GLENN: Look. I encourage everyone else to talk about the Russian thing. I encourage CNN, continue to yap about the Russian thing.
PAT: Yes. Yes.
GLENN: Go for it. We're going to talk about health care and what can really be done. What needs to be done is anything that will reduce the cost of the average person's health care.
PAT: And what we said last week I think applies even more now: Let them focus on Russia all they want.
GLENN: All they want.
PAT: That makes this the best time to repeal health care because they're not paying attention. Just repeal it now.
GLENN: And so here's what happened last night, in case you didn't know. Mike Lee and the senator from --
STU: Jerry Moran, Kansas.
GLENN: -- Kansas, came out last night and said they're not going to vote for the reform. And, quite honestly, in my opinion, they shouldn't have. Why?
It raised -- it brought back taxes that had already been taken out. The -- with -- are you -- the Democrats allowed taxes to be taken out. And this bill actually put two taxes back in.
Then it also gave, I think 85, or $45 billion, just for opioids. And it just -- I mean, it was just to help with opioids. Are we selling them and helping people get them? What was the plan? It was very non-descript to try to get people off of opioids.
PAT: I think it was a pool of money just to dole out senators who were having a problem with that in their states.
GLENN: Just to dole out. Correct. And we are having a problem with opioids. And we need to deal with that. But not just some giveaway.
There were a couple of things in there that were good. One of them was the Cruz/Lee bill and would make it somewhat tolerable, if they would have left in what Cruz and Lee put in which was, you got to let the insurance companies free to offer things that are not covered in Obamacare. That doesn't have the title one restrictions that says, you know, every man has to pay for maternity insurance. He's not going to -- he's not going to have a baby. So he doesn't need that.
And to take the things out that you don't need, depending on your sex and your age. Also, to let them compete, insurance companies. They took that out.
Well, now there's nothing but raising of taxes. There's no relief for anybody who is actually suffering with a very high deductible now. And also, a high monthly payment.
Where is the relief there? That's what we should be shooting for. Okay. So it fell apart last night at about 8 o'clock. 11 o'clock, the president came out and said, "Let's repeal Obamacare. Just go for a straight repeal." Now, here's what's great: We've already passed that how many times? I think in some cases up to 50 times this is passed.
They have passed it in the House and the Senate over and over again. They have come up with this bill. They have campaigned on that bill. We are going to repeal Obamacare.
To prove that to you, they have continually passed it when they didn't have the White House. Because the White House was going to veto it under Barack Obama. And they all knew that.
So then what? So then they went out on the road, and all of these Republicans -- all of them, went out and said, "We are going to -- we've already done a repeal bill. Now, if we can just get the presidency -- if we can keep the House and the Senate and the presidency, we're going to be able to push that bill through. We're going to go ahead, we can repeal Obamacare." And as Mike Lee said earlier today, that's what united the Republican Party.
So there are 49 senators that have already voted on this repeal bill. The one that has gone through, up to 50 times. They have -- 49 senators have already voted on it. There's two new senators that have not voted on it. But they both ran -- is that right?
STU: Yeah. Here. Let me walk you through real quick.
STU: Fifty-four senators in 2015 that voted on this exact bill, that they're talking about proposing.
GLENN: Okay. Fifty-four.
STU: Two Republicans voted no. That was Kirk, who is now gone and replaced by a Democrat. So that's going to stay a no. And Collins, who has already announced her opposition. That gets you to 52 possibles. Okay?
STU: Of the 52 possibles, there are three senators --
GLENN: That have already voted. Fifty-two possible that have already voted.
STU: Yes. So three of them are different senators than they were in 2015.
STU: Those three are Coats, who left in Indiana, and is now replaced by Todd Young.
GLENN: Which is a Republican?
STU: A Republican.
GLENN: And voted on repealing Obamacare.
STU: Well, he's a new senator.
PAT: He hasn't voted yet because he's new.
GLENN: So, yes. So, yes, he will.
STU: So Coats is gone, but we don't have any vote from Young yet.
GLENN: Yeah, but we know that if you're running for -- anybody in Indiana, just let us know, I'm pretty sure anybody who is running --
PAT: Would have said they're for repeal.
GLENN: Would have said they're for repealing Obamacare.
STU: Then you have Vitter, who is gone in Louisiana, replaced by Kennedy. And then you have Sessions who is, of course, in Alabama, has been replaced by Strange. Senator Strange.
GLENN: Go ahead.
STU: So if you have all three of the new people to vote no, you would be down to 49. Okay. Now, many of them I'm sure ran on repealing on it, so you would assume they would vote yes. But they're not on record disagreeing with their own vote with a no.
STU: Now, we already have Senator Capito from West Virginia, who has come out and said she will reverse her vote from 2015.
GLENN: Okay. Okay. Now, I want you to hear: These guys are all on the record as voting to repeal.
STU: This bill.
GLENN: Yeah. This bill. When they said -- when they voted yes to repeal this bill, they knew they had a president that was going to veto. So there was no consequence of voting.
STU: They knew it wouldn't get repealed.
GLENN: Correct. So what they did is they voted time and time again to repeal it and then go home to you and say, "You need me in Congress. You need me in the Senate. I need your support. I need your money. The G.O.P. needs your money. We need your vote because I got to go in there. And I've already voted. And if you elect me, I'm going to vote again. We're going to repeal it."
GLENN: So these are the people that were lying to you then, took your money, took your time, and took your vote, and lied to you.
And hear me clearly, people of West Virginia, is where Capito is from, this is a state in which Donald Trump won 68-26. Donald Trump is asking for this repeal to happen.
