GLENN: Play this from Larry King Live last night.

KING: You sued the pageant. After they fired you, they countersued and then you accuse them of a number of things including religious discrimination, clearly an issue very important to you. Why did you settle? You don’t have to tell me the terms of the settlement but why settle if you had a fight to carry on?

PREJEAN: You know what, Larry? Everything I discussed in mediation, I’ll say it again, is completely confidential. I’m not going to be able to talk about that. So I’m just letting you know that ahead of time.

KING: You can’t even say why you settled? How does that break what you settled for? I’m not asking you what the settlement was. I’m asking why did you agree to settle?

PREJEAN: It’s just a confidential agreement and I am not allowed to talk about that. So

KING: So the agreement discusses the motive behind why each party agreed?

STU: Is anybody listening at this point?

GLENN: No, I agree with him. I agree with him.

PAT: I agree with Larry King on this one. Listen to the question. It’s like, I don’t understand. You are saying your motivation is part of the agreement? That’s impossible.

GLENN: Something is wrong with Carrie Prejean. Something’s wrong here.

PAT: It’s just bizarre.

STU: Wait a minute. The question he just asked was, in this agreement was when you start in this agreement, she just said she can’t talk about the agreement.

PAT: He is not talking about the agreement. He’s talking about the motivation behind making the agreement.

STU: I understand that.

PAT: Right?

STU: There comes a obviously

PAT: He’s alluding to the fact that, look, you just had this sex tape come out and you don’t want to be hammered anymore, so you settled.

STU: I’m not saying that I mean, I haven’t seen this tape yet. It very well may be

GLENN: There is no tape I mean, there is a tape but there is no tape available. It has never been released.

STU: I wasn’t even actually talking about that particular tape.

GLENN: Oh, okay.

STU: Which is another thing. As I sit with a Playboy on my desk, maybe I will view it at some point.

GLENN: It hasn’t been released.

STU: I’m talking about the Larry King take. I don’t know how it turns out.

PAT: Hang on. Listen.

GLENN: Buckle up. Here you go.

PREJEAN: Larry, you are being inappropriate. You really are.

KING: What? I’m asking a question.

PREJEAN: I’m not going to talk about anything that was discussed in mediation. It was completely confidential and it was a confidential settlement.

KING: All I’m asking all right. In mediation it was discussed why you were mediating.

GLENN: What?

PAT: That’s a good question, I think.

PREJEAN: Larry, it’s completely confidential and you are being inappropriate, all right? You are being inappropriate.

KING: All right. Inappropriate live continues.

PREJEAN: Yes.

KING: Detroit, hello.

CALLER: Hi, I’m calling from Detroit.

GLENN: Now, while Larry is asking this question, she looks off camera. Now she’s in a different city. I think Larry is in Los Angeles. She probably was in New York. And while it looks like they’re on the same set, it’s they are not.

PAT: They are clearly not.

GLENN: They are usually not.

PAT: They are clearly not.

GLENN: And so Larry is taking this caller, this question. And you see her in the split screen and she looks off to the side.

PAT: She’s talking to somebody.

GLENN: She’s talking to somebody and she starts to take off her microphone. But in the weirdness of weirdness, she doesn’t listen. Now listen.

CALLER: Some great gay friends that helped you possibly win, what would you give them as advice if they wanted to get married?

PAT: You hear it.

KING: Did you hear their question, Carrie?

PAT: She’s taking all her stuff now.

KING: Did she hear the question?

PAT: And earpiece.

KING: Is she leaving because I asked what motivated the settlement?

PREJEAN: Excuse me?

GLENN: Now she’s not mic’ed.

KING: Did you hear the

PAT: She’s not mic’ed.

GLENN: She’s not mic’ed.

STU: Someone’s talking to her off camera there.

GLENN: Yes, but she’s sitting. She’s taking her mic off and put it down on the table.

PAT: And she’s on camera.

GLENN: And she’s on camera and she’s not moving.

PAT: She’s just standing there. And it’s bizarre.

GLENN: And so now there’s somebody off the camera says, he’s asking you if you’re leaving. Go ahead and continue.

KING: Question.

PREJEAN: Now I can’t hear you.

PAT: Yeah, you took out your earpiece!

KING: You took the mic off. If you put the mic on, we can hear you.

PREJEAN: I think that you are being extremely inappropriate right now. I’m about to leave your show.

GLENN: Stop. I’m about to leave your show. She’s still sitting there. I’m about to leave your show. I think when you took the earpiece out, you get up and leave or what is this?

STU: She didn’t win she wasn’t was mensa. I don’t know that there’s anything wrong with her.

GLENN: I’m telling you, look, this whole thing with here’s what happened, and this is

PAT: Do you have to be Miss Mensa to understand the concept here in I don’t think so.

GLENN: It’s like she’s sitting there go, I’m invisible, I’m waiting for them to transport me out of the building right now. What the heck is that?

PAT: Beam me out, Scotty! I cannot do it, Terry!

GLENN: Quick, quick, the lava rock is coming my way! Beam me out!

All right, so here’s the thing.

PAT: (Laughing).

GLENN: I’ve never had a bad thing to say about Carrie Prejean. I haven’t really even talked about her.

PAT: I defended her like crazy.

GLENN: Yeah, okay.

PAT: At the beginning.

GLENN: All right. And I have no problem.

PAT: This is weird. This is weird.

GLENN: But here’s where I’ve turned. Look. We have all well, not all of us. I have. Now, let me speak for me. I’ve done stupid things in my life, stupid.

PAT: I think we all have.

GLENN: I have done embarrassing things in my life. I’ve done wrong things in my life. I’ve wronged people. I’ve been a dirt bag in my life, okay? And things that are in the past are in the past. Have you learned from them? Well, if I’m not mistaken, when those pictures came out, first I believe the story was that she was, a picture that was taken while she was getting undressed or something like that, right? That was inappropriate?

PAT: The initial ones? Yeah, in the lingerie or whatever?

GLENN: Not the lingerie.

PAT: Of the side shot?

GLENN: Yeah. And it was taken by a photographer and it was inappropriate, and I believe that because I’ve experienced photographers. So okay? I believe that. Then it was, well, lingerie, that’s not a sex pose.

PAT: Right.

GLENN: And I’m

PAT: I’m a model.

GLENN: I’m a model and I’m a good Christian and blah, blah blah, and I believe that. Now there’s this audio where she was suing the pageant and she was suing them for a million dollars if I’m not mistaken.

PAT: Something like that, yeah.

GLENN: And they say you don’t want to go here because we have inappropriate video of you. Now, this isn’t public video, and they were wrong to use this, and I can I’ll bet you that in the middle of the lawsuit somebody said "Get her on this" and so they held this at bay and tried to scare her off from it. But she apparently made a video, if she were a movie, it would be Cool Hand Luke.

STU: My mind is racing right now.

PAT: So it’s a gun slinger movie?

GLENN: Edward Scissorhands?

PAT: She’s trimming

GLENN: She’s by

STU: She is her own co star?

GLENN: Yes.

PAT: And then she said that to her boyfriend.

GLENN: She would be an incredible soloist.

PAT: Initially now she said that wasn’t me, that was somebody else and she was horrified by it.

GLENN: And she was horrified by it, how dare you even say that, that’s not me. And apparently a lot of the video is shot with

PAT: An angle that you can’t see.

GLENN: That you are not witnessing the face, uh huh. And her mom is there with her.

PAT: At the negotiations with the pageant.

GLENN: No, no. It’s a solo act, yes.

STU: Thank you.

GLENN: And her mom and she becomes indignant: That is absolutely not me. And then the camera pans up, and it’s her. And she said, well, this was a private act with my boyfriend; I was alone; it’s none of your

PAT: Nothing’s private anymore, was her response to that.

GLENN: No, nothing is private anymore apparently.

STU: Well, you put it on a video camera.

GLENN: Yes.

PAT: And sent it to your boyfriend who you really liked at the time.

GLENN: You really liked at the time. You are pleasuring yourself on videotape. I’m sorry.

PAT: It’s a sexting thing, it was five years ago or something?

GLENN: So she’s pleasuring herself, she’s sexting herself on videotape. She denies that it is her. I’m sorry. If you did something five years ago, own up to it: That was me; you know what, that was me; I’ve made a lot of mistakes in my life, I’ve learned from them. But you cannot claim, at least for me you can’t claim that I’m just this innocent little wholesome girl. You may be today but not without redemption and atonement and admitting to the problems.

