GLENN: When I first walked in to this great restaurant I’ve never been to before, when I walked in, my makeup and hair people and everything that do all the stuff for our show, they were there and Sarah was sitting in a chair and she was she had her BlackBerry and she was going on her BlackBerry and I walked in and I said, Governor, how are you? And she said, Fine, Glenn. Oh, how great to meet you, etc., etc. And it was kind of an awkward because I feel like I know her and so I she was sitting in the chair and I kind of reached over and grabbed her hand and kissed her on the cheek and I said, Thank you so much for doing this. And she said, No problem. She said, I’m just preparing now. And I said, What do you mean? And she held up her BlackBerry and she said, Oh, I’m wondering why you have me here at the Statue of Liberty. And I said, Because it’s a symbol of trust and I think that’s what we’ve lost and that’s what this show is about is trust and I want to point that out. And she said, So, you’re not going to ask me about the 25 windows?
Stu: The 25 windows?
Glenn: I said, The 25 windows? What are you talking about, the 25 windows? She said, The 25 windows. Come on. Don’t play with me. 25 windows, they stand for the different minerals. I said, You could be making that up right now. I have no idea. There are 25 windows in the Statue of Liberty?
Stu: And they stand for minerals?
Pat: I didn’t know that.
Glenn: And she said, So, the seven points? I said, Which points? And she said, The ones on her head, you know, the crown. And I said, I mean, I can challenge you that it’s not a crown, but what are the seven points? And she said, The seas and the continents. And I said, no, we’re not going down that road. And she just looked at me like, Um Hum. And I turned around and I walked off for a minute. I come back and she’s still Googling. So, now she’s Googling now she’s Googling Ellis Island. Her shields were so high. I have never met now, I will tell you this: Debra, who does makeup for the show, she was the one and I think I shared this story with you she was the one that said to me at the end of last year, she said, well, it’s a year. How do you feel? And I said, Tired. And she said, Yeah. I can tell. And I said she said, I can tell. Television does that to you and television changes you. And I said, Oh, geez, Debra. Have I changed? She said, Yes, you have. And I said, Oh, this doesn’t sound good. How? She said, It’s actually quite sad. She said, You don’t trust anybody anymore. When you came here a year ago, you trusted people. You don’t trust anybody. And I said, It’s true. I don’t. I don’t want that to bleed into my real life. I just don’t trust Washington and I just don’t trust anybody in the media, but other than that, I still trust people. Sarah Palin is exactly the same way. As high as my shields are when I, you know, bump into Katie Couric or, you know, I walk onto a set with Jay Leno or whatever, my shields are very high. I don’t even think I have shields as big and as thick and as high as Sarah Palin. What she has gone through is remarkable. I asked her on the air and she didn’t really answer, she didn’t give the specifics. I said, Do you know when you stopped trusting people? And I don’t think she’ll mind me telling, because it was something that happened after the show, she told me the moment that she stopped trusting people in the media and it’s exactly, exactly I mean almost identical situation on when I stopped trusting people in the media. The one thing I learned about Sarah Palin is we’re very similar in our experiences . The other thing I learned about Sarah Palin is we couldn’t be more different. Todd showed up with frost bite on his face. I said, you know it’s 2009. You don’t have to be outside anymore. And he just looked at my like I was an alien life form. He is a man’s man and the most honest part of the conversation yesterday, the part where I went, this is why I like you, and I didn’t say it out loud. I’m going to play it and I think it’s why you like her, as well, but I don’t know if it translated to television. I don’t know if you could feel it, but a moment happened on television last night where, in fact, you can hear the pause before I ask the next question, because I was wrestling with what I was going to say because that one took me by surprise. All I can think is when she was saying it, was I believe you. I 100 percent believe you. You’re telling the truth. And I’ll play that for you here in just a second and share with you what happened afterwards, to where the point where she said, I can’t trust people in the media at all.
