The Forgotten Man: Glenn Takes Care of Tax Bill for Caller Who Tugged at the Heart Strings

Alan Hoyt is a Trump voter whose recent call to a Maryland radio station summed up the struggle that many Americans face: working hard with little reward and no hope of anything changing. He shared his story on radio Thursday, asking for the people in the media who talk about Trump voters to put themselves in his shoes.

“I consider myself one of the forgotten men and women,” Hoyt said in the moving phone call, which Glenn played on radio last week. “We need tax cuts. … We need jobs.”

Glenn asked Hoyt, who has been struggling to find work and make ends meet for basic needs like medicine and food, what he wants to say to the media.

“Just come to work with me and see what we’re dealing with out here,” Hoyt said. “One day working with me, you’ll realize how hard things are.”

Hoyt described how he wakes up at 4 a.m. each day to work in roofing and wondered why so much of what he earns is taken away by the complicated, burdensome tax system. He explained what happened when his 17-year-old son tried to file for himself, a decision that unintentionally resulted in a $2,600 fine from the IRS.

“Why can’t it be a simple, one little form? And why do they have to take so much?” Hoyt asked.

Glenn offered to pay the $2,600 dollar fined, asking Hoyt to stay on the line to get his contact information. He also issued a warning.

"You're totally screwed because next year, you'll have to claim the $2,600. So . . . you know, save your money if you can, because they're going to charge you for it next year."

GLENN: Last week, a guy calls into WMAL and says this.

VOICE: Alan, in southern Maryland, you're on WMAL. Go, Al.

ALAN: I'm sick of the Donald Trump stuff. All the Trump stuff. I consider myself one of the forgotten men and women. I'm worried about job creation. I'm worried about tax cuts. I need more money. I'm living paycheck to paycheck. They just cut off my cable bill. I'm rubbing two nickels together. My girl can't find me a job to help me. We're out here struggling. And these people don't get it. I mean, they really don't get it. I don't have money. I mean, I'm cutting back on my medicine. My groceries. She can't find a job.

VOICE: Do you feel like the president -- Alan, do you feel like the president is keeping his head down and doing what he promised to do to try to help you and other Americans like you?

ALAN: If they let him do it and give him a chance. They're fighting him every step of the way. We need help out here. We've been struggling for years under Obama. And he -- he had the right message. That's why we voted him in, because of that. And we need tax cuts. I need a couple extra dollars in my paycheck every week. We need jobs. We need Trump --

VOICE: Thanks, Allen.

ALAN: And these liberals depress all this. They need to get off that and think about us that's out here putting our boots on every day, getting up at 4 o'clock in the morning, going to work and trying to provide for our families. And it's hard. Love you, Larry.

GLENN: An amazing phone call. I just want to highlight some of the words: I'm one of the forgotten men. I'm worried. I'm worried about jobs. I'm worried about tax cuts. I'm living paycheck to paycheck. I'm rubbing two nickels together. We're struggling, and these people don't get it. We need help out here. We're struggling. We need jobs.

I wish the press would think about us. Those who are putting our boots on and getting up at 4 o'clock in the morning, it's hard.

So who was it that voted for Donald Trump, and who was it that is supporting Donald Trump now? The press just can't figure it out. It's people like, who I don't think it really is about Donald Trump. I'm anxious to hear from Allen. I think it's about the pain that people are going through.

And somebody has -- had better start listening to them and helping them. Alan. Alan Hoyt joins us now. Hi, Alan. How are you, sir?

ALAN: Hey, Mr. Beck. How are you today, sir?

GLENN: I'm good. I'm good.

Tell me about the day you called into WMAL and what you were feeling.

ALAN: Well, I just feel like I'm left out. I feel like -- I don't know. I feel like there's a whole lot of us out here. We're doing our best. We're doing what we're supposed to do. But everything is sitting around other concerns. And we're just trying to make a living. And we're just trying to do the right thing, and we just need some extra money in our paycheck. I mean, we're back to eating noodles and noodles. Where I live at, it's like two hours to get to work for a six-hour day and then two hours to go home. And my girl, finally, she just has a job interview, hour and a half up the road for two days a week. That's the best she can find. And I need her help. And she wants to help me. But they just don't understand that we're the ones out here paying the taxes. And we're the ones -- they're about everything, but the right thing: And that's just, how do you help your fellow man? And how do we get by if we're struggling?

GLENN: So, Alan, tell me a little about yourself. Tell me who you are, what -- you know, what you do for a living. Did you have good times? Were there good times in your past with your job? Tell me a little about yourself.

