Today on radio, Pat and Stu discussed the Obamacare lawsuit that could possibly end Obamacare. Stu explained the lawsuit on radio, saying, "So in the law they wrote you can only get subsidises--in other words, you can only get free cash from the government to pay for your healthcare if your state set up the Obamacare website. If you go through the federal website, then you're not gonna get any free money from the government. That's the way they did it because they wanted the states to do all the work, we didn't want to have to deal with it, they wanted the states to do all the work."
Despite the law in place, 34 states did not follow the law, and instead went through the federal exchanges. Now, faced with the possibility of not getting free money, that would removed all the people from those 34 states off of Obamacare. But, wait, there's a Republican senator coming to the rescue of Obamacare?!
Apparently, that is the case! Three Republican senators, Orrin Hatch, Lamar Alexander, and John Barrasso wrote in a Washington Post op-ed on Sunday that there is plan to allow the subsidies to continue for a transitional amount of time until states can come up with their own healthcare reform plan. So essentially, as Stu said, "a Republican is riding to the rescue of Obamacare and saying we'll give you as much money as we can over a transitional period, and then the ending is important. While states come up with their own health refrom plans. So now you get Obamacare light, Obamacare 2.0, Obamacare local."
Watch more of this insanity below:
Rough Transcript Below:
Pat: Now, something else that's going on today, there's--there's an Obamacare lawsuit that is happening that's pretty important, and it could, I mean, conceivably kind of spell the end to Obamacare, right?
Stu: Yeah, kinda. It's King vs. Burwell, we've gone over this before. If you don't remember, it's the one about the subsidises. So in the law they wrote you can only get subsidises--in other words, you can only get free cash from the government to pay for your healthcare if your state set up the Obamacare website. If you go through the federal website, then you're not gonna get any free money from the government. That's the way they did it because they wanted the states to do all the work, we didn't want to have to deal with it, they wanted the states to do all the work.
Pat: This is one of the things what's his name.
Stu: I'm already forgetting his name.
Pat: Me too.
Stu: The professor who has now been ostracized from the entire universe.
Pat: One of the architects. How quickly we've forgotten his name.
Stu: I know. Catassembly. Jeffy, you figure that out, too. This is sad. when we go to Jeffy to figure stuff out. Oh, Gruber.
Pat: Yes, Gruber.
Stu: So this is one of the things Gruber said as well. And so the lawsuit says look, you can't just give the free money to the people who enter the federal exchanges, which is 34 out of the 50 states did it that way. You can't do it because the law actually specifically says it only goes to the states. And so that's what the lawsuit is. If the lawsuit were to go through and go the way it should go, which is laws are written for a reason in a specific way, and you have to follow them, you don't get to just make it up afterwards, if that goes the correct way, then 34 states would suddenly find themselves without free money from the government for healthcare. And it would be a destructive factor, as most people in the United States would all then be off of this.
Pat: It could fall apart, conceivably.
Stu: It could fall apart. That is, you know--and that's why obviously conservatives are rooting for this because you say down the line, this would destroy a really bad program for America. However, there's always a Republican to step in to take that threat away. We saw this with--with the immigration issue, with the funding, where Mitch McConnell came in said, well, split it up and be fine, again taking all the pressure off of the Democrats even though they were the ones blocking the funding. Now we have a new one. First of all, the HHS secretary saying she has no fix for this, so she can'd do anything to help anyone, she's trying to scare people essentially into believing that if this lawsuit goes through it's really bad for the country, but three Republican Senators, Orrin Hatch, Lamar Alexander, and John Barrasso wrote in a Washington Post op-ed Sunday said there is a growing consensus to allow subsidies to continue on a transitional basis while Congress works to roll back Obamacare and let states come up with their own healthcare reform plan.
Pat: I'm sorry. Did you mention Utah's elder states man Orrin Hatch?
Stu: I did. That's the guy, by the way, guy who's heading this up, giving quotes about it all the time. So when the Obamacare thing proves to be in the funding proves to be against the law, essentially, he wants to step in to provide--
Pat: He's riding to the rescue.
Stu: --a Republican is riding to the rescue of Obamacare and saying we'll give you as much money as we can over a transitional period, and then the ending is important. While states come up with their own health refrom plans. So now you get Obamacare light, Obamacare 2.0, Obamacare local.
Pat: Rather than getting rid of the bill.
Stu: Right. Which is what you would theoretically want if you're a Republican senator, especially one as conservative as Orrin Hatch.
Pat: oh yes. Oh, yes.
Stu: Keep in mind this is the same guy who wrote back in 2010, here's what Orrin Hatch wrote about exactly what we're talking about then: A third constitutional defectint in this Obamacare legislation is its command that state establish such things as benefit exchanges which will require state legislation and regulations. This is not a condition for receiving federal funds which would still leave some kind of choice to the states. No, this legislations requires states to establish these exchages or says that the secretary of Health and Human Services will step in and do it for them. It renders states little more than subdivisions of the federal government. He was clearly dead set against it back in 2010. Now he's all for it, and he's trying to ride to the rescure and fix it, and now he's saying because, you know, reporters because he's Republican brough up to him, by the way, you were saying something completely different back in 2010. Yeah, well that's not what I meant.
Pat: That's not what he meant.
Stu: Again, the same these talking about the Obama administration, what ever needs to be said on a given day to get through that day yes, that's all that matters in Washington with way too many Republicans and essentially every Democrat.
Pat: I was talking about a different kind of fora, back in 2010, not this fora. We've done at lease 75 foras on this, Stu.