Glenn Beck: The 51st State?
April 28, 2010 - 3:00 ET
GLENN: I'm going to put a congressman on the phone with us in just a second, but I want to explain, I want to explain a little bit of something about what you're going to hear. I want you to understand that now in Washington we can't talk about principles and more. We can't talk about anything that is real anymore. All we talk about, when you talk about anything that's happening in Washington, you must frame it in, "This is only about politics and the future power for any given group of people." That's really all it is.
Now, there are those in Washington that are fighting for a reduction of that power, but there are very few of them. Remember also that the progressive party, the progressive party is only about power and control. Progressives, if you understand it the way they do in England and in Europe, progressives are Fabian socialists. They are left and right, Nazi and communist. Here left is used to be big government; right is anarchy. Used to be. Now left and right more and more are big government, both sides. Your only choice, big government. If I said to you that this government is going to do something wait, wait. Let me give you the third principle of progressivism. Big government, left and right doesn't matter. Two is democracy, democratically elected. Democracy is a very important word. We're a republic. That's why they use democracy. Democratically elected, let me give you just a list of a few people who have been democratically elected. Chavez, Castro, Ahmadinejad, Hitler, Mussolini I believe was democratically elected, democratically elected. Usually in a progressive world democratically elected comes with a little twist. There's always something that happens. For instance, Hitler wasn't the Führer. He was the chancellor, democratically elected. And then he cobbled together a coalition that everybody said, oh, no, that will never happen here. And it did, and he became the Führer. Democratically elected always has a little something special to it, in the progressive world. Power. Parties don't matter, principles don't matter. Power and control. Democratically elected.
And the third one? Social justice. Got it? If I told you that our congress, with everything that is going on, they are going to pick up a bill tomorrow and vote on let's see if I I love. I have to get this one exactly right. A Puerto Rican Democracy Act. We have the Puerto Rico democracy act. Who could be against democracy? This is to officially sanction self determination for Puerto Rico. Why do we need to do that in congress, why would we I mean, you can self determine. That's fantastic, great. Why are we doing that? What you're about to hear is going to sound like a conspiracy theory. Tonight on television I'm going to tell you about the evidence now. Tonight on television I will show it to you and your friends. You need to tell everybody. Listen or watch today because you're about to sew another star on the flag of the United States and it will happen, and you have no you'll be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, what?
Congressman Jason Chaffetz who is from Utah is with me now. Jason is one of these guys who is in there swinging and one of the few that I have met. Congressman Bachmann is the same way. Jim DeMint is the same way. They will fall on their sword. It doesn't matter. You vote them out, that's fine. They are willing to go down; they are just not willing to go down without a fight.
Jason Chaffetz, welcome, congressman, how are you, sir?
CONGRESSMAN CHAFFETZ: Hey, thanks, Glenn, fired up. Glad to be on. I appreciate it.
GLENN: Tell me about what congress is going to do tomorrow.
CONGRESSMAN CHAFFETZ: Well, there's a push to push this HR 2499. I see it as part of a four pronged plan that I see to really change the environment here in the United States of America. Amnesty for people who are here illegally, voting rights for criminals and felons. They wanted D.C. voting rights, something, got this little thing called the Second Amendment got in the way. They weren't willing to put it forward, but they certainly wanted to do something I believe was unconstitutional and give Washington D.C. voting rights. And now this 2499, which is the Puerto Rico statehood bill which is being pushed by the new progressive party in Puerto Rico trying to create a federally sanctioned; that is, a U.S. sanctioned vote that they say is nonbinding but would give them the legitimacy to then come back and try to seat people in the United States congress.
GLENN: Okay, before listen, don't put the cart before the horse. Let's see the horses first. What is it on Thursday that you are actually voting on, tomorrow?
CONGRESSMAN CHAFFETZ: Well, what it does is it allows the, from the federal government standpoint
GLENN: Wait, wait, wait, wait. Jason?
CONGRESSMAN CHAFFETZ: Yeah.
GLENN: Start at the beginning. Tell me what the bill actually is, what it's being presented as.
CONGRESSMAN CHAFFETZ: It's being presented as a nonbinding vote. It's just, it will allow the people of Puerto Rico to vote in a nonbinding way and that the passage of the bill would then allow them to go back in a two step process in Puerto Rico to vote on whether or not they want statehood.
GLENN: Okay. So we're basically in a nonbinding way saying you guys have the right to vote for whatever you want and we support your self determination.
CONGRESSMAN CHAFFETZ: Uh huh.
GLENN: Right?
CONGRESSMAN CHAFFETZ: Uh huh.
GLENN: Why would anyone think that this is necessary? Don't they already have the right to vote?
CONGRESSMAN CHAFFETZ: This is not that's my point is it's not necessary.
GLENN: Yes.
CONGRESSMAN CHAFFETZ: In 1952, 1967, 1993 and 1998 the people in Puerto Rico voted on statehood and they voted it down all four times.
GLENN: Okay. The reason why, America, is because they are currently getting services but they are not paying for it.
CONGRESSMAN CHAFFETZ: Exactly.
