It's looking more and more like either Newt Gingrich or Mitt Romney will end up being the GOP Presidential nominee. Both aren't exactly the ideal conservative, but since we're apparently stuck with them - which one is worse? Glenn, Pat & Stu run down the positives and negatives of each...It isn't pretty.
Glenn: "If you do amnesty and you still ‑‑ people are still going to come over and so then you're going to repeat what we did in the 1980s."
Pat: "Everybody keeps bringing up what Reagan did. Reagan screwed up. That was a mistake to grant amnesty to three million people. He did it under certain conditions. He thought that they were all going to ‑‑ all of them were going to get, you know, cards. They didn't. And he thought that we'd close the border or seal it off better. We didn't."
Stu: "An American citizen that breaks a law every year for 25 years likely winds up in prison. There's no opportunity for an American citizen's family to go with them to prison. With an illegal immigrant, we're saying that you're not allowed to be here anymore, at least your family's allowed to go with you where you're going."
Stu: "Remember politically, yeah, the DREAM Act is good politics. You can win votes by supporting giving away free things and free passes to large groups of people. Yes, we all know you can win votes that way. That's not what we're looking for, is it?"
Stu: "I think they have eliminated everyone else in their mind outside of Romney, and a lot of them don't want Romney. But it's like, if you don't want Romney, why? Because he supported the individual mandate for healthcare? So did Newt this year."
Stu: "Mitt actually enacted the healthcare and Newt didn't. He just supported it."
Glenn: "But let's remember that Mitt is saying things like, 'That was only for Massachusetts. That was only for Massachusetts.'"
Stu: "Newt Gingrich not only supported (universal healthcare) on a national level, he supported it in 1993 and 2011. He's got a 20‑year record of support on that."
Glenn: "I'm not going to sit here and defend Mitt Romney and RomneyCare because RomneyCare is a nightmare. He doesn't ‑‑ I don't think he sees it as a nightmare. He sees it as something the state wanted to do. He tried to do his best. I think that's a sellout of your values, quite honestly, on small government. You don't do it even if the rest of the, rest of the state wants you to do it, you don't do it. Sorry, I'm not going to do it. You stand on principles. So I'm not going to defend him on this. However there is a difference between ‑‑ I've never, ever had a problem with Massachusetts wanting to do their own state‑run healthcare. That's the states' rights to do. If that's what they want to do, they have a right to do that."
Stu: "Newt Gingrich has been worse on global warming than Mitt Romney." "Mitt said a lot of stupid things about it but he wasn't ever on a couch with Nancy Pelosi advocating what she wants. I mean, there's a ‑‑ at the very least they're equal on these issues."
Later in the show, a listener called in to say he was much more concerned about Mitt Romney than he was Newt Gingrich. Watch the conversation below: