Shatner v. Glenn


Up Till Now: The Autobiography

By William Shatner

GLENN: Hello, William, how are you, sir?

SHATNER: Really great. What about yourself, Glenn?

GLENN: Very good.

SHATNER: I didn't vent. I was just talking and things got out of hand.

GLENN: Here's the thing. There's -- because we walked off the set and there is a betting pool going on right now. Everybody is pretty clear that you walked on the set really not being the most comfortable with me.

SHATNER: No. Whoever -- I was fine.

GLENN: No, no, no, we know that you're fine and we know that you weren't intimidated. I'm not referring to that. It's just like you're not really a fan.

SHATNER: No, that's not true, Glenn. I am a fan in a way, the way you'd be a fan of a fire.

GLENN: Right.

SHATNER: You look at the fire, admire the fire, the blazing fire. You might even put your hand in the general direction of the fire.

GLENN: Sure.

SHATNER: For warmth.

GLENN: Uh-huh, uh-huh.

SHATNER: But beware.

GLENN: So -- that's exactly what we all believe you thought. So now when -- you, I believe, are the first guest that I've ever had that did not walk off the set after an hour, that kind of went, you know what, he's not really a fire; I kind of like the guy.

SHATNER: I did. I did walk off the set -- are you fishing for compliments?

GLENN: No, no, no, I'm fishing for the truth, William Shatner. I'm fishing for the truth.

SHATNER: The truth is you are a nice guy. You just, you hold an occasional odd position. That's all.

GLENN: Okay. Now, I would like to go over some of the -- I want you to know that the episode hasn't even aired. You know that.

SHATNER: Yeah.

GLENN: And I'm already getting complaint mail from Trekkies.

SHATNER: You're kidding.

GLENN: No.

SHATNER: Should I leash them?

GLENN: Well, just, I'm afraid of them.

SHATNER: No. They're like a small ember compared to you.

GLENN: Let me ask you. You're telling me with a straight face that you've never been afraid of people who buy and wear plastic pointy ears?

SHATNER: Well, if the ears, if they were wearing just the ears, there's nothing to fear.

GLENN: Sure.

SHATNER: It's the self-protrusions coming out of their costumes.

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William Shatner may forever be best know his role as Captain Kirk on Star Trek.

GLENN: I just, three random e-mails that I pulled out, out of the many, many that are pissed that I didn't ask you.

SHATNER: Really?

GLENN: Oh, yes. Here we go: I can't believe that you didn't ask him why each episode was referred to as Stardate. What does that even mean? I guess we'll never know. Thanks a lot, jerk. Let's see. What is the actual color of the original command tunics is another one.

SHATNER: Well --

GLENN: And I like this one, too. What is it like to be beamed up? How come you guys had that technology so long ago on your show and we still don't have it today, plus what was your favorite planet that you visited while you were doing your space travel on TV and which one would you like to go back to.

SHATNER: Wait a minute. That sounds like a question for me, not for you.

GLENN: They are all -- no, no, they are all questions for you.

SHATNER: Oh, I see.

GLENN: Yeah.

SHATNER: I have no answer for any of them.

GLENN: Good.

SHATNER: I mean, it was a fantasy, wasn't it? It was just a television show.

GLENN: Do you ever, do you ever -- have you ever actually said that to somebody? "It's a television show. Get a life."

SHATNER: I do say it a lot, and they at times unequivocally deny that and accuse me of trying to obfuscate because it really was a window into reality. No, 99.9% are just having fun.

GLENN: Right.

SHATNER: That one tenth, as I'm sure you well know.

GLENN: Yeah. Did you see Galaxy Quest?

SHATNER: I did. It was very funny.

GLENN: Obviously a parody of --

SHATNER: Yeah.

GLENN: That's kind of -- in your book up until now, you talk about you didn't know that the rest of the crew hated you.

SHATNER: Well, wait a minute. That's overstated a little.

GLENN: Well, that's what I do, William.

SHATNER: A couple of people didn't like me and I never understood why and I still don't to this day.

GLENN: Who didn't like you?

SHATNER: Nichelle Nichols and George Takei.

SHATNER: Nichelle Nichols, that's Uhura, right?

SHATNER: Yes.

GLENN: You made out with her.

SHATNER: Not I, not I.

GLENN: You had the first interracial kiss with her, did you not?

SHATNER: Yes, again the fantasy of Star Trek. And, you know, Barbara Walters has written an autobiography and admitted to certain sexual activities, and I don't -- I haven't read her book but I've got to figure that the book contains a lot of stuff other than what she wrote about in her affair with a politician.