STU: Right. And to be clear, none of these things, the people who don’t like her, none of these things they would complain about if it was someone on their side.

PAT: That’s very true.

STU: But it is an issue of hypocrisy if you are sitting here claiming purity and then doing that.

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: I have to tell you something

PAT: Look, if you will sext that, if you will text message something like that to your boyfriend, there’s a really good chance am I going way out on a limb to say that there’s probably something else that you’ve been doing? I mean, if you are willing to go that far?

STU: No, it’s not a limb at all.

GLENN: How do I

PAT: And then she talks about the values and premarital sex and all of those things. There’s credibility here at stake and it’s really too bad. It’s really too bad.

STU: I don’t know why we’re reaching for credibility from a beauty contestant.

PAT: Because she put herself out as that.

GLENN: She put herself out and asked people to believe. And look, I am the last person to come to you and say, hey, you’ve got to be perfect. You don’t. Perfect people do not exist. They don’t exist.

STU: Of course not.

GLENN: Everybody makes mistakes. Everybody is going to we are all going to make a mistake today. Hopefully it’s not a sexting mistake. But we’re all going to make mistakes today. The question is do we learn from them? Do we own up to them? Especially when we’re in litigation where we are accusing people of, you are besmirching my good name; pay me a million dollars and they say don’t go here because we have this. And while you’re standing there, you made the tape. You know when you panned the camera to your hand and when you panned the camera to your face. What, do you think they only had half of the video?

STU: Again not Ms. Mensa but is this all this confirmed or is this the rumors in the press about this tape?

GLENN: It is confirmed.

STU: She admits all these details?

GLENN: Yes.

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: She was on Hannity I think when she when I was in the hospital. Another organ about jumped out of me.

PAT: Unveiled the truth, yeah.

GLENN: And I listened to her.

STU: And she said I was lying about it and all of a sudden they panned to my face?

GLENN: No, no. She just said

PAT: No, you’ve got to put the two things together. She did lie at first about it and then she told the truth about it. So

STU: But I think as far as this interview goes, I mean, I would think her defense would be they probably had some sort of agreement with people before the interview to say don’t ask me about the details, they’re private.

GLENN: Here’s the problem. In her defense

PAT: Make the case.

GLENN: In her defense I just had a conversation with somebody yesterday and we’ll talk about it in coming days.

STU: Hmmm.

GLENN: But I had a conversation with somebody yesterday and they said, well, you know, you don’t, you know, you don’t want to answer these questions or you don’t want to I have no problem. I will talk to anyone about anything, as long as we’re having an honest conversation where we’re really looking for the truth about things and we’re having a dialogue. Not gotcha. So in her defense, she’s under attack all the time. Do you think that call from Detroit, it could be that that was an honest question. It also could have been some setup question.

STU: Right, I’m sure it was.

PAT: Almost certain.

GLENN: Everything is a setup now to get em.

STU: Right. We live in that culture. It’s just, what’s on YouTube today.

GLENN: Correct. So I don’t have a problem with her I’m sure that they had some agreement. My problem on that came from, get up and leave if you’re going to get up and leave. Again you’re

STU: Yeah, what’s their motivation there? It’s just dumb. It’s just a stupid blonde moment, isn’t it? I mean, it’s just a girl who’s not particularly brilliant, not realizing what she should or should not do and under a lot of pressure. There’s no secret agenda here. She’s just butchering a bad situation.

GLENN: You can’t here’s the lesson from Carrie Prejean. It’s going to come out. Whatever you’ve done, it’s going to come out.

STU: Be honest with yourself.

GLENN: Right. Be honest with yourself. It’s the only way that you can survive life and then be honest with others. You don’t have to get into the gory details. But don’t try to hide it. Look, gang, if you read about it, there’s a shot that I did it. Yeah. I mean, if it was against the law other than drugs, most likely no. But there’s a shot. I mean, I saw this thing and I’m like, gee, I don’t think I made any sex take place, did I?

STU: Yeah, yeah.

GLENN: You know, but you’ve got to be you have to be honest with yourself.

STU: Right. You are saying be honest with yourself especially if you are doing other things with yourself.

PAT: Like being dishonest?

STU: I don’t know. At least other things. That’s why I kept it open.

GLENN: At least take yourself out for drinks.