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Glenn: 1 888 727 BECK. I want to play for you one of the more honest point, in fact, the point where I said, this is what America needs to know about Sarah Palin and it is the place where I thought she was the not that I felt that she was untruthful anywhere else. So, I can’t say it was the most truthful, because I don’t think she lied to me at all. I think she was the most unguarded here. I don’t think anybody can ask her a question at this point and have her risk, you know you can’t really know what a President is going to do unless they’re willing to go out on a limb. You can’t have a real conversation. This is what I tried to have with her yesterday, not an interview and a gotcha, but a conversation. And I think she is very cautious and so you can’t really have that unless you can’t really have a conversation unless the person is willing to risk and she’s done I think she’s done enough risking for awhile, but she spoke of the future and I believed her. We’re going to play that here in a couple of seconds, because we have to take a break here and I don’t want to cut it off and I want you to hear the whole thing. The other thing is I asked her on the air, When did you stop trusting? And she said whatever she said on the air, but off the air I had the magazine cover of Time that I signed and had the magazine cover of Newsweek, which she signed. The Newsweek cover was. Ment how do you stop this Sarah Palin problem? And had her in the, you know, shorts. Mine was on Time: Madman: Is Beck bad for America? So, we signed them for a charity thing that we’re both involved in. And I said to her, you know, Sarah, this is when when this picture was taken, this is when I stopped trusting people. And I told her the story behind that picture and I told her the story approximate who took it and how they took it and how they just lied to me, without a soul, without a soul. This photographer was one of the most despicable people ever met because she didn’t have any problem lying to my face and we had a contract on it and everything else and all the people involved were and then Time, they didn’t care. They just took that photo and just used it in a different way and nobody cared. Nobody cared. And she looked at me and she said, this is the same story with me. This is when I knew. This is when I knew. She said that. We had a contract on that. It wasn’t supposed to be used in any way. I said, same story. And she said when somebody I guess it’s because you know, it’s like the Native Americans. They didn’t want their pictures taken because it takes your soul. That’s kind of the way you feel when you first the photographer and they take a picture, they really are taking your image and you have to trust them. If you’re going to do anything risky at all, you trust them and when they look you in the eye and say, No, no, no. Don’t worry about it and then you go the extra distance and you have a contract but it doesn’t matter, you think these people have no soul whatsoever. Is Sarah Palin the one? Could she be the next President of the United States? The answer is: Yes, but I have to give it a caveat because there’s one thing that I require. There’s one thing and I think you’ll understand when I say it and I’ve only seen it from her one time and it’s the one thing that Sarah Palin needs to have if she wants be to be the President of the United States, but I’m not convinced that she does want to be the President of the United States. I’m not convinced that’s the direction she’s going, and I’ll share why I say that coming up in just a second.
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Glenn: 1 888 727 BECK, 1 888 727 BECK is the phone number. Sarah Palin, is she the one? People ask me all the time, Glenn, is she the one? Is she going to be the one? Can she be President, etc., etc. Can she be? Yes. Will she be? Well, if it’s up to the Republicans, I doubt it. I think it’s Mitt Romney’s turn, which drives me crazy, but I think they take turns. Is she qualified? Yes, with a caveat. I need to see one thing and I didn’t even feel it in her yesterday and it’s really sad because it’s a good thing that I didn’t feel it in her. I’ve seen it only once from her and it was magnificent when I saw it, but if she wants to be the President of the United States, she needs to demonstrate it a couple of more times and I’ll share that with you, coming up in just a second. I wanted to play the most honest thing and this is why this is, I think, the most important part of being President, myself. I mean, you have to have the aptitude and the intelligence and everything else, but, please, stop insulting Sarah Palin. I mean, all you have to do is go back and look at every single Republican. Look at them all. George Bush, he was dumb. George Bush, the first one, he was dumb. Ronald Reagan, he was dumb. Dan Quayle, he was dumb. Gerald Ford, he was dumb. Nixon was a crook. I mean, it is the MO on everybody. That is the way they do it. Let’s stop buying into the dumb thing. You may not agree with her. You may not think she has the right answers. You may not have heard enough of the answers, whatever. That’s fine. But she’s not dumb. Stop insulting her. Here was the most, to me, the most honest piece during the hour long interview, it was this yesterday. Listen to the setup.
Glenn: But the real answer is I came this close to losing my soul once because I bottomed out and went down the wrong path and excuse my poise voice. I’m sorry, Governor, but the I needed the atonement probably more than anybody else I know and I got it and I made a promise I would never I would never violate trust, I would keep my word, do the hard thing, I would I would follow just live the 10 commandments. Try that one on for size. I don’t think you can go to Washington and not lose your soul.
Glenn: I’ve never met somebody who went to Washington and came back and I went, you’re a better person. Have you?
Palin: Come to think of it, I don’t know if I have, Glenn.
Glenn: How do you
Glenn: Stop for a second. That was genuine. She didn’t I don’t think she had thought of it that way before. I could see in her that she was, you know, the hum, hum, but when I said, have you? That was an honest search in her, you know, data bank, scanning, scanning. No. But here it comes.
Glenn: The system is so infected. How do you as an individual go in. I’m not asking if you’re going to run, but let’s just say you were going to run.
Palin: Uh huh.
Glenn: How do you go in and how do I, as a voter, know that you’re not going to cut so many side deals to get that power, that by the time you have that power, you’re no longer who we needed?
Palin: I think a voter first needs to sincerely know and it sounds impossible, but sincerely know who that candidate is to see what their track record is and to see if they have lost their soul along the way.