GLENN: May I ask --

SHATNER: So my point is this: The media pounces on some issue that in this case, for example, on my book, up until now, is a minute thing in which the breath it takes to say, for 40 years somebody's got a feud with me, or a feud on that part, a dislike of me, is not worth more than the breath I've just stated because --

GLENN: So what was the -- why did you put it in the book then?

SHATNER: Because it was one of those things that people say, you've got to write about that. And so I refer to it. But because it's something you can attack, you can use and it's succinct. You know, somebody didn't like you; oh, yes; no, they didn't, as opposed to other things I write about. So put in its proper place, a couple of people didn't like me on the set and I didn't know it. That's the funny part or the part that I find astonishing about myself. I mean, are you aware of your staff and their likes and dislikes in the hurly-burly of doing three hours a day and then your night show? I mean, your --

GLENN: I do. I fire anybody who doesn't like me. What? I have people that listen and eavesdrop and then we fire them if they say anything bad about me.

SHATNER: Yeah, you don't know that. You don't know what they're thinking. You don't know what they're saying to each other unless it were to come out. My point is, you can't be -- you should be, but you can't be aware of everything going on around you. So in doing ten pages a day, year after year on that show, I guess I must have been ignorant about this.

GLENN: So if that's not the -- you are saying the media pounces on that part. So then what is the part that you say, "I wish somebody would pay attention to this; this is the most important part of the book"?

SHATNER: Well, no, there's no more one important part than the other. The book is a snapshot of the beginning to now, up until now, and there are many subjects brought up. And I can understand people's interest in this, but it irks me that it's so minuscule, somebody not liking me for 40 years and my not knowing why, nor being able to get out of them yet why.

GLENN: Well, George Takei. I've talked to him a couple of times.

SHATNER: Have you?

GLENN: He's an odd duck. So there you go. Because I'm riddled with ADD, I've got to go back to Barbara Walters, more information than you ever wanted to know about her?

SHATNER: Yes. You've got to ask the question, why would somebody do that?

GLENN: I have no -- she was so classy, she was -- I mean, she was really, you know, the first woman of news. She went on to The View and so she did that and so she's kind of tainted her image on that a little bit and now she's going to go out being known as somebody who was like a sex kitten breaking up this marriage. It's disturbing.

GLENN: But more profoundly is why would she choose to do that? And I saw an interview in which she said, you know, I really don't know why I did that, why I wrote that.

GLENN: But she continues to do it.

SHATNER: Exactly. And so what is it? Is it publicity for her book or is it breaking out of her age, trying to free? I mean, that's the mystery. Not so much that she had this affair and wrote about it. Why is she continuing --

GLENN: I have no idea.

SHATNER: Yeah.

GLENN: There was a conservative media watchdog group I've never heard of and they said, "Barbara has sunk to the very level of other attention-starved celebrities such as Paris Hilton or Steve-O from "Jackass." Walters' people came back and said this conservative watchdog group seems to have lived a sheltered life in a doghouse. Again I go back to your point, it's not information anybody wanted.

SHATNER: No.

GLENN: It's not information that's important.

SHATNER: Exactly. It's not information that's important. And not only that, it's an autobiography. She's writing about herself. She doesn't have the authority to out somebody else. I mean, you do all the harm you want --

GLENN: To yourself.

SHATNER: -- to yourself but don't harm somebody else in the process.

GLENN: All right. In the middle of the interview you said something and I just wanted to come to you for a solution.

SHATNER: All right.

GLENN: I don't agree with you on the problem but I'd like to hear your solution.

SHATNER: Good.

GLENN: You said almost every problem we have right now is due to overpopulation.

SHATNER: Yes.

GLENN: And I said there are just too many stupid people on Earth. You said there's too many smart and stupid people. So what is the solution to overpopulation?

SHATNER: Well, nature, nature eventually will take care of that problem like they did, like nature does with animals. We're overgrazing. So when deer multiply, when the natural order of things is disturbed and predators are taken away, for example, the deer, they overpopulate, they eat too much of the food and they starve. And we're going to -- if we don't curb -- how do we stop the overpopulation? I guess it's by education and saying you've got to have less children, you can't have all the children you want anymore. There's a difference in the world now. Or nature will take care of it.

GLENN: How many -- well, I just want -- I mean, in 1968 they said by 1980 the world would starve to death. Food production --

SHATNER: But there's no question that technology has increased the yield per acre. But in increasing the yield per acre, we have defiled the planet even more. By putting more fertilizer on the ground, we have the runoff and we have the seas dying as a result of all the fertilizer.

GLENN: Do you believe that the Earth takes care of -- and I mean this as a sincere question. Do you believe that the Earth takes care of problems in the way that this cyclone hit or this earthquake in China? Is that the Earth saying, enough?