GLENN: And this is going to be a trick of the left. The progressives are saying they are getting all of these services when this all starts to come down, "They're getting all these services. What, conservatives, you want us to go bankrupt? They should be paying for those. They should be paying taxes." Remember this, that you period it here. That's going to be the argument for the left: They're being fiscally responsible.
CONGRESSMAN CHAFFETZ: Yeah.
GLENN: Okay. So now what is this bill exactly? Reality?
CONGRESSMAN CHAFFETZ: Well, in reality it's going to give them the legitimacy that if they go down and say we want change and that they can just, by a very, very small margin say that, yeah, we want statehood, then suddenly they are going to implement what they call the Tennessee plan, which has historically been how they seat people in congress, they will implement a Tennessee plan. It's part of their party platform. They will get this, "Hey, we did what the federal government told us to do. We're now going to send you our two United States senators and our six members of congress, and you have to seat them."
GLENN: And we will sew another star on the flag.
CONGRESSMAN CHAFFETZ: That's what some of us who understand this bill are so just frightened about because America, before this show, probably hasn't even heard that this bill's even coming up.
GLENN: Nope, and I have to tell you
CONGRESSMAN CHAFFETZ: And it happens tomorrow.
GLENN: Jason, we heard about this yesterday, we talked to you immediately about it, and you have been on it. We've done research. We had researchers on this thing all night. We have unbelievable evidence that we're going to show tonight, and it is everything that we have talked about on this program. And I want to bring it back real quick to and I'll explain more in a minute here, America, on how this whole thing is going to work. But before Jason goes, I want to talk to you about this one thing. Where you started, you said this is about really the fundamental transformation of America. This is what I said when we had Van Jones in, or when we were first looking at Van Jones. He was in the prisons and he was making the rounds in prisons saying "We need you to fix our economy, we need people like you." And I asked, why are we doing that? When we had the stimulus package, jobs were taken to build solar panels in New York from a solar panel company. That went under so they could move the money and the solar panel business to the prisons. And I said at the time, these people are quoting are courting the prison vote right now. They're trying to let prisoners vote, correct? Illegals vote. Puerto Rico will have statehood. Am I missing anybody else?
CONGRESSMAN CHAFFETZ: Washington, D.C.
GLENN: Washington, D.C. So you've got a whole new pool of voters. Jason, what happens to anyone that is not progressive? I don't care if it's a Republican or Democrat. What happens to anyone that says small government if all of those things happen?
CONGRESSMAN CHAFFETZ: What's frightening, that's what's frightening around here. We need people to get up out of their seats and let their representatives know they got to vote this thing down because it's unnecessary. There are a lot of misleading tactics on this. Have 181 co sponsors on this bill. 58 of them are Republican. And I tell you probably most of those, from my personal point of view, have been misled. They do not understand what they are voting for on this vote.
GLENN: Or they will be told by people in the progressive wing of the Republican Party, "You won't be able to stand because this is going to you'll be called a racist, you'll be called this, that." This is this thing has been set up for so long, Americans had no idea the meat grinder that was being prepared for them, and we're being shoved through this meat grinder. And unless you put all the pieces together, your democracy your republic is gone and it's replaced by a democratically elected progressive government.
CONGRESSMAN CHAFFETZ: Glenn, one thing I want people to know is I really do believe that the majority of people in Puerto Rico don't even necessarily want this. They voted it down four times in a row.
GLENN: Jason, have you seen the part yet about they are now trying to slip in that if you're in Puerto Rico or you are just from Puerto Rico
CONGRESSMAN CHAFFETZ: That's right.
GLENN: but move to the United States, you'll be able to vote.
CONGRESSMAN CHAFFETZ: There are 2.5 million people who were born in Puerto Rico that now live in the Continental United States that under this bill would be allowed to vote on what should happen to Puerto Rico. That is just absolutely unbelievable to me. I just can't believe that they are going to allow somebody who's now living in Chicago to be voting on this bill in Puerto Rico.
GLENN: Well, I don't I mean, what? You have a problem with democratically elected ideas, democratically voted on ideas, Jason?
CONGRESSMAN CHAFFETZ: Well, the other thing that
GLENN: It's a great set up.
CONGRESSMAN CHAFFETZ: I hope you talk about is how the new progressive party has sent people here to serve in congress, sometimes as quote/unquote Republicans, sometimes quote/unquote Democrats.
GLENN: Mmm hmmm.
CONGRESSMAN CHAFFETZ: But they all come from the quote/unquote Republican governor of Puerto Rico is the chairman of the new progressive party.
GLENN: It is Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson all over again. Parties mean nothing, nothing. It is only about the size of the government and who controls it. That's how you get a choice between Nazi and communist. When both sides want gigantic government, that's how you get that. Not through a republic with limited powers.
Jason, thank you very much.
CONGRESSMAN CHAFFETZ: Thanks, Glenn.
GLENN: You bet. Bye bye. Keep up the good work. Jason Chaffetz is a brave, brave individual, brave individual. Thank God there is a few people like him. You've got to tell your congressmen "Enough, no on Puerto Rico."
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