Glenn: We’re not even talking about track record anymore. We’re talking we’re not talking about how did you vote. We’re talking about trust. How do you restore trust and honor? How do you how do we even know anymore?
Palin: That’s what everybody is asking. That’s what those who are conscientious and concerned about America are asking and those who are so disenchanted and disgusted with Washington DC, I don’t have that answer. I’m asking the same thing. How do we know that we can trust what’s going on in the White House? The White House?
Glenn: Do you know?
Palin: I don’t know. I don’t know, but I don’t feel that some of the things that they are doing are trustworthy.
Glenn: I have to tell you that every time I bring up your name and somebody says, who’s out there, I answer one of two ways. I’m waiting for George Washington to appear and then it’s usual followed by your name. And I say, but I don’t know.
Palin: Uh huh, uh huh.
Glenn: Listen to her answer here. This is it.
Glenn: I don’t know I don’t know if you’re smart enough. I find this insulting. Your kids must find that extraordinarily insulting when they hear that. It’s not that you’re not capable or anything else. I don’t know. I don’t know I can’t give my trust out to anybody anymore.
Palin: Yeah, yeah.
Glenn: Every time you do, they burn you. Every time you’re, like, oh.
Palin: It’s because we have a fallen world and mankind has fallen and we can never put I don’t believe that we were created to be able to put our faith wholly, solely, except for our spouse, in another person, certainly not in a politician. I don’t believe that except, you know, looking back on our founding fathers and seeing the sincerity there, the genuine love that they had of country, I don’t think in recent days we can find too many of those politicians.
Glenn: That’s why we’ve got to stop taking from the barrel and start picking from the free.
Glenn: Can you stop for a second? Notice she says a fallen world. I mean, this is, as many of the left has their Saul Alinsky speech, this is religious speak. We’re in a fallen world. So, you can’t, except for your spouse, which I really like her spouse, you can’t really trust anybody but your spouse. You can’t really lend that and get into anybody else but your spouse. I thought that was critical, but now listen.
Palin: You know, well, all of them because they came collectively together with so much diverse
Glenn: Bull crap. Who’s your favorite?
Palin: so much diverse opinion and so much diversity in terms of belief but collectively to form the union.
Palin: No. And they were led by, of course, George Washington. So, he’s got to rise to the top. Washington was the consummate statesman. He served. He returned power to the people. He didn’t want to be a king. He returned power to the people. Then he went back to Mount Vernon. He went back to his farm. He was almost reluctant to serve as President, too. And that’s who you need to find to serve in government, in a bureaucracy, that’s who you know will serve for the right reasons, because they’re reluctant to get out there and seek a limelight and see power. They’re doing it for the people. That was George Washington.
Glenn: Okay. Now, everybody just let it run. Just let it run, Sarah. Just bring it down a bit. Everybody is everybody’s talking about George Washington and she’s talking about George Washington and everybody is saying that I said "bull crap" here, "Oh, bull crap," but listen to how she this is why she likes George Washington. Listen.
Glenn: So beyond question that he can bring people together and say, Look. We’ve got to do this. It’s going to be hard.
Palin: That’s exactly what we need to seek in a candidate, someone I’ll repeat this almost reluctant to serve. Someone who will not prostitute themselves and say what they believe a voter wants to hear at that time in order to get elected, but someone who the people find and ask, will you sacrifice, will you do this for our country to get us back on the right track.
Glenn: That is why I think you’re on the most admired list, because some people find you to be that. As you came out of the blue and you did serve, you were asked to serve and you got butchered and you continually get butchered and, yet, you’re still going.
Palin: Well, let me tell you one thing in that vein. I would be perfectly happy to go back to Wasilla, Alaska, with my five children and my grandson and raise a happy, healthy family, loving our great outdoors, doing the things that we do in Alaska, but if I believe that in some capacity I can help this great nation, I’m going to be willing to sacrifice and to
Glenn: Stop, stop. This was the most unguarded she was, when she said, I am absolutely willing to go back to Wasilla and live out my life. That eight seconds was absolutely true. I think there’s a big part of her that says and I think part of it I don’t have anything to back this up except my thinking about Todd with frost bite all over his face, standing there Manhattan. I mean, this is, like, a foreign this is like putting, you know this is like putting Norah O’Donnell on the moon. I mean, it’s a foreign landscape. Putting Todd Palin in Manhattan had be to be just like, what am I doing here? It’s weird here. He’s got frost bite on his face because he was out having fun and doing you know, living the great outdoors. There’s a big part of her that I think would be totally fine and wrestles with, I’m just going back. I don’t need this. I don’t care. A willingness to serve.