Unlikely: Glenn Beck fan AND fan of OccupyWallstreet AND from Texas?

Glenn had quite an interesting caller on radio today. A long time fan who has listened to Glenn since 2002 called in to say he sympathized with the Occupy Wall Street protesters. And he's from Texas of all places. Why did the caller sympathize with these left wing, anti-corporate, anti-cop crowd? Get the answer and the debate that followed on radio today in the clip above!

Get the full transcript of this interesting conversation below:

GLENN: We have a caller on the phone that -- on our phone that listens to this show that says, You know what? I think the guys that occupy Wall Street, I think they make some sense. Wow. We talk to him, now.

(Music playing.)

GLENN: And he's from Texas.

PAT: It's not possible.

GLENN: Derrick? Derrick?

CALLER: Yeah, Glenn. Thanks for the big intro, man.

GLENN: You're welcome. How are you?

CALLER: I'm good. I've been listening to your show since 2002.

GLENN: Okay.

CALLER: So, yeah, I've been listening a very long time. Always enjoyed it.

GLENN: And are you -- and you are a born and bred Texan?

CALLER: I am, indeed. I'm probably more conservative than you are, believe it or not.

GLENN: And you're in -- and you're in -- you're not in --

PAT: Austin.

GLENN: Austin?

CALLER: No.

PAT: Where do you live? Where in Texas?

CALLER: I'm actually about 80 miles east of Austin, in the own of Fredericksburg.

PAT: Uh-huh.

GLENN: Okay.

CALLER: Did I say east? I went west. Sorry.

GLENN: All right. Go ahead.

CALLER: Okay. Here's my thinking on this. I think you're kind of looping them all into one basket. I've been watching some news programs at night and I see some signs they're holding up that make sense. There's one in particular that caught my eye. It said student loan equals slavery, student loan debt equals slavery and that is a --

PAT: And that made sense to you?

GLENN: Hold on just a second. Let him speak. Go ahead, Derrick.

CALLER: Debt equals slavery. Look it up in the Bible.

PAT: Okay. Well --

GLENN: Hang on. Let the man speak, Pat.

PAT: He's done speaking.

GLENN: No, he's not. Go ahead. Go ahead.

CALLER: Here is the -- I think the fundamental issue of this whole thing is that some of these banks that these guys are protesting on Wall Street are the same ones that received the TARP bailout.

GLENN: Yes.

CALLER: I think they are frustrated because they can't find work, they've been saddled with this huge amount of debt that these banks have loaned them, obviously it takes two to tango, but at the same time, these banks did receive these huge bailouts. Some of the students definitely want a bailout for themselves, but, you know, we're in a credit -- we live in a credit-driven society and I don't know when the transition took place. I stayed at a hotel with my wife in San Antonio about a year ago and in the lobby was this huge mural that was painted in the depression and the words written on that mural were: Thrift is the pathway to wealth.

Now, sometime between then and now we have gone to a credit-driven society. Now, who benefits on a credit-driven society?

GLENN: Well, I would say anybody who anyone who uses credit and makes the decision to use credit. I would say that.

CALLER: Okay. Well, can you actually get wealthy with credit?

GLENN: Well, you can, yeah. You can. Overwhelming debt, no. The scriptures would be right that overwhelming debt would make you a slave.

CALLER: Sure.

GLENN: But, no, you can -- you can borrow money to be able to start your own business.

CALLER: (Inaudible) yourself.

GLENN: Yes, in a realistic sort of way. Credit is --

CALLER: Sure.

GLENN: Credit is not evil. I'm sure. I'm not going to go down the Sharia law with you. Credit is not evil. It is the love of money or the complete disregard for responsible debt and responsibility for that debt after you've taken it.

PAT: May I? May I ask a question?

GLENN: Yeah, you can ask a question. Hang on just a second. Derrick, let Pat speak.

PAT: And yes, it is, but slavery is not voluntary. So -- so, when you volunteer for slavery, that's a whole different kind of slavery. You're not -- nobody is forcing these people to get into debt. No one -- no one, Derrick, is saddled with debt. A horse is saddled because a horse has no choice. Nobody asks the choice, Hey, could I put this on you? You get into the agreement with the bank yourself. Now, if you're out of control and you get so much debt that you can't live your life in a decent way, that is your responsibility.

GLENN: Now, let me go here on something on the bank bailout. You said these banks received TARP. No, sir.

CALLER: Sure.