SHATNER: Well, no. The cyclone itself is a natural order, but the number of people killed, which would have been three in another age, is now tens of thousands. And that's the result of overpopulation. The population of the world is taking over niches for living space and agriculture that they wouldn't have done before. So they are on low-lying islands that are inches above water level or cutting back mangroves like we did in Florida in order to get land and ultimate, whereas nature would have softened the blows of some of these disastrous storms, now that isn't taking place. Eventually and when that will happen, it's hard to predict. But we know it's not going to be that far away. Nature will be killing more and more people because there are more and more people to be killed. They're in the way of these natural forces.

GLENN: William Shatner is with us. Can you hang on for just a second? We're going to take a break and then we'll come back.

SHATNER: Absolutely. I'm enjoying it.

GLENN: See, now he can say that, but I don't necessarily know if I believe him.

SHATNER: It's true.

GLENN: William Shatner from Boston Legal, Star Trek, yada, yada, yada and the new book "Up Until Now" is in bookstores. We'll continue our conversation in just a second.

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GLENN: Back with William Shatner. He's got a new book out called "Up Till Now." What is your favorite book that you've made?

SHATNER: Gee, I don't know. Early on I did some really fine films, judgment at Nuremburg probably could be part of that.

GLENN: That was good.

SHATNER: That was a great film. You know I was -- you read that commercial on meat so well, it was --

GLENN: Oh, boy, here we go.

SHATNER: No, no. You really think -- you know where I'm going?

GLENN: I think so.

SHATNER: It's a great commercial. I mean, you did it so well. Yes?

GLENN: Yes, go ahead. Go ahead.

SHATNER: I didn't know -- I thought I would surprise you with the amount of energy, about the amount of energy it takes to make a steak, and I love steak, too. It's just I'm getting guiltier and guiltier about eating it.

GLENN: Not me. You know what? You give it up, I'll eat your share. I'll eat your share.

Listen, I want to play some -- this is from Boston Legal.

SHATNER: Okay.

GLENN: You don't have it? Oh, you don't have it. I'm sorry. I thought we had the clip. We'll save that. You know, what do you think of Patrick Stewart?

SHATNER: I love him. He's great and he's apparently wonderful in -- what am I saying apparently? I saw him. He's wonderful in Macbeth.

GLENN: When did you see that?

SHATNER: I saw it in Los Angeles.

GLENN: Really?

SHATNER: He played in Los Angeles.

GLENN: I just saw it last night.

SHATNER: What did you think?

GLENN: Unbelievable.

SHATNER: Great.

GLENN: The best -- I've never seen anything on stage as good. I hate Shakespeare but I like Patrick Stewart and I heard this was really, really good. This was absolutely unbelievable.

SHATNER: You can't say you hate Shake --

GLENN: Yes, I can.

SHATNER: No, Glenn, the science --

GLENN: I hate Shakespeare. It's, I hate somebody who I was forced to read when I was in high school.

SHATNER: There you go.

GLENN: And it's ancient dated language. The guy was a writer for, you know, Three's Company in his day.

SHATNER: Well, but here you have -- you loved Macbeth.

GLENN: I did love Macbeth.

SHATNER: So you can't say you hate Shakespeare. You hate Shakespeare badly done. You hate Shakespeare that's force-fed.

GLENN: Have you ever, have you ever done Shakespeare?

SHATNER: I was a member of the Stratford Ontario Company for three years.

GLENN: Can I tell you something? I think your dramatic readings are brilliant. Why don't you do more?

SHATNER: I do a lot.

GLENN: Currently?

SHATNER: Yeah.

GLENN: Really? Give me one. Do you have anything off the top of your head?

SHATNER: Well, there's a CD out right now called Exodus, it's an oratorio in which 350 voices, a choral group, a 72 piece orchestra and me doing an abbreviated version of Exodus which has gotten great reviews.

GLENN: Wow. If I only knew what an oratorio was. I wasn't listening when they taught me Shakespeare.

SHATNER: Well, you would enjoy this. You would enjoy this, I'm sure. But Glenn, your education is lacking in certain areas.

GLENN: Well, and I'm going to let you have the last word. William Shatner, "Up Till Now," he will be on television tomorrow night, CNN Headline Prime, 7:00. Thanks.


 

Nearly two years after the January 6 riot at the Capitol, the mystery of who planted two pipe bombs outside the Republican and Democratic National Committee offices remains unsolved. Thankfully, the bombs were found and disabled before they could cause any harm, but with their potential for devastating consequences — not to mention the massive investigations into all things relating to Jan.6 — why does it seem like this story has practically fallen off the face of the earth?