ALAN: Well, right now, I just took a break. I'm on a 120-degree roof, fixing an air conditioner for a customer because they're complaining it's hot, hot, hot. I don't know what these people would have done back in the 1800s when they didn't have no air conditioner or electricity or heater.

But I'm on the roof right now. Just took a break. I'm sitting in the back of my truck. The sun is beating down on me. I'm burning up. But I got to do what I got to do. I mean, I make pretty decent money, but I just can't get enough hours in, unless I do overtime. I had requested work, my day off, just to try to make extra money.

I'm just an everyday American. I'm just out here doing -- I mean, I hate kind of what I do. I've been doing it for 20 years. I mean, I'm pretty good at what I do. But I really have to suffer sometimes. Sometimes I'm on the roof for eight hours, and I'm in the blistering sun. You know, I'm -- it's taking a toll on me. And I don't know how much longer I can do this and throw a 32-foot ladder up against a building and climb up there and stay outside all day fixing comfort for everybody else, when I'm out here hurting.

GLENN: So --

ALAN: And I keep my thermostat at my house to 78 degrees, just to keep back the bill, you know what I mean? We keep the house barely decently -- I don't know, Mr. Beck. I'm just out here trying to maintain. And I just don't have the funds. I don't have -- we don't go out to restaurants anymore. We don't do anything. We just like -- pretty much, we're cabin fevered in. I go to work. Come home. Stay in. And she's trying to find a job. She's on the internet every day, just applying for this and applying for that. And hopefully this two-day-a-week job will pan out for her, because I could use the extra little bit of money every week. But --

GLENN: So when did -- when did America change for you? When did things get tough for you? Under Obama? Under Bush? When did things change?

ALAN: Well, I really think it was under the Obama administration with the taxes. I see my -- I see more money coming out of my paycheck every week. I get paid biweekly. And it's like 400-something dollars that I have to pay in taxes. That's state, federal, my Social Security, all that. It's like 400. If I can just keep -- I'm stretching out my credit cards now. And I'm stealing from Peter to pay Paul. I've got to budget money around and flip things around, to where I'm keeping everybody happy without, you know, having them come after me, repossess my vehicles, or foreclose on my house. It's -- I don't know, Mr. Beck.

GLENN: Have you -- have you -- just trying to get a sense of who you are. Have you always video for Republicans? What's your voting history? Have you always been a conservative?

ALAN: Well, I grew up in Baltimore city. And it was all Democrats in there. And back in the day, you had to know somebody to get a job. A lot of the guys -- the fathers of my friend were in the union. Representatives. So if you wanted a decent job, you had to pretty much -- I remember Mr. Joe -- you would walk in his house at Christmas time, and all the Christmas cards were all the way around his whole living room, stretched on the wall from all the people that sent them Christmas cards. And I think most of the Christmas cards he got was just people kind of like kissing his butt because he was the union representative for the Steamfitters. And I was like amazed to see all the Christmas cards hanging on his wall. But it was all people that was just looking for favors.

I got into the union. It wasn't what I wanted to be part of. Because it was like a little cult. And I didn't like the way, you know, it was -- the union -- it wasn't for me. So I'm a non-union worker now. They call me a scav. You know, I'm kind of like -- you know, I make as much as a union person. But when I was in a union, they just took my money every month, and I really didn't get anything out of it.

But, yeah, I grew up in Baltimore City. And it was like pay-to-play type thing to get a decent job. And now Baltimore City went to hell in a handbasket. And when I grew up down there, it was a beautiful thing. Everybody got out every weekend and scrubbed their steps and swept the sidewalks. My job was to scrub out the trash cans out in the backyard and squirt down the alley.

But now you go up to Baltimore, it's trash six inches deep on the sidewalks. It's -- it's -- but my pain actually started when Obama got elected. I mean, I had nothing against the man. My son is a biracial child. I raised him from my wife I lost a couple years back to cancer. You know, it was her child from another relationship. But I -- it really like all started on the Obama administration, when he started changing things, and taxes seemed to skyrocket.

GLENN: So how has the media failed you?

ALAN: Well, the media -- okay. I kind of -- oh, I miss you so much on Fox News. I used to watch you every night. I couldn't wait to get home and tune in with you, especially with the big chalkboard and all the pictures of this guy linked to that guy. You really taught me a lot.

GLENN: Right.

ALAN: And I think at that point, I really started to come around. I was listening to CNN. And then a friend of mine told me Fox is fair and balanced. So I changed my political perspective on things, just by being educated by people like you. But I kind of -- I listened to like MSNBC and CNN. Just to see their slant. The topic. And Rachel Maddow. She's, wow, she's something else. But I listened to them. And then I turned to the truth. And I listened for voices like you out there so I could really know the truth. And I could make a judgment. Is it affecting me the way it is? Or is it what they're describing, which I know is a false narrative.

