GLENN: I want to, I want to talk to you a little bit about the fundamental transformation of this country that you and I have been seeing come for a long time. Some people have been on board and preaching this for a lot longer than I have. And it doesn’t matter if you are just waking up today. The point is, wake up. I talked about that our country is like the Titanic. It’s supposedly the strongest ship ever built, the unsinkable Titanic. But it’s that arrogance that caused them to not have enough lifeboats because this ship is unsinkable. Had they not had that arrogance, people would have lived. If they had not had that arrogance, perhaps they would have been more vigilant around the ice. If they hadn’t have said the ship is unsinkable, perhaps the Titanic would have pulled into New York and we wouldn’t know the name of the ship Titanic because it was just another ship and they come and go. We have the same arrogance on our country. It’s unsinkable, it will always be this way. And because of that arrogance, we don’t build lifeboats. We think that it will always be this way. We think that nothing could ever sink it, nothing could ever change. Even though, unlike the Titanic, we had a rip in the side. We missed an iceberg, just barely, and it ripped part of our side open. That was on September 11th. And we all looked at each other and then we looked at the captain of the ship and he said, don’t worry, everything’s going to be okay. Even though we all looked at each other in that moment and said, oh, my gosh..

I was thinking this last night. Do you realize that it was nine years ago, nine. If I would have said to you on September 12th, 2001, in less than nine years, 8 1/2, we will not have any more terrorist activity, no terrorist will hit us on our own soil in the next 8 1/2 years but we will destroy ourselves from the inside. We will spend our way into oblivion. We won’t even listen to people’s campaign promises. They will be able to say anything and get away with it. The corruption inside of Washington will be so strong and so severe, and the administration and those members in congress will reveal themselves as Maoists, Marxists, and revolutionaries, and in eight to nine years we will talk about the fundamental transformation of America, and the American president will go from sea to sea, continent to continent, apologizing for America. You would have called me insane. Look where we are.

Yesterday I had what’s his face on for a full hour. I said during the show last night, I’m sorry that I wasted your time because our problems are so enormous. But I held out hope that when a man loses everything and is at the bottom, he will turn his life around. I’m willing to roll the dice because I turn my life around. I believe in redemption. The guy I had on said he understood that. Clearly he didn’t. Michelle Malkin was on yesterday. We had not her but because of some other things that I took out on her, and I apologized both on and off the air to her yesterday, I you know, she said, why are you having him on? Why are you spending an hour with him? There are other better people. And she’s right. She was right about him. Complete and total dirt bag. However I think even though I said we wasted your time yesterday, I think we accomplished more in an hour to put this story to bed because it would have gone on and on and on for three weeks people arguing back and forth about him. The guy hung himself in an interview that couldn’t have been seven minutes, couldn’t have been half hour. By the end of the how are you knew exactly who this guy was, and we don’t need to spend any more time on him. And that’s why we have to, because of what I said about the Titanic, what I said about 8 1/2 years, look how fast things are happening. We’re running out of time. We need some bold people that are willing to tell the truth and fall on their own sword. We need some people to stand up for what is right, righteous and true. He’s clearly not the guy. We’ll move on and continue to educate on what’s going on and who’s responsible.

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Michelle Malkin is back with. Hello, Michelle.

MALKIN: Hi, Glenn.

GLENN: Good, how are you doing? I know you are not the kind that would ask me for this, but I am the kind to volunteer it, you were right.

MALKIN: Well

GLENN: No no no, enjoy it.

MALKIN: No I don’t actually. You know watching it all unfold is sad, you know it makes me mourn for our country, it makes me mourn for the lack of integrity in Washington and you know I said at the beginning of our interview yesterday, Glenn, that I was going to watch and that while I thought that there were lost opportunities, on the other hand in the end, it ended up being a very useful thing to watch and

GLENN: What was the use in it for you?

MALKIN: Well, I think just the painful prolonged exposure of someone who was obviously a creep ocrat which, you know, many of us who had followed his career and many folks out there who know about his long history and I think this is one of the unplumped points that is yet to be exposed. He has had a long history of doing this. I have heard from folks who served with him in the Navy who tried to warn people about it and now they will be heard, I think thanks to this, you know, pretty much extensive and unassailable exposure of his sordid character.

GLENN: Do you think how I ended the show last night is how I started the show. I said, you have to ask yourself these questions and then you have to say, does it affect me. And I’m not interested in theoretical news. I’m only interested in the news that I can apply to make myself better or our country better.

MALKIN: Yes.

GLENN: And I don’t think this affects anyone at this point. Now it’s just theoretical because I don’t think they are really going to clean anything up. It’s like Charlie Rangel. They are not going to clean it up. If it affects them, if it helps them, they will clean it up. If it doesn’t, they don’t care.

MALKIN: Yeah. Well, I’ll say that it affects folks to this extent. This isn’t just about Eric Massa, and we know that. This is about a House ethics committee that is essentially a corruption enabling cesspool and has been under both Republican and Democrat administrations. And to the extent that your audience and activists and people who care about integrity and government and returning this government to the limits and the constitutional accountability that it should have, I think that pointing to the House ethics committee and this shadow office of congressional ethics that was set up in the wake of the Abramoff scandals is something that you can do. I mean, here you have a woman who got up, wields her gavel and then invokes her gender as some sort of sense of moral superiority that now that a woman is in charge, we really will drain the swamp? Somebody needs to hold her accountable for those promises. And that’s people who are going to be able to go to the polls in 2010 and 2012 and people who are going to be able to run office and show these creepocrats and corruptocrats how to run a clean government.

GLENN: Did you hear the audio from Nancy Pelosi?

MALKIN: I did.

GLENN: Is that, when she says play it here for me, Pat. When she says this isn’t about diabetes, this is about diet, this should take the breath away from people.

PELOSI: You’ve heard about the controversies within the bill, the process about the bill, one of the items. But I don’t know if you have heard that it is a legislation for the future. Not just about healthcare for America but about a healthier America. Where preventive care is not something that you have to pay a deductible for or an out of pocket. That prevention, prevention, prevention’s about diet, not diabetes.

GLENN: Stop. That is remarkable because it’s all about control. This shows Glenn the lies. This isn’t about, this is about control of every aspect of your life.

MALKIN: It’s always about power and I think as a parallel to that, of course, you’ve got a first lady, Michelle Obama, who’s waging this antiobesity campaign and the question that I always ask, have to ask is what is this really about? Who is this really serving? And as I pointed out a couple of ways ago, this is not about trimming children’s waistlines. This is about a union power grab. She wants to expand the child nutrition act because who does it serve the most? The purple shirted army of the Service Employees International Union whose members are serving the kids in the cafeterias. It’s about beefing up their membership roles and fattening their coffers. It is always about power, particularly with these healthcare campaigns. And expansions of government into the healthcare arena.

GLENN: Real quick because I’m running about four minutes late.

MALKIN: Yep.

GLENN: But let me just ask you, does this pass? Do you think this passes? Are they going to get this through, healthcare?

MALKIN: There are no inevitabilities in politics. I think that’s what the last year has shown. I mean, that is the purpose of

GLENN: But what’s your gut say?

MALKIN: No. My gut says no. I mean, there have been enough people who have pounded the pavements on the streets over the last year and I think that, you know, with Obama on the road show, it really is crunch time now. You cannot depend on the House and Senate parliamentarians to stop this.

GLENN: I have to tell you, I you were right yesterday. I hope you’re right now. Okay. Thanks a lot, Michelle.

MALKIN: Thanks a lot, Glenn.

GLENN: We’ll talk again. Bye bye.