and what you see, Glenn, I’m always looking to connect the dots and what I see is you’ve got this group that think they are smarter than everybody else. The common concern can’t do it for themselves, they’re smarter, which is why Obama has were you told in quote/unquote smart people who have no experience to do what they are going to do for this country.

GLENN: Exactly right. Back in just a second.

  • Anonymous

    I just read Brad Thor’s book “FULL BLACK” . It certainly sounds like what is happening to our country. And to ANY covert operators out there, THANK YOU.