We put Trump into office because we believed what he was saying. He promised to help us. That's all we wanted, was some help. And I got -- I got callouses on my hands. And real men had callouses.

We're out here. It's just everyday people that go to work. And we work hard. But we don't really have nothing to show for it. We just to have live paycheck to paycheck because we're not bringing enough money in.

I mean, I make decent -- fairly decent money. But it's not enough for my bills. I can't -- I can't stay on top of everything. And it drives me to the point sometimes -- I'm suicidal sometimes, just thinking about all the crap that's going on in my life. And it's not because of me not willing to work. I just wish there was more work.

GLENN: How is -- how do you feel about Donald Trump? Is he doing -- is he doing everything he can?

ALAN: I think he's really putting that best foot -- best foot forward. He's just being fought every step of the way. They're just blocking every thing he's trying to accomplish. Even all successes are not being reported. I understand the border crossings are down from him, just from words and not actions.


ALAN: And he's really wanting to do what he promised, but they're just blocking him. The whole smear with the Democrats and the media is just to paint him with a broad brush, that he is some kind of demon, some kind of guy that's not -- you know, he wasn't worth getting elected for. And he's not going to do anything for us. And all they do is report the bad, negative stuff. And they don't really highlight any of the good stuff.

GLENN: So what could the media -- what does the media need to learn, Alan? What do they -- they always question, you know, who is supporting Donald Trump? And how come we're not trusted? What would you say to them?

ALAN: I would say, come to work with me one day. Get up at 4 o'clock. Put your boots on. Get in my truck and go with me every day when I go to work. Be on the 120-degree roof, giving people their comfort back. Share my lunch with me. Some baloney sandwich because I can't afford chips. Just come to work with me and see what we're dealing with out here.

And just let -- one day working with me, you'll realize that -- how hard things are. And then they're speaking all this other stuff that's really not important to people like us. We want tax cuts. I mean, if I could get an extra $100 in my paycheck every week, I would love that. That would help me so much to get by, a little bit further.

But all they want to do is talk about Donald Trump Jr. Donald Trump. Russia. This and that. And we're not worried about that. We're worried about how we're going to survive one day at a time and how do we put food on our tables. How do we afford to go out to dinner, and how do we afford to have a good weekend and be able to go to the ocean, or -- we can't afford none of that because every day, our money that we earn is dedicated to something else. And there's nothing left over, by the time you pay all your bills.

GLENN: What's the most important thing to you? The tax relief, insurance, border? What's the most important thing to you? If you could do one thing, what should it be?

ALAN: Tax reform. Just cut the taxes back. I know he went to 10 percent. Now it's up to 20. I know you have to give and take. But I really need relief on my paycheck. I just need to bring home a little bit more to what I'm bringing home, because they're taking it all from me.

And I can't -- and this is the craziest thing: My 17-year-old son worked last year a part-time job. And when I filed taxes, I claimed him on my earned income tax credit. He went and claimed himself.

He was so proud to file his taxes. Seventeen years old. Made $1,400. Now that screwed up my taxes. I got the federal and the state after me now, wanting $2,600 back, saying I have to pay them back because he claimed himself.

I didn't know. I was supposed to use a different form. But the taxes, I mean, why can't it be a simple one little form? And why do they have to take so much?

I mean, they tax me right up front. And then everything I buy and everything I use, I have to pay more taxes on that. I wish it was like a FairTax or something like that. I mean, they're just -- oh, my God, my paycheck is something like 400-something dollars comes out every two weeks, just taxes alone. And I could really use that money.

GLENN: You know, I was just thinking -- I'm going to write you a check for the $2,600. But you better check because, if I give you the $2,600, they're going to charge you for that $2600 that I give you, and then you'll be in even more trouble. But let me take care of your -- your tax bill of $2,600. And you just --

ALAN: Oh, wow. Mr. Beck. You're my angel.

GLENN: Just call me Glenn. And if you'll hold on. We'll get some information. We'll send you a check. But know that they're -- this damn government is going to charge you.

STU: Oh, you're totally screwed.

GLENN: You're totally screwed. Because next year, you'll have to claim the $2,600. And so it's -- you know, save your money if you can, because they're going to charge you for it next year. Alan --

ALAN: Well, I had to file appeals and stuff. And I had to file a special thing. And it was amazing how I got the federal and the state comptroller's letter at the same time. It was like they were in cahoots with each other. I got both letters at the same time. It's like they're done with the big fish, now they want the little fish.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: Alan, thank you so much. God bless. And try to stay cool today. God bless. We'll talk to you again. If you'll hold on for just a second, and if the producers can get his address and some information.


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