STU: And your senator right now --
PAT: Is saying no.
STU: -- is saying no. Even though she already voted for the same bill when she knew it wasn't going to pass.
PAT: She's opposing her president. Wow.
GLENN: So we're not the ones -- we're not the ones that always say, you got to support the president whatever. But, Trump supporters, understand that the people who are now obstructing this have already voted for it. If you're in West Virginia, she already voted for it. Then she ran again on repeal. Now, you voted by 68 percent for Donald Trump. And now she's opposing the president who is asking her to do that which she has already done.
PAT: Under the lame pretense that, "Oh, I didn't come here to hurt people."
STU: Yeah, that was her statement.
PAT: Shut up. Shut up.
GLENN: Well, first of all --
PAT: You're hurting people by not voting for repeal.
GLENN: Americans, ask yourself this question. Are there more people hurting and struggling today than there were six years ago, when this passed.
PAT: The answer is yes.
GLENN: The answer is yes. Companies are not hiring as many people. So people have lost their jobs. They have lost their doctors. They have lost their health care. You are paying how much more for your premium, and how high is your deductible?
We went from some people not covered, but still being able -- remember, the argument was not that people were dying. The argument was, the hospitals are overcrowded because people are just using the hospital emergency room as their --
GLENN: -- insurance and as their primary doctor. So nobody was dying. Nobody was dying. Who is hurting more now?
You are hurting far more. And it's not just you. It's people across all spectrums.
PAT: And we've been told by several listeners that their premiums are 15, $1,600 a month. That's a house payment for some people. People can't -- you can't afford that. You can't afford another 1,500-dollar payment just to insure your family.
GLENN: And then -- what's really bad.
PAT: And then high deductibles on top of it.
GLENN: Yeah, you have a $6500 deductible.
PAT: And they're not paying for anything.
GLENN: Right. I'm paying $1,500 a month.
PAT: And my deductible is 6500. Wow.
GLENN: 6500. I won't spend that. I won't spend that much money.
GLENN: So all you have for $1,500 is catastrophic insurance.
GLENN: That's ridiculous. That is absolutely unacceptable in America. It's unacceptable. And why is this happening? Because the government and the G.O.P. and the DNC don't want to let go of their power. What's this -- what's this woman's name? West Virginia?
STU: Shelley Moore Capito.
GLENN: Shelley Moore Capito. She already told you what you wanted to hear. But she asked you to believe her. She asked you for money, for time, and for votes. And now when you are hurting, she will not put us back to where we were and set it right. And then say, okay. Let's look at some real ways to actually fix things.
Who else is on this list?
STU: So if you take it what we have now -- there was 52.
PAT: Just looking for her Washington office number, which seems like it's (202)224-6472.
GLENN: Hmm. Okay. Thank you for that.
STU: What was that again? I didn't write it down.
PAT: It seems like it's (202)224-6472.
GLENN: Okay. Thank you. I'll right write that one down.
PAT: Yeah, write down (202)224-6472. Write that down.
GLENN: That's the senator from West Virginia. Got it.
STU: Now, she of course has already stated she's out on this. So she's out.
PAT: Tell her she should be back in. Because she needs to do the will of the people of West Virginia, not her own.
GLENN: And she's already voted for it once.
PAT: Get back in.
GLENN: Why -- you were for hurting people before?
STU: In fact, one of these people -- I can't remember which senator it was, of the names who I'm going to give you here in a second, said a lot has changed since 2015. A lot has changed --
STU: You mean -- well, the president is there to sign it now. And he actually wants this done. That's changed. What else has changed?
GLENN: That's changed. You know what else has changed?
PAT: Premiums through the roof, that's changed.
GLENN: Deductibles out of this world. That's what's changed.
STU: So if -- you have 52 to start. Then you go down to 51, losing Capito. So far, there's been statements from Portman in Ohio --
GLENN: Not a surprise.
PAT: They're not going to vote for it?
STU: -- and Kennedy in Louisiana that, well, we don't know. So I would say Portman looks like he's a no. But he's not stated it.
GLENN: Yeah, but Portman is Portman.
STU: But that would bring to you 50.
GLENN: What's his number, Pat? Portman.
PAT: Senator Rob Portman it would seem as though --
GLENN: It would seem, or it is?
PAT: -- his number is (202)224-3353.
GLENN: That number again?
GLENN: I wonder if Senator Portman has an operator standing by for your call, if you would call...
GLENN: Yeah. Okay. Good. Thank you.
STU: So then -- the other thing that throws a wrinkle into this -- because that would bring you down to 50 exactly, if they tried to hold this vote. Currently, Senator John McCain --
PAT: Well, but if you call (202)224-3353 and ask for senator -- or, Rob Portman, or one of his representatives and make your feelings known, I'm sure he's going to listen to the will of the people. I'm sure.
STU: Because, again, he's already voted for this in the past. This is not asking him --
PAT: These are over and over again.
GLENN: We're not asking him to act in a way that is inconsistent with what he has done before. We're asking him just to do it now that it counts. That's it.
STU: That's it.
GLENN: That's it.
STU: Act as if he meant it.
GLENN: That's like, I'm in the army, and I'm going, and I'm, you know, going and I'm going through my training exercise. I'm learning how to shoot. Then you get down on the battlefield. And you're like, okay. Well, I'm not shooting. I mean, there's actual people on the other end.
PAT: Conditions have changed.
GLENN: Conditions have changed. I'm in a war zone.
What the hell do you think you were doing, dude?
PAT: But how would you tell him your feelings if he wasn't in the room? Oh, that's right. You could call (202)224-3353.