GLENN: Some of them did. Many of them were forced by the government to take TARP, just as they were also -- just as they were also forced to live within the parameters that the government said that you must give loans to these people who cannot afford it. The government --

CALLER: Sure

GLENN: -- is the one that is really responsible for much of this and I'm sorry, as much as -- I mean, I just said to my daughter just last weekend, we had quite a discussion. Impersonally paying for their college educations. I have no problem paying for college educations. However, I told them, You know, gang, we are spending a lot of money on your college education. What exactly do you think you're going to get in return for that money and that college education? Now, I will tell you that my older kids are just about out of college now. So, it's too late for them, but my younger kids, I'm sorry, I am not paying for a college education that is this much money. It's insanity. We --

CALLER: Congratulations.

GLENN: Excuse me?

CALLER: I think that's a great idea. Why has it gone up so high.

GLENN: You would have to ask not the banks that, sir. You would have to ask the universities that.

STU: That's the point here.

GLENN: You notice that the ones that nobody's protesting against are the universities.

STU: Yep. Who are the least -- who is the least guilty person party here in this? The least guilty party is the bank. You have somebody who is asking for money and agreed to a contract to pay it back and is not able to do so.

PAT: Yeah.

STU: And you have a university that keeps jacking the price up over and over and over again way beyond inflation, way beyond even healthcare increase in cost and, yes, sir, the bank is on its --

CALLER: It's because of government intervention.

GLENN: Yeah. So, why are they not -- why are they, then, not at the White House and Congress? Why are they in front of the banks? If the banks --

CALLER: Well, they --

GLENN: Excuse me, sir. If the banks are forcing people and they are engaging in predatory loans where they are luring people in and saying, you've got -- oh, don't worry about it. Now, that's exactly what the government says the banks did, but I'm sorry, sir, the banks did not do that. Barnie Frank, Chris Dodd, those in Congress and those in the White House past and present, are the ones that did that, not the banks. I am not sticking up for the banks. I don't think the banks -- I think a lot of these guys -- I think a lot of these guys are criminal in their negligence on what they're doing. I think when it comes to CEO's, you can make a point, if they can't understand it, how could anyone understand it? If they don't know how to make it work, how could -- how would they -- why would they engage? It's black magic. You want to talk to me about the banks in that way? We'll do it. But don't talk to me about the banks on student loans. You took out a loan. You owe that money. You took out a loan. You got an education. They never promised you a job. It was an education. Now, what are you going to do with that education? You're now going to take that valuable education and say, I'm going to destroy everything with that education? You're out of your mind. I'm going to make others pay for my education? I'm going to destroy the system that allowed this society to have those universities? No, sir. No, sir. That's irresponsible and, quite honestly, check your Bible. I believe that is evil.

STU: Still on the Bible here. We're still in Bible country.

PAT: Yeah.

STU: Glenn, the other thing is the universities could have never charged the prices they pay if it wasn't for the government making it so they can get low interest loans and funneling our tax dollars to these universities.

GLENN: And telling the -- the universities are the ones who are teaching our children that capitalism is bad. The university -- excuse me. But where are all these economists in? All these people that put it all together, they're all the big university think tanks. The universities are the root of the problem, not all of the universities, not all of the professors, not higher education, not books, not learning, not -- not the book from Karl Marx, but the university system that has been set up. It is absolutely out of control.

You tell me how somebody's going to pay off a loan of $70,000 every year, $70,000 a year for four, six years? That's insane. And nobody questions that. No. Instead, we just give these universities more money. We just take our tax dollars and give them more. Nobody -- not once have I heard anybody in government talk about -- they'll talk about healthcare. Oh, they'll talk about healthcare. They'll talk about how things are in education. Not enough people are getting an education. Do you know why they're not? Because it's $40,000 a year. That's why. And now let me ask you, what exactly have they changed at these universities where they have to have a 500% increase in cost? Why? Cloward and Piven were teaching at universities. You want to -- you really want to collapse the system? Do you know what you do? If you -- think of this. If you're a revolutionary and you know I've got to get the youth, I have to get the youth behind it and I also have to overwhelm the system and collapse the system, what do you do? You make sure that nobody gets any kind of outside learning. You make sure that there's no apprenticeship programs. You make sure that everybody's a dummy unless you went to college and a good college and an expensive college and then you -- once you have that foundation laid, then you just keep increasing the cost, 100% this year, 100% next year, 100% the next year and the cost becomes so crippling but what you do is you keep those interest rates down, you keep everything and you spread it over so nobody really notices until it's so far out of control that no one can afford it anymore, no one can afford it and it doesn't make sense to have this higher education and then what do you do? Then you tell all of the students, don't pay your student loans, don't pay it. It's the bank's fault. That's how you sew the seeds of revolution and I contend that that's exactly what the revolutionaries, the Marxists, the hippies from the 1960's, the Bill Ayers of our universities did knowingly. Why aren't you marching against the universities? Why is it only the bank?