No one in the corporate media has even tried to look into it, and the government's narrative that the bombs were meant to be a diversion for the Capitol riot doesn't make sense when you look at the timeline of events.

So, on this week's episode of "Glenn TV," Glenn Beck broke down the timeline of events that led up to the discovery of the bombs and how the facts appear to point toward one sinister conclusion:

  • Security footage reportedly shows that the two pipe bombs were planted in front of the DNC and RNC the day before the riot.
  • Neither bomb was concealed.
  • Then-Vice President-elect Kamala Harris entered the DNC headquarters at approximately 11: 30 am on January 6.
  • At approximately 12:40 pm on January 6, the first pipe bomb was discovered sitting in plain sight outside the DNC headquarters, raising questions as to why the incoming vice president didn't have better security.
  • The pipe bomb had a one-hour kitchen timer that had apparently stopped with 20 minutes left on the timer. (Remember, the bombs were planted on January 5.)
  • The Secret Service reportedly erased their communications from January 5t and January 6 by "accident."

"It doesn't really hit you unless you look at it as a timeline, and then you're like, 'wait a minute that doesn't seem right.' The unsolved mystery of the pipe bomb has been used by the government to show that January 6 riot was part of a larger coordinated attack ... that the bombs were a diversion to get the Capitol police away from the Capitol," Glenn explained.

"But the bomb had a one-hour timer and it was planted at 8 p.m. the night before. So the bomb would have to go off the night before at about 9 p.m. on January 5. How's that a diversion? It's not physically even possible."

Watch the video clip below to hear more or find the full episode of "Unsolved Mysteries: 7 Deep-State SECRETS Biden Wants Buried" here.


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The Biden administration has weaponized the federal government against the American people. But officials have hidden most of their attacks behind a secretive and cavernous bureaucracy.

There are so many unsolved mysteries that Joe Biden and the Democrats not only refuse to answer, but in some cases appear as though they are ACTIVELY trying to cover up. Like what happened on January 6? Who is Ray Epps? Who planted the pipe bombs? What’s in Biden’s executive order on elections? What happened to the SCOTUS Dobbs leaker? What’s the COVID origin story? What’s happening with crypto, FTX, and the Central Bank Digital Currency?

These are just a few of the unsolved mysteries that we need to DEMAND answers on. On his Wednesday night special, Glenn Beck outlines a chalkboard that will leave you convinced the DOJ and FBI are LYING to the American people. The more secrets the Deep State holds, the more its power over us grows.

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'I NEVER thought I'd talk about this': Was Glenn Beck's CHILLING dream actually a WARNING?

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On the radio program this week, Glenn Beck decided to share a very unusual, extremely vivid dream he had ten years ago — a dream he thought he'd never talk about on the air until he began to see it as a warning that we should all know about.

"I never ever thought I would talk about this on the air, but I feel compelled to tell you that seasons have changed again, and it is becoming more and more apparent. You need to know what you're dealing with," Glenn began.

"If you are a long-time listener of this program, you know that one of the reasons I left New York ... was that I had a medical condition. Part of it was brought on by no REM sleep for about 10 years ... and for 10 years, I never had a dream," he explained. "However, during this period I had what could be described as a dream. I do not believe it was."

"In this 'dream' ... I am in a hallway of the White House. And I'm walking into a big room where there's a bunch of cubicles, and people look up like, 'who's walking in?' There are people behind me, but I don't know who they are yet. I just know I'm being pushed forward by them," Glenn continued. "I realize that everybody in the White House is terrified of who's ever behind me ... I glance back and I see people that are in uniforms that I've never seen before. I have seen them since, but that will be for some other time...."

"So, these guys in the uniforms are in the hallway, and one guy says, 'him, him, and him, take them out' ... and I'm the only one still sitting at the table. They go out ... then I hear three gunshots and they say, 'yeah, that happened pretty quickly for them. However, you, we're going to get to know ... because you really have no idea who you're dealing with.' And that's when one of them ... ripped off his face and he was Satan. Or, he was a demon, okay? Horrifying. Then I wake up."

Glenn went on to explain that, while the dream was so vivid and disturbing that he thought about it almost daily for well over a year, it was what happened next — during a discussion with a prominent religious leader — that really hinted his "dream" might actually have been a vision of the future and a warning.

"I will never forget it, and I will never dismiss it," Glenn said of what he learned. "I'm sharing it with you today because you must not dismiss what you're dealing with. We are not in a battle [of] politics ... our whole culture has become evil."

"You have to get to a point where you are going to choose a side. There will be no one left on the benches, and if you think you can sit it out you will end up on the wrong side. I urge you to know who you serve. This is a different time in human experience. This is not normal. None of this is normal," he warned.

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