Bishop Jim Lowe, the black pastor Glenn teamed up with in Birmingham for Restoring Unity, went on CNN yesterday and talked about how to overcome divisiveness.
When the reporter seemed to question how he could be promoting unity with Beck, who she said "has made a career of being a divisive figure," his response was just awesome.
Watch Glenn's reaction here.
Watch the full interview via CNN.
Below is a rush transcript of this segment, it might contain errors.
PAT: The guy, I was blown away by him in Birmingham. I continue to be blown away by him every time I see him. He's just really good.
GLENN: I will tell you, when he was on radio, we were like, because I don't think he's comfortable being on radio and on the phone. Every time I see him and in person, this guy is a rock star.
PAT: Jeez, live, I'm not sure there's anybody better live. He's just really good.
GLENN: I know.
PAT: Because, first of all, he's really spiritual. He's really intense. And then he'll be really, really funny. And then right back. And back and forth like that. And he does it seamlessly. He's really great.
GLENN: And he's absolutely unafraid, as we saw yesterday on CNN.
VOICE: Joined forces with Glenn Beck to host that All Lives Matter Rally.
BISHOP LOWE: Yes.
VOICE: But, of course, you also know that Beck has made a career of being a divisive figure.
GLENN: She's got me.
PAT: She's got you. She's got him. It's over.
GLENN: It's over.
VOICE: So when you're trying to create a sense of unity, why team up with somebody like him?
PAT: Right. Good point.
BISHOP LOWE: Because if we can bridge unity between me and a Glenn Beck, don't you think other people can find common points of unity?
PAT: Wait. Oh, she's against the ropes. Boom. That has to hurt.
GLENN: Boom. Great answer.
PAT: Great point.
BISHOP LOWE: The common point of unity that every human being has a God-given right to life -- Glenn Beck believes that. I believe that. That is the Word of God. People of God have to come together.
Look, there were over 30,000 people in Birmingham who came together to say that life is important. As long as people in the media continue to separate and bring up the things of division, we cannot bring this nation together. Once again, we need leaders to stand up. Leaders to say that all lives are important.
VOICE: Glenn Beck is the media, as you just mentioned though. I mean, if media is dividing. Again --
STU: Wow. She --
GLENN: She's got me again.
PAT: Counters with the left hook.
GLENN: She's like, but Glenn Beck is the media.
STU: Guess what, here is Glenn's resume. What are you going to do with this?
GLENN: He was on CNN, you know.
STU: Yeah, we hired him.
BISHOP LOWE: Okay. You tell me how it's divisive to say that life is important. How is that divisive?
PAT: Thank you.
VOICE: I agree with you. I don't think it's divisive to say that life is important.
PAT: Do you think it's important to say important properly? Apparently you don't think that's important.
PAT: Important. I do think that's important.
STU: Pat hates that one.
GLENN: Pat hates that.
PAT: It's important. I can't take that! She must be from Connecticut.
GLENN: We've known each other since 1989, and that has been something that just grinds him.
PAT: I do think that's important. I just don't think it's important to say the word important right.
STU: At least there was a T on the end. There's usually not. It's important.
GLENN: Let me just say, this might be divisive.
STU: So, yeah, that's a very good point. This is not --
PAT: I don't think it's important not to be divisive while we're talking about this divisive --
BISHOP LOWE: Okay. Then that's what Glenn Beck is saying. And that's what we're trying to do. For instance, on the death of the policeman that happened in Houston, Glenn Beck is suggesting a national call for prayer for people to come to pray. How can I differ with someone who wants to encourage prayer for this nation?
GLENN: Love it.
BISHOP LOWE: How can I find that divisive? I find that unifying because I believe there are more people who believe in God that are in this nation than there are those who do not believe in him. I believe that that's what can bring us together. And unless God brings the people together, then we are going to -- we're just chasing after the wind.
GLENN: I don't think that's the way it ended.
PAT: It should have ended like that because he just destroyed her.