STU: That's a great point. I mean, you know, over and over again this happens and the market would not support the cost of these colleges without the government intervention. So, you have both of them working together.

GLENN: And when did that happen? And would you look that up? When did the United States really get into financing universities and financing student loans? When did that happen? Look it up. I have no idea. There's a question usually I don't -- it's not smart to ask a question you don't know the answer to, but I'll bet you it was in the 1970's

STU: The one thing we do know is it's been increasing and increasing and increasing, again it's the -- it's like the racist argument. It's like you can't be against giving more money to colleges because then you're against children. And, Glenn, correct me if I'm wrong because you think about this stuff several steps out farther than I do, but it's like is it -- no offense to the caller who just called in and made that point, but aren't the people who are at occupy Wall Street, the guy we talked about who identified himself as a Bolivian socialist, aren't people like that depending on guys like that caller, the mainstream person who just says, well, that's a pretty good point, we should go along with that?

GLENN: This is why I have worked tirelessly to tell you in advance, how many times, maybe you'll remember it now, how many times have I said, and it will all make sense. It will all make sense. They're going to scoop up so many people and they'll do it -- so many people, because, if -- look. This is -- we have been thought -- thank you, Edward Bernays, we have been taught a certain way to think. We have been taught to be consumers. Sir, don't talk to me about the banks. Talk to me about Edward Bernays. Talk to me about the propaganda system that the progressives built that took us from a country in their own words, a country of -- that went and focused on its needs and, instead, turned into a country that focused on its wants. That's our problem.

Here is -- here is a group of people that have planned this and they are going to scoop up all of the people who want, want a way out. Do you know why we believed -- well, everybody believed we can have everything, we can have everything. We wanted to believe that. We knew it was not true. Social Security, we know that's not true, but we accept the lies, the blatant lies. Oh, well, this doesn't really have any problem. We accept that. Why? Because if we don't, it requires us to think and behave differently and we don't want to. We like our life. We don't want to. Read Harry Truman. Read what happened to Harry Truman in 1919 when he and his partner went broke. Why? Because the progressive government of Woodrow Wilson drove our economy into a Cliff. He went broke. He would -- he refused, refused to go bankrupt. Instead, he worked it out with all of his creditors and he paid his last payment in 1939. It took him 20 years to pay off his debt. Don't talk to me about these banks. You don't owe them. You're not a slave to the bank. There is such a thing called bankruptcy, but is there anything called personal responsibility? You made the choice to go to school and take the loan. They never promised you anything but an education. Now, you want to go to them and say, I think I got a crappy ass education, I'll stand with you on that one, brother. They indoctrinated you. They're indoctrinating our children now, but don't tell me about a loan that you took out. I understand. And if you can't honestly pay it, if you are behind the 8 ball, you do everything you can, you work at every job you can to pay it off, but if you cannot make that, there's something called bankruptcy.

Now, a lot of people are now saying bankruptcy, that's your first option. It is your last option if we are a people of merit. But not anymore, because we have been taught to blame someone else. No. No.

By the way, thank you, Stu. Federal cash to students for college expanded greatly in 1965 as part of The Great Society. What a surprise. Back in a minute.

Joe Biden's administration is getting ready for something historic, but we're all being distracted. And now that Biden has hired at least 14 former or current executives from Big Tech — experts at colluding to censor unflattering news about Biden — Americans must be laser-focused on what's coming.

On January 20, the most corrupt president in American history will be inaugurated, and it looks like some of his cabinet choices were picked specifically so everything just – poof – goes away. The administration nominees appear to be all about preserving corruption, crony capitalism, and executing a Great Reset. Those same people also have one more thing in common: Ukraine.

On his Wednesday night special this week, Glenn exposes their radical agenda in their own words and gives U.S. senators the questions they must ask before confirming corrupt nominees to some of the highest offices in the country.


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I want to talk to you about something that probably didn't make a lot of sense a long time ago. In fact, I can't tell you how many program directors and how many stations threatened to cancel. Or how many calls I got from the average listener saying; What the hell are you even talking about when I talked about, the leadership of Martin Luther King.

