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GLENN: Okay. I’ve been busy on these things and Pat and Stu have been trying to follow what’s going on especially, my favorite story I think has to come from Baucus.

PAT: Yeah, Max Baucus from Montana which is a pretty conservative state, I think he is going to have a really good time in his next election cycle because the guy is just getting smarter and smarter and more in touch with his constituents every day. Here’s what he has said about the healthcare bill. He and Kathleen Sebelius were in Montana talking about the healthcare bill and people were asking him, well, Max, you helped author this thing. Did you read ‑‑ did even you read the whole bill? Because we’re a little hacked off that ‑‑ and there it is. There’s hacked off for you. We’re a little hacked off that people haven’t read the bill. And he said I ‑‑

GLENN: I love these people who say read the bill.

PAT: Read the bill.

CONYERS: I love these members that say read the bill. What good is reading the bill if it’s 1,000 pages and you don’t have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read the bill.

PAT: That’s what I… read the bill?

GLENN: Okay. So Max?

PAT: So Max says I don’t ‑‑ look, I don’t think you want me to waste my time to read every page of the healthcare bill. You know why? It’s statutory language. We hire experts. What?

GLENN: Wait.

PAT: We didn’t hire experts. We elected you!

GLENN: You. You’re the one who’s supposed to do it for us!

PAT: I get a kick out of these people who say read the bill.

GLENN: You know ‑‑

PAT: Read every page.

GLENN: Can I tell you something?

PAT: I get people who do that.

STU: Know what you’re voting on.

PAT: Know, know what you’re talking about. I get a kick out of these people. You know how hard it is to know what I’m talking about? I pay people a lot of money to know what I’m talking about.

STU: Have an idea of where you are sending our trillion dollars.

PAT: I get a kick out of ‑‑ do you know how much money we make? A lot. I can’t keep track of trillions of dollars. I’d need a couple of accountants to do that.

GLENN: It’s like, do you have the audio of Donald Rumsfeld on September 9th, 2001, saying we’ve found a discrepancy here; it appears that the Pentagon has misplaced or lost $2 trillion.

STU: He’s criticizing that, by the way.

GLENN: I know that. No, I know that. No, he’s like, we’ve got to get to the bottom of it. We never got to the bottom of it. I never heard anything about the $2 trillion. How do you misplace $2 trillion? Where did I put ‑‑ honey, where did I put my wallet? I mean, what, are you kidding me?

STU: The greatest thing is you actually are misquoting that number. I believe it was $2.3 trillion, which means you just left off $300 billion in a rounding error.

PAT: Nice spin trying to cover for the Bush administration again, Glenn. That’s great. Way to go.

GLENN: Unbelievable.

PAT: But when you’re just a Republican hack.

STU: When you are dropping off $300 billion because it’s not of consequence to the amount of number, money you are talking about, that’s a problem.

GLENN: That’s a lot of money, yeah, that’s a lot of money.

PAT: But that’s where it’s gotten, isn’t it? It’s so big now.

GLENN: $300 billion used to be real money.

PAT: Not anymore. It’s not.

GLENN: Remember when $300 billion was $300 billion? Now, why read the bill?

PAT: $300 billion?

GLENN: I kept that in my sock drawer for years.

PAT: I can’t even buy a small third world nation for $300 billion.

GLENN: Why shouldn’t Max Baucus read the bills? Are you kidding me?

PAT: I just wrote the bill.

GLENN: We just hired a guy named bill. We just talk to him.

PAT: I hope, and I ‑‑ Max Baucus used to be ‑‑ he used to be pretty conservative.

STU: I don’t know if I believe you on that.

PAT: I don’t know what happened to you.

STU: You’ve said that before and I don’t believe it.

PAT: He was pretty reasonable.

GLENN: Listen to him.

PAT: He was pretty reasonable.

PAT: Bleep, bleep, bleep, that’s all, folks.

PAT: Well, Max Baucus, I think I voted for him. I think he was one of my first.

GLENN: Now it comes out.

STU: Pat Gray equals healthcare. I see.

PAT: It was 1980.

STU: Yeah, you knew, though. What did you know and when did you know it?

GLENN: Hold it. Maybe we’ve actually just stumbled onto the problem. When did you vote for him?

PAT: 1980.

GLENN: 1980.

PAT: ’80.

GLENN: He’s still there.

PAT: He’s still there. I think he got there in ’76 but I was too young to vote at the time. So I think he’s ‑‑

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

PAT: I mean, the guy has been there forever!

GLENN: That’s the problem.

PAT: Yeah, it’s time to go, Max.

GLENN: Send them home.

PAT: Home! Max Baucus phone home. Go home.

STU: Wow, you talked about the 1980 vote with a 1982 reference.

GLENN: It was very nice.

PAT: Tied it right in.

GLENN: Not a lot of old‑timey radio people can do that as well and as seamlessly as Pat has just done.

STU: (Laughing).

GLENN: That is very, very good.

PAT: That’s when radio used to mean something, the ET references.