Glenn talks with Dr. Alveda King

Books by Dr. Alveda King

Who We Are In Christ Jesus

 

Sons of Thunder: The King Family Legacy

 

How Can the Dream Survive If We Murder the Children?
 

GLENN: Alveda King is with us. Doctor, how are you?

ALVEDA KING: I’m just wonderful. I was listening to everything you said, and everything happens for a reason. Why are we here now? I was just really listening, Glenn.

GLENN: Why are we here now?

ALVEDA KING: Wow.

GLENN: Why are we? I mean

ALVEDA KING: Well, we’re here to reclaim America.

GLENN: No, no, no, I mean no, no

ALVEDA KING: And it doesn’t belong to us. It belongs to the people. We the people, all of us. And so we’ve got to come together to do it, Glenn. You know we do.

GLENN: Alveda, I want to start on something personal before we get into what are you expecting tomorrow and what advice do you have. But if you don’t mind if I could get a little personal. Your father died. Everybody talks about Martin Luther King, but Martin’s Martin’s brother, your father, also died. Can you tell us a little bit about him?

ALVEDA KING: Well, Dad they looked remarkably alike. Dad was the younger. There’s three, Chris King who’s still living, Martin and then my dad, A. D. And so my dad was a little taller after my uncle after they grew up and he was like a protector. So you would always see him kind of in the background like a shadow watching over his brother. My mother said that when my Uncle Martin was killed, I was in Louisville, Kentucky. Dad was preaching at a church there. They had actually bombed his church office there that year. And when he died, my daddy rushed away. I was getting ready to go to the because I was in the ROTC and we had a ball and stuff. Daddy rushed away. So my mother said after my uncle was killed, my daddy cried every night, and he was very grieved, forever grieved at the loss of his brother. Because Dad and Uncle Martin shared the same room. When they were little boys, they shared the same bed because their Uncle Joel lived there to go to college. So they were really, really, really close. I can’t emphasize how much. Kind of like the Kennedy brothers if you think about that.

GLENN: Yeah.

ALVEDA KING: And so what they would say, we killed Martin Luther King, there’s another one who looks like him, sounds like him, we ought to get rid of him, too. Yeah.

GLENN: How does it, how does it when you, when you approach this weekend and now you are standing down a couple of flights with me but standing in the same basic area and such an enormous gathering possibly, what goes through your head? I just shared the audience, what your daughter said before you left: Mom, come home.

ALVEDA KING: Yeah.

GLENN: What’s going through your head?

ALVEDA KING: Well, when I think about my children, I used to look at Daddy and Uncle Martin on TV and be at home with Daddy King, Sr. and Momma King sometimes and we would be watching the television and we would always say, yeah, we want them to come home. And they did for a long time and then one day they didn’t. But as we stand there, Glenn, and this is important, and I hope everybody understands that you are not trying to be Martin Luther King, I’m not trying to be Martin Luther King. You’re Glenn, I’m Alveda. And whoever speaks today, tomorrow, we’re all ourselves. So that’s very important. And I think I’m really happy we’re not standing on the same steps. I’m glad we’re a few steps down.

GLENN: Oh, yeah. I don’t think I would have. I think if they would have allowed us to nobody can speak up there now.

ALVEDA KING: Okay, I’m glad.

GLENN: But I think if they would have allowed us to, I don’t think I would have accepted that. I don’t that just sends the wrong message.

ALVEDA KING: It does, and I’m glad. And so what I’m thinking about is all the people who are coming, you’ve been meditating on faith, on hope, on charity, on honor, honoring God first, loving our neighbors as ourselves and honoring the military giants to me who, they are not even trying to be heroes. They just want to go out and serve. And so as we honor servants, I’m remembering that my uncle said don’t say that I wrote books, don’t say that I got awards and made all these speeches. Just tell people I want it to serve, I want it to help someone.

GLENN: That is a difference, isn’t it, Alveda?

ALVEDA KING: Well, that’s what I’m thinking about, serving others, that’s what I’m thinking about.

GLENN: Can you one piece of advice that you would have to give to people who are going to attend, what would the piece of advice be?

ALVEDA KING: Somebody called me, I don’t know if it was yesterday or today, and they said put on the full armor and that’s the helmet of salvation, sword of the spirit, breastplate of righteousness, girdle of truth, sandals of the gospel of peace and the shield of faith. And then hold up the blood stained banner of Jesus, and that banner, his banner over us is love. So, you know, you were saying before, it’s not about hating people, it’s not about being angry, let’s try to communicate, let’s try to be one. You know, it’s not about who goes to which rally or which march today. It’s about unifying ourselves in love, honoring each other. And that’s the main point. So come expecting to honor, to love. To serve. That’s what I want people to do.

GLENN: Alveda, I can’t thank you enough for not ever judging me and not, not making me feel uncomfortable that I have been an ignorant American on so much history but just being so kind and teaching me and allowing me to allowing me to even just learn from you. I can’t thank you enough and I can’t thank you for standing where you are going to stand tomorrow. I know you are under ungodly pressure now for what you are doing, and I’m sorry for that, Alveda.

ALVEDA KING: That’s okay because it comes with the territory. Did your mommy ever tell you, if you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

GLENN: Well, you are a King. I know you can stand the heat.

ALVEDA KING: It’s what I do and I feel the same way. I’m very honored to know you, to see you in your growth. I told somebody the other day that you are enlarging your tent. And I just pray that the Lord will enlarge your territory. I really do.

GLENN: God bless you.

ALVEDA KING: And you know what, Glenn, when I see you, it’s not about a red state or a blue state.

GLENN: I know.

ALVEDA KING: Or pink skin or fair skin or ebony skin or whatever.

GLENN: It’s about character.

ALVEDA KING: It’s about the character!

GLENN: Alveda King, the name of the book’s How the Dream Can Survive If We Murder the Children and Who we are in Christ, available everywhere.