I have done everything I can — as much as I possibly can — to teach you about Martin Luther King and nonviolent protests. And I don't think there's anybody in the media who has talked about nonviolence longer and more in-depth on commercial airwaves than me. Preachers, certainly. But commercial airwaves — I don't think anybody has.

Now I think many are beginning to understand why I tried to lay that foundation. I have told you since September 11th that I have this feeling you are going to be the group of people that will, in the end, save the republic.

I've always believed that. I don't know how it's saved. It might just be preserved in our hearts, I don't know. But I believe it now.

I never wanted us to get to this point — everything I've done is to prevent us from getting here. But everybody is so politically tied to their side that no one will let their shields down and actually listen to one another.

And we're at that desperate point now.

You are equipped to save the republic because you at least hopefully have a fundamental understanding of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. And you have at least a basic understanding of American history. More importantly, what makes this audience so phenomenal is that it is the most generous and service-minded audience of any show in America and perhaps the world.

That's part of what continues to be so frustrating about the Capitol invasion last week. Because you're being maligned.

You.

I know who you are. This is the most peaceful, generous, loving, God-fearing, authentic and patriotic audience in America. And you are frustrated and you are tired of being hit in the face and being called bigot and everything else no matter what you do.

I've been called an anti-Semite just in the last 24 hours by everybody, unjustly.

I get it.

You are now being tainted by the actions of complete imbeciles who do not represent you and me. It's not fair. But that's the hand that we're being dealt and God is in charge and He is not surprised.

We know the left's current tactics fail in the long run. Silencing. Canceling. Taking away rights.

We know the left's current tactics fail in the long run. Silencing. Canceling. Taking away rights. These are the hallmarks of regime, after regime, after Marxist regime on the ash heaps of history. Now China is still there because they've taken the so-called free market and took the capitalist system and they combined it with their Marxist utopia.

I don't know what's going to happen to the people over there. Especially seeing that our high-tech has joined them to weed out the dissidents. But it's not inevitable that we join them.

And it is going to require us to take a stand. Just not in the way that most people — especially if they're angry — think is most effective. Look at the ratings of BLM. 78 percent of Americans, at the beginning of the summer, thought that they were swell.

That number is in the low 20s now. Why? Because violence doesn't work.

I don't know if you saw the fellowship of the ring, but if you did, do you remember when Frodo said: "I don't want to do this!"

He's lamenting having to face down the evil and he's just one guy. I'll never forget it because it was right after 9/11, that the movie came out. I'll never forget Gandalf's reply. He said: "So do we all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what we're going to do with the time that is given us."

We can't decide what others are going to do. We can't control the dangerous Orwellian darkness that seems to be descending on America. All we can control is our response and strive to lead by example. If you know anyone in your sphere of influence who might be planning to attend one of these armed rallies in the coming days, beg them not to go. Do everything you can to stop them.

That's not a way to take a stand and it will not protect anything you hold dear and it will endanger the republic. It is what the other side wants.

So how do we take a stand?

The first thing I need you to do today is to help lower the temperature. It has been so hard for me not to respond to people on Twitter who have called me every name under the sun because I quoted the leading Holocaust historian last night on Tucker Carlson.

But see, that wasn't an attack on me, that was an attack on Tucker. If you can scare the guests from coming on to Tucker, you destroy Tucker. That's what they're doing.

Do not vent your anger on social media. At this point, it is probably just going to get your account shut down.

I want you to write this down and I want you to keep this in front of you.

Blessed are the peacemakers. For they will be called the children of God.

That means something today, much more than it did six months ago.

Blessed be the peacemakers.

Be a peacemaker.

And this is the hard part, you can't disconnect. Because things are moving too rapidly. You must stay plugged in.

But I want you to reach out to someone in kindness on social media. Encourage someone. Do not engage with the darkness. Be the light in the corner of your world.

You need to be a leader for what is to come.

And I know I'm asking you almost the impossible. I know you're angry and frustrated and it is gut-wrenching to feel that you're powerless to stop your nation from what you believe is sliding into the abyss.

You are not powerless. You are not voiceless.

I believe it too, with everything in me. I wish I was wrong. I hope that I am. I pray that I am. But know this: You are not powerless. You are not voiceless. You may be the only voice that anyone hears. Voices like mine will go away. I am trying to think of what I need to share with you before, God forbid, that ever happens. Because I cannot live with myself if I talked about something stupid politically and I find my voice silenced and then saying, I wish I would have said this or I wish I would have told them that.

You wield more power than you know. Not because of your voice or being able to call your congressman. You're more powerful than you know because you understand the real problem in America. The real problem in America is not political.

It is spiritual.

If you're like me when you get angry, you think that you are going to take on this challenge on your own — you are not being humble. You think you'll fix it. Everything that is happening to us is because we are an arrogant, out of control people.

We must humble ourselves. Please, you have the skill and the strength to endure the fiery darts that are going to come your way or already are. But this is a problem with our hearts.

You cannot reach someone's head without capturing their heart and no one is going to capture anyone's heart through violence.

Start in your own home and then reach out and if you're able, serve your neighbor. If you can, serve your local community. You must be a beacon of light in a very dark place. I'm going to ask you to do something you're really not going to like. And that's how I know things are from God. When I hear something or I think something and I'm like — oh crap, I don't want to do that — and you just know it it's right. You just know it's what God wants. And you're hoping that maybe you didn't hear it.

And it's so horrible. Because it's the last thing you want to do. But God is unlike many of our churches and preachers, He doesn't tell us what we want to hear. He doesn't have to pay for the church or get collection. Or be judged by how many people go.

Rise above the fray, with service and love, with malice toward none and charity toward all.

He'll say the same thing and he'll lose whole flocks. And they'll eventually start to go — oh wait, where is the Shepherd again?

But I have to tell you now some things that I want you to do. And they're not new. But I need you to hear me. I am asking you if you want to stand for the republic, I need you first to pray.

Pray like you've never prayed before. Pray for humility. Pray for guidance. Pray for peace. Pray for those people who you think you hate. Because you don't. Because hatred does not come from any good place.

Then I want you go out and serve someone in any way possible. On inauguration day especially, get your family and your children involved. Volunteer somewhere, take someone a meal. Do something to lift the spirits of hospital workers or your local police department.

Help a stranger mow a lawn, fix someone's car, pick up trash on the side of the highway. Do what you can do. But the most important thing is to do it with a sincere heart. And if someone asks you, why are you doing this? Just say, because I love my country.

Rise above the fray with service and love, with malice toward none and charity toward all.

Watch how the conversation went on radio HERE:

A pre-Inauguration Day plea: You wield MUCH more power than you know youtu.be


Early Monday morning, Amazon Web Services removed social networking platform Parler from its cloud servers. This comes just after Apple and Google removed the Parler app from their app stores over the weekend.

"You can't find them on the internet anymore. They're gone," Glenn Beck said on his radio program Monday.

"This is something I warned you of four years ago ... because a profound technological change is coming," he continued. "I told you, at the time, high tech will need the government, and the government will need high tech. And they will work together to preserve their power and their position. This is what's happening, today."

Glenn said he believes the "far left" has been talking about breaking up companies like Parler for years, and that the Capitol riots provided the opportunity they needed.

"This is not the end of this. This is where the Left is starting," he warned. "Those who persist in standing for freedom of speech, freedom of expression, freedom to assemble, freedom to keep and bear arms, those people will be targeted for deletion. You will be hounded, boycotted, fired, ostracized, and de-platformed. And the louder and the more significant and effective your voice is, the bigger the target is on your back.

"But, let me say this: I will never stop standing for freedom of speech, freedom of expression, freedom to assemble, freedom to keep and bear arms, and all of the rest of the Bill of Rights. That is the American thing to do."

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Glenn Beck: This is the REAL Raphael Warnock and our new 'national religion'

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Multiple news outlets have called one of Georgia's Senate runoff elections for the Rev. Raphael Warnock, the Democrat who defeated Republican incumbent Sen. Kelly Loeffler.

So, on the radio show Wednesday, Glenn Beck looked into what this "radical preacher" has been saying in the past — and what he'll likely bring to the U.S. Senate in the future.

"Warnock is in one of the most influential and powerful stages of the country. And I use the word 'stage' intentionally," Glenn said. "It's the pulpit. He's the guy who says, if you voted for Donald Trump, well, you're a sinner."

Glenn introduced a video clip in which Warnock asserts:

If it is true that a man who has dominated the news and poisoned the discussion for months needs to repent, then it is doubly true that a nation that can produce such a man and make his vitriol go viral, needs to repent. I know, no matter what happens next month, more than a third of the nation that would go along with this, has reason to be afraid. America needs to repent for its worship of whiteness!

"So, (according to Warnock) you should be afraid," Glenn said. "Oh, and whiteness is evil. And, somehow or another, America has been worshiping whiteness ... see, critical race theory is now our new national religion."

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